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    A question about Joe's Bio Degreaser

    Hello every one, i want to ask you all a question about this product, and the question is mostly about what can i do with it ? can i clean with it my shox seals ? is it bad for the disk break pads ?.......and there is any thing else i should know about it ?

    Thank you all and have a nice day.
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    Keep it away from the brake pads and disks.

    I would limit it's use to the drivetrain. That's what it's made for.

    There really isn't any need to "degrease" anything else.

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    Isoprpyl Alcohol on brakes, NO degreaser...you can pay a lot of $$ per oz for "bicycle degreaser" or just buy some Simple Green, Purple Power, or similar for way less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72
    Isoprpyl Alcohol on brakes, NO degreaser...you can pay a lot of $$ per oz for "bicycle degreaser" or just buy some Simple Green, Purple Power, or similar for way less.

    Simple green is where its at.
    they even make a lemon scented version now, which is a lot nicer to smell than the original... which isnt that bad either, but yea...

    i use simple green on almost the whole bike (rag damp with simplegreen to wipe down the frame, etc, as i have a matte paint job on my frame). but yes, keep cleaners and such away from brake parts.

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    Mates, chack out this video of joe's---- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xbx5...layer_embedded
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    I'm sure "Joe's" would love for you to spray it all over with their aerosol can. It must be right, "I saw it on Youtube".

    Most of the product hit the ground and was wasted (and back you go to buy more). The whole frame can usually be washed with just water.

    I know the pretty girl made the product look wonderful and easy to use while you clean and lube the bike in one minute, but it just doesn't work like that.

    She degreased the derailluer and failed to lube it. She lubed the chain without giving it time for the water to dry from inside the rollers, guaranteeing that the lube stayed on the outside where it does no good. She is probably causing an early death for the freehub. She contaminated the brake pads, etc., etc.

    Feel free to follow the video. It's your bike, but my advise is don't do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr
    I'm sure "Joe's" would love for you to spray it all over with their aerosol can. It must be right, "I saw it on Youtube".

    Most of the product hit the ground and was wasted (and back you go to buy more). The whole frame can usually be washed with just water.

    I know the pretty girl made the product look wonderful and easy to use while you clean and lube the bike in one minute, but it just doesn't work like that.

    She "degrease the derailluer and failed to lube it. She lubed the chain without giving it time for the water to dry from inside the rollers, guaranteeing that the lube stayed on the outside where it does no good. She is probably causing an early death for the freehub. She contaminated the brake pads, etc., etc.

    Feel free to follow the video. It's your bike, but my advise is don't do it.
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    Hey wait a minute.....this is a message from SRAM

    CLEANING DO's and DON'TS




    Do: Wet a rag, or spray your fork with isopropyl alcohol or degreaser. Wipe the crown, top caps, upper tubes, dust seals, and lower legs clean.
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    So as i understand from Sram, i can use it on my fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jordenkl
    Hey wait a minute.....this is a message from SRAM

    CLEANING DO's and DON'TS




    Do: Wet a rag, or spray your fork with isopropyl alcohol or degreaser. Wipe the crown, top caps, upper tubes, dust seals, and lower legs clean.

    Yea, typically I just spray an old sock with some simple green, just till its damp, and wrap it around the stanchion tube and wipe it down, clear all the dirt from around the seals, and then make sure it's dry.

    Soaking my bike with a spray of degreaser sounds bad for my greased up suspension pivots... I use old t shirts as rags, and spray the cleaner (simple green) onto my rag, then wipe the bike down. On the occasions that my chain requires a real cleaning, I lay a couple rags in behind the chain, and spray the chain directly with the simple green, other than that, I don't spray degreaser onto a bike.

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    I wouldn't EVER use degreaser near my fork or shock. It will only remove the lubricant that makes the fork operate properly. A wet rag will suffice for fork cleaning.

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    It may because I don't ride in the mud but I think actively cleaning your bike is a waste of time and effort. Spraying it down with a hose is about the most I would bother with. Most of the dirt that gets on you bike, epically your mountain bike, is inconsequential.

    That being said I think cleaning and properly lubing your drivetrain, regular maintenance (not obsessive maintenance), and not being a tight wad when it comes to buying new parts goes a LONG way.

    The only degreaser I end up using is when I clean my chain, which happens about twice a chain, and I like the Finish Line citrus stuff, but really anything will work.

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