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    Just get out of my way, walkers!

    I ride on this 6 mile paved walking trail through the woods and along a river just for some nice, easy cruising and something different from pounding trails. I go quite often and lots of cyclist too, but the walkers lumbering around not looking or anything...I get so tired of yelling "on your left" Still you have to break momentum, because you never know which dip-**** won't know his left and slide in front of you, SPLAT!

    I'm thinking of getting a whistle.....it takes to much breath for me to keep yelling "on your left"
    and half the people get scared to hell when I sneak up in the back of them lol.... I can't count how many "Oh ****" or "sorry" I have heard lol.

    Damn near took down a 4 year old on a 20 dollar, tiny Huffy with training wheels the other day lmao...

    Had to come down from a pumped up power sprint in 24th gear down to a 3rd gear crawl with a handful of brakes.

    Oh and dogs on leashes.... I have to jump off for that....no telling which way they will go...or if the owner will pull it to the side.

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    i sport a bell on my commuter. i want an ooga horn, but not sure if i can find one.

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    Dude you can't be serious. You have to be trolling here. And if this is a troll, then your other thread is probably a troll too, and that's just wrong man.
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    i run over grandpas/dogs/kids constantly. that'll teach em to walk on pavement.

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    Time for a reality check here!

    The reality check is you need to accept that you are the over taking vehicle. You have the responsibility to do so safely, and for our sport, courteously. If you are riding on a walking trail you need to get off your high horse and thank people for giving room and having dogs on leash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganymede_Illusion View Post
    I ride on this 6 mile paved walking trail through the woods and along a river just for some nice, easy cruising and something different from pounding trails. I go quite often and lots of cyclist too, but the walkers lumbering around not looking or anything...I get so tired of yelling "on your left" Still you have to break momentum, because you never know which dip-**** won't know his left and slide in front of you, SPLAT!

    I'm thinking of getting a whistle.....it takes to much breath for me to keep yelling "on your left"
    and half the people get scared to hell when I sneak up in the back of them lol.... I can't count how many "Oh ****" or "sorry" I have heard lol.

    Damn near took down a 4 year old on a 20 dollar, tiny Huffy with training wheels the other day lmao...

    Had to come down from a pumped up power sprint in 24th gear down to a 3rd gear crawl with a handful of brakes.

    Oh and dogs on leashes.... I have to jump off for that....no telling which way they will go...or if the owner will pull it to the side.
    At what point in time did you think your mountain bike has the right of way on a PAVED trail?? You cant seriously think walkers on pavement need to move out of your way...Go find a trail to ride on...

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    Ignorance. Someone delete this thread please.

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    You need to get one of those boat horns and just push the button every time you see someone walking on the walking trail. WTF are they doing on the walking trail anyway I mean the nerve of some people.

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    I can understand your frustration but really. You shouldn't WANT to speed on a walking trail with people, dogs and kids. Just bad for everyone involved. Best case scenario for you is some one beats your ass for acting the fool. Better to learn your lesson that way than sending someone, maybe you too to the hospital, maybe getting sued for it. I speed all the time, when it's safe to do so. I'd also consider it my fault if I crashed into someone because I couln't slow down in time. Of coarse it's a pain when people get in your way but come on really? I mean the nerve, people walking on a walking trail. What are they thinking? Don't they have eyes in back of their heads?
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    Yeah bro I think if the trail is marked walking you need to slow down. If I am out walking with my wife and kid we stay on the walking trail because it is marked walking trail. You don't ever see me walking with my family along the mtb trail. All joking aside I don't understand your frustration or this thread is this a joke?

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    I'm very new to the sport, but so far everywhere I've taken my bike has had very clear rules posted that everyone can easily understand. On the MTB trails here in the Atlanta area like Blankets Creek and Olde Rope Mill, walkers hikers & dogs are allowed but not recommended...and must yield right of way to bikers at all times. On the trails I've been to at Sope Creek and Iron Hill, it's the opposite...bikers are allowed but must yield to anybody else on the trail. So far, everyone I've encountered has been very courteous about this whether they're on wheels or foot, and generally seem to follow the rules the sign at the trail head states. When I'm riding Blankets Creek hikers take 2 steps off the trail, stand and watch me go by, I say thanks as I'm passing or hello, they do the same, and life is good. When I'm on the jogging trail that leads to sope creek mtb trails, I give pedestrians tons of room, an "on your left" when passing 'em, and totally don't mind slowing down if their dog is hyper or their kid is wandering. I also very rarely knock toddlers out of the way to cut in line for ice cream or knock the walker out from under old ladies when they're in my way at the grocery store.

