• 08-17-2012
    michael lambert
    Too Big (Fat) but Determined!!!
    Hey guys,

    So long story as short as i can make it, 34 years old 5'10 and back in March i was 410 pounds!!! Due to health issues my doctor demanded i get off my lazy butt and do something about my health or he was just going to stop seeing me. Married with three kids i agreed!

    Decided back in March i wanted to ride, simple low impact exercise i can do.. atleast think i can :D.. So i bought a bike.. talked to the bike shop and we decided on a KHS Aguila.. In my budget, some quality parts.. however due to the weight i can not use the front fork.. Just sitting on the bike fully compresses the fork.. So I bought the bike knowing i would be riding it ridged with no suspension..

    So rode it around town a bit, got bored of that found out we have some local trails so the shop owner took me out several times now and having a blast... But I really really really need to get more cardio and riding around here in ontario has limited warm and dry riding times.. and i am not exactly stable on the bike so riding in the wet and slippery trails is not something i choose to do just yet..

    So 5 months later, i am down to 365 pounds.. getting better on the bike but still not the greatest and trying to find time to get more time on the bike and increase my cardio.. So i have been looking at buying a trainer for it.. With a spare rim and training tire.. So the days i want to ride i can just jump on it and go.. I have been doing the gym and tired of waiting for a stationary bike to come free and when they do it just does not feel or ride the same.

    My questions is, I can't find weight limits for the trainers.. I am looking at buying a cycleops Fluid 2 trainer, read some where that they have been tested to like 300 pounds.. So i think if i ride it with caution ( Sitting down ) then it should not be an issue.

    So questions.. And yes i have been told at the trail "Some people should just stay home and ride the couch" so if you feel that way by all means move along..

    1) Will i have issues with the trainer??

    2) Anyone care to share suggestions one what targets ( Heart rate? ) i should be aiming for to burn fat... while i have lost weight i have lost most of it on my legs, i have nice looking legs and calfs (So my wife says) but i have not lost in the upper body.

    3) Anyone know where i can find a 6 or a 7XL cycing shirt.. lol I found a 5XL at Love2Pedal which i wear 5XL T-Shirts and they are slightly baggy so i figured a 5XL cycling shirt would be snug but work out.. As wearing regular shits they get heavy when wet, catch on trees easy and don't breath soo well.. however the 5XL cycling shirt was like trying to squeese into a 3XL tshirt for me :(

    Anyways, When i get my 10 post i will post up a video of my local ride.
  • 08-17-2012
    michael lambert
    Here is some video of my first real ride, Took a lot of bumps, fell a few times really winded most of the ride.. but was determined to complete the course.. they do wed night races and the average racer was doing the course in 12 minutes.. it took me almost 45 mins :D


    First real ride.
  • 08-17-2012
    Sickmak90
    No advice on the trainer, but keep at it. Really any sort of exercise will help you tremendously. Just staying active, even just walking, will help. The weight will continue to shed off and your cardio will get way better.

    I used to be very heavy as a young teen and around the age of 14 I decided to do something about it. Rollerblading was my saving grace. Now I'm 5' 9" and 175lbs. Once you get there it's super easy to stay.
  • 08-18-2012
    PixieChik
    Great work on the massive weight loss! People who make comments like that to you at the trailhead ought to be sent to their rooms for a time-out. Shame on them.

    I find that cutting down on carbs like bread and soda has helped me lose weight around the middle. (I'm a work in progress, down 17# with 24 to go.). You might check out the Mark's Daily Apple website for more info.

    Check the Clydesdale forum here for clothing and trainer suggestions. Lots of cool, knowledgable big guys post there.

    Welcome, and keep up the good work. It just gets more and more fun to ride as you get better at it and gain more cardio. I am nowhere near where I want to be skill- or fitness-wise, but I have a blast every stinking time I get on my bike.
  • 08-18-2012
    DavyRay
    You know, Michael, that you are in rare territory with gadgets like trainers. It is good to read the specs, but you will just have to experiment a bit. I'm sure that is not new to you, though.

    The clothing is important. I don't own a bike jersey. I do buy polyester, dry-wicking t-shirts for all outdoor activities. Under Armor is good stuff. In the US, Sports Authority has a good selection, and the stores can probably order your size. In Canada, I don't know the stores. My wife sometimes finds sports tees for me from Wally World with dry-wicking tags.

    The bike jerseys are mostly made in Europe for skinny people. Their XL is barely a L in North American sizes.
  • 08-18-2012
    Eric Z
    Keep at it, man! Screw those guys who made those comments at the trail- they obviously weren't hugged enough by their moms.

    I know nothing about trainers but just wanted to stress it's as important on what you put into your body as it is the activity you do. I'm sure you already know that with the success you've already have getting in better shape.

    I second the Clydesdale forum- great group of guys who can encourage and educate quite well. Please keep us updated.
    ez
  • 08-18-2012
    michael lambert
    Thanks guys,

    Over the years i have grown a thick skin and learned to tollerate most.. so i tend to just ignore the negitives and try and focus on the positives..

    I have found a great shop here in town who is doing alot ot help me, working with my diet as that has always been one hard thing eating to lose weight but also trying to eat enough to get in a ride is not always easy.. atleast for me. but working on it..

    This is the other set of trails by our home..
    KingCity Trails - YouTube

    Two weeks after i got the bike I was riding on the road, usually later in the evenings due to work so 8-9pm before it got dark but had a really good light, rear flasher and reflective shirt for riding yet i still got clipped by a car throwing me of my bike and the guy told the cops " I could not safely pass him with out taging him as he was such a wide object and with oncoming cars i accidently hit him".. and then was pissed he got a ticket and demerit points for wreckless driving causing harm.

    So after that i have moved to the trails... I do get lots of bumps, scraps and cuts from falling but so far safer than taking on real cars. lol
  • 08-18-2012
    Tone's
    All im gonna say is well done brother, keep it up mate, cheers
  • 08-18-2012
    joshhan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    Two weeks after i got the bike I was riding on the road, usually later in the evenings due to work so 8-9pm before it got dark but had a really good light, rear flasher and reflective shirt for riding yet i still got clipped by a car throwing me of my bike and the guy told the cops " I could not safely pass him with out taging him as he was such a wide object and with oncoming cars i accidently hit him".. and then was pissed he got a ticket and demerit points for wreckless driving causing harm.

    Wait, he saw you, knew he had to pass safely, and still hit you?

    And he's made he's getting a ticket? WTF is wrong with people today? :madman:
  • 08-18-2012
    Sandrenseren
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    And yes i have been told at the trail "Some people should just stay home and ride the couch" so if you feel that way by all means move along..

    The answer to that is "Sure, I might be big but every time I ride I lose a bit of weight and will eventually end up slim. How many rides do you have to do before you stop being an arrogant prick?"

    Nice work on your current results, keep it up. I'm down from 300 to 250 at the moment, aiming for around 200 lbs.

    When it comes to heart rate zones I don't care much for all those theoretical rules of thumb. For me the important number is when I switch to running oxygen starved.

    Find a long, not too steep hill, pick a decent gear and start spinning at a cadence you feel comfortable with while keeping an eye on the heart rate. Your heart rate should be steadily increasing and at some point you will feel your legs start burning, that's a sign that your system can no longer pump enough oxygen to keep up with the energy spent. For me that happens around 160 beats per minute, but it's highly individual. Do a couple of climbs and you'll eventually get a feel for what your number is.

