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    Mongoose Blackcomb Owners Only Please:)


    The fully loaded Mongoose Blackcomb is as tough as they come, with a 4-bar vertical spring dual suspension that just gobbles bumps for breakfast. EZ Fire shifters let you adjust to terrain changes with quick, precise shifting. And ProMax disc brakes provide sure stopping in even the muddiest, sloppiest conditions.

    Specifications:

    * Frame type: 4-bar vertical spring aluminum dual suspension frame
    * Frame material: Aluminum for light weight and durability
    * Suspension fork: RST Capa-T6; coil/MCU spring, non-adjustable 75mm
    * Rear suspension: Adjustable coil
    * Shifting: 24-speed Shimano gearing with EZ Fire shifters
    * Stem: 25.4 ahead stem
    * Handlebars: Alloy MTB rise
    * Front Derailleur: Shimano C050
    * Rear Derailleur: Shimano Altus
    * Brakes: Front and rear Promax mechanical Dual Disc
    * Wheels: 26" 36-spoke black anodized alloy rims; alloy QR disc hubs
    * Gears: Suntour XCC 28/38/48; Shimano HG30 11-28T
    * Tires: Kenda 26" x 2.1"
    * Pedals: Mongoose MTB
    * Seat: WTB Speed-V
    * MOZO Vibe E fork to smooth out front impacts

    <H2>Hey Mongoose Blackcomb owners.</H2> <B>I've been researching this bicycle and looking for your input. Upgrade information, change gearing, etc..Post a picture of your sweet ride.
    <I>Please don't reply to this thread if you're only just a LBS snob who doesn't like this bike. I've already heard everything from that "type" of person.
    Thank you Mongoose Blackcomb Owners, have a great ride

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    It's only $300 dollars dude. You don't need to research for 8 months to buy it, especially considering anything anyone tells you that you disagree with you just ignore. Go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nachomc


    It's only $300 dollars dude. You don't need to research for 8 months to buy it, especially considering anything anyone tells you that you disagree with you just ignore. Go away.
    <B>go break a leg</B>
    can you not read the subject?
    If you have no interest in this bicycle don't bother the thread man.
    I'll research anything for as long as I wish!!
    <I>A prime example of LBS snob attitude.</I>
    I'm glad people in my city don't have that type of attitude.

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    I don't like that bike.
    You can get a better bike at the Local Bike Shop.

    On edit: I found several nice Moongooses you can get at LBS.

    Teocali Super.



    Or something on a tighter budget.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle
    <B>go break a leg</B>




    Already got you beat..



    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle
    <I>A prime example of LSB snob attitude.</I>
    I'm glad people in my city don't have that type of attitude.
    It's LBS and I'm just glad you're not in my city.
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    Do you honestly think that anybody dumb enough to buy that bike would be able to power up a computer, let alone find their way to this website?
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    I think everyone who wears a helmit should carry around an old crank arm, then when you see someone without a helmit on, give them a good wack in the head. That'll teach them to flaut their helmit-less noggins out in public.

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    upNdown, meet KevinBicycle..
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    Would I be a snob if I told you "you could get a much better bike at an LBS for the same price"? If so well...

    You could get a much better bike at an LBS for the same price.

    (and it wont suck OR break the first time you take it out)
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    Guess I could be considered an "LBS snob" (every bike I've purchased since I was around 15 has been from an LBS)....but I am all about smoking deals found elsewhere.

    Case in point: my friend's Ironhorse. He purchased his Ironhorse hardtail from ***** Sporting Goods here in FL. Came with a stout (yet relatively light) steel frame, great components, and a great front fork for the package price. Price tag was maybe $20-40 more than what you are spending. That is one hell of a deal on a bike that will take whatever you can throw at it AND is pretty much infinitely upgradable. Ends up being a great starter bike that will grow with you.

    This Mongoose just reminds me of every Next or Schwinn full suspension bike I see rolling around my town. Most of them never see offroad duty yet their drivetrain is toast and the rear suspension severely sags. Most of the components on this bike are name brand, but bottom of the barrel and somewhat fragile. They don't leave much room for growth/expansion as your skill level increases. For $300-400 you honestly aren't going to find a quality brand new full suspension bike that will last through a season of off road adventures.

    In the end it is your dime and your life on the line. Do what you think is best. My .02
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    I'm glad you like the bike you have contemplated buying. The truth is you're not going to find many people out there in the world that absolutely adore this bike and have amazing things to say about it. Really, if you like it that much, just spend the money on it! After all it's a department store bike, it's "worth" just getting if you like it that much. Also, you should've posted this in other manufacturers to avoid flaming... which is already occurring. I'm not to sure who these LBS "snobs" are, but heck it's the truth, this bike is running Alivio, it's an ok beginner bike but nothing more. Anyways Good Day to you Sir...

    **Sits back and watches the flames roll in...**

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    Please don't reply to this thread if you're only just a LBS snob who doesn't like this bike. I've already heard everything from that "type" of person.
    Tha't's what I'm saying... "if you don't like this bike, please don't reply"

    I've heard people say that bicyclers are the nicest people...They haven't read these forums. Not on these forums. I bet these LBS snobs act like that on the trail too. Not on my trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle
    "if you don't like this bike, please don't reply"
    Thank you for proving my point. If someone doesn't agree with you, you don't want to listen. Just go buy the bike already since you're not going to listen to anything negative about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle
    Please don't reply to this thread if you're only just a LBS snob who doesn't like this bike. I've already heard everything from that "type" of person.
    Tha't's what I'm saying... "if you don't like this bike, please don't reply"

    I've heard people say that bicyclers are the nicest people...They haven't read these forums. Not on these forums. I bet these LBS snobs act like that on the trail too. Not on my trails.
    I'm not acting like a "snob" I am a very nice person if you just got to know me but I'm just trying to help you out too, if you like it that much just go out and get it! It's not the best bang for your buck or the best components or weight for a beginner bike, but hey it's your money, I don't want you to waste it... and please stop with the LBS stuff... I don't even shop at one...

