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    Communist Manifesto-Revolution behind the Titanium Curtain

    World economies on the brink of collapse, Obama turning the US into a socialist nightmare and the Zombie apocolypse is evident. Figured I better get a titanium hard tail 29er before the sh$t hits the fan.

    Checked out this forum for ideas and reviews and came across this Russian guy who makes trials bikes and unicycles. Guys dropping 6' and higher to flat, some nut job hiking up a cliff and then bombing down on a unicycle and a girl riding a unicycle down what looks like a ski resort WTF All this begins in a clandestine factory in Russia. The only thing I know about Russia is communism, salad dressing and hot looking female spies that seduce their targets then use ninja moves resulting in violent painful death.

    So I email Dmitry and send a deposit for an XC 29 hard tail that will be able to outrun locomotives, leap tall buildings in a single bound and be able to stick the landing of a McDougle 9000. After discussing some details he figures out the geo and sends a drawing. I like a sloping top tube and he tweaks it a bit to fit the geo. Finish will be a bead blast with shiny decals - Triton standard plus the Russian term for "Revolution!" across the top tube. Thought the hammer and sickle would be a nice touch and think Triton should use it with their logo.

    The cad drawing:


    Time goes by but communication continues. Dmitry is good about keeping me posted. There are delays. He gets married,for him but the Zombies don't wait! There is a tube shortage Gotta be Bush's fault Between him and Obama I'm dying here! Anyway Dmitry keeps me in the loop and is good about answering emails.

    I have all the parts for the build and the time has given me a chance to pick up some cool parts. Got XT drive train and cranks, Thompson seat post, Loaded stem and seat post clamp among other things.

    My frame is getting ready and D sends these pics







    To quote the black militants of the 60's and 70's: "the Revolution will not be televised!" but I will post more pics on MTBR!

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    You made a mistake when you ordered your bike.
    It should have been a 26er instead of the 29er. There are more 26s out there which will leave you with more wheels when SHTF or Zombie apocalypse. Just like you should go with an AR-15 or AK-47 because there are more of them out there for you to scavenge out of the abandoned houses when there are riots and half of the people run for the hills.
    I would suggest a couple of water bottle mounts on the seat stays so you can carry extra water, ammo, or a really convenient rifle sheath. Good for quick draw goodness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperVHMMWV View Post
    You made a mistake when you ordered your bike.
    It should have been a 26er instead of the 29er. There are more 26s out there which will leave you with more wheels when SHTF or Zombie apocalypse. Just like you should go with an AR-15 or AK-47 because there are more of them out there for you to scavenge out of the abandoned houses when there are riots and half of the people run for the hills.
    I would suggest a couple of water bottle mounts on the seat stays so you can carry extra water, ammo, or a really convenient rifle sheath. Good for quick draw goodness.
    Been there done that - already got a Santa Cruz Heckler in my quiver!
    29er rolls over debris and zombie bodies much better than the 26, especially with only 1 hand on the bar (other hand is wielding the AK).

    This bike is for the Revolution!

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    I don't know if the former USSR is the right place to expect a zombie revolution. They do have zombies. Just search the internet for photos of Russian young people passed out in the snow outside of nightclubs. Revolution, I'm not so sure. I did not know that zombies were keen on revolution anyway.

    "The titanium curtain". Good one. The first titanium I got was for building backpacking stoves with. It was from Russia, back in the 1990s.That was when they first started selling their titanium reserves.

    Good luck with the frame. Let us know your experience.

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    Love it and the bent top tube. Can't wait to see the finished product. Make sure to give us a ride report.
    What size tubing and how long is your ETT?
    Sweet ride bro!

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    Components ready to go:

    Red accent for Soviet effect



    Loaded stem and seat post clamp



    XT drive train



    BB7 stoppers



    Performance Forte carbon riser bar - used this on other bikes, lite, strong and around $70.00




    For the wheel set I have some P-XC's off a 2011 Giant Anthem X29 set up tubeless with 2.4 Racing Ralphs. My plan is to get some Stan's Arch EX with Hope hubs eventually. I'm running this combo on my Anthem 29 and love it and if this hard tail works out I will go for the Stan's.

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    I thought the blueing on the welds for Ti was a bad thing?
    Everytime I think it hurts.
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    Oh man the frame looks beautiful. Hopefully it will last you a very long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BacDoc View Post
    Thought the hammer and sickle would be a nice touch and think Triton should use it with their logo.
    How about German manufacturers using swastika on their products, would that be a nice touch, too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    How about German manufacturers using swastika on their products, would that be a nice touch, too?
    There is a big difference between the swastika and the hammer and sickle

    Political revolution has been and will always be a part of history. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the russian revolution was not about ethnic cleansing/extermination. The swastika and the nazi regime is an entirely different agenda.

