1. The most important thing about buying a new bike is to make sure it fits. The only way you'll know if the bike is right for you is to size up the bike and make sure that the bike's geometry matches your body's geometry. Ask questions and do some research.
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2. If possible, try to find a shop that will let you demo the bike on real dirt. Five minutes in a parking lot won't cut it. You wouldn't buy a car without a real world test drive, and a bike should be no different.
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    Sports (Dick's) vs. Bike Shops

    I noticed some bikes (i.e. diamond back) are sold in a bike shop, Costco and Dick's Sports.... So where do I purchase and why? It appears all carry the same bike specs. Thanks for any advice.

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    If you work on your own bikes, buy it where its the cheapest if its the same bike. If you don't work on your own bike, I would buy it from a good local shop that can do the maintenance on it. The hard part is figuring out which local shops are the good ones. You don't really knows until you have to deal with them.

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    Pretty good sticky more or less on the same subject:
    Beginners and Dept Store Bikes
    I don't know if Dick's falls under that, being an actual sporting goods retailer I'd hope they have better stuff than dept. stores.
    Their website is ran by a different company however and doesn't reflect what they have in store, FYI.

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    Diamondback has a ridiculously massive range of pricepoints they address.

    The very bottom of their LBS range sometimes shows up at a better price at Dick's and Costco, and seems like it might be an okay way to stretch a buck.

    Which bike, exactly, were you looking at? And what's your budget?
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    Go with the bike shop. They will do WAYYY more for you down the line as far as warranty, repair, help, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS
    Go with the bike shop. They will do WAYYY more for you down the line as far as warranty, repair, help, etc.

    Unless you live where I do...... Where all the bike shops are full of people who have no idea what they are doing. My advice is to learn how to work on your own stuff... saves you money and you know its done right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mullen119
    Unless you live where I do...... Where all the bike shops are full of people who have no idea what they are doing. My advice is to learn how to work on your own stuff... saves you money and you know its done right.
    I totally agree with that. But in some cases that is just impossible. And besides you'll still need a bike shop for tools and parts anyways. I'm just saying I would buy 10 bikes from a bike shop even though I do my own repairs, maintinence, etc, before I ever bought one from a department store. Plus (I do work in a shop) the newer Diamondbacks have had some issues with the freehub body. And since it is such a cheaply made bike, that hub does not have a replaceable freehub body on it so the unlucky customers either have to buy a new rear wheel or buy a new rear hub and have it built up to the current rim. Honestly in my opinion, the OP should opt to spend the extra $100 or so and get a nice Giant or Specialized, Cannondale, Trek etc. from a shop that will help them out. Dick's bike service is garbage anyways, along with any department store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS
    I totally agree with that. But in some cases that is just impossible. And besides you'll still need a bike shop for tools and parts anyways. I'm just saying I would buy 10 bikes from a bike shop even though I do my own repairs, maintinence, etc, before I ever bought one from a department store. Plus (I do work in a shop) the newer Diamondbacks have had some issues with the freehub body. And since it is such a cheaply made bike, that hub does not have a replaceable freehub body on it so the unlucky customers either have to buy a new rear wheel or buy a new rear hub and have it built up to the current rim. Honestly in my opinion, the OP should opt to spend the extra $100 or so and get a nice Giant or Specialized, Cannondale, Trek etc. from a shop that will help them out. Dick's bike service is garbage anyways, along with any department store.

    I agree about the service... but the Dick's by me has a 1700.00 Mission and a Sortie that was around the same price..... Really nice bikes I would have no problem buying from ***** if I was looking for a bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mullen119
    I agree about the service... but the Dick's by me has a 1700.00 Mission and a Sortie that was around the same price..... Really nice bikes I would have no problem buying from ***** if I was looking for a bike.
    Higher end stuff for sure is fine to buy as long as you double check every single bolt before you ride it and hope you don't run into any warranty issues later with the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sasquatch rides a SS
    Higher end stuff for sure is fine to buy as long as you double check every single bolt before you ride it and hope you don't run into any warranty issues later with the bike.