    Anyways whatever I won't post anymore... just trying to help... I went down that road before and regretted it... just trying to help, get yourself a nice hardtail!
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    Sad thing is most people posting in here are trying to help you.
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    Your trails?

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle
    Please don't reply to this thread if you're only just a LBS snob who doesn't like this bike. I've already heard everything from that "type" of person.
    Tha't's what I'm saying... "if you don't like this bike, please don't reply"

    I've heard people say that bicyclers are the nicest people...They haven't read these forums. Not on these forums. I bet these LBS snobs act like that on the trail too. Not on my trails.
    I've ridden with a bunch of MORC members from Duluth. And based on your definition, they're most certainly "LBS" snobs. They don't ride department store bikes and they purchase their mountain bikes from bike specific dealers.

    I have no opinion on this bike other than it's not intended for off road use. Since this is the case, it's not a mountain bike. And this is a mountain bike forum. So I'm not sure why you're soliciting opinions about a sidewalk/paved trail bike on a mountain bike forum?

    A rock crawler and a Ford Taurus both have a motor, a steering wheel and 4 tires. I wouldn't use the Taurus on the Slickrock Trail in Moab. I wouldn't use a Rock Crawler on an Interstate road trip across Kansas. Two "cars" for two different purposes. I don't use my FS mountain bike to commute across town. I don't use my road bike on singletrack. I wouldn't spend money on the bike you're wanting people to approve because it doesn't have a real, intended use. It's a sidewalk bike with some mountain bike like features. It's impractical and illogical.

    So you and I are on the same page, I have two mountain bikes and one road bike. None of which I've purchased from my LBS.

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    Hi. I am not a LBS snob. I build my own bikes and maintain them myself. That being said, I propose that we do exactly as Kevin has asked. Don't respond to his thread. When he sees that there aren't any people to respond with reviews of his bike He will see what we are talking about.

    To Kevin,

    We are expressing our concerns based on our own experiences. We are trying to explain that cheap bikes like that are not servicable as off-road bikes. The $200 or whatever they are asking is not a huge investment. Buy the bike and prove us wrong. If it works and you can review your bike objectively then do it. You should just know that you are swimming against the tide of experience here. That being said, ride on and let's all have fun on our bikes. I love bikes!

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    ok, what I was trying to do here... if you would please refer to the original post.... was to gather information from Mongoose Blackcomb owners only. I'm researching information on this bicycle as well as a few others. But I was looking for input only from Mongoose Blackcomb owners.
    The LBS shoppers say "if you like it, hurry up and buy it, if you don't like it dis it, if you want a better bike go to a LBS." Did I mention that every LBS shopper says the same thing? I'm just simply trying to do the research on this bicycle. Sorry to sound silly for those of you who were truely just trying to be helpful, but I've already heard all of this. If I wanted to buy a bicycle at a LBS, I would. I can get one at cost. Anyway, as you can read here, I am simply looking for Mongoose Blackcomb owners to reply to this thread with their information.

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    If you can get a better bike for cost at an LBS, why are you so hard for this walmart bike?

    Also, if you've heard the same thing from everyone who cycles seriously, maybe you should take a step back, pull your head out and accept that other people know more about the subject than you.
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    Get real....

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle
    ok, what I was trying to do here... if you would please refer to the original post.... was to gather information from Mongoose Blackcomb owners only. I'm researching information on this bicycle as well as a few others. But I was looking for input only from Mongoose Blackcomb owners.
    The LBS shoppers say "if you like it, hurry up and buy it, if you don't like it dis it, if you want a better bike go to a LBS." Did I mention that every LBS shopper says the same thing? I'm just simply trying to do the research on this bicycle. Sorry to sound silly for those of you who were truely just trying to be helpful, but I've already heard all of this. If I wanted to buy a bicycle at a LBS, I would. I can get one at cost. Anyway, as you can read here, I am simply looking for Mongoose Blackcomb owners to reply to this thread with their information.

    First, suggesting that every LBS shopper says the same thing is simply incorrect.

    You're not "doing research on this bike". You're asking people on a mountain biking website to validate your opinion on a bike that isn't a mountain bike.

    You can get a bike from a LBS at cost? At cost? Really? Why are you looking to pay retail for a sidewalk bike if you can obtain a mountain bike at cost?

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    y'know, i was wrong.. ive been looking at that bike and have realized that its a pretty super ride. the welds look clean as hell, the suspension design is flawless, the components are unbelievably durable and reliable and the frame is a true work of art. If i had room for another bike, I would probably drive on down to walmart and throw down my sack of nickels and come home a happy boy. buy it and huck it off the biggest jump you can and show these LSB snobs they ain't all that. Git er done!!!!

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    wow!

    I don't think there are any "Mongoose Blackcomb Owners" on this entire forum... That is why you haven't gotten a response from one... I'm not an LBS snob, I order most of my parts online and tool away in my garage, but you are indeed better off NOT buying that thing... Everyone who has posted above atleast knows good components when they see them... I don't believe you could call those anywhere near mediocre components.