    The crazy thing is, when it comes to burning fat the intensity of your workout has very little to say. Tests on road bikes show that riding 15 mph or 20 mph gives almost exactly the same amount of calories spend per mile, in short it's must better to ride 20 miles at 15 mph than 15 miles at 20 mph, from a pure energy burning perspective.

    With that in mind your first aim should be to build up ride distance. I started out with a couple of miles, then added 100-150 yards every time out, eventually ending up with my current 15 mile training distance.

    In order to ride further and further I kept an eye on my heart rate and tried to keep below those 160 bpm I found out to be my threshold. If my heart rate started to reach 160 I would slow down and pick an easier gear. If you can't keep your heart rate in control you're going too fast. I kid you not, at one point I was outrun by a butterfly, it flew in front of me while I was slowly crawling up a hill in "granny gear", stayed with me for a while, then got bored and flew ahead. I made a real effort not to exceed those 160 on the climbs, going slow as hell when that was what it took.

    Once I reached my goal of a 15 mile loop I started ignoring my heart rate on some of the climbs, letting it go higher than 160. Generally I started pushing for speed, going faster on the last mile, going faster on the last 1.5 mile, going faster on the last 2 miles and so on, gradually shaving time of my personal record at the end of the ride where I knew I could always limp home if I pushed too hard.

    First time I managed to do my 15 mile loop it took almost 2 hours. These days I do it in 1 hour 15 minutes. I slowly build up the distance in small steps until I reached 15 miles, then slowly build up the speed on those 15 miles each time out.

    To recap, practice going slow enough to keep your heart rate below the threshold. If it gets too high, you're going too fast. It's okay to do short sprints up small hills from time to time, but keep your focus on building distance for starters. Once you have an acceptable distance, start adding speed, training your muscles to work oxygen starved from time to time.
  • 08-18-2012
    Sickmak90
    If burning legs is a sign your heart can't keep up I should be dead. I'm really bad about grinding it out while my chest and legs are on fire. Lol.
  • 08-18-2012
    beanbag
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    2) Anyone care to share suggestions one what targets ( Heart rate? ) i should be aiming for to burn fat... while i have lost weight i have lost most of it on my legs, i have nice looking legs and calfs (So my wife says) but i have not lost in the upper body.

    The higher the heart rate, the more the body burns carbs instead of fat.
    I would suggest longer, slower rides for fat burning, and an occasional sprint for strength and fitness.

    Back when I was losing weight, it seemed that diet made the biggest difference, and exercise not so much.
  • 08-18-2012
    michael lambert
    My rides are not crazy, I tend to do 5-6km and am pretty dead.... Its the cardio that i have the issues with, I climb some of the smaller technical hills faster and some hills that guys i ride with who ride 30-40km rides can't.. i do have big strong legs and thats great, but when i get to the top of the smaller hill im dead and totally winded!.. So the cardio is something i am working on. One of the main reasons for looking to grab a trainer so i can plop down infront of a movie watch my watch and maintain a nice steady easy heart rate..

    The first time i rode a real trail that first video there i actually had to turn my heart rate monitor off as it was going nuts hitting 220 and the computer did not like that.

    As for the car hitting me yes, He seen me... lots of traffic coming from the other direction and got tired of waiting behind me... and I was on a uphill so did not want to stop as it would that much harder to get going again.. He tried to squeeze by but what got me was i was tight on the curb already which had a guard rail.. and he hit me with his mirror in my lower back and actually pushed me a few feet before my front handle bar spun on me and i went over.. and the guy behind him said that he had plenty of space he could have moved over 3-4 feet to go around me and still have lots of room with on coming traffic..
  • 08-18-2012
    broadwayline
    Dude honestly, I'm 24 and just want to give you mad props on getting motivated and doing something about the weight.

    If I saw you on the trails I would give you a big high 5 for ripping.

    I suggest that you get a heart rate monitor, that will let you see what HR zone your heart is in, and you want to be in zone 3 upper - 4lower for most efficient fat burning which surprisingly isn't full out heart racing riding, its steady brisk riding where you can still talk sentence at a time.

    Not sure if you meant Ontario Canada, but if it is I would see if you live near any rail trails like the Caledon Trailway etc - where you can ride a flatter gravel trail for longer distances and keep your HR in a set zone easier.
  • 08-18-2012
    michael lambert
    yes its ontario canada... I am not far from Caledon.. I actually live just south of Barrie Ontario.. We do have plenty of easier surfaces to ride on even the local trails like coulsons hill i have riden the top part not going down into the ravine area and i can ride 3-4km of trail that is pretty much all flat with little elevations..
  • 08-18-2012
    DavyRay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    My rides are not crazy, I tend to do 5-6km and am pretty dead.... Its the cardio that i have the issues with, I climb some of the smaller technical hills faster and some hills that guys i ride with who ride 30-40km rides can't.. i do have big strong legs and thats great, but when i get to the top of the smaller hill im dead and totally winded!.. So the cardio is something i am working on. One of the main reasons for looking to grab a trainer so i can plop down infront of a movie watch my watch and maintain a nice steady easy heart rate..

    The first time i rode a real trail that first video there i actually had to turn my heart rate monitor off as it was going nuts hitting 220 and the computer did not like that.

    As for the car hitting me yes, He seen me... lots of traffic coming from the other direction and got tired of waiting behind me... and I was on a uphill so did not want to stop as it would that much harder to get going again.. He tried to squeeze by but what got me was i was tight on the curb already which had a guard rail.. and he hit me with his mirror in my lower back and actually pushed me a few feet before my front handle bar spun on me and i went over.. and the guy behind him said that he had plenty of space he could have moved over 3-4 feet to go around me and still have lots of room with on coming traffic..

    There are times when it is necessary to confront bullies. This is one of them. Let this man know that you know where he lives, and that he put your life and health at risk.
  • 08-18-2012
    michael lambert
    The good thing is the bike is holding up.. When i bought it the bike shop did show concerns with my weight and the rims.. Seems in MTB its not uncommon to fold a rim and when your 3 times the avereage weight trying to do stuff that the avereage do the folding of rims would happen more often..

    I gotta say, i have never damaged a rim.. I have fallen off the bridges a couple of times and bent the derailer a few times.

    The only thing i have damaged and damaged a couple of times is since getting the bike i have had to replaced the Seat three times.. My weight with the bouncing motion over the roots and rocks the seat rails take a beating and end up bend in a way that the seat is no longer comfortable.. but i really don't mind spending $20-30 every couple of months on a new seat.. and call it a simple investment :D
  • 08-18-2012
    Acerty
    I must say, you my friend should be the poster child for cycling for health. I can't say enough how awesome and inspiring it is to see stories of people getting up and doing something to shed that kind of weight. I'm 6'2 at ~230 myself and can't keep to a better diet to save my life, so yeah.

    Anyway, I must second the idea of rail to trail riding. If you have a bike rack and are willing to travel I don't think you'll much better trails as far as near steady grades are concerned. Plus the scenery is usually just as good as riding single track. Keep at it and g'luck bro
  • 08-18-2012
    progfan1
    Michael,

    I'm just echoing many here, but I salute you. If I lived near you, I'd ride with you. You are an inspiration. Keep it up and never give up! God bless you, man.
  • 08-18-2012
    michael lambert
    I thank you guys for the positive comments.