    I chose the logo simply because of aesthetics and a historical Soviet theme. No intention of racial or ethnic hatred is implied. In other words chill out bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BacDoc View Post
    There is a big difference between the swastika and the hammer and sickle
    Yeah, the big difference is that communism claimed an order of magnitude more innocent lives than fascism. F*ck fascism, f*ck communism, f*ck swastika, f*ck hammer and sickle!

    You are not cool, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    How about German manufacturers using swastika on their products, would that be a nice touch, too?
    Pretty much the same thing as above. Josef Stalin killed more people than Hitler and communism continues to oppress millions of people worldwide.

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    Got this fork a while back when had the deal going.




    Marz Micro Ti Bomber - and there is no offensive/political intent of matching "Bomber" with the hammer and sickle decals

    Heard some good reports on this fork which is adjustable 100mm-120mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BacDoc View Post
    Got this fork a while back when had the deal going.




    Marz Micro Ti Bomber - and there is no offensive/political intent of matching "Bomber" with the hammer and sickle decals

    Heard some good reports on this fork which is adjustable 100mm-120mm.
    I have that fork too, it's nice.

    I thought you red staters were anti communism. I was wrong, sorry.

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    Guys!

    Please keep the politics out of this thread - its a bike build thats it! Because it's a Russian frame and the Russian Revolution was a significant part of the country's history, I chose the russian script of revolution as a graphic . As I understand it the Russian Revolution was the result of oppression of workers and laborers by the Tsarist regime. The workers believed those who worked the land deserved more rights than being slaves to wealthy land owners hence the revolution. What the leaders of a political movement do with power is subject to eternal debate and lets keep that out of this thread!

    I know that red/ blue has something to do with democrat/republican but don't know which is which and don't care!. I work and try to ride my bikes or surfboards in my free time. Could care less about politics.

    Find the parallel between Asian/communist production of goods (especially bike related) and the capitalist marketing of such goods interesting. Those who hate communism and are most vocal, may be some of the biggest consumers (and therefore supporters) of the end product that perpetuates the regime. Think bike, computer etc. My thought was a purchase of a russian frame that is supporting a capitalist (Dmitry), and that purchase is a vote against a communist monopoly in the bike market.

    But really I just liked what Dmitry has put out there and these are some cool frames!

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    Sorry, enjoy you're frame. You know Russian Ti is all surplus and radioactive, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    Sorry, enjoy you're frame. You know Russian Ti is all surplus and radioactive, right?
    Right. It glows in the dark lighting up your path. I love this feature. No need for LED torch.

    Boeing use mainly Russian titanium from the same supplier/factory we get the tubing from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triton Bikes View Post
    Right. It glows in the dark lighting up your path. I love this feature. No need for LED torch.

    Boeing use mainly Russian titanium from the same supplier/factory we get the tubing from.
    I like my boys too much to chance it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    I like my boys too much to chance it ...
    Where do you live? If you have time, research "Fukushima " accident reports and radiation release. That incident was rated the same as Chernobyl - 7 (doesn't get any worse) and radioactive isotopes were found along the west coast of the US 2 days after the meltdown.

    Traces of caesium 137 from that disaster have been found in human and animal tissue along the west coast of the US. There have been several other nuclear disasters around the world ranked 5 on the scale, TMI in Pa. being one. Yes I'm concerned but when it comes to radiation exposure on this planet you can run but you can't hide

    Yes I like my boys too, but radioactive Ti from Triton? Come on give me a brake! Mechanical disc BB 7 to keep thread back on topic

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    Once again a " Hey, here's my new bike'" thread turns into a sh#t slinging contest.
    Great bike you're building. Definately jealous. Ride report when done would be great
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    Quote Originally Posted by trodaq View Post
    Once again a " Hey, here's my new bike'" thread turns into a sh#t slinging contest.
    Great bike you're building. Definately jealous. Ride report when done would be great
    Exactly!

    I have enjoyed and learned a lot from the build threads on this forum. Love to see what riders are using and how its put together. I enjoy the gear and building almost as much as I like to ride and put this out there for those who feel the same.

    Haven't been on a hard tail since the 80's and curious to see how this compares to my current rides (SC Heckler 26 and Giant Anthem X 29). We don't have elevation here in Florida but some great single track/trails with natural and man made technical features and year round riding.