    ******my post is highly hypocritical since I have advocated (many times) not flaming other peoples choices of bikes... It is their own bike and they are going to ride it*****

    However, this pile of metalized vomit deserves to be flamed with the utmost disrespect! May an army of violent LBS snobs flame your crappy piece of crap back to the crappy Xmart it came from!

    I fart in your general direction... and now begone you silly Englishman or I shall taunt you a second time!
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    PS: is this OP legit???



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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle
    ok, what I was trying to do here... if you would please refer to the original post.... was to gather information from Mongoose Blackcomb owners only. I'm researching information on this bicycle as well as a few others. But I was looking for input only from Mongoose Blackcomb owners.
    The LBS shoppers say "if you like it, hurry up and buy it, if you don't like it dis it, if you want a better bike go to a LBS." Did I mention that every LBS shopper says the same thing? I'm just simply trying to do the research on this bicycle. Sorry to sound silly for those of you who were truely just trying to be helpful, but I've already heard all of this. If I wanted to buy a bicycle at a LBS, I would. I can get one at cost. Anyway, as you can read here, I am simply looking for Mongoose Blackcomb owners to reply to this thread with their information.
    Nobody on this site owns that bike or they would have replied. Buy it, take it for a ride and hopefully it will not break. Happy riding
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    I've been riding bicycle for over 30 years almost everyday. The only reason I go to the LBS is to visit with friends (that work there) or to pick up needed parts. I am trying not to buy a bike there. Alright we have purchased one Specialized Hard Rock there, but I will not buy a LBS bike for me to ride. Did I mention that I ride almost everyday?

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    Mistake #1: Telling people who don't own a certain POS bike to stay out of a thread located on a public forum dedicated to mountain bikers.

    Mistake #2. Calling people snobs.

    Mistake #3. Claiming you can get a better bike at wholesale, and not doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle
    I've been riding bicycle for over 30 years almost everyday. The only reason I go to the LBS is to visit with friends (that work there) or to pick up needed parts. I am trying not to buy a bike there. Alright we have purchased one Specialized Hard Rock there, but I will not buy a LBS bike for me to ride. Did I mention that I ride almost everyday?

    there is a reason why SRAM sells a rear Derailleur for $200... and that a pair of Avid Juicy 7's cost more than your whole bike... and that if you wreck a wheel you'll pay atleast half the price of the bike to replace it... and that your shifters will need constant adjusment... and blah blah blah...

    30yrs huh? have you taken it off any sweet jumps?

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    Kevin,

    I did not own this bike exactly, but I have had two bikes of very similar design (FS mongoose from walmart) with similar components.

    I bent the rims on the 1st bike on my trip out on just an easy trail. I didn't ride hard and didn't hit any rocks head on. Just a leisurely ride on an easy wide groomed trail in southeast Ohio.

    The 2nd bike was given to me by my brother when he moved. It was a FS mongoose that he paid $250 for at wally world. I was riding it in a state park. Hit one small ramp and got about 3 ft of air and when I landed the rear shock shattered into about 3 pieces and the seat post went off to the side and the back of my leg sliced across the seat post area. I had a cut (deep enough to require stitches!) from the back of my knee up to the bottom of my ass cheek. I couldn't ride the bike back the 1.5 miles to get to my jeep and had to walk the junker out while bleeding profusely. I never again road a department store bike. I am not a bike snob. I bought my first real bike from dick's (Iron horse) and road it all through college. I just recently bought a trek 4300 for the same price almost as what my brother paid for the mongoose that almost sliced my hamstring.

    I will be picking up a trek 6000 or 6500 in a month or two for around 700 (for the 6000) or 900 (for the 6500) plus 2 years free service and 10% off future accessories. There are a lot of perks to buying from the LBS. It's not snobbery. It's just economical and safe. I have saved probably over $100 in the past year with my 10% discount and I got better stuff than I could have got at Dick's or Walmart, so I really wouldn't have saved much money by going to a box store.

    Kevin I am not trying to be a jerk by any means and most of the people here are not trying to be *******s. Everyone just has road a walmart bike off road and it's very dangerous and they just want to safe you money and bodily harm/injury.

    Sorry to post here without owning the specific bike you mentioned, but with 2 wally world mongoose bikes in my past, I think I can voice a pretty seasoned opinion on this subject.

    Good luck with whatever your purchase is and be careful.

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    Just one question, Kevin. What do you have against LBS's. You have friends that work there and you refuse to buy a bike from them? I just don't understand. You don't have to patronize a shop to enjoy our sport, but having reliable equipment is key to continuing your love affair with bikes. LBS's are just a convenient source of quality equipment.

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    i think it's a troll...
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    Quote Originally Posted by havnmonkey
    i think it's a troll...
    I was thinking that earlier actually.

    You should change your sig to say buy the mongoose blackcomb
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    Quote Originally Posted by havnmonkey
    i think it's a troll...
    I would bet on it. If someone had 30 years of experience they would not be considering a wal-mart bike and they would just shop at another bike shop or buy online. That's what I would do now and I've only been seriously in the sport a couple of years.
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    and...

    Quote Originally Posted by nachomc
    I was thinking that earlier actually.

    You should change your sig to say buy the mongoose blackcomb
    you can take it off some sweet jumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle
    I've heard people say that bicyclers are the nicest people...They haven't read these forums. Not on these forums. I bet these LBS snobs act like that on the trail too. Not on my trails.
    Just to prove I'm not a "LBS snob" that acts like a jackarse on the trail I'll make sure I stop enjoying my fun, relaxing, stress relieving ride to pull out my first aid kit and tend to your wounds while waiting on a rescue copter because your wonderful "not intended for offroad use" toy basically exploded on the trail and caused a massive wreck....

