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    Pedal Upgrade-But no straps?

    Here's a question:

    I just purchased a Kona Cindercone. I got them to upgrade the pedals. But they didn't put any straps or cages on them, as they said they don/t recommend them.

    What's the deal here?

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    What pedals were you having before? What did they change it to? Is it just a regular, BMX style platform pedal? Or does the pedal have some sort of mechanism (with springs) in there?

    If there is a "mechanism" in the pedal, then what you have is called a Clipless pedal. They do not need straps, but they do need a set of cleats attached to the shoes. These cleats click into the groove of the pedal.
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    I believe they are termed "platform". Possibly the Kona Jackshit Pedals.

    They are not the clipless pedal, as I didn't want to buy the special shoes (what a pain I though).

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    So you had platform pedals to begin with, and your LBS upgraded the pedals to another platform pedals? Then likely the newer ones are lighter, made of better material, are gripper, or something along those lines. If you could tell what the brand name and model numbers are (of the one you had, and the new ones) maybe someone can help you out on telling whats the exact difference.
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    Yes. Basically the originals were puny plastic pieces of junk with straps . These are Large aluminum ones with set screws that can be adjusted for grip, they feel great.

    My question is really, are straps not so great like the LBS told me?

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    Definitely because if you crash you don't want your feet to be strapped onto the pedals. You would definitely get more bruises and broken bones.

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    Okay, sounds good and logical!

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    I dunno if you can get straps onto big platform pedals, but IMO toeclips/straps are definitely -not- anymore dangerous than clipless.

    Having just switched from several years of riding with clips to riding with clipless, I feel that the main difference is a little more bling factor and a little more leverage with the clipless. But I have fallen a lot with clips, and they have never been any more difficult to get out of than clipless.

    Maybe straps wouldn't work well with the better pedals they sold you, or maybe the shop prefers the 150$ solution to a 10$ pair of clips, but it isn't a safety decision.
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    I also rode for a couple years using toe-clips / straps. I switched to clipless a few years ago and haven't looked back, so much better.

    But toe clips are definitely better than plain platforms, and they are not any less safer. The whole "they aren't as safe if you fall" is spouted about by a bunch of pansies. There are quite a few who only ride plain platforms because they are unreasonably afraid of toe-clips or clipless pedals. For an XC bike, toe clips or clipless is the only way to go, so you can get a full pedal revolution--you'll be able to get much more power and efficiency out of each pedal stroke.

    It can be difficult to install toe-clips on some platform pedals. Looking at the Kona pedals you mentioned, I can see that they may be a pedal that is difficult to get the toe-clips to play nice because of the "lip" that is on the front of them.

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    i would think that straps are much more dangerous than the clips. i have never ridden either( my first good bike had straps but i junked them without even riding with them) but i have seen good riders actually click out and bail with clips before they even hit the ground. i dont think you have a chance with straps in that case. Try out the platforms, unless you ride very rough terrain that throws your feet of the pedals or just want to only ride xc type trails. if you like doing occasional street rides, and maybe some jumping then deffinentaly consider the platforms.

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    "i would think that straps are much more dangerous than the clips. i have never ridden either"

    Not to dog on you, but if you haven't ridden on either, how would you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krellmachine
    "i would think that straps are much more dangerous than the clips. i have never ridden either"

    Not to dog on you, but if you haven't ridden on either, how would you know?
    thats why i said i have never ridden with either, but think about it, with straps, unless the straps are loose your not going to be able to pull your foot out, but with clips you can click out and bail. the only reason i ever said anything was to suggest that maybe he should give the platforms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krellmachine
    I dunno if you can get straps onto big platform pedals, but IMO toeclips/straps are definitely -not- anymore dangerous than clipless.

    Having just switched from several years of riding with clips to riding with clipless, I feel that the main difference is a little more bling factor and a little more leverage with the clipless. But I have fallen a lot with clips, and they have never been any more difficult to get out of than clipless.

    Maybe straps wouldn't work well with the better pedals they sold you, or maybe the shop prefers the 150$ solution to a 10$ pair of clips, but it isn't a safety decision.
    I never saw a clipless pedal get snagged on a root or branch, but Ive seen it happen with straps. also if you want to pedal without being strapped in , the strap usually ends up on the bottom, with clipless dont clip in

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