NOOBS!...read this.

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  • 06-17-2011
    CHUM
    NOOBS!...read this.
    From the Surly Blog - a good place to visit.

    Quote:

    If you think your bike looks good, it does.

    If you like the way your bike rides, it’s an awesome bike.

    You don’t need to spend a million dollars to have a great bike, but if you do spend a million dollars and know what you want you’ll probably also have a great bike.

    Yes, you can tour on your bike – whatever it is.

    Yes, you can race on your bike – whatever it is.

    Yes, you can commute on your bike – whatever it is.

    26” wheels or 29” or 650b or 700c or 24” or 20” or whatever – yes, that wheel size is rad and you’ll probably get where you’re going.

    Disc brakes, cantis, v-brakes, and road calipers all do a great job of stopping a bike when they’re working and adjusted.

    No paint job makes everyone happy.

    Yes, you can put a rack on that. Get some p-clamps if there are no mounts.

    Steel is a great material for making bike frames - so is aluminum, carbon fiber, and titanium.

    You can have your saddle at whatever angle makes you happy.

    Your handlebars can be lower than your saddle, even with your saddle, or higher than your saddle. Whichever way you like it is right.

    Being shuttled up a downhill run does not make you a weak person, nor does choosing not to fly off of a 10 foot drop.

    Bike frames made overseas can be super cool. Bike frames made in the USA can be super cool.

    Hey, tattooed and pierced long shorts wearin flat brim hat red bull drinkin white Oakley sportin rad person on your full suspension big hit bike – nice work out there.

    Hey, little round glasses pocket protector collared shirt skid lid rear view mirror sandal wearing schwalbe marathon running pletscher two-leg kickstand tourist – good job.

    Hey, shaved leg skinny as hell super duper tan line hear rate monitor checking power tap train in the basement all winter super loud lycra kit million dollar wheels racer – keep it up.

    The more you ride your bike, the less your ass will hurt.

    The following short answers are good answers, but not the only ones for the question asked – 29”, Brooks, lugged, disc brake, steel, Campagnolo, helmet, custom, Rohloff, NJS, carbon, 31.8, clipless, porteur.

    No bike does everything perfectly. In fact, no bike does anything until someone gets on it to ride.

    Sometimes, recumbent bikes are ok.

    Your bikeshop is not trying to screw you. They’re trying to stay open.

    Buying things off of the internet is great, except when it sucks.

    Some people know more about bikes than you do. Other people know less.

    Maybe the person you waved at while you were out riding didn’t see you wave at them.

    It sucks to be harassed by *******s in cars while you’re on a bike. It also sucks to drive behind *******s on bikes.

    Did you build that yourself? Awesome. Did you buy that? Cool.

    Wheelies are the best trick ever invented. That’s just a fact.

    Which is better, riding long miles, or hanging out under a bridge doing tricks? Yes.

    Yes, you can break your collar bone riding a bike like that.

    Stopping at stop signs is probably a good idea.

    Driving with your bikes on top of your car to get to a dirt trail isn’t ideal, but for most people it’s necessary.

    If your bike has couplers, or if you have a spendy bike case, or if you pay a shop to pack your bike, or if you have a folding bike, shipping a bike is still a pain in the ass for everyone involved.

    That dent in your frame is probably ok, but maybe it’s not. You should get it looked at.

    Touch up paint always looks like ****. Often it looks worse than the scratch.

    A pristine bike free of dirt, scratches, and wear marks makes me sort of sad.

    A bike that’s been chained to the same tree for three years caked with rust and missing parts makes me sad too.

    Bikes purchased at Wal-mart, Target, Costco, or K-mart are generally not the best bang for your buck.

    Toe overlap is not the end of the world, unless you crash and die – then it is.

    Sometimes parts break. Sometimes you crash. Sometimes it’s your fault.

    Yes, you can buy a bike without riding it first. It would be nice to ride it first, but it’s not a deal breaker not to.

    Ownership of a truing stand does not a wheel builder make.

