Giant or Specialized

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  • 11-26-2012
    Lstafford
    Giant or Specialized
    Hi,

    Ive been looking around for a good full suspension bike and i think ive arrowed it down to 2 bikes

    2012 specialized camber elite (green & black) 1450
    Or
    2013 giant trance x 29er 2 1499

    What do you guys think?
  • 11-26-2012
    jlmuncie
    Both are good bikes. Have you ridden them?
  • 11-26-2012
    Tone's
    Giant trance any day of the week, its Maestro sus is the factor that gets my vote, not to mention that ive never really heard a bad word about it and is a great bike to ride.
    Try them both and see which one takes your fancy, but theres only one id pick, cheers
  • 11-26-2012
    Lstafford
    Ive ridden the specialized but not the giant
    None of my LBS stock the giant
    However they will order one in if i want to buy it
  • 11-26-2012
    Lstafford
    Ive compared the components on the specialized to a lt of other bikes in its price range and they seem to be very good at its price?
    How do the giants components stack up against the specialized?
    (I dont know loads about the technical parts of bikes hense im on here ;))
  • 11-26-2012
    Tone's
    Mate look up the giant website, it will have a full rundown of the specs, and post this blog in the giant sub forum here and/or ask the guys in that forum about the bike and do the same for the spec in the spec forum, that way you can make a more informed decision, research is very important.
  • 11-26-2012
    Lstafford
    I've been looking for god knows how long just wanted anoth opinion.
    As I said I'm no bike expert so not sure how the gearing and brakes compare to the specialized
  • 11-26-2012
    zebrahum
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lstafford View Post
    I've been looking for god knows how long just wanted anoth opinion.
    As I said I'm no bike expert so not sure how the gearing and brakes compare to the specialized

    There isn't any part on either bike that makes me say that one is automatically a better deal than the other. Which means the only reason to pick one over the other is that you like riding it. This is, of course, complicated by the fact you can't find the Giant to test ride. Are there any other Giant dealers within a reasonable distance of you that you might be able to find one to test ride? If not, well you'll have to make a decision and all the internet opinions in the world won't be able to tell you for sure which one to buy.

    Hopefully this may ease your mind: both are amazing bikes and it would be hard to go wrong.
  • 11-26-2012
    Lstafford
    Thanks, I've emailed all the dealers on the giant website within a decent range of where I live and some aren't stocking till next year and others and stocking at all.
    Although a few of the bike shops do have alternative giant full sus like the
    2013 giant trance x3 and a few anthems.

    If the components are just as good as each other I guess it's down to how it feels to ride like you said and the looks if the the 2 bikes

    Eurghhh I've been looking to long haha, just want to get one if them they both look amazing (in my opinion) and I'm sure they both ride well...
  • 11-26-2012
    Lstafford
    Between the 2 which would u buy?
  • 11-26-2012
    mimi1885
    Spech may be plusher during some rough descend, but Giant is definitely better overall. Pedal better without any propedal/brain, climb really well full open, accelerate better out of the corner. All on full open shock.
  • 11-26-2012
    blockphi
    One thing to keep in mind in Giant's stellar warranty on the frame. Lifetime, and they mean it. I had an 04 NRS frame that I destroyed a few months back and Giant sent me a new Anthem X frame as a replacement. No questions. Granted, I'll need to build this new one up, but I doubt that in the event of a breakage you'd get the same from Specialized.
  • 11-26-2012
    mimi1885
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blockphi View Post
    One thing to keep in mind in Giant's stellar warranty on the frame. Lifetime, and they mean it. I had an 04 NRS frame that I destroyed a few months back and Giant sent me a new Anthem X frame as a replacement. No questions. Granted, I'll need to build this new one up, but I doubt that in the event of a breakage you'd get the same from Specialized.

    Holy crap! really? Kudos to Giant. Most of the bike companies "lifetime" warranty is based on the bike so read the fine print. Some are as little as 5 years, so much for a lifetime part.;)

    Though I must say that many good bikes companies would offer special deal even when the frame is out of warranty, just be nice when you ask:thumbsup:
  • 11-26-2012
    zebrahum
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lstafford View Post
    Between the 2 which would u buy?