    O wait....I'd do that for anyone anyway. Darn, guess I'm not doing anything special then, other than trying to keep you from being in that situation to begin with...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nachomc
    You should change your sig to say buy the mongoose blackcomb
    heh heh heh
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    I do have a couple of LBS super light road bikes Miyata and a Trek, but I didn't purchase either brand new at a LBS and don't ride either of them much. Purchased them used and debadged them so that they don't look so LBSish. I prefer to just ride my rigid MTN bicycle that I parted together ten years ago. That is one thing I like about the way the Blockcomb looks, unique.and LBS people will know that it's not a LBS bicycle.




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    no get your own!!!
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    Purchased them used and debadged them so that they don't look so LBSish.
    There it is! The hypocritical statement I was waiting for. You call people bike snobs, but yet by trying to be "unique" or "special" you think you are better than everyone else.

    It's like the people who own mac computers and then look down their noses on people who don't and then you have the people who own pc's and look down on Mac users and call mac users "snobs", "richies", or "trendies"

    You keep tauting your experience. If I had that much experience I'd just buy the damn bike and try it myself. Just don't hate people for going to their LBS.

    I go to them because I like to support local businesses and they sell good stuff at comparable prices that I can get them online.

    I always price compare and my LBS is always dead on with any internet deal I can scare up and they usually price match for me because they know I bring them a lot of business.

    Please don't be a hater. Buy the bike. For the price you can easily try it out, and if you hate you can take it to the metal scrapper and get some cash back. It's what I did with my 2 mongoose wally world bikes I destroyed!

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    So you're a non-conformist and want to be an individual?

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    Yea and you can take the Blackcomb off some sweet jumps...

    Just make sure you videotape them for proof of this bikes superiority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by havnmonkey
    heh heh heh
    :wq

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    Kevin, sorry if you have taken offense to any of these remarks in this, or the other thread. I think any attitude you percieved from the posters is mostly because we are all concerned for your safety and don't want to see you spend money on something substandard. Not because you are being pushed into buying from an LBS.

    You don't have to buy from an LBS if that is your deal. I bought my most recent bike online, and won't hesitate to buy from the company again. And I work in a bike shop. Does that make me a bike snob, I dunno. Does that make me anti LBS, no it makes me "anti spend too much money".
    Look, whatever happens, don't fight the mountain.

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    I might like the way a fresh, steaming pile of poo looks sitting on my neighbors freshly cut grass silhouetted by an early spring sunrise... but that doesn't mean I'm going to ride it down the local trail...
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    We're on opposite ends of the spectrum....

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle
    I do have a couple of LBS super light road bikes Miyata and a Trek, but I didn't purchase either brand new at a LBS and don't ride either of them much. Purchased them used and debadged them so that they don't look so LBSish. I prefer to just ride my rigid MTN bicycle that I parted together ten years ago. That is one thing I like about the way the Blockcomb looks, unique.and LBS people will know that it's not a LBS bicycle.




    hvnmonkey, I loved that movie!!
    are you gonna finish your tots? Can I have em?
    So you have a couple nice bikes that you took the labeling off so that you could look urban and core (in Duluth)? Wow, you're cool and urban hip. If you were to only ride fixed and wear nothing but wool and flannel, you'd be the height of hip.

    When I lived in Chicago and commuted, I had a POS bike that I wrapped in duct tape so that it looked like a bigger POS with the hope that it wouldn't get jacked with or stolen. So that get me in to the urban hip club?

    One of my mountain bikes has no badges at all. It cost me a tad more than $300 but hopefully that gets me in to the urban hip club.

    Seriously, if you want opinions good opinions on a crappy bike, you're not in the right place.
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    That's a sweet bike, Ken
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    Now that's a sweet looking set o' spinners!!! just gave me some inspiration... thanks Ken!!!
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    what kinda frame is that ken

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    Some more if you like....

    Quote Originally Posted by havnmonkey
    Now that's a sweet looking set o' spinners!!! just gave me some inspiration... thanks Ken!!!
    And to keep on topic, a question. Would you ride a Mongoose Blackcomb on this trail.....
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    This one?

    Where's Waldo....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken in KC
    And to keep on topic, a question. Would you ride a Mongoose Blackcomb on this trail.....
    I sure as hell wouldn't.
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    How about this one?

    Perhaps? Maybe? How long would it last?
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    Quote Originally Posted by upNdown
    Do you honestly think that anybody dumb enough to buy that bike would be able to power up a computer, let alone find their way to this website?
    bwahhhhaaahahaha!

    i don't think theres a person on mtbr that has a blackcomb...or anyone that admits to having one!

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    Finally... A Blackcomb worthy trail...

    Yes? Sure? Except this is the start of a pretty epic trail.....
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    Get real....

    As in "real" mountain biking. A department store bike won't hold up at 30+ mph down rocky singletrack....
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    Did some research for Kevin

    Kevin-

    I did a search for Mongoose Blackcomb for ya.....here are topics that might be of interest to you:

    I got a Mongoose Blackcomb

    http://forums.mtbr.com/sitemap/t-375411.html

    Just the two. Well and yours, but that does not count.

    Also please note that there are no reviews of this bike in the MTBR review section. That in itself speaks volumes to me. The silence is deafening.