    Full suspension works well on these trails but the added maintenance and complications of the rear shock make the HT appealing. I take good care of my bikes but find it hard to follow factory service intervals, if you ride a lot you're doing shock/fork maintenance several times a year. Need to replace bushings on the RP23 and maybe frame bushings and the bike is just over 1 year old. Simplicity of a HT is looking better all the time and riding the same trails on different style of bike keeps things interesting. Besides all that I'm a gear head!

    Will post more pics and ride report when it happens.

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    How much did the frame cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcarterdman View Post
    How much did the frame cost?
    These are custom Ti frames and price depends on what you want! There are many options including geometry, finish and things like dropouts fender mounts etc. For pricing check out the website.

    The bottom line is less expensive than some other sources but you have to wait longer for the final product. My frame is pretty close to being ready after about 7 months since deposit. Dmitry is good with communication and a few things were changed and tweaked along the way. With custom you have many options

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    Frame arrived today. Took the pic next to a vintage ('85) steel Pinarello.



    Will post some more pics as the build progresses.

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    What's in the box? The suspense is killing me. Open it up to see what came in the mail.
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    Frame looks great! Bead blasted Ti color changes dramatically in different light :




    Triton has beautiful welds and the details are perfect, derailleur hangar, bottle mounts etc.




    I wanted space for the bigger tires and looks like 2.4's will be no problem.



    Nice head tube logo but I would suggest to Dmitry that a raised head badge would be icing on the cake.



    Very happy with the frame - well worth the wait


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    Dude! That is a very nice looking frame. Can't wait to see the build-up and ride report

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    Beatiful frame..... can,t wait to see the entire bike

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    Got a chance to start the build this weekend. Drive train is Shimano XT 2X10, this is the short cage RD.



    XT crank with BBG bash guard. The guy that runs BBG is great to work with and is available by cell or website, one man operation that puts out an awesome bash guard.



    Chris King headset, Loaded stem and Forte carbon bar (for around $80 it is a good, lite strong riser). I left a lot of steerer tube for fine tuning and will probably cut it down to 1 5cm spacer. Also have a 90mm Thompson which might work better but I love the Loaded look. Might break down and get the Loaded 90mm if this 100mm is too long.



    Marzzochi Bomber Micro TI set at 120 with option to go to 140mm.



    Thompson set back post, Loaded clamp and Selle Italia Ti rail saddle



    As she sits at this point, looks really clean and simple and now I know why some go for the single speed or fixed option. Cleanliness is next to Godliness!
    Too bad I'm old and lazy but maybe my next build



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    Wow, that is a great looking bike.

    I've asked this to a few others who have built Ti 29 HTs, why no Ti seat post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canyon93108 View Post
    Wow, that is a great looking bike.

    I've asked this to a few others who have built Ti 29 HTs, why no Ti seat post?
    Good question! If money was no object I would go with Ti, but don't know if there would be a noticeable ride difference . Think Ti posts go for over $200.

    Carbon is a good choice and there are some great deals on a carbon post. Thompson has been a standard for me and I like the look and the feel of their machined/lined surface.

    Loaded makes some great components, seat post being one of them but they don't offer a set back. Some of my trails have steep drop offs and soft terrain and on both of those I like a riding position that is more back loaded on the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Yeah, the big difference is that communism claimed an order of magnitude more innocent lives than fascism. F*ck fascism, f*ck communism, f*ck swastika, f*ck hammer and sickle!

    You are not cool, bro.
    wtf?

    Looks great man

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    Cables run and housing cut to fit - one of the more challenging things for me on a build. Good cable cutters (Felco's) make the job easier and Triton did a great job of cable routing, using zip tie guides and cable stops.

    Ran into a problem that is a function of short chainstays and beefy tires - front derailleur mount Not quite enough clearance for my XT FD Contacted Dmitry and he suggested an e-type that mounts to BB, should fit Anyway got one off ebay pretty cheap and will see how it fits. Good thing was low price, free shipping and I got it the next day Will try this afternoon to see how it fits.

    Here's how it looks now, chainstay wrap, red cable housing and gold KMC chain needs to be adjusted to fit soon as I get the FD mounted:



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    Wow, don't over-inflate your rear tire. Why did you want your chainstay so short?

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    Clean looking bike. Nice work

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavyRay View Post
    They do have zombies. Just search the internet for photos of Russian young people passed out in the snow outside of nightclubs.
    These.. things.. are not zombies. They are shaped by Ice Age caveman genes which were dormant until recently. Makes them dumber, stronger, more aggressive and more cold resistant than modern humans.


    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    How about German manufacturers using swastika on their products, would that be a nice touch, too?
    Imagine how hard it must be to practice Buddhism in Germany!