    The one I liked riding better.
  • 11-26-2012
    RobinGB
    Spec and giant have just slightly different sizes, i do prefer the maestro suspension but both are great bikes. Both are from massive massive companies, with many many dealers and lots of customer support and years in the industry.

    I am partial to Giant, but i would jump on a specialized bike and ride it like it was stolen any day. I mean if i wasnt afraid of my bike becoming insecure and killing me next time i rode it. lol

    oh wow, the camber is 120mm travel... these bikes are pretty damn close

    being that its a year old and a good price i think the suspension package on the camber is a little bit better, but i think the suspension system on the giant is better.
  • 11-26-2012
    Lstafford
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zebrahum View Post
    The one I liked riding better.

    I'm trying to get a rid on the giant but I haven't found any shops that have them in store, I just sent another batch of emails out to other shops that are more distant and am hoping for the best
  • 11-27-2012
    Nzginzu
    I would aay go with the Giant but i am bias as I ride a giant reign 1, but if you have ride the specialized and are happy about it then get it as it seems there ain't any giant dealer lbs near you.. So when it comes to servicing and stuff it could be a pain not having a shop near you.
  • 11-27-2012
    Lstafford
    I've got giant dealers near me, it's just none of them are stocking the 29er. They'll order one in if I want it.
    Just have to wait on couple more emails and hope
  • 11-27-2012
    RobinGB
    Im kinda shocked, where i am the new trance x 29ers was the first thing put together and in the window.

    Where is it your riding?, i know south of where i am its really steep and rocky and the 29ers never rally took off. But north of where i ride they are hugely popular due to the riding style.

    When i go into a new area usually the bikes the store is stocking is a hint to the riding styles.
  • 11-27-2012
    Lstafford
    I take trips up to the Lake District to bike so I need something that's good at both climbing and descending, when I'm not in the Lake District it will be just XC stuff and going to forest areas like thetford, rendlesham etc

    So nothing demanding
  • 11-27-2012
    RobinGB
    maybe give a call to a giant dealer thats in the next town or city over and see if they have one you can test ride of demo for an afternoon.

    Both bikes are more then ideal for the type of riding your describing. Long travel 29ers will rush down hill and both climb well enough.
  • 11-28-2012
    Lstafford
    I've contacted a giant store and they said they have the trance in store and they have a demo bike so planning to go and have a ride Friday bit of a trek to get there (85miles) but oh well
  • 11-28-2012
    RobinGB
    small price to pay whent he possible outcome is getting a bike you dont like.

    enjoy the test ride
  • 11-28-2012
    Lstafford
    Will do :P
    Just found outta insurance claim bike is arriving Friday aswell do hopefully that will come in the morning... Plan is to trade it in :P
    ( insurance claim on stolen bike: 2013 specialized rock hopper 600)
  • 11-28-2012
    suiramy
    Giant Trance my friend. I got the x4, did some upgrades, never looked back. MAestro allthe way :)
  • 11-30-2012
    Lstafford
    Had a test ride one the trance today, think I'm going with it :D
  • 11-30-2012
    zebrahum
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lstafford View Post
    Had a test ride one the trance today, think I'm going with it :D

    See why the test ride is so important? Just remember that you can't go wrong if you buy whatever bike you like the most.
  • 11-30-2012
    Lstafford
    Ye I was definitely going to ride before I buy it was just a pain to find a shop that was actually stocking it :P
  • 12-01-2012
    gasnit
    I prefer the way the FSR suspension works, also the Specialized bikes tend to have shorter chain stays and lower bb which allows for better handling. Just my pennies worth.
  • 12-08-2012
    elvisagain
    I had a Reign 2009 and I have to say the maestro is best suspension system Ive tried.
    Id go for a giant but its kinda ugly looking the camber looks better.

    And what about: Commencal meta 29er and Canyon Nerve AL29
  • 12-08-2012
    John
    1) Don't get a brain bike
    2) Avoid avid brakes
    3) That's pretty much it.