    I do feel bad when i do ride with the guys i do, these would be guys i guess like many here who race weekly, and tend to 25-30K rides as a leasurly workout. Yet they jump on there bikes with me.. Do my 5Km in 45 mins some times i seems like they are riding backwards while Im going full out.. lol

    But i guess they don't mind they keep coming out with me, and hopefully one day i can return the favor and haul around the track with them!
  • 08-18-2012
    OP4guy
    You sir, are a true inspiration. Keep up the great work and keep us posted. Positive attitude and hard work will help you reach your goals.
  • 08-18-2012
    Bill in Houston
    Go easy on the trainer and it ought to be okay. don't lean back and forth too much, don't stand up, be careful getting on and off, etc.

    I am impressed and I wish you all the best.
  • 08-18-2012
    Danielrg_usa
    Throw a little bit of weight training in on the days you don't ride. Low weight high reps for some muscle tone. Focuse on slow movement and weight control. Muscle burns fat! Like Beanbag said diet plays a huge role. I lost 15 lbs inless than a month just by changing the way I eat. Lots of fruits and veggies but don't forget protiens. A personal trainer told me once that if your not eating right or doing weight training with your cardio you will actually burn muscle instead of fat. Anywho, keep up the good work. Get the family involved too. It will make for great bonding time with your kids!
  • 08-19-2012
    Sandrenseren
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sickmak90 View Post
    If burning legs is a sign your heart can't keep up I should be dead. I'm really bad about grinding it out while my chest and legs are on fire. Lol.

    Hehe, I know that feeling.

    Thing is, running oxygen starved really cuts down on how far you're able to ride.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    My rides are not crazy, I tend to do 5-6km and am pretty dead.... Its the cardio that i have the issues with, I climb some of the smaller technical hills faster and some hills that guys i ride with who ride 30-40km rides can't.. i do have big strong legs and thats great, but when i get to the top of the smaller hill im dead and totally winded!..

    Try going slower up those hills. Pick a nice, low gear and just spin up at a comfortable pace. Going slow and "easy" allows you to expand on those 5-6km and that's where your aim should be at the moment. Your cardio will improve as you add distance, so add a tiny bit of extra distance each time out and in a couple of months your cardio will allow you to ride three times the distance.

    Focus solely on building up distance for the time being, even if that means climbing hills at a snails pace. Small increments in distance each time out. If you ride too fast you'll bonk out and not be able to increase the distance.

    I just took a look at my ride log. When I started riding last summer I hadn't done any kind of exercising in 20 years, I was so out of shape it was hard to believe. On July 10th 2011 I was completely spent doing a 5.6km ride. By the end of August 2011, 30 rides later, I was doing 22 km rides without too much trouble. I was slow as hell, but my cardio had gone up from allowing me 5 km and 30 minutes to allowing me to do 22 km and close to two hours in the saddle. All from just going slow enough and adding a bit of distance each time out.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    So the cardio is something i am working on. One of the main reasons for looking to grab a trainer so i can plop down infront of a movie watch my watch and maintain a nice steady easy heart rate..

    Good idea.
  • 08-19-2012
    yamaharider529
    Keep up the good work Michael! Loosing weight is defintely not an easy thing, I also know from experience. I was 305 lbs two years ago at the age of 20. Got made fun of my whole like through school, bunch of pricks! Decided it was time to do something too, I lost a 110 lbs in one year with dieting and running 3 miles a day. I just had surgery 3 weeks ago and rewarded myself with a tummy tuck to get rid of all the excess skin and fat. Also another thing that might help you that helped me was jump rope, running/walking, motocross, and biking. Hang in there man, your doing great, alot of people complain about losing 10 lbs, your defintely on your way and losing it the right way! :thumbsup:
  • 08-19-2012
    desertred
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by progfan1 View Post
    Michael,

    I'm just echoing many here, but I salute you. If I lived near you, I'd ride with you. You are an inspiration. Keep it up and never give up! God bless you, man.

    +1! And props to your LBS for getting out on the trail with you to get you started. Keep it up. Your ability, skills, and endurance will only continue to improve. Time for me to get out from in front of tis computer and get active!
  • 08-19-2012
    Lawson Raider
    Congratulations and I encourage you to stay with it. You'll drop the weight and also work up endurance over time as you get into shape.
  • 08-19-2012
    SpAgetttt
    You should ride carbohydrate starved so that you have to use fats to produce energy. Avoid eating starchy foods the night before you ride. Reduce some of the glycogen stored in your muscles and liver. Consume some simple carbs right before the ride to get a small blood sugar spike to provide some energy, then as that depletes, fat metabolism will kick in.
  • 08-19-2012
    Treebumper
    Mr Lambert, You are an inspiration.
    Whomever it was that said that you belonged on a couch obviously didn't put too much thought into what they were saying. Congratulations for taking on something that most people just complain about.
    Your local bike shop sounds awesome, I can't imagine some kid at Walmart offering to take you on the local rides.
    Adam
  • 08-20-2012
    joeinchi
    Nice job!

    Lots of good advice. I'll second the weight/resistance training recommendation. Start with one set--to exhaustion--of various exercises, i.e. push ups, curls, squats, dead lifts. Even if you only do a 15-minute workout, it always gets easier if you stick with it.

    As for the trainer/heart rate monitor workout, I do that during the cold Chicago winters. It's super convenient and great for monitoring progress, calories burned, etc. I use the system employed by Mark Allen, 5-time Ironman World Champion, to build endurance: Target BPM = 180 - age
    HRM Training Article

    Training at 146 bpm (based on your age) is doable for extended periods and prevents you from overtraining. And at the right bpm, you'll be surprised at how quickly your endurance improves. Whether on the trainer or on a ride, you'll find yourself going faster/harder just to get your rate up to the target level.

    It's a little tricky to get a trainer to replicate hill climbing, though. You can shift to the big ring and do intervals of intense spinning but it's just not the same (maybe others have had more success). That's where squats and lunges come in--with good form.

    Keep at it! Getting started was the hard part. As your cardio and strength improve, you'll eventually be able to push harder and longer. It takes time but your patience and commitment will be rewarded.
  • 08-20-2012
    AndrwSwitch
    Congratulations on the progress you've made so far.

    I wouldn't worry so much about heart rate zones. Whether you're at a very slow pace or at redline, you're still burning calories. There's some argument for high-intensity intervals for weight loss because your heart is going to take some time to slow down again, after clearing your muscles. The big reason for long, steady distance (not long, slow distance) as a base training method is that it lets you get more volume than if you hit redline a lot and can't do as long a ride, or have to take more days off. So don't ignore heart rate zones either if you find them a useful way to pace yourself. Just don't worry too much if now and then you end up in a higher zone climbing a hill or something. For heart rate zones, while there are certainly formulas around that you can use to guesstimate it, if you're going to use them, you're probably better off finding out what yours actually are. A lot of cycle training books have test protocols in them. Or you can go to a training center and have someone take you through a test protocol. TBH, I haven't bothered. I don't use a HRM.

