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    knee pain

    I assuming it will get better with more miles and frequency I ride but just curious if anyone who has gotten into riding a bike again in there 30's deals with knee pain. I am not referring to the long distance ride type but the immediate type were you just got on the bike for a block or two.

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    Most likely you need to adjust the fit of your bike in some way... I suggest trying one adjustment at a time, testing and reverting to the old position if there is no improvement- here's a link that describes some common solutions: Bike Fitting Specialists - Cycling Knee Pain

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    Ok that is what i was hoping someone would suggest. I wouldn't be surprised as this bike was last setup when j was 16-18, and i am 32 now. I will see if I can get someone to help me measure things first.

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    Most likely saddle height and or possibly shredding in to high of a gear.
    I had knee problems with my road bike when I first got it, I then adjusted the saddle to fit my height / leg extension and that eliminated the sharp pain in my knee Immediately.
    What did you put in that sandwich?

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    I did measure the thigh to calf angle and I got 87 deg. I think mine might just be from lack or movement for allot of years. I get a similar feeling when running the stairs at work. Plus I have only been back on the bike for 3 times now ad they were for 2x 15 min, and one 23 min rides.

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    I can tell you it is important to warm up properly, and not push hard until the joint are well lubricated. also, be sure your seat height is correct. I had knee surgery, and was able to ride after this procedure with zero knee pain. I can get knee pain if I try to, by not warming up, or improper seat height, but generally no pain after rides. Only time I do get pain is extremely long rides with hike-a-bike involved.

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    OK ill try changing seat height when I get back home. Should I not fret over how my leg extension is.
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    just turned 36 and started having some issues with pain below my knee cap.

    Tend to get the pain when...
    -rides that are longer than 30-45 minutes
    -rides with abrupt climbs as i like to mash my way up...instead of downshifting
    -riding with my seat too low

    i am on a break for a few weeks to rest up the old knees + IT band problem from running.

    When i get back...i'll ease in the miles, downshift more often and ride with a higher seat height.
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    Did you have any past injury with your knee? If not, I would second emo to their advices. Warm up and have your ride posture adjusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbansniper View Post
    just turned 36 and started having some issues with pain below my knee cap.

    Tend to get the pain when...
    -rides that are longer than 30-45 minutes
    -rides with abrupt climbs as i like to mash my way up...instead of downshifting
    -riding with my seat too low

    i am on a break for a few weeks to rest up the old knees + IT band problem from running.

    When i get back...i'll ease in the miles, downshift more often and ride with a higher seat height.
    Pain below knee cap on front of leg or on back of leg? If it is on the high part of your calf, not uncommon particularly if you are pushing yourself to pedal harder/faster. Might be wise to ease up on the gearing a bit for climbs to see if it lessens the pain. Not sure if you sit and mash or not... standing and pedaling some of the time can also help.

    I'm 46 and had ACL replacement surgery (using 1/3rd of my patellar tendon) 8 years ago. Rehab took a relatively long ~1.5 years and I haven't had any knee discomfort to speak of since then. This year I hope to exceed 3,000 miles on my bikes and added a single speed 29er to my quiver ~6 months ago. Lots of folks warned me about knee pain from SS riding... hasn't occurred thus far.

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    I don't think I am trying to push too hard but I may be wrong about what some consider pushing. I am only doing an average of 10-11mph when I can get out. The pain is starting within the first few blocks, not miles I have only been able to get 2-3 miles before my knees are to sore. I found a few fitting tips I am going to try but I think it is just lack of usage that is my problem(at this time).

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    It is below the knee in the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scribble79 View Post
    It is below the knee in the front.
    Common fitting wisdom is that if the pain is in the front of your knee, raise the saddle. Also, I suspect that you may be using too high a gear. In my experience, 80-100 rpm is much easier on the knees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scribble79 View Post
    I don't think I am trying to push too hard but I may be wrong about what some consider pushing. I am only doing an average of 10-11mph when I can get out. The pain is starting within the first few blocks, not miles I have only been able to get 2-3 miles before my knees are to sore. I found a few fitting tips I am going to try but I think it is just lack of usage that is my problem(at this time).
    You have a big problem....

    Knee pain after a couple of blocks is not good.

    Over the years you loose range of motion to get it back is a slow process.

    I would drop the saddle so that the leg is not quite extend 87 degrees is extended...

    I would pedal at a high cadence and very low load....if it hurts stop....you know how far you can get....

    keep doing it...

