• 02-23-2012
    fbabrove
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    My Baby: My custom Giant Revel. Love/Hate? Share your projects!
    I bought a Giant Revel 2 off a friend for 150 bucks (he bought it for 300 and immediately decided that he wanted a FS). I was looking for a HT 26er project, and here it was. As you all know, the stock components were terrible and the bike was quite a load (I'm not sure of the stock weight, but it had to be 35lbs). So I spent about 4 months compiling new parts via cheap internet sales (I was determined to do this on a budget...I'm a grad student), and here is my final product: Every single component has been upgraded other than the headset.

    I've got the weight down to 23 pounds, which has made riding it lot of fun. Also, this is my first time going 1x9 and I LOVE it!
  • 02-23-2012
    dirtnut
    Happy for ya! Any pictures?
  • 02-23-2012
    fbabrove
    Thanks! Just posting them, the upload is going slow for me.
  • 02-23-2012
    donalson
    looks like a great ride... but a few tidbits...

    it appears your chain is to long... Park Tool Co. ParkTool Blog Chain Length Sizing

    and your cockpit looks like it's pushed to far forward... look into measuring for K.O.P.s... it'll more then likely (unless you've got a weirdly short femur) push your saddle back a bit... then a shorter stem will keep the cockpit length the same... also your saddle rails appear to be bent... part of it being so far forward (the same thing can happen to it if it's to far back)

    but in the end... enjoy it :)
  • 04-10-2012
    fbabrove
    Thanks for the response, Donalson. I appreciate the feedback. I am looking into a shorter stem...any recommendations for a shorter, decently priced, low rise stem?

    How is something like the Easton Havoc?
    Easton Havoc Stem '09 > Components > Handlebars and Stems > Stems | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop
  • 04-10-2012
    lgoldie10
    it looks to me as the forks are the wrong way round??
  • 04-10-2012
    lgoldie10
    my mistake no there not :(
  • 04-10-2012
    fbabrove
    Hey Goldie, Manitou forks and ive seen some dt swiss forks that use a reverse arch. Looking at it takes some getting used to, but I can not believe how sweet this fork is for the price.
  • 04-10-2012
    zebrahum
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fbabrove View Post
    Thanks for the response, Donalson. I appreciate the feedback. I am looking into a shorter stem...any recommendations for a shorter, decently priced, low rise stem?

    How is something like the Easton Havoc?

    Since the only one showing available is the 80mm, I would say that it's probably a good starting point. You really do need to get that saddle centered better on the rails and you could probably benefit from tilting it so that the saddle is level (not nose up like currently).
  • 04-10-2012
    fbabrove
    Actually after you posted your first response to me, I went and fixed the saddle. It is perfectly level and centered (way better, btw, so thank you for that).

    Because of the price, I just ordered this from Jensonusa:
    Race Face Ride Stem Oe '12 > Components > Handlebars and Stems > Stems | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop
    in the 60mm, which is going to be a huge difference from my current 110mm stem.

    Thanks again for all of the advice
  • 04-11-2012
    vbwstripes
    I like the handlebars and grips. My favorite grips.
  • 04-11-2012
    fbabrove
    I love the grips too. Whenever I think I should go with different grips, I just cant. too comfortable/cheap (and more durable than I thought)
  • 04-11-2012
    giantone
    Nice ride! I too used the oury grips on my last bike. My new bike has some ergon type grips that aren't as large in diameter that I really like now. Post some new pics of that 60mm stem on your revel.

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  • 04-15-2012
    Cormac
    1x9 just one step closer to SS. At least it was for me. Nice ride.
  • 04-17-2012
    ducktape
    Another Oury grip fan here. And yeah love the Giant bikes. It's fun doing bikes up isn't it!
  • 04-17-2012
    cobba
    Looking at photos of this build I've noticed a problem, the pad wear on the rotors braking track indicate that there is a brake alignment problem.

    A closer look and I see Avid CPS washers, the Shimano brakes you have were never meant to have these fitted.

    By fitting the CPS washers you are effectively moving the brake calipers outwards away from the axle about 5mm or so, the first result of this is that you will have less braking power because there will be a section of the pads which overhangs the outside edge of the rotor and doesn't contact it.

    Second thing the overhanging pads will lead to another problem as the sections of the pads that contact the rotor wear down, there will be an unworn section of the pads which overhangs the rotor. One day when you squeeze the brake lever, instead of the pads pushing against the rotor, the two unworn sections of pad will be pushing against themselves. The result of this will basically be a loss of brake power which could end up being messy.

    Basically you need to get rid of those CPS washers before a disaster happens.


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  • 05-02-2012
    zkid09
    how did you like the giant in stock form?
    im getting into biking and considering a revel 1 but unsure!
  • 05-02-2012
    fbabrove
    Hey zkid,

    If you think you are going to enjoy it and keep on biking, then it is definitely a good starter bike. I would recommend the Revel 1 or 0 for sure over the Revel 2 (because when you want to upgrade the components, those versions start with better quality ones).