    A trainer's a good idea. Cycle Ops is well-regarded and fluid trainers are about the best type going, especially when they're from a solid brand. They're built quite heavily. If anything, I'd be worried about the quick release skewer on the bike - that's how this type of trainer grasps the bike. It's about a $15 part if you bend one. So at worst, you'll find you just can't use the trainer yet. Get a fan! A big one.

    I don't know how long your 3 km take you. I do most of my training with time. I'd start with working up to rides of over half an hour before worrying about intensity. You might already be there, especially with hilly singletrack. Base training is generally seen as the type of training for weight loss - another name for long, slow distance - and this is all about working up in volume. Although if you're making progress, you might be fine to stick with your current volume. It's really all about how much time you want to spend on your bike every week.
  • 08-20-2012
    DrNickels
    I have to say man I'm proud of you! Losing weight is never easy! Ignore all the idiots who put you down. We all weren't born with a super fast metabolism! The main thing is eat a diet with about 50% protein and %50 carbs and fats. Get a calorie tracking app (my fitness pal for iPhone is awesome). You can place your goal weight in and current weight and it will tell you the amount of calories to eat. As others have said weight training on off days is a great way to build muscle burn fat and increase your metabolism. Do you have an indoor pool available to you? Swimming is a great total body workout to help you shed total body fat and boost your cardio abilities.

    The main thing is don't get discouraged. The weight will come off. I just started 2 months ago with limiting caloric intake to 1700 and doing light weight training and trail biking. I'm down from 325 to 286 so far.
  • 08-20-2012
    millargeo
    Great job! Let me give you a preview of the future. I'm 36, 5'10" and a little over year ago I weighed 394 pounds. I lost some weight and bought the same bike you have when I hit 310 pounds. (I recently had to throw out the stock KHS seat because I bent the rails at 270 pounds.) I'm down to 256 today, and still losing, and spent 4 hours on singletrack this weekend. When I bought the bike I hadn't ridden one in 15 years. Keep pedaling, and you'll be using that suspension fork soon, and clearing plenty of the stuff that you're walking now.

    Good work. It gets easier.
  • 08-20-2012
    scribble79
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joeinchi View Post
    Nice job!

    Lots of good advice. I'll second the weight/resistance training recommendation. Start with one set--to exhaustion--of various exercises, i.e. push ups, curls, squats, dead lifts. Even if you only do a 15-minute workout, it always gets easier if you stick with it.

    As for the trainer/heart rate monitor workout, I do that during the cold Chicago winters. It's super convenient and great for monitoring progress, calories burned, etc. I use the system employed by Mark Allen, 5-time Ironman World Champion, to build endurance: Target BPM = 180 - age
    HRM Training Article

    Training at 146 bpm (based on your age) is doable for extended periods and prevents you from overtraining. And at the right bpm, you'll be surprised at how quickly your endurance improves. Whether on the trainer or on a ride, you'll find yourself going faster/harder just to get your rate up to the target level.

    It's a little tricky to get a trainer to replicate hill climbing, though. You can shift to the big ring and do intervals of intense spinning but it's just not the same (maybe others have had more success). That's where squats and lunges come in--with good form.

    Keep at it! Getting started was the hard part. As your cardio and strength improve, you'll eventually be able to push harder and longer. It takes time but your patience and commitment will be rewarded.

    Joe any exercises you could recommend for someone who doesn't have gym or trainer access?
  • 08-20-2012
    joeinchi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scribble79 View Post
    Joe any exercises you could recommend for someone who doesn't have gym or trainer access?

    Sure. A set of dumbbells (maybe the adjustable weight type) would be a worthwhile investment. They allow you to do a variety of "push and pull" exercises for the same muscle group which prevents muscular imbalance, e.g. huge biceps, small triceps But here's an idea of what a full-body workut might look like:

    - Pushups
    - Barbell Rows (either bending over 90 degrees at the waist with a dumbbell in each hand or with one side elevated on a bench--knee and hand--working one side at a time)

    - Bicep Curls
    - Tricep Extensions (lying on the floor, hold dumbbells straight up from should and then bend arms 90 degrees back towards the sides of your head and then back up)

    - Squat Jumps (keep your weight on your heels, push your butt back until quads are parallel to the floor, back straight with hands clasped behind your head and shoot up and get some air. 10 is hard)
    - Dumbbell Squats (same as above without the jump)
    - Lunges With Barbells (again, keep the weight on your heels, don't let your knees hover past your toes, step forward, bend until your thigh is parallel to the floor and then step back)

    - Deadlift (be careful that you don't try to do too much weight use proper form)

    - V Ups (on your back, both legs in the air as close to vertical as possible, shoulders on the floor and then reach up to touch your toes. 20 is hard)
    - Oblique Cruch (knees up and bent 90 degrees, ankles overlapping, hands behind your head--now try to touch your elbows to the opposite knee diagonally)
    - Leg Downs (like a leg lift but the emphasis is to bring your legs down forcefully and then prevent them from touching the floor. Hands with palms down under your lower back/hips for support)

    I would certainly recommend you check out YouTube or other training videos to ensure you're using good form. Also search "body weight training" if you don't have much room or equipment. There are lots of ways to work out at home without much equipment but make sure you always use good form to prevent injury and maximize results.

    Also, mtb'ing can be a pretty rigorous sport, so the extra upper body and core strength definitely helps to limit fatigue and injury.
  • 08-20-2012
    Dundee85
    Can't give you any real help with your questions but just wanted to add my support! That's a lot of hard work and determination. People can be rude so I admire you for your ability to shrug it off and keep at it. You, your wife and your kids will all benefit from your decision to make the change.
  • 08-20-2012
    joeinchi
    Heads up. All CycleOps trainers will be on sale at REI starting this Friday, 8/24. If you're not familiar, their fluid trainers are considered among the best (along with Kurt Kinetic products). Of course, like all quality products, it commands a premium price and is rarely offered on sale.

    REI's everyday price for the CycleOps Fluid2 is $329.00 but will drop to $246.75 starting Friday ... roughly an $80 savings. Sale runs through Labor Day, 9/3.

    CycleOps Fluid 2 Bike Trainer at REI.com
  • 08-20-2012
    mk.ultra


    fasting has been practiced for centuries. juice fasting is fast, safe, and EASY when performed correctly. once you make it past day 3 you just coast, losing about 1 lb per day. your entire system clears out and it feels amazing.

    i did a 22 day juice fast a couple summers ago and lost 20 lbs. I would've gone longer but I never really needed to lose weight in the first place, i just wanted to detox. after the fast I felt rejuvenated inside and out, and my sense of smell increased tenfold.

    just something to look into.
  • 08-20-2012
    OscarW
    Kudos to you Michael for doing the right thing for you and your family and don't let those naysayers get you down. F' them.
    Plenty of good advice here already, all you need to do is stick with what works for you. Good luck!!
  • 08-21-2012
    michael lambert
    THanks guys,

    Someone asked about how long my 3Km takes me.. depends on what trail.. locally on our trail coulsons hill we have lots of climbs and the 3-4KM ride will take me about 30 mins, on our other trail king trils they have a 1km pretty flat loop.. and i can now do 6-8km in about 45 mins

    not looking to go crazy, but trying to get on the right path.. i do have a number of issues that have also pushed me into this direction, I am a Insulin type2 diabetic, Suffer from Gout, hypertension and Isthmic spondylolisthesis which is why i picked up biking i can do it pretty low impact but really feel the rougher trails. lol but its fun.. just dealing with the numbness that happens some times is hard..

