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    Which of these frames?

    What are the best frames for under $1K? How do you shop for a frame that you can't test ride? Do you just look for geometry that is similar to a bike that you have ridden?

    Here are some frames i am looking at. Are any of them better than the other? I really like the Sette Ace based on reviews and the build pics i have seen.

    http://www.setteusa.com/ace_frame.htm

    http://bobs-bicycles.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=1852

    http://cgi.ebay.com/KHS-XC-Team-Bicy...d=p3286.c0.m14

    http://wheelworld.com/product/kona-0...frame-6374.htm

    http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...e+2008+Oe.aspx

    hmm
    http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...rame+2008.aspx

    Sometimes i want to just push the budget a little and go for a Titus Motolite or Intense Spyder i have seen for just under $1200, but not sure if it's worth it for me.

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    Were you completely set on doing a custom build? If you really interested in the Sette Ace and your Frame budget is 1200 why not just buy a complete Sette Ace or Sette Flite for that matter? Bang for you buck is always going to be Sette, I think. All of the frames are good, and all will basically have the same performance.
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    You have a wide range of frames here...from lightweight XC to AM/FR

    Maybe a description of your riding style and terrain would help.

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    Intense Spyder! Wouldn't it suck to get a cheaper bike and then wish you had just spent a few hundred more bucks to get a killer frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vtolds
    Were you completely set on doing a custom build? If you really interested in the Sette Ace and your Frame budget is 1200 why not just buy a complete Sette Ace or Sette Flite for that matter? Bang for you buck is always going to be Sette, I think. All of the frames are good, and all will basically have the same performance.
    Yes, because i already have the parts. I have been riding a GF Wahoo disc, which i have upgraded to the point that all i need now for a new bike is the frame, wheels and cables. I will put the old stuff back on the bike and sell it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72
    You have a wide range of frames here...from lightweight XC to AM/FR

    Maybe a description of your riding style and terrain would help.

    I'm not really sure how you would classify it. It's not the smooth looking trails out in the middle of nowhere i see pictures of people riding on. It's rocky and very rooty trails through the woods that are constantly either climbing or descending.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Timpanogos
    Intense Spyder! Wouldn't it suck to get a cheaper bike and then wish you had just spent a few hundred more bucks to get a killer frame?

    That's what i'm afraid of.

    These are what i am looking at as well.

    http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...+Frame+09.aspx

    http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...nger+3Way.aspx

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    I'd get one that's more fit for AM from looking at the pictures of the trail.You can get a nice AM frame that is not too heavy and makes a good all around frame so you can still climb and do XC stuff with it.It's always better to err on the side of safety and strength.Look at the Santa Cruz line also,fine bikes if not a tad on the expensive side.

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    How about this one.......

    http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...e+2008+Oe.aspx

    Jamis makes good frames also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris1911
    I'm not really sure how you would classify it. It's not the smooth looking trails out in the middle of nowhere i see pictures of people riding on. It's rocky and very rooty trails through the woods that are constantly either climbing or descending.





    If you want to spend less...the Kona Dawg Deluxe frameset is a solid performer for the trails shown in your pictures and descriptions. Tough enough for the rocky and rooty terrain yet still a solid climber. Not on the level of the Titus or Intense...but of course way less.

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    That's exactly what my favourite trails look like. Are you in Vancouver or Burnaby?

    I ride them on a rigid carbon Giant.

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    I have a KHS 604. I'm very happy with it but it is my first FS bike so I can't compare it to anything else. It gets good reviews. The geo is most likely ripped off from one of the Titus frames. It's a good bike for the money.
    The Dawg is an AM frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnigro
    The Dawg is an AM frame.
    True for 2009 and 2010 models with 6" of travel and a beefed up frameset

    But the Dawg Deluxe frame that Wheel World is selling is the 2008 which is a lighter built 4.7" travel Trail frame...not All Mountain

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    I really like the Kona after checking it out at wheel world,very nice.It is not much more then the Jamis and it has a better shock and looks like it would make a better all arounder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commodus
    That's exactly what my favourite trails look like. Are you in Vancouver or Burnaby?

    I ride them on a rigid carbon Giant.
    I'm in north Georgia.

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    I'd also look at the BMC Fourstroke 03. The '08 models are on sale for around $800 or less and come with a headset. I'm busy building mine up right now so I can't comment from experience, but it certainly seems to get good reviews and you can't beat the price.

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    I would narrow the focus down to a XC frame which is going to be closer to what you are riding. The Gary Fisher bikes have very long top tubes and moving to another frame you want to pay close attention to the top tube length. If you are currently riding a 24.5 inch frame for example I am not sure if I would want to go down to a 23.5 or less for example.

    Of the frames I think the KHS 904 and the Titux XC for a little bling would be attractive. Both feature four-bar suspensions that are licensed by Specialized.

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    The trails pictured are what I consider to be XC trails (and nice ones at that). Unless you are a Clyde, I would stay away from the heavier frames. A nice light XC build should pretty sweet for those trails. The Sette Ace, the KHS XC, or the Titus all look pretty good, but I didn't spend a lot of time comparing specs.
    If you get the Sette, you may want to consider buying the the complete build even if you already have some of your components, because that extra $500 gets you a some decent parts that you can either use on another build or sell.
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    How is KHS as a brand? I never hear anything about them and a forum search brings up nothing. The msrp for the xc team complete bike is $3979 on the KHS website. Surely you wouldn't load up a frame with XTR components and expect to sell it for anywhere near that if it was a piece of junk. There are a few dealers in the Atlanta area. Maybe i can take a look at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris1911
    How is KHS as a brand? I never hear anything about them and a forum search brings up nothing. ............................
    Because the search function sucks at 3 letter words.
    Thoughts on KHS bikes
    And KHS is as much a brand as Sette is.
    K -knowledge
    H- Health
    S- Strength
    It's kind of dumb but it's a brand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MI4stroke
    I'd also look at the BMC Fourstroke 03. The '08 models are on sale for around $800 or less and come with a headset. I'm busy building mine up right now so I can't comment from experience, but it certainly seems to get good reviews and you can't beat the price.
    They might have cleaned them all out, but I beleive jenson is still selling the BMC trailfox 2 for $500 and the traiflox 1 for $700. I bought one a few months ago and have been very pleased with it so far.

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    Go with the Motolite.
    And though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours...I simply am not there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros
    They might have cleaned them all out, but I beleive jenson is still selling the BMC trailfox 2 for $500 and the traiflox 1 for $700. I bought one a few months ago and have been very pleased with it so far.
    Unfortunately they have no more BMCs. I held out hoping to gather enough cash for a Trail fox in small, but by the time I had the $$$, they no longer had the frames. So when I came across a local seller of a Fourstroke. I sprung for it. L O V E IT.

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    Add another to your list also from Georgia http://www.ibexbikes.com/Bikes/ASTA-FRM-Details.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Add another to your list also from Georgia http://www.ibexbikes.com/Bikes/ASTA-FRM-Details.html

    Hmmmm.

    How does IBEX compare to the others i am looking at? I live close enough to them to pick the frame up myself.

    I am extremely tempted to go with Vtolds idea and get the complete Sette Ace for not much more than i was looking to spend. I could sell the parts that i take off of it and get some money back.

    Which is the better of these two?
    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail.htm...offer=EM098EM2

    http://www.ibexbikes.com/Bikes/ASTA-...X-Details.html
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