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    The rules are quite simple uphill riders have the right of way and bikers yield to everyone. We are at the bottom of the food chain when it comes to trail access, get used to it.

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    I understand the OPs frustration with this. Yes, its a multi purpose trail, so you have to give the walkers the right of way and announce your presense, and you have to be courteous. However, some people are clueless, like the ones who stand on one side of the trail, and are holding a leash attached to their dog on the opposite side of the trail. There are also people who move left when you yell, "on your left" and that kind of a thing, and also the people who don't move at all when you pass them. I will say that getting a little bike bell would be a good idea. You just ring it a few times as you are approaching people, and most "get it" and politely move out of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganymede_Illusion View Post
    Damn near took down a 4 year old on a 20 dollar, tiny Huffy with training wheels the other day lmao...
    You're kidding, right? Not cool if you're endangering four-year-olds.

    Find a different place to ride when you want to hammer. Paved paths are for those wanting to toodle along on geezer bikes.

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    Self absorbed MTB'er on a paved trail: "Don't these $&%*# people know I should have the right of way?!?!"
    Self absorbed MTB'er on a road: "Don't these $&%*# cars know I should have the right of way?!?!"
    Self absorbed MTB'er on an unpaved trail: "Don't these $&%*# bikers know I should have the right of way?!?!"

    Don't be self absorbed... Let others pass and give fair warning you want to pass...
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    Well some 14 people so far so it looks like the juries in. Be thankful it's not a real jury. You give cyclist a bad name for good reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mimi1885 View Post
    The rules are quite simple uphill riders have the right of way .
    This all depends on the trail.

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    Mountain biking 101...........

    Read them and abide by them or else stay off your bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhpeteinsc View Post
    This all depends on the trail.
    I would like to see one example of a multi use trail where bikers do not yield to pedestrians. I can imagine special circumstances, but the rule is the triangle sign that was just posted.

    Go find somewhere else to ride; is there any wonder why there are access issues and traffic confrontations for bicycles around the country? You're doing every single one of us a disservice by thrashing your way down a trail populated by slow moving pedestrians and children and complaining about it. There has got to be better places for you to ride than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganymede_Illusion View Post
    All I do is put on some baggier than usual jean shorts with a nice thin belt, no undies.

    HAHAHAHHA!!!^^^^ He obviously knows what he's doing.

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    What about this one ...

    2 way paved bike lane:
    4 bikers total
    2 going north, 2 going south
    North biker1 stays in our side of the 2 way lane and never budged
    My gf had to swerve to avoid collision as both north bikers took up the entire bike path

    My question is this: Should I have stopped and notified them that it is a 2 way lane? Or just blatantly play some chicken, which I would've lost since north biker1 didn't even flinch.

    The thing with this bike path is there are 2 sections:
    1 two-way bike lane, clearly marked (often) with line painted showing direction of travel with arrows.
    1 walking path adjacent to bike lane

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImagePree View Post
    What about this one ...

    2 way paved bike lane:
    4 bikers total
    2 going north, 2 going south
    North biker1 stays in our side of the 2 way lane and never budged
    My gf had to swerve to avoid collision as both north bikers took up the entire bike path

    My question is this: Should I have stopped and notified them that it is a 2 way lane? Or just blatantly play some chicken, which I would've lost since north biker1 didn't even flinch.

    The thing with this bike path is there are 2 sections:
    1 two-way bike lane, clearly marked (often) with line painted showing direction of travel with arrows.
    1 walking path adjacent to bike lane
    Easy: yes you should have stopped and notified them it is a 2 way bike lane. Where's the issue?
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    There isn't an issue - more of a vent.
    What irked me was my gf was the lead bike; she gave her eye contact and north biker1 either did not care or did not understand that she was in our lane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zebrahum View Post
    I would like to see one example of a multi use trail where bikers do not yield to pedestrians. I can imagine special circumstances, but the rule is the triangle sign that was just posted.
    Since I'm new to the forums it won't let me post a link to the page but Blankets Creek just north of Atlanta specifically says hikers yield to bikes. Go to www dot sorbawoodstock dot org slash trails & see for yourself. (Looks like I need to start posting more so it'll let me post links!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganymede_Illusion View Post
    I ride on this 6 mile paved walking trail

    Damn near took down a 4 year old on a 20 dollar, tiny Huffy with training wheels the other day lmao...