    As for the walmart comment, its funny my wife and i went to walmart first.. They had a nice looking full suspension bike selling for $699.. so the guy pulled it down and i told him i was worried about the build.. he said jumped on it.. so i got on it and hopped twice on the pedals and snapped the crack case splitted the bike in half... i was shocked and he claimed it was a manufacture defect.. so i laughed and said okay pull down the other one nad i will check.. lol needless to say he would not..

    So i found the "Real" Bike shop in town and again did not want to break the bank and the bike he recommended was the one i bought and kind of felt cheated being i paid $950 for it and it seemed to have no of the cool stuff like the walmart bike did.. lol but he assured me i was buying quality components which now i can see.. so my concer was the build so he took on that was in stock but too small for me and i got on it and jumped like crazy twisted and everything no give at all.. aside from the fact i knew i would have to lock out the front fork for now.
  • 08-21-2012
    having fun
    Hey mike it's me Holly!
    You are awesome!
    Keep on inspiring yourself to keep on going!

    I still want to seek out and destroy that couch riding jerk. Totally if someone had said that to me when I was new I would have maybe given up. You are strong!

    And p.s the King main trail (I think it's around 5k) used to take me over an hour for one loop.
  • 08-22-2012
    danpluso
    Good job mate! I have been losing weight myself. I went from 265 to 230 in about 3 months. My favorite thing isn't dropping pants sizes or looking thinner but the increase in energy. It is crazy how much more stamina I have. Still have a ways to go before I hit my goal but so far the progress has been great :D
    My diet has been the biggest factor in my weight lose. I've actually been pretty bad with physical exercise lately but that should change soon once I get my new bike.
  • 08-22-2012
    swampboy62
    Congratulation on getting on track to a healthier life. You're lucky you found an exercise that you enjoy - I believe this is truly key to regular exercise.

    Also, good on the weight loss. Your local trails look great for someone in your situation - not too tough, but not too easy. Keep on the trails as much as you can.

    I'm not too fond of riding in traffic, so I try to keep on dirt or rail trails. Riding around town does happen occasionally, but I keep to the suburban residentail roads, not any main roads.

    As for group rides... I've been riding for over 5 years, but deal with a respiratory issue that will always be a problem. So I'm slow. Instead of riding alone all the time, I started posting up "Slow Guys" rides on the local mtb forum. There are lots of riders out there who can't keep up with the fast riders - no reason they should have to ride solo all the time. We've had some pretty nice rides, and I've met some good people.

    Keep up the good work.

    Steve Z
  • 08-22-2012
    mrenteria342
    i dont know anything about the trainers, your original question. but keep up the good work, keep at it ! in time you will cut down that upper body fat. keep riding watch what you eat, and count your calories. get a plan started and shoot for the moon, dont get discouraged it takes time and motivation ! once a week i watch this video, it keeps me going !

    i weighed in at 320 pounds last yr, this yr this morning im at 269. but i ride, i work out 5-6 days aweek and when i ride i push 10 miles road and or trail. keep at great job !
  • 08-22-2012
    midnightlost
    Just wanted to say: Keep up the great work on it Michael, and don't let none of the asinine people out there get you down, including the idiots driving.
  • 08-22-2012
    deke505
    first keep up the good work. As for the trainers, if you are worried about the max weight try putting some 2x4s under the bottom bracket to help the trainer support the bike.

    If you want some nice trails to try come west to Burlington or Hamilton. There are several trails to try as well.
  • 08-22-2012
    AndrwSwitch
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    THanks guys,

    Someone asked about how long my 3Km takes me.. depends on what trail.. locally on our trail coulsons hill we have lots of climbs and the 3-4KM ride will take me about 30 mins, on our other trail king trils they have a 1km pretty flat loop.. and i can now do 6-8km in about 45 mins

    For me, it's hard to do a good speed workout in less than an hour. It takes some time to warm up, and I often do them at least a few minutes' ride away from where I live.

    When you get to rides of an hour, start mixing up your workouts some more. Emphasize intensity in one or two of them. Keep pushing the volume on one or two of them. Variety is good.
  • 08-22-2012
    HelgenX
    I'm glad you lost that much weight on in the first 5 months! I need to lose some myself!
  • 08-22-2012
    Spatialized
    Strong work sir! I work in healthcare and have seen so many that could have done what you are doing but never did and the outcomes were never pleasant. Keep up the good work and keep the rubber-side down.
  • 08-22-2012
    Steelfalcon
    Michael, great job on both trying to improve your health as well as starting to ride! Mountain biking is an amazing niche sport and it will enrich your life for years. I myself am an overweight rider. I weigh about 270 and really wish I could get down to 200. Three problem is I love my food, LOL. I've been riding for about 12 years now, and I still love the look on skinny riders when I pass them on the uphills and downhills...

    If i could offer you some advice, though, it would be this: my wife recently dropped about 120 lbs eating the paleo diet. Its a diet that advocates healthy unprocessed foods and heavily restricts carbs, you can google it and find out all about it. Basically, from what I understand, your body is made up of 80% nutrition and 20% exercise. Changing your nutrition has much more of an impact than the exercise you do, so a more casual approach to exercise might be easier as long as you can change your eating habits. I just recommend to enjoy your rides and try to find riding buddies to make it more fun. You'll naturally want to exercise when you have fun at it...

    Good luck to you! If you're ever in Socal and you need a riding buddy msg me, no problem.
  • 08-23-2012
    panajotov
    Great work, keep up, you're doing great!
  • 08-23-2012
    TheSlowDude
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    Hey guys,

    So long story as short as i can make it, 34 years old 5'10 and back in March i was 410 pounds!!! Due to health issues my doctor demanded i get off my lazy butt and do something about my health or he was just going to stop seeing me. Married with three kids i agreed!

    Decided back in March i wanted to ride, simple low impact exercise i can do.. atleast think i can :D.. So i bought a bike.. talked to the bike shop and we decided on a KHS Aguila.. In my budget, some quality parts.. however due to the weight i can not use the front fork.. Just sitting on the bike fully compresses the fork.. So I bought the bike knowing i would be riding it ridged with no suspension..

    So rode it around town a bit, got bored of that found out we have some local trails so the shop owner took me out several times now and having a blast... But I really really really need to get more cardio and riding around here in ontario has limited warm and dry riding times.. and i am not exactly stable on the bike so riding in the wet and slippery trails is not something i choose to do just yet..

    So 5 months later, i am down to 365 pounds.. getting better on the bike but still not the greatest and trying to find time to get more time on the bike and increase my cardio.. So i have been looking at buying a trainer for it.. With a spare rim and training tire.. So the days i want to ride i can just jump on it and go.. I have been doing the gym and tired of waiting for a stationary bike to come free and when they do it just does not feel or ride the same.

    My questions is, I can't find weight limits for the trainers.. I am looking at buying a cycleops Fluid 2 trainer, read some where that they have been tested to like 300 pounds.. So i think if i ride it with caution ( Sitting down ) then it should not be an issue.

    So questions.. And yes i have been told at the trail "Some people should just stay home and ride the couch" so if you feel that way by all means move along..

    1) Will i have issues with the trainer??

    2) Anyone care to share suggestions one what targets ( Heart rate? ) i should be aiming for to burn fat... while i have lost weight i have lost most of it on my legs, i have nice looking legs and calfs (So my wife says) but i have not lost in the upper body.