    But as others have said....you have already made up your mind, so if you want this bike, go pick it up. Have fun and come back and tell us your experiences.

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    Is the point made?

    I can go on, if you like? This is mountain biking.
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    KevinTroll........that bike was made for you, enjoy
    DON'T TELL ME I'M STILL ON THAT FECKIN' ISLAND! ....

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    Retrotec...

    Quote Originally Posted by EclipseRoadie
    what kinda frame is that ken
    Made by Curtis Inglis. He builds a sweet bike....

    http://ingliscycles.com/bikes/retrotec_home.php
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    Let's discuss business ethics for a minute. People criticize Specialized (not sparking up that debate), but Wal-mart is far worse. The way they treat their employees (both in terms of pay as well as benefits) is horrendous.

    It appears that you have an aversion to "LBS bikes" because of the reputation you seem to think they give you. While at the same time you'll proudly display your 45# Wal-mart bike which represents everything negative Wal-mart stands for. So forgive us "LBS snobs" who don't spend $300 supporting the Wal-mart machine.

    I hope you enjoy riding your new Blackcomb on the paved trails in your area. Don't expect to take it up any hills. It's not geared for it...

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    Ok guys, don't kill me for posting a link to another bike forum but this will help Mr. Bicycle with the information he desires. It actually has posts from people who bought the Mongoose Blackcomb and some of the reviews are actually in favor of it.

    http://forums.bicycling.com/eve/foru...37/m/604106037

    Two years ago when I was looking to get back into cycling I knew I wanted an FS bike so I went to every place in town that sold bikes including Target and Walmart. I looked at the Blackcomb and the XR 250 before heading to the dreaded LBS and being suckered into buying a nice Haro Shift. The LBS didn't tell me that I'd fall in love with mountain biking and spend lots of money on accessories and needless upgrades (needless for my kind of riding anyways) when I could have bought the Blackcomb and hated everything about it then I would have given up on the sport and actually have some money in the bank. And for the record I buy some things online and some things at my LBS just because I appreciate the knowledge they have and that they have passed it on to me freely.

    Man, I wish I'd thought of a snappy online name like Mr. Bicycle. Then I could be MikeBike and I'm sure I'd have a lot more friends on this site. Alas!

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    give it up guys, its a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle
    ok, what I was trying to do here... if you would please refer to the original post.... was to gather information from Mongoose Blackcomb owners only. I'm researching information on this bicycle as well as a few others. But I was looking for input only from Mongoose Blackcomb owners.
    The LBS shoppers say "if you like it, hurry up and buy it, if you don't like it dis it, if you want a better bike go to a LBS." Did I mention that every LBS shopper says the same thing? I'm just simply trying to do the research on this bicycle. Sorry to sound silly for those of you who were truely just trying to be helpful, but I've already heard all of this. If I wanted to buy a bicycle at a LBS, I would. I can get one at cost. Anyway, as you can read here, I am simply looking for Mongoose Blackcomb owners to reply to this thread with their information.
    You don't seem to want to listen to anything but positive things about this bike, so why don't you just go buy it, ride it, then come back for a real bike when you're ready to admit we were right about it. My best riding buddy has one of these. I've ridden it. The front fork is shot, the disc brakes suck worse than the V-brakes on my trek, the rear suspension bobs with every pedal stroke and wastes all your energy, both of the wheels go out of true with the slightest bump, the pedals broke the 2nd time he rode it, the bottom bracket seal is oozing grease, and he doesn't even ride it much. Still want one?

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    Pay the toll or you shall be smashed by the Troll on his new Mongoose Blackcomb... Har Har Har
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken in KC
    Yes? Sure? Except this is the start of a pretty epic trail.....
    I think this trail is probably a bit better for the blackcomb..

    :wq

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    Actually I've heard Blackcombs can handle the sweet FR sections found in your local...

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    Sounds like you just want the frame. So if you can justify spending $300 bucks on a frame then upgrade everything around it go ahead (but I don't know anything at all).
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    For someone who has been riding 30 years he seems to be doing way too much research into this purchase. I have not even been alive for 30 years yet I am able to tell certain things about a bike before I research extensively. Only after it passes my initial inspection phase and I get serious about it do i start asking for owner reviews.

    Are we allowed to recommend other forums where maybe his research would be better conducted?

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    I believe this is what you're looking for: (all compliments of Walmart's website)
    http://www.walmart.com/catalog/allRe...uct_id=4698935

    "I have this bike for a couple days i got in new hampshire but im from maine it came all assembled it rides great considering i live in maine it's very rough trails great on snowmobile trails handles great good spension takes in every bump it's a ecellent bike i would recomend anyone to this bike"

    "The bike is great and rides very nicely. We have gotten many compliments on it."

    "This bike was better built than I expected for the money. Solid built and easy to adjust. My only unresolved issue is that it came with front brake pads so the front brake dosen't do anything. But you rarely use the front brake anyway so I am not to worried. I am working with Wal-Mart now to resolve this. Other than that is runs smooth, shifts easy and is a joy to ride."

    There you go. Lot's of great reviews from real-life blackcomb owners.
    Enjoy!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by unezridr
    I believe this is what you're looking for: (all compliments of Walmart's website)
    http://www.walmart.com/catalog/allRe...uct_id=4698935

    "I have this bike for a couple days i got in new hampshire but im from maine it came all assembled it rides great considering i live in maine it's very rough trails great on snowmobile trails handles great good spension takes in every bump it's a ecellent bike i would recomend anyone to this bike"

    "The bike is great and rides very nicely. We have gotten many compliments on it."

