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    If you want to upgrade your Suntour fork

    From Nick at Suntour: "We are happy to provide a customer loyalty upgrade program that allows end users to upgrade to a fork of their choice from SR Suntour. Forks start at the Raidon level with an air cartridge, adjustable rebound and hydraulic lockout. Pricing starts at $150-$175 depending on the wheel size."

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    A contact email, phone #, or website link might help. I am curious about this.

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    PM Nick.
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    This can be a good option, but like any upgrade you need info to compare your choices before you spend your money. Fork demos don't exist.
    For upgrading it would be useful to throw out some tuning info, testing links and exploded views. I see an exploded view for the Raidon but their website links for views of the Epicon and Axion are not live.

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    .... the word's finally getting out... Nick is going to get swamped by PM's

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    Had i hadnt changed mine a while back i think i would have been all over this too.I still have my basic suntours that came on my trek

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    Anyone heard back yet?

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    Might be off for the holidays.
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    Sounds like a cool program, will try to take advantage of it as soon as I'm able.

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    Hi All,

    We are just getting our computers warmed up again from the holidays and I have already tried to answer PM's and email regarding this. I will get back with anyone who ask a question time permitting : )

    One thing I would like to add is that we do have a dedicated demo driver that covered more than 30,000 miles last year and attended every large bicycle event in the country so our higher end forks can be seen out in the wild.

    In regards to exploded views every fork we have made dating back to 2006 has an exploded view available on our website.

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    Here is a link to the program guidelines.

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    So if I have the XCM V3 (26")on my airborne skyhawk, what would I upgrade to?

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    I'm having a hard time figuring out what is what between the models. Looking for an upgrade for a 29er. Is coil better or worse than air? It's also hard to judge on the SR site without prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mi26r View Post
    So if I have the XCM V3 (26")on my airborne skyhawk, what would I upgrade to?

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    This is where upgrading a fork becomes difficult. Your Skyhawk was spec'd with an appropriate fork for the frame and other components on the bike. If you upgrade the fork at +$150, you will have spent 50% of the original value in a modification that will enable you to travel faster and through terrain that your brakes and wheels were not designed to handle. Then you will want to upgrade those parts and you will have spent as much or more than if you just bought a bike spec'd to your riding level and style.

    However, to answer your question, the Raidon would be the next step up.
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    I think there website is down

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    Thanks for (re)posting this. Their website works fine for me, and I think this is something I'd definitely like to take advantage of. I wouldn't mind being the guinea pig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burbskate View Post
    I'm having a hard time figuring out what is what between the models. Looking for an upgrade for a 29er. Is coil better or worse than air? It's also hard to judge on the SR site without prices.
    Coil vs air doesn't define what fork is better than another. In terms of entry level forks, air forks are suggested because they are more easily adjustable and the damper systems that come with air forks at that price range are usually better than coil forks because the low end coil forks are less expensive overall. As you get into higher priced forks the dampers are what set one fork apart from another more so than if they're air or coil. I have a very nice coil rear shock mated with a very nice air fork on my bike and they have their strong points. Coils have a nice "feel" to them but weigh more. Air is more easily adjustable including on trail or for another rider of a different weight to ride.

    I would start with the SR catalog http://srsuntour-files.dbap.de/_publ...S-2K13-LOW.pdf. It has a nice description of all of the dampers used in their forks (pages 20-25) then starting on page 62 you have a breakdown of the specs of each fork. Usually, the model name contains the name of the damper used in the fork so you can know which technology is being used where.

    Here's a quick guide to picking a fork:
    1. Your frame is designed for a certain amount of suspension travel. If you do not use that amount of travel, you change how the bike handles and in extreme cases you can put the structure of the frame in danger and risk breakage. I would suggest to match the travel of your current fork and not exceed it by more than 20mm. Every frame is different, contact the manufacturer with any questions about compatibility.
    2. Buy the same steerer tube as your current fork or one that is compatible with your frame. If you have a straight 1 1/8" steerer, buy a straight 1 1/8" steerer for your new fork. If you have a tapered headtube then buy a tapered fork and so on.
    3. Match your wheel size, axle type (QR or thru-axle hub), and your brake type. If you have rim brakes, make sure the fork you're shopping for can take rim brakes.
    4. Finally, pick a price and buy whatever you can get for that price. Fork technology can get pretty hard to understand; if you are buying in a certain price point then you can compare forks more evenly. Only compare forks that contain your needs in wheel size, axle type, and so on to limit your choices as much as possible.

    All that's left is to make a decision. It's hard to go wrong so long as you don't mind a little homework. If you can't make a decision, go to your LBS and let them guide you.
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    @zebrahum - wow. Thanks for the great explanation! I'll look up that catalog.

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    I have three people with XCT's on their bikes. This would be an awesome upgrade.
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    so is there a website or do we just pm? my 400ht from BD has a suntour SR fork on it and its the only part on it i dont like. it has bottomed out from day one and im 5"11 160lbs. I wouldnt mind a higher end fork from suntour but the one i have, ugh...

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    Hi All,

    There seems to be a lot of interest in this program from many of you, so thanks. For anyone that has questions about this please email me as opposed to a PM to make it a little more legitimate.

    For anyone looking for a quick review on the base level fork in this program you can check the link below.

    Voodoo Hoodoo Review - BikeRadar

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    OOOOO! I will have to keep this in mind as I'm looking at new rides.