    3) Anyone know where i can find a 6 or a 7XL cycing shirt.. lol I found a 5XL at Love2Pedal which i wear 5XL T-Shirts and they are slightly baggy so i figured a 5XL cycling shirt would be snug but work out.. As wearing regular shits they get heavy when wet, catch on trees easy and don't breath soo well.. however the 5XL cycling shirt was like trying to squeese into a 3XL tshirt for me :(

    Anyways, When i get my 10 post i will post up a video of my local ride.

    I was in a simlar boat to you man, same age. Remember you will burn way more calories than someone 150lbs... that always made me feel better about almost killing myself on a bike out there. I found that I had personal heart rate zones that were pretty consistant even as my fitness and weight came off. Up to 150 bpm was just annoying, 160 was seriously the worst zone for me and always made me want to stop, 170 got really easy, 180 was my sweet spot and was hard enough I couldn't sit in it very long, 190 was just past the point I thought I was going to puke, 200+ is where I started to get light headed mainly due to not having the lungs for hard riding, and anything 30 seconds or more at 210 would take an hour or two to recover from... my system just hated it.

    For clothes, a friend of mine gave me a pair of "liners" that have a crotch cushion in them that were too big for him, and I wear a pair of sweatpants that I cut off at the knee over them, and a normal t-shirt. The reason I went with just normal clothes is it makes it easier for me to just walk out the door and ride for 10 minutes... if I had to suit up all the time I'd never go riding... too much hastle. I wore some 5 year old trainer Nike tennis shoes that I'd had forever and they worked perfectly. I've recently picked up some FiveTens, but that was because my Nikes were falling apart.

    The first advise I ever got has been my mantra the whole time... "Just have fun". And that absolutely includes doing what needs to be done to make it easy to have fun. Just get out and spin. Dont worry about computers or gear or hitting that turn just right, just have fun, however and whereever that means to you. I'm on my way to having lost about 60 pounds so far, and last week I had to let some air out of my forks... that was a good feeling.
  • 08-23-2012
    wade-19
    Great thread. I am in the same boat. 40 years old and gained about 100 pounds with my 3 kids. Well, my wife had the kids, I got fat. This is very inspiring. I've tried the gym and work out DVDswith no success, in fact I gained 40lbs after I started working out. Definatley doing something wrong there. LOL. I think I see a bike in my future.
  • 08-24-2012
    JoePAz
    I don't have any really good advice for you. The only thing I can say is GREAT WORK and KEEP IT UP. For me it was 1998 when I started to use biking as method to lose weight. I only needed to lose about 40-50lbs, but all I can say is to stick with it.
  • 08-24-2012
    scorchedearth
    Good work Michael. Keep up the effort and you will see the difference in all other aspects of your life.
  • 08-24-2012
    monzie
    Been popping in on your thread occasionally and just wanted to say you're awesome. Inspiration isn't really a strong enough word for how much respect I have for you. Definitely keep up the great work and enjoy yourself out there.
  • 08-24-2012
    IamtheYeti
    Keep up the good work OP. No advice on the trainer but its good that you are doing something about your health. :thumbsup:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wade-19 View Post
    Great thread. I am in the same boat. 40 years old and gained about 100 pounds with my 3 kids. Well, my wife had the kids, I got fat. This is very inspiring. I've tried the gym and work out DVDswith no success, in fact I gained 40lbs after I started working out. Definatley doing something wrong there. LOL. I think I see a bike in my future.

    nutrition is a key component to getting healthy. Losing weight is great but you can be skinny and unhealthy as well. When trying to lose weight, you should definitely focus and calorie restriction and eating items that keep you full...items high in protein and fiber. If you have an Iphone a good app to keep on track is myfitnesspal. I use it constantly when I am either trying to bulk up or cut weight....making sure that I am hitting the calories I need with a balance of protein, carbs and fat.
  • 08-25-2012
    tigris99
    I cant give to much advise at this point, but Im right here with you. Last winterI weighed 360lbs at 6'2" 30 yrs old. Im not doing as well as you at shedding the weight but I just got back into riding a couple months ago for the same reason, GET HEALTHY!!! So far down to 318lbs now. And thnx for being brave enough to post all this here, gave me more determination knowing though Im 1k miles away from you, Im not the only one out there thats too heavy for a bike but doesnt care cause we will be in shape and healthy soon enough, and can having fun doing it!!! THANKS MAN, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!
  • 08-25-2012
    mark!
    Awesome work man. I started at 464, now I'm down to about 375 right now and still plowing away. Riding has been a blessing and a blast with my 3 boys and wife. Nutrition is the most crucial component. I'm not sure how the insurance works up there, here my insurance covers medical treatment for obesity 80%. Once I started seeing a dietician and nutritionist, and having them re-enforce everything I already knew just never applied, things really turned around. I'm huge on keto diets and carb depletion, it's just worked for me and I always get the best blood work results after a keto run. People on the trail have all been awesome down here in Texas, but some people just don't get it, and hold themselves higher for whatever reason. You're doing a great job, keep it up man.
  • 08-27-2012
    NicoleB
    awesome work. as for losing weight in your legs, and not your stomach, theres a myth that you can "spot-lose" when it comes to fat. Yes, you can tone the muscles in certain areas, but fat is different. what i mean is, your body and genetics decide where to put on and lose fat. Just like with women, some are apple shaped, and some are pear shaped. A pear shaped women cannot transform herself into a top-heavy apple, and vice versa. Men tend to hold onto fat in the middle, so keep at it. your body will eventually start burning that belly fat :)
  • 08-27-2012
    NicoleB
    oh, and ps. Since getting into riding 4 years ago, i have lost 35 pounds. (from my highest wieght, to lowest weight. i do fluctuate a bit though). Biking helped, but diet was a bigger factor. The great thing about biking though, is i feel it helped maintain what i already did. You can earn yourself a dessert, or undo a dessert :D

    Good thing biking is fun! i could never do the treadmill thing.
  • 08-28-2012
    tigris99
    Ya same here, I grew up as a teenager riding and remembering how much I enjoyed it now. Whats gong to suck for me is when winter comes...... resistance stand for my bike maybe... lol.
  • 08-29-2012
    bob13bob
    Major props to the OP. If you decide to road again, check your local rules about just blocking the whole road. It's what I do on the road when cars can not safely pass. Keep riding
  • 08-30-2012
    chrisaz82
    Nice job! I went from 247 to 199lbs today mostly from biking. Just keep at it.. ride until it hurts .. keep some music with you and enjoy the ride!
  • 08-30-2012
    NicoleB
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bob13bob View Post
    Major props to the OP. If you decide to road again, check your local rules about just blocking the whole road. It's what I do on the road when cars can not safely pass. Keep riding

    hey, was that a fat joke?


    :p
  • 08-30-2012
    magohn
    Hello,

    Congrats on the weight loss! Awesome! I too am a 'clyde' at 270lbs (started at 320lbs in 2010) and went searching for a trainer last winter. See this thread for full details:

    Do I need a better indoor trainer ?

    but I was told in the thread that the cycleops is rated up to 1200lbs !

