ok i found what i think to be two pretty good bikes for the money , but i am not a expert so i would like some help the get the most bang for my buck.
fyi i plan on doing mostly road with some trail runs, but i would like a bike with good components that is light enough to do an occosional long ride.
it turns out the super v is actully an 01 model and he said he would sell it for less then 500. here is the 01 link
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