    Had to come down from a pumped up power sprint in 24th gear down to a 3rd gear crawl with a handful of brakes.
    So youre riding 30 mph (+/-) on a "walking trail?" Maybe when your Grandma gets pummeled by a biker on the same path you'll realize your mistake.
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    this thread is funny...

    yes, i understand riding around clueless-pudgy-human-missiles can be frustrating....but save the rampage riding for the dirt yO....

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    The other day I was riding a multi-use dirt trail, basically non-technical singletrack and came up to a guy running listening to music but I didn't see the headphones. I slowed enough to ride behind and called out I was going to pass but he didn't move aside I assume because he couldn't hear me. The trail was narrow enough that I couldn't pass safely. He finially saw my shadow and about jumped out of his shoes trying to get out of my way assuming I was barreling down on him. He didn't have a clue I was riding behind him for 100 feet or so.
    Is this guy a hazard to all trail users?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zebrahum View Post
    I would like to see one example of a multi use trail where bikers do not yield to pedestrians. I can imagine special circumstances, but the rule is the triangle sign that was just posted.
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    That Triangle applies to folks with common sense and courtesy.

    I've seen a horseman on a horse that was spooked by its own shadow and freaking out and screaming at me that I was not six feet off the trail and to take my helmet off. Clue phone....not my effen problem, keep your horse off of muti-use trails if it can't handle the multi part of the user. With that said, be civil to me and I'll do just about anything to help you.

    I've HIT a trail runner who had his earbuds turned up all the way and swerved in front of me... TFB for you trail runner dude if you had not had those in and on "10" you'ld have heard me screeming "ON YOUR LEFT" and been just peachy and I'd have one less scar to boot.

    I have scared a fellow biker sh#tless (earbuds again...) and he swerved off the trail into a pinion when after yelling ON YOUR LEFT three times at the top of my lungs I got no response, so I just passed him.

    Common sense and courtesy dictates that on a multi-use trail that you have all of your senses available and these are extreme examples from 250+ days of riding every year. I have scores of encounters with horsemen, hikers and runners and 98% are uneventful or downright pleasent. As for the other 2%, well that's just the way it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghoti View Post
    The other day I was riding a multi-use dirt trail, basically non-technical singletrack and came up to a guy running listening to music but I didn't see the headphones.
    If I'm running on pavement then I will wear my headphones and keep to the right. But, if I'm running (or riding) on a trail I don't wear headphones. If there's not enough room for someone to pass safely then I need to know if they're coming up behind me...

    He probably shouldn't have been wearing them. Or, at least he should keep the volume low enough he can hear the courtesy call...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganymede_Illusion View Post
    I ride on this 6 mile paved walking trail through the woods and along a river just for some nice, easy cruising and something different from pounding trails. I go quite often and lots of cyclist too, but the walkers lumbering around not looking or anything...I get so tired of yelling "on your left" Still you have to break momentum, because you never know which dip-**** won't know his left and slide in front of you, SPLAT!

    I'm thinking of getting a whistle.....it takes to much breath for me to keep yelling "on your left"
    and half the people get scared to hell when I sneak up in the back of them lol.... I can't count how many "Oh ****" or "sorry" I have heard lol.

    Damn near took down a 4 year old on a 20 dollar, tiny Huffy with training wheels the other day lmao...

    Had to come down from a pumped up power sprint in 24th gear down to a 3rd gear crawl with a handful of brakes.

    Oh and dogs on leashes.... I have to jump off for that....no telling which way they will go...or if the owner will pull it to the side.

    Just wow. People like you are why more and more trails become hiker only.
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    I understand your concern, I myself have almost rolled over a little kid ( they just let him walk around) and a women about 35-40 years old that wasn't watching her sides at all. I have scared the **** out of an old women because I totally lost control of my rear wheel at a high speed and started zig zaging with my rear wheel. Dozen of situations like this happen to me everyday. Everyday I see people and they are not happy about how I ride or where I ride. This is no jokes. I go to Mount Royal the only place where we can ride in Montreal and have fun, yet people somehow get in my way when I ride monday at 9.00 a.m. in the forest. Come on.. Tourists walking on special mountain bike tracks not even looking arround AT ALL. A lot of people rarely look around, they just follow the crowd. Hell, last time I almost rolled over that women, she was so close to me that I just breaked without even thinking rear or front, whatever. So I breaked with the front and my rear wheel went up and hit a guy standing just a little lower than his neck ( the guy was fine I took most of the impact force ) .

