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    Question for those who have ridden both a Jones 29er/SWB and a Karate Monkey

    I have narrowed my bicycle preferences down to a relatively short wheel-base, lower bottom bracket, fatter 650B tired, playful bike that will mostly be ridden on pavement or hardpacked dirt/grass.

    I've been interested in the Jones diamond frame for some time and the new SWB complete would be a great option for me.

    I am currently riding a 1st generation Karate Monkey with the Jones loop bar and my plan has been to have some 650B wheels built around either cliffhanger or Blunt rims with G-One Speedster 60mm tires. Ideally, I would make wheel/tire changes to my KM and then buy a Jones SWB frameset and transfer everything over but the hub spacing differences make this impossible.

    My question for those who have ridden both a Jones SWB and a KM, will there be enough difference in the two bikes to justify the expense of a Jones Complete over the cost of 650b wheels and tires for my KM?

    I recently got to ride a steel spaceframe set up with huge 27+ tires but I've only ridden my KM with 29'er tires so I really can't compare the two.


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    I can't speak for the ride quality of each, but if you want to compare the stock geometry of two or three bikes, try this:

    Stack and reach calculator

    if you want to know what a different fork will do the the geo, use this:
    Thorn in your Sidewall
    Vassago Jabberwocky

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