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    2011 Motobecane 700 HT or Sawback 5xx??

    Im torn! originally was going to pickup the Forge when they were like $420-450 shipped. Now they have gone to $430 plus shipping looking at like $480-$500

    The 2011 Motobecane 700 HT of course being $550 shipped....

    Its been over a decade since I last reviewed mountain bike components so im a little behind... Can you guys throw in your 2 cents based on components alone, if its worth the extra $. And please non of this "department store" bike crap, just wondering about components.


    2011 Motobecane 700 HT Mountain Bike

    Frame Custom 7005 Aluminum Trail-Tuned POWER STAY frame, box section chainstays, bi-axial gussetted downtube, sculpted rear dropouts with replaceable rear derailleur hanger, 2x H2O bosses, International Standard rear disc mounts Detailed Picture Gallery
    Fork RockShox Dart 2 Adjustable with Advanced LockOut (crown-mount lever)
    Crankset TruVativ 5D Aluminum Triple 22/32/42T 175mm (TruShift Rings)
    Bottom Bracket Sealed Cartridge
    Pedals ATB Beartrap (metal cages)
    Front Derailleur Shimano Deore Mega 9 top swing
    Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore XT long cage
    (Note: may differ from photos due to updated Shimano designs)
    Shifters Shimano Deore Mega 9 Speed STI Rapidfire Pods (27 speeds total)
    Cassette/Freewheel Cassette 11-32T 9 Speed Hyperglide
    Chain 9 Speed Z9000 Super Narrow
    Hubs Formula DiscSpecific Aluminum (black) Sealed Ball Bearing mechanism
    Spokes Stainless Steel
    Rims WTB SpeedDisc Rims Double Wall Aluminum
    Tires WTB Velociraptor Blackwall 26 x 2.10
    Brakes
    Mechanical Disc Brakes with Multi Pad Angle adjustments
    (Note: Brakes are Tektro Aquila or Avid BB5, No Choice)

    Brake Levers Tektro for Disc
    Headset Cane Creek Internal Sealed caged ball bearing VP A42E 1.125 inch
    Handlebar Skye Comp Aluminum Riser
    Stem Skye Comp Threadless Aluminum
    Tape/Grip WTB Dual Compound
    Saddle WTB Speed V with comfort groove
    Seat Post Skye Aluminum Micro-Adjust
    Seat Clamp Alloy w/QR
    Sizes 15, 17, 19, 21, 23 inch
    Colors Polished Silver Detailed Picture Gallery
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    Forge Sawback 5xx


    Frameset
    Size: 19" FRAME / STANDOVER HEIGHT 31.7"
    Color: CHARCOAL
    Frame: 6061 ALL ALUMINUM, DOUBLE-BUTTED, HYDROFORMED GUSSET, WITH DISC AND RACK/ FENDER MOUNTS
    Front Suspension: ROCKSHOX DART 1 W/ADJUSTABLE PRELOAD, 100MM TRAVEL
    Wheels
    Rims: WTB SPEEDDISC, 32-HOLE
    Hubs: JOYTECH ALLOY QR DISC 32H
    Spokes: 14G STAINLESS STEEL
    Tires: ITS NINJA 26X2.1"
    Drivetrain
    Speed: 27
    Shifters: SHIMANO DEORE
    Front Derailleur: SHIMANO ALIVIO
    Rear Derailleur: SHIMANO DEORE
    Crankset: TRUVATIV ISOFLOW ALUMINUM TRIPLE 22/32/42T
    Bottom Bracket: VP SEALED CARTRIDGE
    Cassete: SRAM PG950, 34-11T, 9 SPEED
    Chain: SHIMANO HG73
    Pedals: ALLOY PLATFORM
    Components
    Saddle: WTB PURE V SPORT
    Seat Post: ALLOY 30.8X350MM, ADJUST WITH QUICK RELEASE
    Handlebar: MTB-ALLOY 30MM RISE
    Stem: FORGE-ALLOY 105MM
    Grips: WTB TRAIL
    Brake Set: AVID BB-5, MECHANICAL DISC
    Brake Levers: TEKTRO ALLOY
    Extras: PRESTA VALVES, CATEYE REFLECTOR SET, TWO WATER BOTTLE MOUNTS, STORAGE RACK & FENDER MOUNTS CLEAR COAT PAINT FINISH AND OWNERS MANUAL

