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    Quote Originally Posted by Triton Bikes View Post

    .......... a snow bike frame,.........., and so on


    Hope the last E-mail made sense. Trying not to send too many and clog up your inbox
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    Hi everybody!

    I am driving to Finland in a couple of hours. Gotta stamp my visa and return to Russia.
    We shall leave the car on the Russian side and cycle to Finland and will ride there during weekend and then come back to Moscow.

    If there's anyone living near Imatra or Lapeenranta and want to join us a for a drink - let me know. Unfortunately I won't have a Triton with me...because I don't have a touring Triton and this sucks. Those Tritons are expensive

    I was going to take dad's, but then it would be a pain to cycle 100km on it

    Anyway, here is some media I took with my wife's small Sony camera. Oh boy, I miss my nice big Canon and hope I can fix it soon.

    We made a superlight rack.
    It wasn't designed to take heavy stuff. And it's really light.
    We will be making tooling and fixtures for racks. Until then I will not be accepting orders of racks.



    Roadie and 28-29" hybrid frame with a rack



    So a batch of stars arrived and our engineer designed simple tool that lets us match head badge with the headtube




    Put it under press. Done.






    29er frame being built for a Swiss customer



    Fixed gear frame rear triangle mitered. Waiting for the drawing of rear part



    Head badges!



    Made new frame holder for alignment checks



    Night at Triton Bikes ghetto shop



    Installed oooold bench grinder made in 50s in USSR. Very quiet and powerful. Lathe operator loves it.




    Here is a roadie frame we have just finished.
    51cm Centre to Top.
    Paragon dropouts with replaceable hanger.

    The weight is quite nice - 1387 grams

    LIGHT



    Head badge mounted!
    Though it's a nice evolution from blasted or vinyl badge, we are still searching for the best bolt solution. These bolts are 2mm "+", stainless steel. I was absolutely unable to find anything else of this tiny size here in Russia.
    A crazy idea got to me just now: we should remove bolts from the old hard drives. They are nice torx bolts. Will test out this solution haha
    We can virtually make alien bolts. But not so tiny



    Light!









    More to follow!

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    Oooops a gas gas .... jeje

    Have a good trip dmitry

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallll View Post
    Oooops a gas gas .... jeje

    Have a good trip dmitry
    Yup! Old Spanish trials motorbike.
    Made in 1999. Quite destroyed by the previous owner. I am fixing it between my computer/workshop session to relax. Tried riding it here in industrial area, crazy
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    A crazy idea got to me just now: we should remove bolts from the old hard drives. They are nice torx bolts. Will test out this solution haha
    ha ha ha ... I have an old hard drive.
    I can not wait.
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    Nice looking frames Dmitry! I hope you get your Canon back up and running soon. You take such nice photos with it.

    Talking about road bikes, mine should be built up on Tuesday. Here's a mock up of my frame which just arrived. Truly a work of art. All the guys at my lbs want a Triton now. ;-)

    You could have used this bike on your trip Dmitry!

    Sorry for the crappy iPhone pics. I'll make sure to add a few better ones once I have her all built up.

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    Man that's nice!! I don't know if I can wait 7-8 months to get mine. It must feel like forever!!

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    Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, the wait is a tough one to swallow but his turn around times are only going to get faster as he is more settled at his new facility.

    I just read on another thread that a guy waited 18 months for his Blacksheep custom frame. Really not sure how a guy can stay in business with turnaround times like that. Nice product but there's certainly a point you have to ask yourself if it's worth your time.

    Keep riding your other bike(s) until your Triton shows up!
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    That roadie looks NICE. Do yourself a favor and get a Ti seatpost...

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    Want to secure a place in line...a deposit of 20 dollars locks you in.
    Current wait list time is 78 months to get started on your frame order.
    Groovy Cycleworks great bikes but it's a one man show. Many "one man" bike builders have very long wait times.
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    Engin Cycles now are making Ti bikes. 300.00 bucks gets you in line, 3800 for frame and year wait.
    Drew makes some of the best looking bikes I have ever seen, local to me also. Dream on!!