    Oh yeah and go get a bike fitting, or check out a physio.

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    OK so another question I saw something on another cycling site about measurments.

    tip of elbow to middle finger measures saddle front to stem, saddle under arm pit and middle finger touching the top of the bottom bracket. Is there any validity to this?

    I am looking at a fitting but the cost is a little much right now with a newborn and the wife is still off of work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffscott View Post
    You have a big problem....

    Knee pain after a couple of blocks is not good.

    Over the years you loose range of motion to get it back is a slow process.

    I would drop the saddle so that the leg is not quite extend 87 degrees is extended...

    I would pedal at a high cadence and very low load....if it hurts stop....you know how far you can get..

    keep doing it...

    Oh yeah and go get a bike fitting, or check out a physio.
    I am still new to riding so please bare with me. When you say a higher cadence and very low load..... I am thinking you are saying gear down to were the pedals are turning allot but there is not a real momentum happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scribble79 View Post
    I am still new to riding so please bare with me. When you say a higher cadence and very low load..... I am thinking you are saying gear down to were the pedals are turning allot but there is not a real momentum happening.
    Yes ride in a low gear and pedal at 90 rpm or faster. this will mean you are not going very fast....

    Who cares if your knee dosn't hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scribble79 View Post
    OK so another question I saw something on another cycling site about measurments.

    tip of elbow to middle finger measures saddle front to stem, saddle under arm pit and middle finger touching the top of the bottom bracket. Is there any validity to this?

    I am looking at a fitting but the cost is a little much right now with a newborn and the wife is still off of work.
    The second one about finger touching the BB is not worth squat.

    This link may be helpful for you Fitting Your Bike: Expert Advice from REI

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    In all likelihood your seat is too low. Just google bicycle seat height and you'll find several good ways to find the optimal height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edubfromktown View Post
    Pain below knee cap on front of leg or on back of leg? If it is on the high part of your calf, not uncommon particularly if you are pushing yourself to pedal harder/faster. Might be wise to ease up on the gearing a bit for climbs to see if it lessens the pain. Not sure if you sit and mash or not... standing and pedaling some of the time can also help.

    I'm 46 and had ACL replacement surgery (using 1/3rd of my patellar tendon) 8 years ago. Rehab took a relatively long ~1.5 years and I haven't had any knee discomfort to speak of since then. This year I hope to exceed 3,000 miles on my bikes and added a single speed 29er to my quiver ~6 months ago. Lots of folks warned me about knee pain from SS riding... hasn't occurred thus far.
    glad to hear your success story!

    I have pain below the knee cap in the front of the leg. I recently started mashing up hills in the seated position; will try standing more.

    will also try easing up on gearing.
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    Glad to read I"m not the only one experiencing this after getting back in to cycling!

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    Have you seen a PT?

    I wasted a ton of time trying to self-diagnose my knee issues in the past. Cut to the chase and go see a progressive, sports oriented, physical therapist.

    I live in the Atlanta area and there is a PT practice that offers a free evaluation. Basically you go in and they run you through a series of movements and more often than not can diagnose your issue without having to go to an orthopaedist first.

    Lets assume they determine you have some type of muscle imbalance that is causing the pain. If you want to them to treat the issue, you will have to go to your primary care doc and have them write a script for PT. You may or may not follow up with them, but in my opinion it is worth having them look at it ASAP to identify, or rule out, anything that might be obvious to them.

    The key is to ask around to find a reputable place that offers a free eval.

    Getting a bike fit is another option, but you will be out $100 +. This is well worth it if it is going to keep you injury free, but going to the PT first, might identify something else that the most exact bike fit won't fix.

    Good Luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbansniper View Post
    glad to hear your success story!

    I have pain below the knee cap in the front of the leg. I recently started mashing up hills in the seated position; will try standing more.

    will also try easing up on gearing.
    Good idea... mixing it up a little and standing or even changing positions occasionally during a ride (where your hands are on bars for example) can help a lot.

    One other note: knee pain can take a while to go away so even though you change your technique for the better it may be some period of time before the pain completely subsides. I find the same to be true when I bash a knee or elbow.

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    I have been messing with seat position and height the past few days. I also went out this morning for a short ride to get a better assessment. The knee still hurts buy I realized it is only the left and it is more of an ache from lack of usage. I am going to try and get out every day for a short 15+ ride to work it in. I think looking for off bike excersise would be a good idea.

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