    But if you think you will enjoy it and stick with it, you might want to look into something a bit higher end, depending on price range. I really like my bike, but my brother recently got a better bike, a Scott Comp 29er, and I am very jealous, especially at the price he got it for: 750 bucks.

    But I will say this: The Revel 0 and even the Revel 1 comes with some pretty nice stock components...things you wont need to be upgrading and way better than the Revel 2. I would take a good look at your budget and see what you can afford, because you will see if you look around these boards: it is easy to get bit by the upgrade bug if you have cheap parts, then you end up spending a good amount on parts...but its fun!

    I definitely endorse the Revel Frame, its quite strong and has taken a beating. Keep me updated on what you go with!

    Also, check around the bike shops to see which shops are more of a well-run pro shop with good mechanics, as opposed to a franchise or chain. I made the mistake of going to a place with crap mechanics that just sell bikes and dont know too much about them.
  • 05-02-2012
    cobba
    Have you still got those Avid CPS washers on the brakes ?
  • 05-05-2012
    fbabrove
    Cobba! I am sorry that I never responded...I actually took it in to my LBS and they removed them. I bought the brakes on ebay and they said that those washers must have been put on by the seller. Thanks so much, and I respect/admire your keen eye!
  • 05-06-2012
    tomcollins15
    That's a sweet bike. The Revel 2 is on my short list.
  • 05-08-2012
    Tninl
    This has to be the most decked out Revel 2 i have ever seen. I work at a bike shop that sells Trek and Giant and at the revel price level i always push them they really are great bikes for the money. The Trek 3500 which is the same price is a joke compared to this bike component and frame wise.

    That is awesome you got it down to 23 pounds, I weighed a stock revel 2 the other day and was shocked it tipped the scale at 32 pounds. I bet it rides like a completely different bike, although it basically is. Correct me if i am wrong but i do not see one stock component..haha
  • 05-08-2012
    fbabrove
    Thanks Tninl, I have also fixed some of the issues pointed out in this forum (shorter stem especially). I built it up on the cheap with internet deals, to be honest. Also, I test-rode some trek 3500s, and I did not like the feel of it at all!

    And there is only one more stock component left, but you can't see it... the headset--though I did change the bearing cups and grease them up.

    Can you answer a question that I have asked lots of people, and gotten no answers: what the heck type of headsets does Giant use??
  • 05-08-2012
    Tninl
    On the Giant Revel bicycles they use a semi integrated headset, basically it does have the bearing races pressed in but they are not visible like the traditional press in headsets. This gives a cleaner look IMO compared to the traditional press in headsets.

    The downfall is there are not many options for aftermarket headsets, like a cartridge bearing set up. At least not any that i know of i could be wrong though.

    I can ask my giant rep next time he comes in and let you know what he comes up with. I have noticed trek doing this on several models too so I am sure its just a matter of time before they are readily available.
  • 05-09-2012
    shenny88
    looks like a zero stack headset... should be plenty of options; like the Cane Creek ZS-3
  • 05-09-2012
    jjarrett79
    How much do you have in it after upgrades?
  • 05-10-2012
    CS2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jjarrett79 View Post
    How much do you have in it after upgrades?

    I was wondering that myself. The bike actually has some very nice components. I think it looks great. Congratulations on a build well done.
  • 05-11-2012
    irvs
    Awesome you've changed soo much on the bike, I also have a giant revel but ive got the revel 1. I'm looking to replace the front forks like what you did.

    As the revel 1 has an 80mm sr suntour fork (pure rubbish) and the revel 1 ltd has a rockshock 100mm fork I'm unsure what size to up grade to???

    I was told not to go anymore than 20mm longer than standard so does that mean I could run something with 120mm of suspension travel???

    What forks dis you upgrade to???

    Thanks loads Neil.
  • 05-11-2012
    fbabrove
    Hey Neil, because this is such an expensive upgrade, I did a ton of research before buying the fork. After a ton of people on this forum recommended the it, I went with the Manitou Minute Expert, 100mm. It has made a HUGE difference, and everyone was right: this feels like a much more expensive fork than it actually is.

    As for the questions about how much my upgrades have cost, the rims cost me $150, $279 for the fork, and $70 for the cranks, hydro disc brakes for 70. Handle bars were 40, stem was 20. Tires I most likely would have upgraded on any bike. All of this brings me in at just barely under $1000 with the cost of the original bike (I got it for $320). I bought most of the parts from Jenson USA and Ebay.
  • 05-11-2012
    irvs
    Thanks for the reply, is 100mm the max suspension travel to go for on the frame?

    Thanks loads Neil.
  • 05-11-2012
    zebrahum
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by irvs View Post
    Thanks for the reply, is 100mm the max suspension travel to go for on the frame?