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    Frame Mods

    Hey Dmitry, you haven't forgotton about my bike have you? You remember this one for the quick stiffener mods?
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    Wow! >>>

    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada 29er View Post
    Hey Dmitry, you haven't forgotton about my bike have you? You remember this one for the quick stiffener mods?
    You sent your frame back and no updates? Man, with such a F-up by Triton I thought you would be a high priority customer. Lets see and wait what clever excuse is given as a response.... not cool. Triton seems to be growing too fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulga View Post
    You sent your frame back and no updates? Man, with such a F-up by Triton I thought you would be a high priority customer. Lets see and wait what clever excuse is given as a response.... not cool. Triton seems to be growing too fast.
    Or Triton seems to have more than one customer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pulga View Post
    You sent your frame back and no updates? Man, with such a F-up by Triton I thought you would be a high priority customer. Lets see and wait what clever excuse is given as a response.... not cool. Triton seems to be growing too fast.
    pulga, you may be right.
    My partner says we are growing too slow.

    Spending days and days at the workshop optimizing the production, taking part in creating new tools. Every day we make a new tool (will share photos later on).
    I look at the calendar and can see days passing at the speed of light. And I get shocked when I see myself in a mirror every couple of weeks - I see an ape with a large beard.

    I wrote an email to Nevada 29er, we had agreed on the mods. They should help solve this his issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triton Bikes View Post
    I get shocked when I see myself in a mirror every couple of weeks - I see an ape with a large beard.

    So what you really need, is a longer wire for the shaver


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunyan View Post
    I just read on another thread that a guy waited 18 months for his Blacksheep custom frame. Really not sure how a guy can stay in business with turnaround times like that.
    It's a pitfall of custom building frames. With most being one or two man operations volume is impossible, even 'big' custom builders like Nicolai have wait times.

    They stay in business because they make things that the big brands won't or can't and they do it to a high standard, people will wait and they will pay for something if the quality is there.

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    Fix the Spade,

    I agree, if the quality is there and the final product is as advertised I can see it being worth the wait. I think one of the problems these smaller businesses like, Triton, Blacksheep, etc have is the front office. It's a full time job running the books and keeping in contact with the customer. I was close to dropping the coin on a HT Blacksheep but the lack of correspondence turned me off. Same with Jeronimo.
    Triton may not have the "finish" or polish like some of the high end companies but the customer service is great. Dmitry responds within a few days and tries to work with you. Obviously his product is in a different category than say a Moots in quality and finish but at his price point you get a solid product that should last you years and hopefully give you that magical Ti ride. In my case I'm still waiting on finishing up the build to get that first test ride under my belt. I feel for Nevada, the last thing you want to do after receiving your frame is send it back and have to wait again for a fix. I'm hoping that won't be the case for me.
    I feel Triton just has to tighten up the tolerances a bit and work on pushing frames out a bit quicker and they'll be good to go.
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    Wanted to post up some photos of the work in progress, but will do it later due to lack of time.

    Had an idea today: MTBR members can see photos of the work in progress that I post here but you may not get the full idea of how Triton works and looks.
    I can take my wife's tiny Sony camera and take short videos showing our workshop and Triton workers. Currently the workshop is still a bit ghetto style, but still it starts looking better and better every day.
    This will give you guys a better idea of Triton. More and more local riders come around Triton's new shop and they seem to like the atmosphere (though a visitor means I loose like 1-2 hours of work time and I hate that haha
    This Friday I planned to spend all of my time on emails but I had 5 (!) customer visitors and two long Skype calls. That meant I got a couple of customers but lost a complete day = many unresponded emails. Sorted situation partially today.

    So, do you guys want these videos on like monthly basis?
    In English of course.
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    I see nothing wrong with ghetto style workshops. I even prefer it that way (mid-20th century look and feel, but modern precision equipment where it matters).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triton Bikes View Post
    pulga, you may be right.
    My partner says we are growing too slow.
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    Be very careful of expanding quickly.

    Plenty of brands expand quickly, add volume, add debts to pay for the equipment needed, lost track of the book keeping and then it suddenly goes tits up. All it takes is for a company to lose track of either the orders or the money, then one or the other to get called in unexpectedly. There was a custom Ti builder in the UK a little while ago called Setavento, they got set up, got popular and got bust within about three years.

    It's not just little guys either, who would have thought Raceface would suddenly go bust one day, or Titus, or Iron Horse for that matter?

    If you're going to keep expanding you have got to get a an accountant in to watch the money, maybe even someone who's job it is to keep track of orders and communication full time. It's way more important than tools or fabrication!