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    I'm going to have to dig through the product guide and give the Raidon a good looksee. Is there a price list for these forks anywhere?

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    We had quite a few forks featured in the most recent buyers guide in Decline with pricing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRvancouver13 View Post
    We had quite a few forks featured in the most recent buyers guide in Decline with pricing.

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    Screencaps from that article...

    I'm interested in the Epicon-x1 LO-RC 29"

    What's the deal with that one?




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    Quote Originally Posted by wmac View Post
    This is where upgrading a fork becomes difficult. Your Skyhawk was spec'd with an appropriate fork for the frame and other components on the bike. If you upgrade the fork at +$150, you will have spent 50% of the original value in a modification that will enable you to travel faster and through terrain that your brakes and wheels were not designed to handle. Then you will want to upgrade those parts and you will have spent as much or more than if you just bought a bike spec'd to your riding level and style.

    However, to answer your question, the Raidon would be the next step up.
    I agree with what wmac said and would like to add that your fork is probably good enough for your needs especially if it's a HLO (oil damped) version. If you're sure it's not cutting it anymore or you find it to be too heavy (it's a heavy fork) I would suggest skipping Raidon and going to Epicon directly. That's just my opinion though it's not a rule.

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    I e-mailed suntour about this, but haven't heard back. Very busy holiday season I guess.

    Are there any offers on rear shocks? I've seen these on ebay.uk and occasionally here in the states, but not much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watts888 View Post
    I e-mailed suntour about this, but haven't heard back. Very busy holiday season I guess.

    Are there any offers on rear shocks? I've seen these on ebay.uk and occasionally here in the states, but not much.
    Might be better to call them... Their info is on the previous page.

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    Can zoom in on the 1st 2 pics but the pricing and specs are blurry... Dagger!

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    I'm guessing this isn't the entire line? I don't see any Raidon with air/lockout/rebound for ~$200??

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    Quote Originally Posted by GelatiCruiser View Post
    Can zoom in on the 1st 2 pics but the pricing and specs are blurry... Dagger!
    Really? I can read them fine... odd

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    Quote Originally Posted by GelatiCruiser View Post
    Can zoom in on the 1st 2 pics but the pricing and specs are blurry... Dagger!

    I just use Ctrl + (more than once) to make the page bigger and Ctrl 0 to return to normal display.
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    I've heard back. You can get a 29" Epicon LO R Qlc White for $250.

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    Is this offer still live?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hOlykamOtie* View Post
    Is this offer still live?
    I asked in a email and they told me there isn't a deadline for the program.

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    There doing this program to get more publicity on there better stuff. But be warned if you have older components like me they many not be able to get you anything at all.

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    Currently I have this fork "SR Suntour XCM-HLO w/Hydraulic LO, 80mm" and I'm interested on getting their Epicon model for 26" bikes. Any ideas how much I will pay and do I also need to give them my old fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRvancouver13 View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by hOlykamOtie* View Post
    Currently I have this fork "SR Suntour XCM-HLO w/Hydraulic LO, 80mm" and I'm interested on getting their Epicon model for 26" bikes. Any ideas how much I will pay and do I also need to give them my old fork?
    I did the customer loyalty plan last July and got a Raidon for $150. I believe the Epicon was $275 but it wasn't justifiable in my case. My old fork was a XCM V3 and the Raidon made a HUGE improvement. The Raidon is not nearly as pogo sticky as the XCM but of course it's not going to be like a Fox or high end Rockshox either. They do not require you to send the old fork back. I would highly recommend this program for anyone looking to keep on riding while on a budget or while waiting to upgrade to a new bike.

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    Is this works for canadian too or only US?

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    You should call or email Nick.
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    This would be really tempting IF i actually liked my bike and didn't want to get another one. That and i just wouldn't know how 100mm would feel vs. the stock 80mm. Though i would think half of it would be negated with sag.

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    Depending on the bike, going from 80-100mm with a better fork might make you like it a lot more. For $150 bucks minus the probably $30 you could sell your existing fork for, it's not a bad gamble.

    What kind of bike is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmac View Post
    Depending on the bike, going from 80-100mm with a better fork might make you like it a lot more. For $150 bucks minus the probably $30 you could sell your existing fork for, it's not a bad gamble.

    What kind of bike is it?
    It's a 2011 Hardrock Disc 26er.

    If I can get one for 150 bucks....it's VERY tempting. It's tempting just as an experiment to learn what the difference would be in having a better fork on it, and how that extra 20mm would affect the geo of the bike. I would probably like the slacker HT angle at least.

    The problem is that i don't think that bike's geo is ever going to work for me. I need something that is more aggressive XC. And most importantly I need to bump to 29er as they offer way too many things I will take advantage of.

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    Yeah, sell it and get a bad ass XC race bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 77charger View Post
    Had i hadnt changed mine a while back i think i would have been all over this too.I still have my basic suntours that came on my trek
    You got two forks with your bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYrr496 View Post
    I have three people with XCT's on their bikes. This would be an awesome upgrade.
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    Do you all offer anymore higher end 29" G2 Geo forks? Looking through the site, I didn't see one being G2 that I want use for my 2012 Trek Marlin.

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    You should email Nick.
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    Can someone explain this deal to me? If I buy say a Giant Revel 1, that comes with a Fork SR Suntour XCM V3, 100mm Travel, what does this do for me? I can upgrade to what forks and whats the reduced price?

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