    (this statue of Buddha can also be accused of the Sieg Heil gesture, although lazily executed, as if he's been doing this for hours like leaders do at military parades.)


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    Oh, and the widely accepted acronym for singlespeed reads SS, just like the Nazi Schutzstaffel emblem rendered in Latin letters. Hmmm... the runic rendition of the same emblem could be used for a nice custom Ti singlespeed build...
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    Bonking ... not feelin' well

    Quote Originally Posted by Canyon93108 View Post
    Wow, don't over-inflate your rear tire. Why did you want your chainstay so short?
    2.4 Racing Ralph is pictured maxed out since I just did the tubeless mount and they have about 40lbs for bead set. Riding pressure will be in the 20's.

    Have an extra Crossmark 2.1 and that's the tire I run on the rear of my FS 29er. Will see if that works with room for an FD. Not sure what to do now since my E-type FD did not clear with the 2.4. This is full custom but thought the geo would allow for FD since that was my goal with the build. Thought Dmitry would take care of this in the frame build up

    I wanted short chainstays but wanted to run 2X10 with the 2.4's and this is how it turned out. The shorter stays really tighten up the ride and eliminate some of the rear end flex that comes with the 29. As a 1X this bike is awesome-haven't taken it on the trail but just a short ride around the house and I can feel the responsiveness. My other 29 (Giant anthem X1) is a great FS but feels a little noodley in the rear(not just the susp) and the turning radius is not even close to this Triton.

    So far I'm still fine tuning and finally adjusted the chain and put the RD and Bash on correct as I was having some trouble with chainline but it turns out it was my own stupidity

    Will post some pics of the adjusted/tuned stage.

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    I love irrational fear and ignorance of commies. Very entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BacDoc View Post
    Thought Dmitry would take care of this in the frame build up
    I remember warning a few customers who wanted short stays about it and I thought I had warned you too.
    I won't be searching through emails though.
    Possibly I missed this point.

    I will contact you to offer a solution on the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BacDoc View Post
    Frame arrived today. Took the pic next to a vintage ('85) steel Pinarello.



    Will post some more pics as the build progresses.

    That Pinarello is lovely!!!
    Good taste mah man.

    But I agree with some, chainstays look a bit short. If you slam your seat, the bike almost looks like a dirtjumper.

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    Dirt jumper! I resemble that remark!

    The trails I ride have tight and twisty with some man made jumps/berms/whoop dee doos, kind of like a pump track thru the woods. A short wheelbase rocks but so does a 29er so I want the best of both worlds. My 26 FS goes thru the tight nicely and my 29 FS rolls over the rooty tech like butter - maybe a short stay 29 Ti HT will do both and faster? That is the reason for this design

    A sign of a first class operation - Dmitry has already contacted me for a solution to my dilema of the front derailleur His priority is satisfied customer and that is apparent from my dealings with him.

    As for now I will ride it as a 1X10 and need to get time on the bike to dial in fork/saddle/bar position. Here are some pics with the parts installed correctly. Takes me about 5 times the time as the pros but I love the build process even with all the inevitable problems that arise.




    Wish I had a better camera - the welds and tubing is beautiful. Here is the BBG bash installed correctly:



    Rear derailleur install and chain adjusted properly:



    Marz Bomber set at 120mm with brake cable routing.






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    I really like this bike and can only imagine how it feels.
    Waiting for the hi-res photos for my Triton media diary and website
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    How durable is the bead blast finish compared to the sandblasted finish?

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    Will comment on durability as time goes on but for what its worth seems durable to me. in the build process things happen like trying different front derailleurs that clamp to the frame and having the chain drag across the stay and bottom bracket section. So far the finish seems tough but time will tell.

    Ride report:

    Managed to run a trail that has a good mix of tight twisty single track, roots, drop offs and some man made berms and jumps. Know this trail well and have put many miles here over the past year and a half with a FS 29 (Giant Anthem). I started off road riding in the 80's with a rigid Raliegh and then a hard tail with 90mm fork. Spent 4 years living in Santa Cruz where I got a FS Heckler in 96. Still have the Heckler, the Giant and this Triton, so thats where I'm coming from bike wise.



    Initial Impressions-

    Speed:
    I know why racers go with the HT when they can. Have not timed my laps on the Triton but feels faster than the Anthem which is a fast bike! Most noticeable out of corners and accellerating from low speed sections. No flex and more of an instant pedal transfer. As long as I was out of the saddle, it felt faster thru all sections. The FS is faster over those sections when I'm tired and worn out.