    You dont want a backwards fork

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    Quote Originally Posted by mullen119
    You dont want a backwards fork
    Unless you like to ride that way I hear it is more aerodynamic

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    I bought my first MTB at Dick's, and I dont regret it. I even had the guy there tune it up a couple times before I figured out how to work on it myself. This was back in 2003. Knowing what I know now Id go to a bike shop, but the Dick's bike has never given me any problems.

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    The sporting goods stores are better in some places, especially where there's not enough of a customer base to support a smaller shop. Talk to people in your area who know the bike scene, and see what they say. What makes the difference to a lot of people is support, others it's up front cost, get out, ask questions, and see what people think is important and what stores they like the best.

    Good luck.

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    I bought a bike from Sports Authority. I promptly returned it five days later, And hightailed it to my LBS and bought a better bike.

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    The ***** Sporting goods near me has had a diamondback sortie in their rack for over a year now. it is sporting scratches on the frame from being mistreated.... I wouldnt buy a bike from *****. Aside from REI, I dont really know of any non-bike exclusive stores where I would be inclined to trust the people working there. Go with the Bike shop for ease of warrenty issues, lifetime tune-ups, and all the other nice things you get when dealing with a bike shop Vs dept. store. sometimes the extra 60 bucks is worthwhile... hell, you could even ask if they price match?

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    I bought my bike from Dick's and couldn't be happier. I actually go to a LBS just 3 blocks away and they repair or help me out whenever. The Diamondback Response is the bike I have and really like it and the price. The only thing I Suggest is get new tires, the Kendra's that come on it are heavy.

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    We dont have a ***** by me but we do have Scheels. That is a pretty big all sporting store. They sell Trek/Gary Fishers and thats where I bought my fuel. Just because you buy a bike at any sporting good store doesnt mean thats were you have to take it for tune ups and maintenance. I take my bike to a LBS for all my service but the price of the fuel was to good to pass up at the BIG sporting good store. As far as warranty I am pretty sure the local LBS that sells trek will work with trek for warranty stuff even though I didn't buy my bike from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hotwhls
    We dont have a ***** by me but we do have Scheels. That is a pretty big all sporting store. They sell Trek/Gary Fishers and thats where I bought my fuel. Just because you buy a bike at any sporting good store doesnt mean thats were you have to take it for tune ups and maintenance. I take my bike to a LBS for all my service but the price of the fuel was to good to pass up at the BIG sporting good store. As far as warranty I am pretty sure the local LBS that sells trek will work with trek for warranty stuff even though I didn't buy my bike from them.

    Good points. And while i am not trying to argue against you, or convince others of anything... Most LBS give free lifetime tune ups when you buy the bike from them, (minus parts of course) and they will charge up to 70 dollars for the very same service if you did not purchase your bike there. So... if you do your own basic tune up, maintenance, etc, then it really doesnt matter. i got my bike as a frame, used, and built it up, so i have zero warrenty, and either do all my own work, or pay for it, but i dont mind, because the only waiting i do is for myself to finish working on the bike, not the long wait lists for a repair ticket at the LBS.
    I think people should learn to work on their own machines for one reason above all others: trailside breakdowns. learning how to pull a link out of a broken chain so you can ride out is pretty important (you do carry a chain-tool right?) or dealing with any of a wide variety of mechanical failures you can experience on the trail is something that will keep you from pushing a broken bike.

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    To further getting a bike at *****, find/meet someone that works there. Employee's get a 25% discount. My nephew works there, I may have to go have a look.....

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    Bike shop all the way!! I used to work at Dick's and Sports Authority and the training was minimal. i.e. if you can put a front wheel in the fork and install the handlebars you were golden. I would shop around for a bike shop you are comfortable with and that is knowledgable. Grant it, not all bike shops are well trained but there certainly are some good ones out there. Remember, you get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mullen119
    I agree about the service... but the Dick's by me has a 1700.00 Mission and a Sortie that was around the same price..... Really nice bikes I would have no problem buying from ***** if I was looking for a bike.
    The Dick's Sporting Goods stores by me (three stores within a 20 minute drive) do not carry ANY mid-level priced bikes. Their high end is a Diamondback Response Comp which is actually a decent entry level Hardtail. Don't think I'd buy anything below that level.

    http://www.*****sportinggoods.com/pr...eProductSearch

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbeck
    The Dick's Sporting Goods stores by me (three stores within a 20 minute drive) do not carry ANY mid-level priced bikes. Their high end is a Diamondback Response Comp which is actually a decent entry level Hardtail. Don't think I'd buy anything below that level.

    http://www.*****sportinggoods.com/pr...eProductSearch

    I think it all depends on Location. I have not been to a ***** in over a year... but they had some really nice bikes in one of the local stores(use to anyway). If you look in the diamondback forum, there is a guy that has pictures of a mission that he bought from his local *****.

