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    Sizing help with fantom comp or Jamis dakar comp

    I am looking at getting a full suspension XC bike, but am unsure what size to get. I am 25 and am 5'11"-6' at 180. I tried to measure my standover height and came up with around 32-32.5, but I might be measuring this wrong. I am more into comfort then super aggressive riding, so I like to sit up a little straighter. Right now I am looking at the motobecane fantom comp or a Jamis Dakar XC comp 2004 model. Also looking at IBEX Asta but it is a little more then I set my budget at. The Jamis is only available in the 19 inch with a top tube length of 23.7, standover of 31.34. The fantom 18 ttl of 22.5 with standover of 28.5. 20 inch is ttl of 23.5 and standover of 30.5. I have a diamondback sorento cheap hardtail that is a 20 inch frame and it seems to fit me alright. Any advice would be great thanks!

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    19-20 depending of frame is what you are looking for. If you are planning on keeping a bike for awhile & riding a mixed varity of trails & teraine you should look seriously at the Ibex Asta. Bang for the buck it packs a massive punch & will handle almost anything.
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    Yeah it is very appealing to me, but I set the price limit with my wife at 900 which is what the previous bikes mentioned are going for. I know its only 135$ more, but what advantages would the asta have over the jamis dakar XC comp or Motobecane fantom? The specs looked pretty similar, although I am far from an expert at examining specs, I just look at the basics like shox and stuff. thanks for the help it is much appreciated

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    The Jamis Dakar is a sweet bike also but a '04 for $900 is very high. The Fox fork is nice but i believe it retailed for around 1200 new.
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    The jamis 2004 is a "new" bike, it is a closeout. It said the retail was like 1450$ in 2004, so I was thinking 900 was a decent deal, but I will have to archive it to see. So whether I went with the asta or moto go with a 20, and obviously the jamis is only available in 19 so that is what I would go with there. In your opinion, how important is a rear lock out? The Jamis doesn't have one, and because my only major experience is on hardtails I wonder if not having that will be a big problem? Thanks so much for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefranchise10
    The jamis 2004 is a "new" bike, it is a closeout. It said the retail was like 1450$ in 2004, so I was thinking 900 was a decent deal, but I will have to archive it to see. So whether I went with the asta or moto go with a 20, and obviously the jamis is only available in 19 so that is what I would go with there. In your opinion, how important is a rear lock out? The Jamis doesn't have one, and because my only major experience is on hardtails I wonder if not having that will be a big problem? Thanks so much for your help.
    Almost a 4 year old bike, possibly 900 out the door with acessories. Frame sizing changes from 1 manufacture to another so a 19 Jamis could fit you still. You could always check with Jamis direct, they have great C/S.

    Personally i dont like lock out because a HT bounces over rocks & roots while a propedal type allows the suspension to absorb the impact keeping the wheel on the ground where it belongs, traction.
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    So in your opinion the Jamis is really not that good of a deal seeing that it is 3 and a half years old? What do you mean by propedal? I have seen that advertised on some shox like the fox float. Is propedal due to something with the shock or what? Does the Ario 2.2 have this?

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    900 is a little steap check out http://www.bicycleblowout.com/ I was looking at the Jamis Dakar for my buddy and the local retail shop for bicycleblowout has it for around 620 for an 06 i believe
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    Bikes are allot like MX motorcycles or autos, they depreciate rapidly. Pro pedal is designed int the shock, it basically eliminates or smooths out the pedaling motions that cause the bike to Bob down & up with each rotation yet on a hard impact like a tree root will bypass the ProPedal & absorb the impact normally.
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    It is the jamis dakar XC "comp" model and not just the Jamis Dakar. Is the one you are looking at for your buddy just the regular dakar model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKnight
    900 is a little steap check out http://www.bicycleblowout.com/ I was looking at the Jamis Dakar for my buddy and the local retail shop for bicycleblowout has it for around 620 for an 06 i believe
    yea... i have to agree there...
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    http://www.ibexbikes.com/Bikes/ASTA-...7-Details.html

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