    I realize many shops DO NOT allow test rides (on trails) just farting around in the parking lot. SO finding the right fit without spending a ton of money is important, as you will likely not get a new one every year.
  • 12-09-2012
    jxpowers
    test them both yo
  • 12-09-2012
    jxpowers
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by John View Post
    1) Don't get a brain bike
    2) Avoid avid brakes
    3) That's pretty much it.

    .

    ive been told that avid brakes are one of the best for affordable prices
  • 12-09-2012
    shibiwan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jxpowers View Post
    ive been told that avid brakes are one of the best for affordable prices

    It's hit or miss. If you know how to maintain the Avids, they usually hold up. Otherwise the pads drag or the cylinders get stuck a little too often.

    (FYI - I have Avids and I'm waiting for my Shimano Saints to arrive - tired of all the excessive maintainence on the avids).

    -S
  • 12-13-2012
    BigHit-Maniac
    Out of the two, these days,I'd pick the Giant. I'm a Specialized guy too, to be honest.

    I'll tell you why:

    1. Specialized truly thinks they're the biggest badass of the bike industry, and they command prices now-a-days that are obscene in comparison to other bikes in their categories.

    2. They really do bully their bike shops. I was looking to get a Cannondale for my next bike, out of my favorite LBS that USED TO carry Giant, Specialized, Cannondale, and several others including Ellsworth, Yeti, Pivot, etc. Specialized said they'd pull the dealer off their list unless they dropped BOTH Giant and Cannondale. The only reason my LBS complied, was because in snooty-ass Las Vegas that particular shop can move the most Specialized products across the floor, and actually bring a profit to keep their doors open.
    (sad but true).

    3. I've personally lost a LOT of respect for Specialized. They either offer bottom-of-the-barrel "entry" models, or everything worth a sh** costs $5,000 +. Its ludicrous.

    4. Their freakin KIDS bikes cost the same amount now that my "entry level" Trek 4300 cost not 3 years ago.

    I've since ridden a buddy's Giant Anthem, and another's Giant Trance X, and I'll tell you I was absolutely blown away by how they rode. I was thoroughly impressed.

    Give them a shot.

    .... I'll continue on my quest to purchasing a Cannondale Claymore for 2013. :thumbsup:
  • 12-13-2012
    millertm
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BigHit-Maniac View Post
    Out of the two, these days,I'd pick the Giant. I'm a Specialized guy too, to be honest.

    I'll tell you why:

    1. Specialized truly thinks they're the biggest badass of the bike industry, and they command prices now-a-days that are obscene in comparison to other bikes in their categories.

    :thumbsup:

    I aggree with you on that. Specialized are the "Intel" of the bike market. However, that allows for a good discount. I got my $1650 Carve for $1320, which enabled me to upgrade to TX trail and Ice Tech with XT shifters for about $400. This brings my total to about $1700 for a nice bike. Giant is a great brand as is Cannondale. Ride what you feel fits you better. Price is not a huge deal on a investment as long as you enjoy your ride.

    Mark
  • 12-14-2012
    skidad
    Giant with the Maestro would get my vote for sure. You can replace parts, not suspension design. FSR ain't bad, Maestro is just better.
  • 12-16-2012
    gallinso
    similar dilemma
    , I have a dilemma, I am a beginner and looking at a full sus bike for around 1000, I have two ideas at the moment and I would appreciate any comments from any more experienced riders. The two bikes are;

    2012 Giant Trance X4 or Diamondback Sortie 1

    Any ideas?....

    Many thanks from a confused newbie!

    Graeme
  • 12-16-2012
    Rakuman
    Get the Giant I'm a Spesh guy also, but my sons been racing Giant Anthems lately and I wrench them and love the way they feel, a suspension that doesn't need propedal for sure, I'm dumping my stumpy for a Trance first chance I get...:thumbsup::thumbsup:
  • 12-20-2012
    Kaussy
    I just went through this same dilemma... I went with the giant trance x1 29er. Love the bike!!!!!
  • 12-21-2012
    Spearman
    Giant Trance hands down
  • 12-25-2012
    CS2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by John View Post
    1) Don't get a brain bike
    2) Avoid avid brakes
    3) That's pretty much it.