    Thanks loads Neil.

    As a general guideline, you don't want to exceed 20mm more than the manufacturer's spec'd travel. If you ask the manufacturer they will probably say that if you exceed the travel at all then you void the warranty, so that might be worth considering if a warranty applies to your frame.
  • 05-11-2012
    irvs
    That's the thing the revel 1 comes with an sr suntour 80mm fork (rubbish) and the revel 1 ltd has a 100mm rock shock, exactly same frame just better components. I'm thinking just get an awesome 100mm fork or could I get a 120mm fork???
    This stuff confuses me :(
  • 05-11-2012
    zebrahum
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by irvs View Post
    That's the thing the revel 1 comes with an sr suntour 80mm fork (rubbish) and the revel 1 ltd has a 100mm rock shock, exactly same frame just better components. I'm thinking just get an awesome 100mm fork or could I get a 120mm fork???
    This stuff confuses me :(

    That probably means that the Revel is compatible with 100mm forks. A longer travel fork will slack out the bike making it handle slower but more comfortable through bumps and steep terrain. If you make too large a difference in travel, you can end up with "flop" where the wheel tends not to want to come back to center once it is turned. It's not so fun at slow speeds.

    My old frame was designed for 65mm forks and with an 80mm fork it does have a small tenancy to flop. It was impossible to ride with the fork in the 100mm configuration; kind of funny, but I would never take it out on the trail like that. Ideally you would find a fork with travel adjust that would allow you to ride from 80mm to 120mm and see what each one feels like.

    Practically speaking I would just buy a fork with a decent quality damper system and 100mm of travel. The difference in quality of travel is much more important than the difference in increased travel on a bike not built for it.
  • 05-11-2012
    irvs
    Thanks that clears it up for me, I'll just have to get an awesome 100mm shock.

    Thanks LOADS neil
  • 05-11-2012
    giantone
    Caution not all 100mm forks have the same axle to crown length which is a more important measure of compatibility.

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  • 05-11-2012
    irvs
    So I want something roughly the same length as my original but 100mm travel???
  • 05-11-2012
    giantone
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by irvs View Post
    So I want something roughly the same length as my original but 100mm travel???

    Yep. Happy fork hunting

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  • 05-11-2012
    irvs
    Thank you LOADS.

    Neil
  • 05-14-2012
    reedfe
    Wow congrats! Do you have a build list for this?
  • 12-07-2012
    Ginbilog
    Excuse me for butting in, I just have to field this question to more experienced mtbikers. I upgraded the fork Giant Revel 0 from the XCM fork to that of Epicon. The new fork's travel however is at 120mm. Can the geometry of my bike handle the 20mm increase in fork travel? Will its headtube not suddenly snap after some time of heavy use? Thanks in advance!
  • 12-13-2012
    BigHit-Maniac
    Dude, that bike looks fantastic! I love the blue wheelset as well. :thumbsup:

    I must say though, that stem has GOT to go. Holy out-in-space over-hang batman! :D
  • 12-26-2012
    irvs
    Hey I'd like to jump in with my revel 1, I had asked previously about changing the fork. Well the bike is totally different now, only standard parts are the breaks which are totally rubbish and will be changed soon and of course the frame.

    What I've upgraded;
    fork:100mm rockshox recon single air.
    Wheels: mavic cross rides.
    Front/rear mech: shimano deore.
    Cassette: smimano 9 speed deore.
    Shifters: shimano 3x9 deore.
    Tyres: maxxis minions.
    Seat post: rockshox reverb.
    Stem: race face 50mm.
    Handle bars: 680mm Ritchie carbon.
    Grips: lizard skins "peaty"

    That's it I think pretty much a different bike from when I got it. It's been my dpi it all bike from hard trail riding, to xc racing, to enduro racing, I can't complain with the bike other than coming with TOTALLY rubbish components as standard. Only problem I've got now is jumping, I'm jumping bigger and further and the bike is struggling a bit now I'm sure it won't be long till it breaks.

    Neil.
  • 12-30-2012
    CS2
    Anyone try a 650B swap?
  • 01-25-2013
    Shaney Boogz
    What parts do you have for the 1x9? I really want to do this on my revel 1
  • 01-25-2013
    SQUIRRELSHOOTR
    That's a light weight revel..I have a 2011 Revel 0 and its right at the 35lb mark. Would you mind telling a total cost on the project. I'd love to get mine down to that weight. Could you post some full pictures of the bike?
  • 03-02-2013
    Mr Cup
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    Anyone try a 650B swap?

    I was wondering this also. I've got a revel frame sitting around and was thinking about doing a fun build with it. I don't have any 650b wheels to try but from looking at it with a 29er wheel in the rear, which didn't fit with a 2.1 tire but I was able to install the wheel, I think a 650b might fit. Tempting....