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    WaltWorks has the Ticket

    In my book, if I get a custom frame, which I won't be doing anytime soon, the way WaltWorks does it is very effective and unique. A quick glance of his blog lets buyers see where they are in the build que. More small builders should do this. no pictures, but simple and effective.

    Ever since Triton tried to take things in house, building has actually seemed to slow down. When the work was contracted to Rapid Bikes out Russia, building seemed quicker. Maybe this relationship with Rapid Bikes, Titanium bicycle frames and components production, I think this is the company, can be strengthend to get frame build times down.

    Actually looking at Rapid's gallery, they have some Triton frames displayed. Odd ... ... Galery of RAPID Company titanium products | RAPID*Company official website

    Hopefully things improve, or your partner may be right, you should have milked it while you could ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulga View Post
    Actually looking at Rapid's gallery, they have some Triton frames displayed. Odd
    Its really not odd at all. They have pictures of Triton frames because that's part of what they do. They build frames for other companies. Just like Kenisis, they build frames for other bike companies and they sell some under their own name. If you're building products for other well known companies, you might as well us that as part of your marketing strategy.

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    So just to reiterate ... Rapid used to make unicycles for Triton, then trial bikes? Then Triton decided to bring manufacturing under their own roof?

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    Dmitry, When will you be set up to start building forks again???

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    Hi everybody!

    We value our time here at Triton and your time, too.
    I will keep on posting "work in progress" media, frames and built-up bikes.
    I will not be taking part in discussions (such as the one above).

    So here we go, here's a new portion of Work in Progress!

    ***I need my Canon back, the Sony sensor and lens are waste...

    We made a tube bender for rack tubing (10mm). From scratch.
    Works nice and smooth.



    Paragon paradise
    PM mounts, Sliders, Rockers, breezer dropouts, 142x12 dropouts, tube splitters, ISCG05 mounts, canti mounts, etc.



    Paragon 142x12mm dropouts to work with Shimano skewer.



    Post Mount



    Canti mounts



    Our welder Sasha has won a Kemppi cap at the Weldex exhibition in Moscow



    Getting ready for a fatbike.
    Engineer said we needed a 80mm radius bend.
    We don't have such a bender. So we have to make one.

    Take a block of steel, mark it and mount on a plate



    Install on a lathe



    Mandrell slowly appears



    After a day on a lathe the steel block got its shape and fitted on the Anvil bender base.



    Yes.



    See table: 4 front triangles mitered in two days: fixed gear frame, fat bike, two 29ers
    One is loaded on a jig



    27.2mm seat post being tested now



    Sasha welding a fixed gear frame





    Tacked. Checking fitment. By today, this frame is completely welded. Will post the pics later on.




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    Nice ! Keep up the good work!
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    Great update.

    Love the paragon selection. Like a xmas selection box of chocs

    The fixed gear bike looks nice too. I could do with replacing my flexy steel fixed frame, and maybe a Ti rack, and maybe a Ti seatpost........Darn this thread
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    Off the topic: I keep getting updates on Sandy hurricane from my friends in New-York.
    Hope you guys living on the East Coast are safe and fine.
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    Positive news:
    1. I now have a Canon 7D camera before my old camera is fixed, so next batch of photos will be of higher quality.
    2. We are collaborating with a friend of mine who ordered a CNC machine. The machine is being built now in Moscow. It should be ready by mid December. Since I have some free space the machine will be located and used at our shop! My friend will be making suspension parts for race cars and we will be using CNC machine to make dropouts / disc brake mounts / etc etc.
    Always wanted to have an access to CNC!

    Have a nice weekend everybody!
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    CNC......hmmmm sounds like fun.

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    Congratulations Dmitry ... I would like a CNC machine myself ...

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    That's awesome! That CNC machine will be great for the shop. Looks like you won't have an excuse to make some VPP full suspension 29er frames now. ;-)

    Glad you got your hands on a 7D. Looking forward to done nice Triton shots.
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    Soooooo.... machined chainstay yokes so compact as to provide both chainring (and hopefully Hammerschmidt) and fat tire clearance with short chainstays will now be doable, right? And maybe even one-piece machined BB shell/ISCG/chainstay yoke parts?
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    Machined Ti BB yoke means that frame will be $400-500 more expensive. A solid block of Ti needed for this operation would weight half of a complete bike. And considering prices of titanium it would make it a very expensive frame.
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    Well.. we're talking dream frames here. )

    I'd pony up for that if I were sure about nailing all the other aspects of design, like geometry and features. Mostly have my mind set about features, though. But still trying to figure out the geometry (down to 1 mm and 0.25 degrees) that I'd like to see set in titanium.
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    Bunyan,

    How is your build-up going? Any picts?