    Turning:
    Turning circle much tighter and thats what I suspected with the short stays and no suspension bob. Fast turning is good but at first it felt twitchy. Absolutely no tail flex when cornering hard. Surgical precision is an accurate term for this Triton. The Anthem corners well but tail flex is pretty noticeable and feels like a delayed bend and snap back.

    Control:
    HT has more feedback and bounce especially on faster chunky stuff. Have to be out of the saddle more than the FS, no suprises here. As I got tired and started sitting control suffered but more of my fatigue than a bike issue. FS is easier to get thru the nasty-no suprise here. BB height and 175 crank arms are same on both of my 29ers. I get no pedal strike with the Triton, the Anthem is not bad but I have to pay attention in some terrain to avoid pedal strike.

    Air:
    Not much of a free ride guy but get some air off a couple of features on the trail and the Triton launches well or better than the FS. Landings of course are easier on the FS and I felt a little squirelly on some but think it is more of a skill issue. The fast twitchy steering leads to instant response which is great if you're dialed in but the margin for error increases if you come in hot and fast.

    Bottom Line:

    Tight, fast and fun to ride. The Triton guys did a great job on this frame would definitely order another

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    Nice Write Up

    Thanks for the wirite ... the build came out looking real nice ..

    Curious, how long is your CS length?

    The way you describe the flex free, surgical precision of the frame is a great way to describe my Triton 29er.
    I didn't realize how much rear-end flex my Salsa Dos Niner had until I rode my Triton.... I suppose that is why so many of those Dos Niners cracked and production has stopped.
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    Ottoreni,

    Dmitry sent me cad drawings with the geo before we settled on the final measurements. On my bike as it is rigged the measurement from center of rear skewer to center of the BB is 17.25". The same measurement on my Giant Anthem is 18.5". That is not chainstay but not sure how they get a chainstay measurement. Her is a photo of both for comparison.




    You can see the difference. Total wheelbase on the Anthem is about 1.75" longer than the Triton.

    Ride report update:

    Went for an after work session on the trail with some of my usual riding buddies and a little tweak on the bike - WOW! this bike is awesome, no computer yet but used to riding with these guys and comparison to other riders is a great way to judge peed thru the trail. Bike is freaking fast!

    Getting the HT dialed in and made some changes in tire pressure and shock tune.
    First ride with Racing Ralph 2.4 tubeless with 30psi rear and 25psi front. Air in the Bomber was about the same in my other front forks, little less than half my riding weight or 90psi. Wasn't getting a lot of travel in the fork.

    Reading the Marz manual they suggest 38- 50psi for my weight so I took it down to 48/49 and lowered tire pressure to 20psi front and 25 rear (minimal rock, mostly roots). This made a difference in handling, control and comfort and I had a blast. Less fatigue at the end of the session and we hammered pretty good. Riding companions were pissed - cool looking bike and I just got faster, Ha!

    Dmitry nailed this one perfect. Very happy with this frame and I am stoked!

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    Chainstay Length ...

    Yup, there is effective chainstay versus actual chainstay.

    For my Triton, I have 436mm and 439mm. That puts mine just over 17.25"

    You must have a different seat-tube angle and BB drop than mine as I seem to have more clearance with my Racing Ralph.

    You riding Halpat on your review ride? It seems that may be one of the few local trails that is not flooded.


    Waiting to hear back from Dmitry as I just sent him the geo specs for my second Triton. Hopefully after he gets some RR from Eurobike, I will get an email.
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    Man! Two pages of this and not one Yakov Smirnoff joke. I'll start:

    In Soviet Russia, the chainstays shorten YOU! HA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BacDoc View Post
    Ran into a problem that is a function of short chainstays and beefy tires - front derailleur mount Not quite enough clearance for my XT FD Contacted Dmitry and he suggested an e-type that mounts to BB, should fit Anyway got one off ebay pretty cheap and will see how it fits. Good thing was low price, free shipping and I got it the next day Will try this afternoon to see how it fits.
    Have you tried an SLX E type that was designed for double chainrings and 36 tooth max? It has a shorter cage and so might fit. It looks, on my fatbike, like it could run up to at least a 38 tooth ring if that is important. I got it from Universal Cycles a couple of years ago. They might still have some or keep searching E Bay.
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    Will look into the SLX E type FD. For now I'm running 1X10 and seem to have enough gears. The XT FD will fit with a smaller tire - I have a Crossmark 2.1 on the rear of my Anthem and switched to the Triton for fit and it had clearance. The Racing Ralph's are 2.4 and I like the bigger volume on the rear for HT riding. Lowering the tire pressures made a significant difference in ride, way more noticeable on the HT than on the FS.

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