    I realize many shops DO NOT allow test rides (on trails) just farting around in the parking lot. SO finding the right fit without spending a ton of money is important, as you will likely not get a new one every year.

    1. Why no brain?
    2. Agreed, they squeal.
    3. No comment.
  • 12-25-2012
    kikoraa
    Lot of giant and spec riders where i live. I ride a trance. I bought an x4 and upgraded the drivetrain and fork to fox and have fallen in love. Giant is also way more bike for the money as opposed to spesh.

    Trance is the funnest bike i have ever ridden. I wanted an anthem29 and demoed my buddies. Loved the speed and the big wheels but it just wasnt as fun as my trance.

    Trance all the way
    Giant all the way
  • 12-25-2012
    Unkown
    Always try both bikes before deciding anything, that seems to be the best policy to me.
  • 12-25-2012
    John
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CS2 View Post
    1. Why no brain?
    2. Agreed, they squeal.
    3. No comment.

    Better test one before you buy one on a piece of technical climb that you are familiar with. If you know anyone with a Brain bike of the right size try it. But for all around trail riding I personally prefer a very active suspension set correctly for my weight.

    I want small to large bump compliance at all speeds, and the Brains (as of 2011) were still not as good as a fully open non-brain Stumpjumper shock.

    With that said, I just ordered a 2013 Stumpjumper FSR Expert Carbon 29er, and YES it is a Brain bike. People have convinced me to give the new version (it was changed slightly for 2012+) a try. BUT my out is getting a COMP shock and bolting it in if the Brain fails to impress. The Brain can become a spare.

    I know people will say get this or that bike, value vs what you are getting, but buy local in any event. Get the bike that suits your riding from a local shop, so warranty and (possibly) repairs are easier. I wrench my own bikes 100%.
  • 01-03-2013
    snakes1021
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by millertm View Post
    I aggree with you on that. Specialized are the "Intel" of the bike market. However, that allows for a good discount. I got my $1650 Carve for $1320, which enabled me to upgrade to TX trail and Ice Tech with XT shifters for about $400. This brings my total to about $1700 for a nice bike. Giant is a great brand as is Cannondale. Ride what you feel fits you better. Price is not a huge deal on a investment as long as you enjoy your ride.

    Mark

    WOW! I ride specialized and work for Intel.

    Spechie has a lifetime frame warranty as well. Never had any issues with any of my spechies, my last bike was a spec xc expert 2007 or 8 I dont remember but never had an issue price point was just under 2k good components for the money. I haven't rode a Giant maybe im missing out but I have no issues with what I have if it aint broke dont fix it.
  • 01-04-2013
    MntMeg
    Specialized, but that's just my preference. It depends on what you are looking for. Good luck in your decision. I'm sure you'll make the one that brings you the greatest bike happiness.
  • 01-05-2013
    John
    One of my first high end bikes was a 2001 GIANT NRS 1 that I built up, I loved that bike, For only 3.25" travel it was a great ride. The unfortunate fact was that GIANT stopped supporting the frame after a few years, and it was impossible to get the necessary cheap suspension parts to fix the worn out chainstay bushings that needed replacing yearly.

    So , in 2004, I bought a Specialized Stumpjumper FSR. No problems with parts because there are no bushings. Broke the shock link on it after 4 years, and got a new one (with a bigger shock bolt) in a few days no problems. And haven't had a different brand since, although I have been tempted to try IBIS Mojo and PIVOT 5.7.

    But I won't ever buy another GIANT bike. One big fail on GIANTs part and they lost me as a customer forever. I can't be induced to go back.
  • 01-09-2013
    RcaswellLostinlv
    New to site was looking for some advice I can not purchase a new mtb cost wise is killing me but found one on Craigslist it's a rocky mountain element I have no model # or date of when he purchased it it has dual suspension fox shocks grey in color with black maple leaves on it tried finding something about it online not much there was wondering if anybody have ridden these and what you thought of it , they are askingf $700 any help would be much appreaciated , thanks for your time Ray
  • 01-15-2013
    Adz
    Giant