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    As someone who has worked/is working for a major sporting goods retailer as a bike tech (not going to disclose which one on here) I can tell you that experiences with the "major" bike places are going to vary just as much as experiences with LBS's. Some major stores have really great techs that are just as good, if not better, than any tech at a LBS. Just like there are some LBS that will rip you off and do shoddy work...

    Visit your local LBS and some major retailers in your area, talk to the tech's/salespeople, try to get the general vibe of the store. See which ones are trying to help and which ones are looking for a sale. And of course look for which place can get you the best price (assuming component groups are comparable). As far as warranties, ask for a pamphlet and read up on the small print, some are really good and will cover just about everything (literally), others only cover minor adjustments...

    P.S. I've ridden a couple of Diamondback's before, great bikes for the price. Although I would stay away from the low end stuff (i.e. outlook's and sorrento's)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbfrance
    Bike shop all the way!! I used to work at Dick's and Sports Authority and the training was minimal. i.e. if you can put a front wheel in the fork and install the handlebars you were golden. I would shop around for a bike shop you are comfortable with and that is knowledgable. Grant it, not all bike shops are well trained but there certainly are some good ones out there. Remember, you get what you pay for.
    Were you the bike tech?? If so your a pretty bad bike tech.

    I work at Dick's right now and we only have bike techs that assemble and repair all the bikes. Most Dick's do not let a bike be purchased without actually being tech'd out by the tech. So let's get a few things straight here in these next few paragraphs:

    1st

    Diamondbacks are a solid brand don't let anyone tell you that treks, specialized, etc are better... They are just more expensive. Generally the manufacture only makes the frame and the rest of the components are shipped out from the various biking companies.

    2nd

    There are many different levels in DB. The stores of Dick's are labeled in tiers based on traffic. The busiest stores are going to get the highest volume of bikes and more expensive bikes, this should make sense because we are a business. Location will vary the amount of bikes and the quality of bikes. BOTH the Sortie lineup and the Mission are very well built bikes and I see plenty of AM kids rip the hell out of them.

    3rd

    Buying a bike from a bike shop based on warranty is stupid. I don't know about you guys but I've been ripped off by plenty of bike shops that know the same or less about repairing bikes than I do myself. FYI the best deal is through Dick's we offer a stupid easy warranty system that IF anything breaks on the bike you simply bring in the bike and we order new parts for it. I've had guys buy a $250 bmx bike that they tear apart and we put $500 back into it through various wheelsets, cranks etc. Like I said, stupid easy and you have to be dumb to not get it.

    The moral:

    Am I saying you should buy from Dick's? No you don't have to at all. Is DB a good brand? Hell yeah. My advice to you is find something used through your local craigslist or pinkbike or something else. That is going to be the best bang for your buck. But if your looking at a Sortie that is a couple hundo cheaper than a bike shop why wouldn't you get it at Dick's?

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    [QUOTE=pfox90]The stores of Dick's are labeled[QUOTE]

    Good, so we'll all know which ones they are, that right there should tell you something......

    Ha, I'm just kidding, but for me, if I'm buying a bike, I'll go to a bike store. Plenty of people though I'm sure don't a LBS, or a good one, unfriendly, take advantage etc so I think it fills a good gap between dept store and LBS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorsteenster
    To further getting a bike at *****, find/meet someone that works there. Employee's get a 25% discount. My nephew works there, I may have to go have a look.....
    I lied, he works at Sports Authority. I was thinking ***** I guess being I was making fun of him saying he should have gone to ***** instead so he could be Floor Dick, or Check Dick, or maybe even one day, Head Dick.


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