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    At 500 the forge isn't the great bargain it used to be. At the old price you could save the price difference toward a better fork and come out ahead.

    Bonuses for the 700ht: The dart 2 is the same fork as the 1 except it includes rebound control. That allows you to adjust how fast it returns to its normal position after it compresses. They list the weight of a small 700 with no pedals at ~28, so it may weigh slightly less if that weight is correct. The better rear derailleur should shift a little better.

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    Thanks for the input, I didn't see the weight listed so thanks for pointing that out... I'm deff leaning toward the moto for only $50 more I think the fork alone is worth it...

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    I too was looking at the Forge and wondering when it might go on sale, but now it looks like it has gone up!

    At that price for the Forge, I would think the $50 extra for the 700 HT is well worth it - better derailleurs, crankset, and fork. The fork upgrade alone is worth it, and the rest is gravy!

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    I too am looking at the Forge. I can't provide input on the differences in quality, but you can get 10% off if you create a Target.com account and enter the promo code "TCA27BAR". If you use a Target card you can save another 5% and just pay it off right away. That makes it $368 + tax, and shipping is free on items over $50 from Target.com. Yes, I have spent too much time figuring it out.

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    Thanks for the feedback, I just ordered a Motobecane Fantom 29 PRO

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    Congrats. Looks like a nice bike. I see you decided to bump that budget up a little.

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    Haha yeah... Ive heard it so may times I guess it finally stuck, spend more up front

    I may be weird, but actually enjoy upgrading... I just wasnt about to drop 2k until I know im going to get some good use out of it.

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    Looks like the Forge is on sale again - $369 or so and free shipping. Use the 10% coupon code and you're talking.

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    LOL! I waited 4 months for this... and received my new Moto Fantom today... Oh the irony

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    Well, the Fantom is a class above the Forge anyways, so it's all good, right?

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    Oh its all good alright... I love this bike

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    I own the Forge Sawback 5xx - great bikes for the price. AAA members gets 10% off on target.com. I also felt comortable shopping through Target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikefun
    I own the Forge Sawback 5xx - great bikes for the price. AAA members gets 10% off on target.com. I also felt comortable shopping through Target.
    How much does it weigh? (you can use the bathroom scale: weigh yourself, you+bike..subtract)

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    I just bought a used 2004 Giant Rainier (people have mentioned it's frame is remarkably similar to the Forge 5xx) for $80. Was neglected (lots of surface rust everywhere..chain, cassette, chainrings, most screws), & fouled up. Avid BBDB (equivalent to BB7), 9-speed cassette..remarkably similar to Forge 5xx (has BB5). Rock Shox Judy SL fork, Mavic X139 rims. Bike weighs 28 lbs.
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    How much does it weigh? (you can use the bathroom scale: weigh yourself, you+bike..subtract)
    31.94 lbs. There is a breakdown of component weights here : Forge Sawback 5xx 17" Silver

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    With the tires on the newer model, it should be under 31.

    I probably need to delete that table. It confuses people because it's the old model, which came with really heavy tires. If you read much of that looooooong thread, you will see that the original tires were boat anchors.

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    With the tires on the newer model, it should be under 31.

    I probably need to delete that table. It confuses people because it's the old model, which came with really heavy tires. If you read much of that looooooong thread, you will see that the original tires were boat anchors.
    True, mine came with Kenda Klaws that weigh around 600g each, not the Krushers that were 900+.
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