    "This bike was better built than I expected for the money. Solid built and easy to adjust. My only unresolved issue is that it came with front brake pads so the front brake dosen't do anything. But you rarely use the front brake anyway so I am not to worried. I am working with Wal-Mart now to resolve this. Other than that is runs smooth, shifts easy and is a joy to ride."

    There you go. Lot's of great reviews from real-life blackcomb owners.
    Enjoy!!!
    Wow, simply excellent. I wish we had such great reviews here on MTBR.

    I can tell from those reviews that those guys know what they are talking about. I bet they have been riding bikes for 30 years just like the OP

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    Quote Originally Posted by unezridr
    I believe this is what you're looking for: (all compliments of Walmart's website)
    http://www.walmart.com/catalog/allRe...uct_id=4698935

    "I have this bike for a couple days i got in new hampshire but im from maine it came all assembled it rides great considering i live in maine it's very rough trails great on snowmobile trails handles great good spension takes in every bump it's a ecellent bike i would recomend anyone to this bike"

    "The bike is great and rides very nicely. We have gotten many compliments on it."

    "This bike was better built than I expected for the money. Solid built and easy to adjust. My only unresolved issue is that it came with front brake pads so the front brake dosen't do anything. But you rarely use the front brake anyway so I am not to worried. I am working with Wal-Mart now to resolve this. Other than that is runs smooth, shifts easy and is a joy to ride."

    There you go. Lot's of great reviews from real-life blackcomb owners.
    Enjoy!!!
    ...but you rarely use the front brake anyway.....

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    I rode a guy's Wal-Mart Mongoose FS (not Blackcomb) on my local trail which isn't very rocky or technical. I hate to say it but that thing sucked. The suspension didn't feel good at all and zapped all of my energy. It was heavy and it didn't shift very well.

    I'm not an owner but for $300-$400 buy a Forge Sawback 5 HT from www.target.com if you don't want to go to a shop. It's a much, much better bike but just don't get the FS version as cheap FS bikes blow: http://www.forgebikes.com/saw5blu.asp

    There are several threads extolling the virtues of this bike right here on mtbr.com

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    Yeah I about pissed my pants when I read the "you rarely use the front brake anyway"

    No you don't use the front brake on your local roads and bike paths.

    hahahah

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    I was more of a fan of the review mentioning the good "spension" of the "ecellent bike"

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    Quote Originally Posted by some dude reviewing a blackcomb on the walmart site
    My only unresolved issue is that it came with front brake pads so the front brake dosen't do anything. But you rarely use the front brake anyway so I am not to worried. Enjoy!!!
    Of course you don't use the front brakes if it "came with front brake pads".

    You would use the front brakes if it didn't come with front brake pads...wait a minute....huh?

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    thought you all would appreciate those comments.

    you should check out the link for some good laughs.

    here's another (sorry they're screaming):

    PURCHASED THIS PRODUCT RIGHT FROM THE STORE RODE IT HOME HIT ALL DIRT ROADS, BUMPS AND HILLS IT MEETS ALL THAT I EXPECTED IT TO DO. MONGOOSE MADE A PERFECT BIKE FOR THE RIGHT PRICE. A FEW OF MY BIKE FRIENDS HAVE MADE THE PURCHASE OF THE SAME BIKE BUT DIFFERENT COLORS SO LOOK OUT FOR US.

    indeed i will...
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    Set the whole LBS issue aside. My LBS is expensive and the service is good not great. I buy some things there, some used, some online, etc. Leave LBS out of it for now.

    Kevin, if you are actually serious about this bike and want serious advice, pick through the less obnoxious posts above and realize a few things.

    Maybe you came from an old BMX background when Mongoose was a respected brand. They were purchased by Pacific bicycles and are not the same. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongoose_(bicycles) They make a few high-end bikes that are used by their race team. The vast majority of their products are mass-market junk.

    The ONLY positive thing I can think of to say about the Mongoose Blackcomb is that YOU like the way it looks. Aside from that, it is an absolute wast of money and downright dangerous to ride off road. I have seen several of these in person and they are junk. The welds are crappy, the fasteners are cheap and rust quickly, etc. Everything about the bike is designed to make it look flashy and minimize cost for the maker and seller. Think about the things you can't see - bearings, fork seals, the internal casting of the fork crown. Big, expensive bike manufacturers are fond of using mid-grade bottom brackets to shave a few bucks here and there.

    Now think about Mongoose and Wal-Mart and what kind of corners they will cut. Everything on the bike is about quick, dirty and cheap manufacture. Low precision bearings, soft metals, poor QC for hole alignment. Hell, I bet if you took 100 Blackcombs and stripped the paint off their frames, you'd find a number of them with pre-paint cracks in the tubing and "whoopsie" holes stuffed with filler.

    By the time you finish "upgrading" anything of significance on this bike, you've spent another $200-300 and could have bought a bike that was of decent quality to begin with. As they say, no matter how hard you try, you can't polish a turd. It just happens that Mongoose and Wal Mart wrapped this one in shiny aluminum to fool unsuspecting customers.

    You can get a real, high quality full suspension mountain bike for $300-500 by scanning your local classifieds, craigslist and eBay. Sometimes you might even find something on super-closeout at your (I'm going to say it) LBS.

    You can then use this bike to ride trails, hit a few jumps, etc. It will not disintegrate on you the way the Blackcomb will. Good luck if this is a serious question. F U if you're just here to troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StompinStu
    ...but you rarely use the front brake anyway.....
    Oh man, that's great, I missed that when I was reading those reviews.