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not a bad rider or something. It's just people are very easy minded going into the street they don't know the consequences of real accidents. I've been in car accidents and I still remember the feeling you have before the last moment.

    Everytime this stuff happens to me it makes me feel real bad because this is no jokes, I don't want to run over a little kid or a stupid women that doesn't check right and left.

    The worst is not when you do downhill, but it's in the street and you know it! I never had any problems with any cars though. Everyone is very nice usually and let me pass which I appreciate. Sometimes I'm scared of parked cars that want to leave, I believe you understand why. It's a tricky situation..

    For people that say this thread is useless or something, whatever! You should share what happens to you so we become more careful on roads because even when I don't go fast this stuff happens. You can never predict it or see it coming. You are randomly riding not too fast and something pops out right in front of you. Typical everyday situation.

    I don't even want to think a second that I could find someone on my track while I'm DH'ing. I pray so this doesn't happen but I have that bad feeling that it will soon or later. I just wish you all the best and be careful. I've hit my head and got hit a lot and there's nothing good.

    I never ride on the walking side and never will. It's kinda stupid when I see people do this I tell them to stop..I know sometimes you don't have the choice but do your best..

    Might be offtopic but it was worth to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganymede_Illusion View Post
    I'm thinking of getting a whistle.....it takes to much breath for me to keep yelling "on your left"
    I have that thing, it does very weird sounds (cop, firealaram, etc..) in different variations VERY LOUD!!! You hear it on the other end of the street !!

    Not sure where you get it, I got mine back in 00' in Russia. It's made in Japan. I'll upload a pic when I have a sec.

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    You all got trolled hard. Vuvuzela anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    You all got trolled hard. Vuvuzela anyone?

    So now I'm a troll eh?

    It never ends on forums....never.

    Sorry, but I get tired of shouting "on your left" 15 times in 6 miles. When I am power sprinting, I breath and don't want to "talk" I simply thought of getting a whistle and quickly blow it.

    And yes, lots of bikes take to that trail, a lot. Lots of people too with headphones, pushing babies in carriages, actual babies running in circles in the middle of the trail ect ect...Old ladies you have no idea if they will scoot left or right so I just end up hoping off to go past rather than risk a hit.

    The trail is nice, next to a river, paved...it's good for raw cardio workout and sprints.

    I'll do a sprint on the bike then run 4 miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssiegrist View Post
    HAHAHAHHA!!!^^^^ He obviously knows what he's doing.

    It's what I prefer to those "padded" shorts and a$$ cream

    Go ahead and wear your diapers, I'm fine with what I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganymede_Illusion View Post
    So now I'm a troll eh?

    It never ends on forums....never.

    Sorry, but I get tired of shouting "on your left" 15 times in 6 miles. When I am power sprinting, I breath and don't want to "talk" I simply thought of getting a whistle and quickly blow it.

    And yes, lots of bikes take to that trail, a lot. Lots of people too with headphones, pushing babies in carriages, actual babies running in circles in the middle of the trail ect ect...Old ladies you have no idea if they will scoot left or right so I just end up hoping off to go past rather than risk a hit.

    The trail is nice, next to a river, paved...it's good for raw cardio workout and sprints.

    I'll do a sprint on the bike then run 4 miles.
    If you're not a troll, then you're a self-absorbed tool. If there are that many other people using the trail, and it bothers you, then you need to find somewhere else to do sprints. They have just as much of a right as you to use it. They have a right to listen to music. Man the **** up and go around them in the grass if it's such an issue. It is a mountain bike....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bclagge View Post
    If you're not a troll, then you're a self-absorbed tool. If there are that many other people using the trail, and it bothers you, then you need to find somewhere else to do sprints. They have just as much of a right as you to use it. They have a right to listen to music. Man the **** up and go around them in the grass if it's such an issue. It is a mountain bike....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganymede_Illusion View Post
    No hotlinking allowed in your image, ******bag lol.
    You're ruining the image and reputation of bikers across the country, who's the real d bag here?