    I bought the cycleops and have not had an issue with it. It has an awesome 'quick - release' system and you can literally mount and dismount your bike in 30 seconds. Handy if you like to also ride the bike outside and need numerous mount/dismounts. No complicated mounting procedure.

    Keep the tires rolling - your doing great!
  • 08-30-2012
    ghglenn
    Hey Michael, good job. I too live up here in the great white north. The trainer is a great idea to keep you spinning through the winter. I also snowshoe some of the local trails, just to get outside, and keep my sanity. Might give it a try, it is just like walking, with huge feet, and you get a great low-impact workout. Keep at it buddy, keep chasing singletrack.
  • 08-30-2012
    Glide the Clyde
    I like this story! Props Michael.

    Don't know if you have the trainer yet but I think that is a great idea for your wet weather spinning. I think one should hold up okay. Never know until you try it.
  • 09-01-2012
    michael lambert
    Thanks guys!!!

    Got out today and did the biggest ride of my life so far and while it may not seem like much to most man i really really pushed to do it.. a few moments i had spaghetti legs, and on one of the bigger climbs i almost passed out from not being able to catch my breath.. but i had a freaking blast!!!!

    Bike Ride Profile | 2012-09-01 near Caledon | Times and Records | Strava
  • 09-01-2012
    Jaysop
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrisaz82 View Post
    Nice job! I went from 247 to 199lbs today mostly from biking. Just keep at it.. ride until it hurts .. keep some music with you and enjoy the ride!

    Dam dude that must of been a busy day! ;)
  • 09-02-2012
    bob13bob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NicoleB28 View Post
    hey, was that a fat joke?


    :p

    No, meant to say lane.

    sent from one of my 4 gold leafed iphone4s's
  • 09-02-2012
    Sandrenseren
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrisaz82 View Post
    I went from 247 to 199lbs today mostly from biking.

    Wow, that must have been one busy day! :D
  • 09-03-2012
    Mazukea
    Mike keep up the good work! If you ever make a trip to Hawaii you are more than welcomed to come and ride with the crew down here.:thumbsup:
  • 09-03-2012
    michael lambert
    These are a couple of local events that really got me hooked on riding, not just MTB but would love a road bike too :D

    The 24hour race locally
    Home | 2012 Summer Solstice 24hr MTB Race

    and then a ontario championship onroad race
    Home | Ontario Championship Race ..
  • 09-03-2012
    DavyRay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    These are a couple of local events that really got me hooked on riding, not just MTB but would love a road bike too :D

    The 24hour race locally
    Home | 2012 Summer Solstice 24hr MTB Race

    and then a ontario championship onroad race
    Home | Ontario Championship Race ..

    Michael,

    Since you are in the (sometimes) frozen north, have you considered a fatbike? If I lived where it snowed very much, I would have a Pugsley or a Mukluk. Just a thought to get you through the winter.
  • 09-03-2012
    michael lambert
    Davy,

    It was a consideration as i had seen one at the local trails.. however when speaking with the owner he did say that he would not suggest it for someone in my condition locally.. as we have alot of uneven ground around here lots of downhills and climbings and he did suggest be being unfit, over weight nad lacking any cardio at all the the bikes weight and agility would hinder me and cause me frustrations and possibly would end up giving up riding.. he suggested going with a 29er and so did the hsop so thats what i ended up with
  • 09-03-2012
    DavyRay
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    Davy,

    It was a consideration as i had seen one at the local trails.. however when speaking with the owner he did say that he would not suggest it for someone in my condition locally.. as we have alot of uneven ground around here lots of downhills and climbings and he did suggest be being unfit, over weight nad lacking any cardio at all the the bikes weight and agility would hinder me and cause me frustrations and possibly would end up giving up riding.. he suggested going with a 29er and so did the hsop so thats what i ended up with

    Well, he's a spoilsport.;)

    Your 29er is just fine. I do think you may try a Pugs in the future. You are making progress in the cardio realm. Heck, I did a new trail this weekend, and thought I sounded like a steam engine. I don't mind lying down in the poison ivy to rest once in a while.
  • 09-03-2012
    michael lambert
    yea but honesty... and it sucks and is pretty embarrassing to admit it.. i get winded just gear up for the ride ( changing shoes, pulling the bike down ect.. ) yes i know its sad!!!

    I rode recently with a friend who is larger but much better fit than i am and we rode the same trails.. at the end of the ride both our computers said we rode 10.4KM however my total ride time was 1 hour 20 mins and his was 45 mins.. same computer. I know for a fact he was riding up what he suggested where simple climbs using his big gears.. while i did the same climbs in the granny gear and needing to stop and walk often :(

    Im very embarassed to have let myself get to where i am physically..
  • 09-03-2012
    AndrwSwitch
    Completing a couple of races next year is a good goal. Especially the 24-hour race, especially if you do it as a part of a team. I did a 6-hour solo recently... very difficult day on a bike. Especially since the weather sucked and I blew up my drivetrain about halfway through the first lap. MTB endurance races have a really fun vibe, and they're a bit like a mullet - up front, where the fast guys are, it's all business. But there's a party at the back.

    The road race, I'm a bit less enthusiastic about. It's great that they added a sportif category, but if that's people who are already about ready to buy their racing license, train with racers, etc., they'll probably chew you up and spit you out. I think centuries make good goals because a lot of people do them, with some discipline, they're highly achievable, and while some people still try to "win" century rides (not me, of course :p ) the general vibe is a lot less competitive.

    I think part of the growth of MTB endurance races, gran fondos on- and off-road, and century rides is that people spend hours a week for periods of years getting to the fitness levels in the faster categories, and even 5 on the road is pretty fast. A good winter and a good build cycle are enough to finish an endurance event and feel good about it. But it feels pretty crappy, although it happens to almost everybody at some point, to get dumped off the back of a shorter race. When it's a distance that most most riders exceed in their training rides, training becomes about doing that distance faster and racing becomes about beating people. Longer distances have a different attitude, and since there's no drafting off-road, you also don't have the possibility of getting dumped by the pack and pulled from the race.
  • 09-03-2012
    Grinderz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    yea but honesty... and it sucks and is pretty embarrassing to admit it.. i get winded just gear up for the ride ( changing shoes, pulling the bike down ect.. ) yes i know its sad!!!

    I rode recently with a friend who is larger but much better fit than i am and we rode the same trails.. at the end of the ride both our computers said we rode 10.4KM however my total ride time was 1 hour 20 mins and his was 45 mins.. same computer. I know for a fact he was riding up what he suggested where simple climbs using his big gears.. while i did the same climbs in the granny gear and needing to stop and walk often :(

    Im very embarassed to have let myself get to where i am physically..


    I wouldnt be so hard on yourself. You are taking the right steps to help boost your overall fitness.

    Whenever you are having a hard time on the trails, and you have to get off and walk, dont beat yourself up about it.

    Just remember this: "It doesnt matter how slow you go, you are still lapping the person on the couch!"

    Best of luck with your rides
  • 09-04-2012
    Sandrenseren
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    I rode recently with a friend who is larger but much better fit than i am and we rode the same trails.. at the end of the ride both our computers said we rode 10.4KM however my total ride time was 1 hour 20 mins and his was 45 mins.. same computer. I know for a fact he was riding up what he suggested where simple climbs using his big gears.. while i did the same climbs in the granny gear and needing to stop and walk often :(

    Nothing wrong with using the granny or walking, it's part of the game. Lets face it, if you can coast over the hills on the big ring without ever "grannying" or walking you need to find a more challenging route. I'm always on the lookout for new hills to replace the ones I've mastered, I can't "granny" because I ride a singlespeed but I do walk quite a bit.