    32 spokes, 48 spokes, 24 spokes, three spokes? Sure.

    Single speed bikes are rad. Bikes with derailleurs and cassettes are sexy. Belt drive internal gear bikes work great too.

    Columbus, TruTemper, Reynolds, Ishiwata, or no brand? I’d ride it.

    Tubeless tires are pretty cool. So are tubes.

    The moral of RAGBRAI is that families and drunken boobs can have fun on the same route, just maybe at different times of day.

    Riding by yourself kicks ass. You might also try riding with a group.

    Really fast people are frustrating, but they make you faster. When you get faster, you might frustrate someone else.

    Stopping can be as much fun as riding.

    Lots of people worked their asses off to build whatever you’re riding on. You should thank them.
    originally posted by Skip Bernet on the Surly Blog - 06.16.2011
  • 06-17-2011
    Crash Test Dumby
    :thumbsup:
  • 06-17-2011
    doc Dee
    nice post
  • 06-17-2011
    GOTA
    Great stuff!
  • 06-17-2011
    Adam_B.
    :thumbsup:
  • 06-17-2011
    flowmaster
    What you will find on that link is the truth, plain and simple. Great post.

    I would however go one step further and say it isn't just for noobs, everyone who rides should read it.
  • 06-17-2011
    CHUM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flowmaster View Post
    I would however go one step further and say it isn't just for noobs, everyone who rides should read it.

    found the link here:
    http://forums.mtbr.com/general-discussion/best-blog-post-ever-717575.html

    in 'General'

    seemed like a good fit for the 'Beginner' section...IMO
  • 06-17-2011
    JasperIN
    I'm not a noob, I like to post pictures of my bikes just because I think they are cool.
  • 06-17-2011
    Jeexer13
    If you're happy and you know it...ride your bike!!
  • 06-17-2011
    Lost Biker
    If your happy and know it...ride your bike!!
  • 06-17-2011
    smokinoak
    If you are happy with your bike and it gets you off of the couch and on the trails,by all means,ride you ass off until something breaks and then replace it.
  • 06-17-2011
    bitty
    nice post
  • 06-17-2011
    kayin
    so much truth! good post!:thumbsup:
  • 06-17-2011
    mhix01
    If you think your bike looks good, it does.
    If you like the way your bike rides, it’s an awesome bike.


    Bikes purchased at Wal-mart, Target, Costco, or K-mart are generally not the best bang for your buck.


    I love my costco bought Northrock XC6. It looks good, it rides good and so far, it's holding up fine.

    I do like the points he makes though, other than the one that implies my precious XC6 aint no good.
  • 06-18-2011
    crclawn
    This should be required reading with a test at the end before you can post on mtbr.com.
  • 06-18-2011
    jpeters
    That was great
  • 06-18-2011
    dodgeball2d
    Had I read this post first thing...so many of my questions would have been answered :D
  • 06-18-2011
    wiggy
    that brought a big old grin to my face
    great post
    joe
  • 06-18-2011
    JaxAR
    +1 to infinity

    Great post :thumbsup:
  • 06-18-2011
    The STIG
    yeah, thats a good read
  • 06-18-2011
    pfox90
    This needs to be made into a wall poster, I would definitely buy one and put it in my little bike working area.
  • 06-19-2011
    Delirious
    This made me smile. Thank for sharing.
  • 06-19-2011
    Dorf
    :thumbsup: I dig it!
  • 06-19-2011
    whoda*huck
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mhix01 View Post
    If you think your bike looks good, it does.
    If you like the way your bike rides, it’s an awesome bike.


    Bikes purchased at Wal-mart, Target, Costco, or K-mart are generally not the best bang for your buck.


    I love my costco bought Northrock XC6. It looks good, it rides good and so far, it's holding up fine.

    I do like the points he makes though, other than the one that implies my precious XC6 aint no good.