    I'm going to stop at my closest Wal-Mart after work and see if they have this bike, I'm curious to see one in the flesh.

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    Honestly that post summed it all up. If he is not a troll he will see what we are saying

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    Gosh, there sure are a lot of replies here, only for a bicycle that most of the posters here are not in favor of. I have only been researching information for only about a week. Some posters here sound sincerely like lower level sales people "you've made up your mind, if you like it, hurry up and go buy it already!!!". Wherever that came from? I"M STILL LOOKING.
    Anyway <B>I really do appreciate all of the help from people here that are being helpful. Thank you.</B> For the smart alec and rude ones.... well, I guess you run into one of those off line once and a while too (just not as often).
    I'm also researching a FS Mongoose DH, a FS Schwinn S 40 and someone mentioned Forge bicycles. I have been reseaching the Sawback 7.xx it's a FS. I'm not shopping for a rigid. I already have a rigid and want a FS. I'm going to put street tires on my rigid and just use the rigid for street transportation and the FS will be just for trail adventures. I've been thinking about giving up fossil fuel powered transportation all together. Sorry oil buddies.


    <HR ALIGN=CENTER SIZE=1 WIDTH=100%><SMALL><I>Have you noticed that some people treat politics like religiion? No matter how much you don't want to hear about someones religion or political views, they're going to spew it out like a desperate salesperson anyway. Then if you don't agree with their views, they will get mad and defensive, and even offensive... just smile and say "you're funny"</I></SMALL>
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    ta da! It's back... the Sultan of Swing, the most righteous of rides, the king of the crowd, the most bedazzling of bikes, the ultimate in offroading perfection, the mayhem bringer to the mountains, it eats young schoolchildren for breakfast, the Marty McFly of MTB's, the one and only Hummer Mountain Bike!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by StompinStu
    ...but you rarely use the front brake anyway.....
    that line says it all
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    Quote Originally Posted by unezridr
    thought you all would appreciate those comments.

    you should check out the link for some good laughs.

    here's another (sorry they're screaming):

    PURCHASED THIS PRODUCT RIGHT FROM THE STORE RODE IT HOME HIT ALL DIRT ROADS, BUMPS AND HILLS IT MEETS ALL THAT I EXPECTED IT TO DO. MONGOOSE MADE A PERFECT BIKE FOR THE RIGHT PRICE. A FEW OF MY BIKE FRIENDS HAVE MADE THE PURCHASE OF THE SAME BIKE BUT DIFFERENT COLORS SO LOOK OUT FOR US.

    indeed i will...
    I cracked up when I read this lmao!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle

    The fully loaded Mongoose Blackcomb is as tough as they come, with a 4-bar vertical spring dual suspension that just gobbles bumps for breakfast. EZ Fire shifters let you adjust to terrain changes with quick, precise shifting. And ProMax disc brakes provide sure stopping in even the muddiest, sloppiest conditions.

    Specifications:

    * Frame type: 4-bar vertical spring aluminum dual suspension frame
    * Frame material: Aluminum for light weight and durability
    * Suspension fork: RST Capa-T6; coil/MCU spring, non-adjustable 75mm
    * Rear suspension: Adjustable coil
    * Shifting: 24-speed Shimano gearing with EZ Fire shifters
    * Stem: 25.4 ahead stem
    * Handlebars: Alloy MTB rise
    * Front Derailleur: Shimano C050
    * Rear Derailleur: Shimano Altus
    * Brakes: Front and rear Promax mechanical Dual Disc
    * Wheels: 26" 36-spoke black anodized alloy rims; alloy QR disc hubs
    * Gears: Suntour XCC 28/38/48; Shimano HG30 11-28T
    * Tires: Kenda 26" x 2.1"
    * Pedals: Mongoose MTB
    * Seat: WTB Speed-V
    * MOZO Vibe E fork to smooth out front impacts

    <H2>Hey Mongoose Blackcomb owners.</H2> <B>I've been researching this bicycle and looking for your input. Upgrade information, change gearing, etc..Post a picture of your sweet ride.
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    Issue 1- Frame size. This bike only comes in one size - medium. Are you 5'10" with a 32" inseam? If not, it won't fit you.

    Issue 2- Adjustable suspension. The fork is non-adjustable and the shock has preload only. Do you weigh around 160 lbs? If you're over or under that weight, the very limited performance of the stock suspension will get even worse.

    Issue 3- Gearing. The small chainring is 28 teeth, and the largest rear cog is also 28 teeth. A 1:1 low gear is hardly adequate for a 40 lb bike. Upgrading these parts could cost well over $100.

    Do you want to hear isuues 4-10?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpee
    I rode a guy's Wal-Mart Mongoose FS (not Blackcomb) on my local trail which isn't very rocky or technical. I hate to say it but that thing sucked. The suspension didn't feel good at all and zapped all of my energy. It was heavy and it didn't shift very well.

    I'm not an owner but for $300-$400 buy a Forge Sawback 5 HT from www.target.com if you don't want to go to a shop. It's a much, much better bike but just don't get the FS version as cheap FS bikes blow: http://www.forgebikes.com/saw5blu.asp

    There are several threads extolling the virtues of this bike right here on mtbr.com
    That Forge isn't spec'd horribly, but I am suprised that while paying attention to having a bike with low end but quality parts, the marketing guru who thought this bike up didn't realize that not everyone is 5' 10" tall. One size only? PLEAZZZZZE

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    I'm not trying to fan the flames or anything but this is from the Blackcomb Team DH reviews on the Walmart website:

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcomb Team DH reviewer
    The only gripe I have about this bike is for the money that you pay for this bike, it doesn't even come with a kick stand. I know this is a downhill bike, but I'm sure you need to leave it unattended at some point don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpee
    I'm not trying to fan the flames or anything but this is from the Blackcomb Team DH reviews on the Walmart website:

    This keeps getting better and better.