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    As a matter of fact, I just picked up my bike yesterday. I only have an iPhone pic with the finished bike on the stand.

    I'll get some better pics and will also share my thoughts on what I think of the bike after I get a few rides on it.

    The bike looks dead sexy, I hope she rides as well as she looks.

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    That is looking really good ... looking forward to more pictures ...

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    Finally got the bike home and had the chance to take her out for her maiden ride. As I mentioned on my thread I opened on roadbikereview "From Russia with Love - Custom Ti from Triton", http://forums.roadbikereview.com/bik...-274803-6.html
    The bike rides great and handles very well and is stiff in the right places. I really need to get more miles under my belt but I was grinning the whole way on my first ride.

    Total weight is 19.55lbs and the frame obviously custom measures in around a 64-65cm. I'm looking forward to logging a lot of miles on this bike.

    Here are a few final pics of the finished bike. Thanks to Dmitry and the boys at Triton for a job well done.

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    Hi everybody!

    We are on the way to Italy to visit Dedacciai bicycle tubing factory for samples of CrMo tubes and then to Santini to work out design of the Triton Bikes team jerseys!

    Steel is getting real.

    Meanwhile 4 frames in production at different stages.
    44mm headtubes and PF30 BB shells will be released soon too.

    The new bender is finished and we are testing it. Here is the bend without any filler.
    We will use it for the current fat bike project.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Triton Bikes View Post
    Owww.. it is almost same feeling now as when I saw the 1st ultrasound pic of my kid

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    Dedacciai tubing, Italy.
    We now have double butted steel tubesets for 29er frames and classic road bikes. Other types will be available too.





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    Subscribing for thread updates!!! Awesome company!
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    Ready for some media?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triton Bikes View Post
    Ready for some media?



    Bring it.

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    Oh yes....
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    So...

    We went to Italy, Milan for two days to do two things:
    1. Work out Triton Team wear with Santini factory
    2. See the Dedacciai production and get a couple of test steel tubesets

    Dedacciai were first on the schedule.
    The train connection from Milan to Cremona (Deda location) wasn't working out for me. The Milano Centrale station was loud, long queues and the next train was in like 1.5 hours. So I decided to take a taxi.
    It took us quite a long time to get out of Milan and we got to Deda in an hour...
    Here is what I had to pay in Euros The taxi driver was happy haha





    I was met by the Dedacciai manager Stefano and he showed me around the factory.
    Deda makes everything: steel tubing, aluminum, titanium and carbon fibre.
    Sorry for the quality of the photos, I took them with my phone.



    Here is some of the tooling used for butting



    New press



    I took a few tubesets with me (will share photos in the next post).
    And basically we are ready to make a 29er and a road frame out of steel.

    The second day was Santini factory.
    These guys produce cycling wear for dozens of teams in the world, including Giro d'Italia official cycle wear, Australian, Irish and Russian national cycling teams, etc etc.
    We spoke to them at EuroBike 2012 and decided to make a batch of Triton Team cycle wear.

    Santini from the outside. Takes quite a large area





    Hall of fame





    Giro







    Russian colleagues



    Triton Team jersey design in process



    Santini designers offered us a few versions.
    We stayed with the Russian flag colors and wanted our uniform to be conservative, suiting competition and normal road use. Just like our Ti bikes. Simple and clean

    The final design is yet to be decided.
    Below is a quick draft.




    We like it!

    Once everything is sorted, we shall order the following items:
    - Triton Team short sleeve jersey
    - Long sleeve winter jacket
    - Triton branded shorts
    - Tights
    - Full fingers gloves

    The Triton staff will receive the uniform for free, it will also be sent to our team riders, and it will be available at our website.

    I will notify once the wear is available.

    Thanks!

    Dmitry
    TritonBikes.com

    Titanium frames and components handbuilt in Russia

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    Damn Dmitry, those are pimp! Great design. I hope you'll offer "Man" size.
    Looking forward to seeing what you'll end up with.

    Had another great ride with my roadie today. Smooth as butta.
    XXL Spesh FSR 29er | Custom Ti roadie by Triton | FM190 build in progress

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