    Find somewhere else to ride or take it easy on your multi use trail. Pretend you care about how hard it is for some of us to get trails open or keep trails open to bikers.
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    OMG f'ck it.

    It is not like I just trample through hordes of people on that trail, spitting and cussing like I am a bad-ass biker. I simply said I hate yelling out to everyone, I hate talking whilist riding hard and I think having a whistle would be best. That way if they don't know left from right it doesn't matter because they'll hear the whistle, look back and get out the way.

    Eh...nothing but a "I'll jump on board, tell this guy how much he's disgracing the sport for all us bleeding hearts and it makes me look like a saint"....thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fly Rod View Post
    Time for a reality check here!

    The reality check is you need to accept that you are the over taking vehicle. You have the responsibility to do so safely, and for our sport, courteously. If you are riding on a walking trail you need to get off your high horse and thank people for giving room and having dogs on leash.

    Save the hate for someone who cares...

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    If I was walking on "your" trail and saw you in full sprint I might accidentally drop my walking stick in your spokes. Whats gonna happen to a 4yo kid when you plow into him? Guess what would happen to you if it was my kid? Stop being so damm selfish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganymede_Illusion View Post
    Eh...nothing but a "I'll jump on board, tell this guy how much he's disgracing the sport for all us bleeding hearts and it makes me look like a saint"....thread.
    Don't worry, I'd say it to your face if you did a high speed fly by on my family or friends while we were riding on a gentle multi use trail.

    What aren't you understanding? You're blindly bombing families, children, and innocent bystanders and complaining about it. Welcome to earth: people run red lights, blow stop signs, speed all the time, drive drunk, eat **** food for every meal; do you really think they're going to care that they're taking up too much room and you're riding your bike way too fast for a path?

    People can't even merge through a construction zone on the highway but they should probably be expected to know when you're closing on them from behind at 20mph while they meander around a quiet, scenic lake.
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    I have a MUP I use for interval training. It works quite well, actually.

    For the work unit, I hammer around the road going around the lake it's on. At the portion where the road doesn't quite link up to make a complete circuit, I get on the MUP, sit up, and catch my breathe.
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    I understand the frustration. When I ride (usually dirt) I encounter hikers from time to time and other riders more often. Whether I am going uphill or downhill, I do my best to be as courteous as possible to others, whether they are mounted on a bike, horse, or just walking. It is no secret that bikers have a bad reputation and that they are restricted more than any other group using the trails. I think that it would be a bad idea to worsen that reputation and give others fuel to restrict us more.
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    LOL...

    I'm going to put a little bell on my bike and use it lol...

    Just like the tots use...

    Hey...I bet the chicks will think it's cute though... Takes a MAN to use a little bike bell lmao...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganymede_Illusion View Post
    I'm going to put a little bell on my bike and use it lol...

    Just like the tots use...
    In Japan just about everybody rides a bike and just about everybody has a bell. I rode every single day when I was over there and used it multiple times a day. It was also funny to see some people's reactions to a loud bell (scared the crap out of many).
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    If you're having trouble mustering up the breath to warn people up ahead, you've got bigger issues than people in your way. More singletrack, less pavement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganymede_Illusion View Post
    I ride on this 6 mile paved walking trail through the woods and along a river just for some nice, easy cruising and something different from pounding trails. I go quite often and lots of cyclist too, but the walkers lumbering around not looking or anything...I get so tired of yelling "on your left" Still you have to break momentum, because you never know which dip-**** won't know his left and slide in front of you, SPLAT!

    I'm thinking of getting a whistle.....it takes to much breath for me to keep yelling "on your left"
    and half the people get scared to hell when I sneak up in the back of them lol.... I can't count how many "Oh ****" or "sorry" I have heard lol.

    Damn near took down a 4 year old on a 20 dollar, tiny Huffy with training wheels the other day lmao...

    Had to come down from a pumped up power sprint in 24th gear down to a 3rd gear crawl with a handful of brakes.

    Oh and dogs on leashes.... I have to jump off for that....no telling which way they will go...or if the owner will pull it to the side.
    Sounds like you should just ride somewhere else. Trails with lots of slow walkers are going to suck if you want to go fast and do power sprints. Just the way it is.

    FWIW, if you hit that 4 year-old, you might end up sending him/her to college.

    Slow down or ride somewhere else.
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    One of my friends use to carry a air horn with him and when walkers are in front of him he uses it and it usually scare people away. It got taken off him by the cops though

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