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    I have a few questions about bike selection.

    26, 650B, 29?

    Why do they make this so hard?

    Anyways, I just want to say that I have test ridden some 29" wheeled bikes, and they feel slow to me, like slow in the handlebars / responsiveness of the steering ) I also haven't been on any 29" bikes that feel comfortable. the stand over height is too high, and I always fear smashing my "boys". I do like the idea of bigger wheels. I'm just curious about what you guys think about 650b in general. Is it a scam by manufacturers to sell more stuff? Or is there more to it than that?

    I like the bigger wheels but i haven't found a 29er that is comfortable to me. i'm about 5'9" or 5'10" I can stand over a medium, OR a large frame cannondale Trail 4 29er, but on both occasions i was "rubbing" lightly.

    Any recommendations for a bike that would require less stand over? Or do you think i would be more comfortable on a 650b?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post

    I like the bigger wheels but i haven't found a 29er that is comfortable to me. i'm about 5'9" or 5'10" I can stand over a medium, OR a large frame cannondale Trail 4 29er, but on both occasions i was "rubbing" lightly.
    Then why do you like 29ers?

    You should get what you feel comfortable on. IMO 26" wheels with some big tires, like Kenda Small Block Eights, will give you the illusion of bigger wheels and a comfortable ride.

    For stand over issues look for frames that have a more aggressive slope. I wouldn't recommend any frame labeled "large" for someone your height. Stick to medium sized frames, 19" or less.

    Good luck!

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    I like the larger diameter wheels because of the lesser angle of attack, I'm just not 100% sure about 650b's yet though. I know they have been around awhile. And it seems manufacturers are hitting that market hard in the 2013 year. We'll have to see what happens, I guess keep on searching for a magic bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post
    I like the larger diameter wheels because of the lesser angle of attack, I'm just not 100% sure about 650b's yet though. I know they have been around awhile. And it seems manufacturers are hitting that market hard in the 2013 year. We'll have to see what happens, I guess keep on searching for a magic bike!
    Yes, definitely keep looking. Find something that you're comfortable with and don't let marketing hype drive your decision.

    No matter what size, test ride the bikes for fit - this requires 15 minutes or so of riding instead of 3 minutes in the parking lot. If the bike doesn't fit, you won't feel completely comfortable and possibly generate aches, pains, numbness..... and your enjoyment will be somewhat diminished, which defeats the entire purpose of buying the bike in the first place.

    You may also want to consider 2012 or even 2011 models. With the new bikes coming out, the stores will be eager to get rid of older inventory.

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    yeah, that is what kind of scares me right now about bike shops, I'm afraid they are trying to move the 2012's to make room for the 13's instead of selling me what I really need / want.

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    What is wrong with 2012 bikes?

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    They aren't going to force you to buy a bike you dont like.

    Seems to me that you are overthinking this and obsessing over wheel size.

    Like everyone else said, just go try out bikes until you find one you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post
    26, 650B, 29?

    Why do they make this so hard?

    Anyways, I just want to say that I have test ridden some 29" wheeled bikes, and they feel slow to me, like slow in the handlebars / responsiveness of the steering ) I also haven't been on any 29" bikes that feel comfortable. the stand over height is too high, and I always fear smashing my "boys". I do like the idea of bigger wheels. I'm just curious about what you guys think about 650b in general. Is it a scam by manufacturers to sell more stuff? Or is there more to it than that?

    I like the bigger wheels but i haven't found a 29er that is comfortable to me. i'm about 5'9" or 5'10" I can stand over a medium, OR a large frame cannondale Trail 4 29er, but on both occasions i was "rubbing" lightly.

    Any recommendations for a bike that would require less stand over? Or do you think i would be more comfortable on a 650b?
    I'm 5'10 3/4" with a 31.5 inseam, I've had a Large Specialized Stumpjumer FSR and currently ride a large Tallboy.

    When was the last time you crashed with both feet landing on the ground and slamming your crotch area? Stand over has almost nil to do with proper fit.

    What bikes have you ridden? The wheel size isn't the only factor, The two 29ers I just mentioned ride very differently.

    A lot of people are calling 650B a fad but I don't think so. When I first started looking for a new bike, the first one I demoed was a 650B Jamis. I liked the larger wheels. Everyone likes to throw the numbers around like only 4% bigger, but riding, it carried more momentum and climbed better on the roots and rocks here in MD.