    "Generally not the best bang for your buck" is a long way from "aint (sic) no good".
    All very good advice given in a very PC manner, great post...needs to be a sticky.
  • 06-19-2011
    BeastMode
    awesome
  • 06-19-2011
    DeepseaDebo
    win
  • 06-19-2011
    Rocklion
    Awesome :thumbsup:
  • 06-19-2011
    gemini9
    haha. Excellent. Sticky!
  • 06-20-2011
    jeepseahawk
    I don't get it?
  • 06-22-2011
    saki2mi
    great post! thanks!
  • 06-22-2011
    zebrahum
    It's nice to be reminded that bikes and people who like bikes are good. Thanks for re-posting!
  • 06-22-2011
    Norm28
    that should be posted after some of the ridiculous arguments ive seen here. that would save a lot of people money and stress, Go have fun, i am!
  • 06-22-2011
    BLUEBEE07
    Great post, made me laugh....
  • 06-22-2011
    terrasmak
    Great post
  • 06-22-2011
    tim_w_sage
    :thumbsup::thumbsup:
  • 06-22-2011
    cjax
    Finally some sense.
  • 06-23-2011
    NDON
    Nice one! Tnx
  • 06-23-2011
    jerry26
    Awesome! HA
  • 06-23-2011
    pattongb
    Awesome, thank you! Maybe I will do my first race with my bike after all instead of borrowing one from a local shop...
  • 06-23-2011
    Glide the Clyde
    We can now post this as a sticky and close down the rest of the Beginner's Corner.
  • 06-23-2011
    demonlarry
    awesome
  • 06-23-2011
    Fat Clyde
    Well guess I don't need this forum anymore.... Just kidding... Is my bike cool? Lol!
  • 06-24-2011
    mb-matt
    Well said! A great reminder to keep it fun
  • 06-27-2011
    JPW0504
    thanks
  • 06-27-2011
    JPW0504
    thanks
  • 06-27-2011
    Skullfrog479
    Straight from the mouth of Yoda, this must have come.
  • 06-27-2011
    zskolb
    :thumbsup:
  • 06-27-2011
    nelzbycks
    Good one!
  • 06-29-2011
    ccain6205
    Great I am new and needed that!!
  • 06-30-2011
    icalebkim
    Best post ever, noobs, read that!
  • 06-30-2011
    Haligan78
    "Hey, tattooed and pierced long shorts wearin flat brim hat red bull drinkin white Oakley sportin rad person on your full suspension big hit bike – nice work out there."

    Hey!! I resemble that remark.....kind of. I'm not pierced, don't wear my hat flat brimmed, don't drink redbull and my bike is a hardtail.
    But I'm tattooed and wear long baggy shorts.....260 pound guys just don't look right in bike shorts...sorry it's true. LOL

    Great post though as mentioned before everybody should be required to read it.
  • 06-30-2011
    sanjuro
    wrong
  • 06-30-2011
    CHUM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sanjuro View Post
    wrong

    come at me bro!



    :d
  • 06-30-2011
    alexbiker1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pfox90 View Post
    This needs to be made into a wall poster, I would definitely buy one and put it in my little bike working area.

    Haha! same
  • 06-30-2011
    Koflach
    well said.
  • 06-30-2011
    TokageRider
    Hah, nice thread.

    Four more posts to go.
  • 06-30-2011
    rm86
    This is great
  • 07-04-2011
    RK17
    good read.
  • 07-05-2011
    RDOwens
    Nice post. As a noob, I appreciate it. It seems to me something like this can be written about any hobby. Starting out, one just feels overwhelmed. My wife has taught me to just pick a path and don't look back.

    Thanks for sharing.
  • 07-05-2011
    STT GUY
    Some good chuckles and wisdom in there, enjoyed it. Thanks for posting it up.
  • 07-05-2011
    mmacken
    Loved this! :thumbsup:
  • 07-06-2011
    oinker
    *chuckle*
  • 07-07-2011
    PA Castaway
    The ideas behind this can be well translated into any type of enthusiast web forum, nice work
  • 07-08-2011
    Skeg43
    Awesome post!
  • 07-08-2011
    fattybikejones
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smokinoak View Post
    If you are happy with your bike and it gets you off of the couch and on the trails,by all means,ride you ass off until something breaks and then replace it.