    Don't get discouraged because someone is faster than you, just think "Hey, I'm still new at this, let's see what's what next year". When I started riding everyone and everything was faster than me. My riding style was best described as some sort of "Tai-chi on a bike", quickly becoming a master of staying upright when almost going backwards. I kid you not, I was outrun by a butterfly, it flew in front of me on a long climb, hung with me for a bit before flying on ahead. A year later I'm still being overtaken every once in a while but not nearly as often and the butterflies gets to eat my dust! :p

    You can do astonishing things to your cardio and stamina by riding 3-4 times a week for 3 months, not to mention in a year. The trick is to keep it manageable by picking routes you know you can do and adding a little bit of extra each ride.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    Im very embarassed to have let myself get to where i am physically..

    Be that as it may, but you're taking steps to correct that.
  • 09-04-2012
    Bill in Houston
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    Im very embarassed to have let myself get to where i am physically..

    you are awesome. don't let anyone tell you otherwise, especially yourself.
  • 09-04-2012
    AndrwSwitch
    FWIW, I love my granny gear. :)
  • 09-04-2012
    mattnmtns
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    yea but honesty... and it sucks and is pretty embarrassing to admit it.. i get winded just gear up for the ride ( changing shoes, pulling the bike down ect.. ) yes i know its sad!!!

    I rode recently with a friend who is larger but much better fit than i am and we rode the same trails.. at the end of the ride both our computers said we rode 10.4KM however my total ride time was 1 hour 20 mins and his was 45 mins.. same computer. I know for a fact he was riding up what he suggested where simple climbs using his big gears.. while i did the same climbs in the granny gear and needing to stop and walk often :(

    Im very embarassed to have let myself get to where i am physically..

    Just be proud of the fact that you are out there riding! It seems like you are enjoying doing it which is just as important. No one is perfect and everyone has made some poor choices in life. I have the utmost respect for you getting out there and trying to make a change for yourself. I think it is awesome. It should be inspiration for everyone, as everyone has room for improvement in their lives.

    There is no shame in using the granny gear or having to walk your bike. I have to do both frequently, the more I ride the less I find I have to do either. Keep on riding!

    Keep up the good work, and update us on your progress.
  • 09-04-2012
    gigantour
    Iím a rider of 12 years and i ma giving up my 2001 GT Avalanche 1.0 for a larger and better ride. I am 6'7" and Iím having trouble finding a bike in the 1100 - 1600 price range. Does anyone have any suggestions on a full suspension?
  • 09-04-2012
    michael lambert
    Thanks guys, I guess often i just feel bad for the guys i do ride with.. I mean for them they just never know what they are going to get.. some days i can jump on and ride for 45 mins.. but then i have those days where 10 mins in im just totally spent and done.. :(

    I do have a trainer on order, so as our weather here starts to go south i will be on it...

    My biggest problem is trying to eat right and portioned right.. I mean when the doctor tells me to eat veggies and chicken breast... i don't think he meant 3 chicken breasts and a whole head of broccoli for myself which is what it tends to take to fill me up :(
  • 09-04-2012
    Grinderz
    Drinking lots of water throughout the day can help surpress hunger pains. I have found that feeling hungry and actually being hungry can be a lot different at times.

    Good idea on the trainer. Keeping yourself motivated whilst the weather is bad is key. It's hard to start/stop all the time than it is to keep chipping away at something.
  • 09-04-2012
    deke505
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    Thanks guys, I guess often i just feel bad for the guys i do ride with.. I mean for them they just never know what they are going to get.. some days i can jump on and ride for 45 mins.. but then i have those days where 10 mins in im just totally spent and done.. :(

    I do have a trainer on order, so as our weather here starts to go south i will be on it...

    My biggest problem is trying to eat right and portioned right.. I mean when the doctor tells me to eat veggies and chicken breast... i don't think he meant 3 chicken breasts and a whole head of broccoli for myself which is what it tends to take to fill me up :(


    The trick ( and I have difficulties doing this) is to leave the table a little hungry. I took a personal training course and they always said never jump on a new diet, work your way to it. Slowly cut down on what you eat over a period of 4 weeks, it makes things transition a little easier.
  • 09-04-2012
    michael lambert
    Well yet another disappointment :http://forums.mtbr.com/beginners-corner/too-big-fat-but-determined-807969-post9654629.html#post9654629\" rel=\"nofollow\">View Post
    . I know for a fact he was riding up what he suggested where simple climbs using his big gears.. while i did the same climbs in the granny gear and needing to stop and walk often :(

    Im very embarassed to have let myself get to where i am physically..

    Don't hate on yourself. Being big does not make you a bad person.

    And don't hate on walking and granny gears! Very few people are born able to grind up any incline without practicing and working at it. (at least that's what I tell myself when I'm walking...)
  • 09-04-2012
    AndrwSwitch
    Bib shorts stay in place much better.

    If you don't need the pockets in a cycling jersey, you can substitute running tops, general workout tops, etc.

    And, don't worry about holding up your friends. If they don't want to ride with you, they just won't tell you. ;) Seriously, it drives me nuts when I ask one of my friends to go riding with me and he or she freaks out about holding me up, not being able to handle the trails, whatever. I want to (and sometimes do) say that when I want to set a PR or do a high-effort workout, I just don't tell anyone else I'm going.
  • 09-04-2012
    michael lambert
    Yea i have been looking at Bib shorts.. lol But my butt and spandex don't really look very appealing.. lol

    But i did order the 6XL jersey and if it fits better then i will look into the bib shorts as i do use the pockets on the shorts that the jersey will replace.
  • 09-04-2012
    AndrwSwitch
    IMO, road shorts are better liners than the liners that MTB shorts come with.

    If you don't want to show off your butt, put some shell shorts on over the bib shorts. Actually a good way to get double-duty out of the shells for MTB shorts you already have. It's not so gross to re-wear the shell if you're not re-wearing the liner.
  • 09-04-2012
    mitzikatzi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by michael lambert View Post
    Yea i have been looking at Bib shorts.. lol But my butt and spandex don't really look very appealing.. lol

    But i did order the 6XL jersey and if it fits better then i will look into the bib shorts as i do use the pockets on the shorts that the jersey will replace.

    I don't look at my own bum when riding.

    If people want to wheel suck then it is up them not to look at my bum.

    What ever you do white lycra shorts a BIG No No :eek:

    +1 to shell shorts over the top
  • 09-05-2012
    JoePAz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sandrenseren View Post
    Don't get discouraged because someone is faster than you, ...

    You can do astonishing things to your cardio and stamina by riding 3-4 times a week for 3 months, not to mention in a year. ...

    Just remember their will ALWAYS be someone faster than you. You can be slow or fast and there will still be someone faster. Since you are on Strava my suggestion is to find a few local trails and ride them often. Same trails and record all the rides. Set-up some segments on these trails that make sense to you if they don't have them and then just compare your rides each time out. What you will find in that your times will constantly be improving as both your technical skills improve and your fitness level improves. It wil be nice to see "PR" on these rides all the time. At least for me it is a nice way to track my own improvements.