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    Yes, this is what I love about the forums! One innocent click at the end of my lunch hour...
    20 minutes later my sides hurts and I have tears streaming down my cheeks. Thank you, thank you to everybody who has contributed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanetti
    Issue 3- Gearing. The small chainring is 28 teeth, and the largest rear cog is also 28 teeth. A 1:1 low gear is hardly adequate for a 40 lb bike. Upgrading these parts could cost well over $100.
    Do you want to hear isuues 4-10?
    On the Mongoose Blackcomb, the only thing I would upgrade right away would be the 28T chainring and the rear shock.
    Shimano Deore LX M580 22T Chainring cost $9.99
    Rock Shox Coupe Deluxe cost ???

    Issues 4-10? Sure, if you want to type it out. I'm collecting as much research as possible. Like I mentioned, I'm not deciding on a bicycle yet. I'm going to be researching for quite some time before making any decision on one or another. I already have a rigid and ride everyday. I appreciate the information.

    Hey, there's that HUMMER folding bicycle!! LOL I saw that one this winter at a local sporting goods store. Perfect for the trailer queen, or keep one in the automobile trunk or the back of the Hummer H2. I would guess that the weak point of that bicycle would be the hinge?
    It would probably be good for the city apartment dweller type person. Make it easy for them on the elevator.

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    lol. I think you just have had some bad blood in the past with LBS' and the brand name bicycles.

    What do you want in a bike? Because many of the posters in this topic have different priorities than you. They would rather have something that is cost effective, durable, yet light enough, has resale value, and is a good fit for them. If you don't want any of these things, tell us what you do want.

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    "I added handle bar stem extension $24 - 5 onces). I replaced the steel handle bar stem (2007 Model - 2008 has alloy stem) to save 5 onces. I replaced the steel kickstand with alloy and saved another 5 onces. In as much as the frame looks bullet proof, I may punch it full of holes (hole saw) to save some weight. I feel this is a good bike to ride or a place to start building."

    My Favorite comment from the dirtrag reviewers.

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    all the research you need to do is right here chief: click and read this

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle
    On the Mongoose Blackcomb, the only thing I would upgrade right away would be the 28T chainring and the rear shock.
    Shimano Deore LX M580 22T Chainring cost $9.99
    I think you'll find the chainrings on the stock crank are welded together and not easy to replace. And even if you could, you'd exceed the capacity of the front derailleur. They're usually limited to a 22 tooth difference between small and large chainrings. 48 - 22 = 26.

    The solution would be a new crank and compatible bottom bracket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinBicycle
    On the Mongoose Blackcomb, the only thing I would upgrade right away would be the 28T chainring and the rear shock.
    Shimano Deore LX M580 22T Chainring cost $9.99
    You wont be able to replace a chainring on that bike. It'll be riveted or welded into place.

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    If you really want a bottom end full suspension bike, check this out.
    http://www.ibexbikes.com/Bikes/IGN-1-Details.html
    Its light years ahead of that Mongoose, and won't fall apart the first time you ride it.

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    I really appreciate the effort members made to respond to this guy. However, I didn't bother to read them because they are falling on troll ears. I skip straight to his posts to continue to get great laughs. "I don't want it looking LBSish". LOL!.

    Honestly, the frame alone on that Mongoose screams, "Look at my retail store bike! 12 year old kids love the look of it, cause it's cool looking!"

    Anyway, funny that you guys bother to post helpful information to someone that clearly is trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwuk
    I really appreciate the effort members made to respond to this guy. However, I didn't bother to read them because they are falling on troll ears. I skip straight to his posts to continue to get great laughs. "I don't want it looking LBSish". LOL!.

    Honestly, the frame alone on that Mongoose screams, "Look at my retail store bike! 12 year old kids love the look of it, cause it's cool looking!"

    Anyway, funny that you guys bother to post helpful information to someone that clearly is trolling.
    trolls don't ride for 30 years everyday dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastale
    trolls don't ride for 30 years everyday dude
    LMAO! Good point.

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    I just thought of a great idea! You should swing by the local elementary and middle schools and ask the kids there what they think of the bike! It is still pretty close to christmas so I am sure there are a couple of those bikes still holding together that haven't been ridden into the ground by those kids. Just make sure no parents see you approaching their sons and daughters...

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    Quote Originally Posted by magarnigel
    I just thought of a great idea! You should swing by the local elementary and middle schools and ask the kids there what they think of the bike! It is still pretty close to christmas so I am sure there are a couple of those bikes still holding together that haven't been ridden into the ground by those kids. Just make sure no parents see you approaching their sons and daughters...
    sorry for the name calling but,
    <H1>You are a sicko</H!>

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    Does anyone know if the Mongoose Blackcomb bicycle has the chainset gears as one piece welded together, riveted together, or bolted together like many bicycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reactiontime89
    If you really want a bottom end full suspension bike, check this out.
    http://www.ibexbikes.com/Bikes/IGN-1-Details.html.
    OMG Now you've done it! The Insane Clown Posse will be all over you before you know what has hit you. Not to mention the Head Clown himself.

    Dogonfr....where are you???


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