    Yepper!:thumbsup:
  • 07-09-2011
    wookv25
    Bravo!
  • 07-10-2011
    SouthernOak
    This is great, being a noob myself. I think everyone should read this from time to time.
  • 07-10-2011
    Highfive Bro
    Very nice post. Makes me happy.
  • 07-16-2011
    PrincessRachel
    Awesome, yes just what I needed to read! :thumbsup:
  • 07-16-2011
    OP4guy
    I learned a long time ago: If it works for you, it's good enough but always plan to make it better as you grow.
  • 07-18-2011
    kinsMT
    This. This right here.
  • 07-18-2011
    pkmffl
    So I shouldn't get clipless pedals?
  • 07-18-2011
    rafab
    Hey, great post! :thumbsup:
  • 07-19-2011
    j-curl
    Cool, now I just need to get a bike...
  • 07-19-2011
    Agent Koala
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by alexbiker1 View Post
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pfox90 View Post
    This needs to be made into a wall poster, I would definitely buy one and put it in my little bike working area.

    Haha! same

    Same˛ !
  • 07-19-2011
    BigMeanie33
    OP +1 :thumbsup:
  • 07-20-2011
    rongallant
    Nice
  • 07-20-2011
    918biker
    Very cool :):thumbsup:
  • 07-20-2011
    BZ Gal
    i appreciate this post! thank you!
  • 07-20-2011
    WildcatGuy5093
    Awesome post! This great to read for a new guy like me!
  • 07-20-2011
    phazan
    nice
  • 07-21-2011
    dirty_sohc
    Great read. Thanks
  • 02-08-2012
    marpilli
    I wanted to find this so I could pass it along to a friend. Figured there were enough new riders on here that someone could benefit from the thread bump.
  • 02-08-2012
    AZ
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by marpilli View Post
    I wanted to find this so I could pass it along to a friend. Figured there were enough new riders on here that someone could benefit from the thread bump.




    Heck yeah, maybe we can get CHUM p to sticky this?
  • 02-08-2012
    marpilli
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS View Post
    CHUM p

    :lol:
  • 02-08-2012
    AZ
    Its all part of my subversive scheme to over take him in the rep war so as I may rule the world ! ;)
  • 02-08-2012
    AZ
    Hey marpilli, look what got a sticky.

    Everyone reading this, make sure you thank CHUM for authoring this excellent thread and marpilli for bumping it. :thumbsup:
  • 02-08-2012
    monzie
    CHUMp wins at the Internet. I didn't see this the first go round; thanks for the bump Marpilli. Had a laugh and now must find all the redundant threads arguing over inanity and post this with the appropriate [/thread] tag.
  • 02-08-2012
    jperry34
    that was awesome
  • 02-09-2012
    Dummyrunner
    Sometimes we all need to read something like this to remind ourselves that everyone has their own story. Thanks for reminding me today. :cornut:
  • 02-09-2012
    wparti00
    Good to know
  • 02-09-2012
    Neumie
    New here, and laughed. Nice post.
  • 02-09-2012
    kimberleyturtle
    S'truth.

    missed it earlier so thanks to the OP and the bump for resurrecting it
  • 02-10-2012
    jfoto757
    good stuff here!
  • 02-11-2012
    LouisSA
    Agree
    Great Stuff
  • 02-11-2012
    BigEarn86
    Awesome
    This thread should be titled... NOOBS!...read this...EVERYONE ELSE!...read this too.

    Too many people that aren't noobs anymore could use a reminder of some of these pointer. Thanks:thumbsup:
  • 02-11-2012
    endless108
    great tips!
  • 02-12-2012
    ChasingTheSun
    nice
  • 02-12-2012
    grandmachine
    neato.
  • 02-14-2012
    tony48
    I appreciate this post and I think it exemplifies what we should focus on in this sport: FUN