    Since I liked it, the shop suggested I try a 29er. I was a big nay-sayer having ridden one in a parking lot, but gave it a shot anyway. Even more momentum and better climbing.
    Yes it wasn't as nimble, but to me, the trade off was worth it, so now I'm riding 29ers and don't see going back to 26er.

    Good luck in which ever one you choose.
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    I feel like most people are way too overwhelmed if they start their research on the 'net. Between the majors, the mid-sized companies and the boutique builders, there's a ton of selection. But most of it is expensive and a lot of it isn't even available in your area.

    So instead, start with your budget and what bikes are available to you relatively close to where you live and work. That should cut it down a lot. This is basically just another version of "Go to your shops, ride a lot of bikes, buy your favorite."

    Have you demoed a 29er off-road? If no, you don't know anything about a lesser angle of attack; you're just believing what some marketing people have written. I actually like them myself, but I can't say that they've made me bummed out about my little 26" bike.
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    Like others have stated already, you need to ride a variety of bikes on a trail and see what you like best. Each person is different and not all bikes are the same. IMHO what is more important than just looking at wheel size, is to find a bike that fits you and your riding stye. YMMV
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post
    yeah, that is what kind of scares me right now about bike shops, I'm afraid they are trying to move the 2012's to make room for the 13's instead of selling me what I really need / want.
    That could be a sign of a crappy bike shop.

    The one I frequent gives me smaller bits for free (the odd tool that comes with parts, top caps, replacement bolts, valves etc) -- even when I offer to pay for it. Not once was I ever pressured into buying anything. Probably why they've been in business for 100 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    I'm 5'10 3/4" with a 31.5 inseam, I've had a Large Specialized Stumpjumer FSR and currently ride a large Tallboy.

    When was the last time you crashed with both feet landing on the ground and slamming your crotch area? Stand over has almost nil to do with proper fit.
    True - frame sizing isn't always cut and dry. I'm 5'5" with a 30" inseam and I ride a large 07 S-Works SJ FSR and love how it fits me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post
    26, 650B, 29?

    Why do they make this so hard?

    Anyways, I just want to say that I have test ridden some 29" wheeled bikes, and they feel slow to me, like slow in the handlebars / responsiveness of the steering ) I also haven't been on any 29" bikes that feel comfortable. the stand over height is too high, and I always fear smashing my "boys". I do like the idea of bigger wheels. I'm just curious about what you guys think about 650b in general. Is it a scam by manufacturers to sell more stuff? Or is there more to it than that?

    I like the bigger wheels but i haven't found a 29er that is comfortable to me. i'm about 5'9" or 5'10" I can stand over a medium, OR a large frame cannondale Trail 4 29er, but on both occasions i was "rubbing" lightly.

    Any recommendations for a bike that would require less stand over? Or do you think i would be more comfortable on a 650b?
    Keep looking and test riding.

    I agree with you on the 29" size and made the mistake of buying one that was too big and could never feel comfortable on it.

    I exchanged it for a 26" and I am very happy with the size, speed and standover I now have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beshannon View Post
    Keep looking and test riding.

    I agree with you on the 29" size and made the mistake of buying one that was too big and could never feel comfortable on it.

    I exchanged it for a 26" and I am very happy with the size, speed and standover I now have.
    This is what I don't want to do, end up buying Sveral different bikes to truly find one I like. Or is the sport just like that sometimes?

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    Ride some small frames to see if you're cramped, and ride some 29ers with lighter forks like a 3.5lb. RockShox Reba. The steering should quicken up. The low end Suntour fork on the Cannondale is 5+ pounds of dead weight. You are probably a medium in many bikes so also check out Scott 960.
    Once you decide your size consider the medium Airborne Goblin with a dual air Reba. No upgrade need for several years of skill improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post
    This is what I don't want to do, end up buying Sveral different bikes to truly find one I like. Or is the sport just like that sometimes?
    I've had my 'A' road bike since 2000 and my mountain bike since 2007. I do also have some more recent purchases, although the only one that was actually replacing a previous bike was replacing a bike I broke.

    It varies. People's desires often evolve, especially in the first season, and I feel like a lot of people new to the sport have much higher expectations of the gear than a lot of more experienced riders do. Although now and then I do meet people who've been riding a long time and are on a new-bike-every-year-or-two treadmill. The bike industry does its best to keep coming up with different enough things to keep those guys buying. I guess I'm on a new-discipline-every-year-or-two treadmill - I hit 'cross pretty hard in 2008 and 2009, and did a fair amount of track racing this season, so those are the other two recent bikes.

    My advice is to take a look at what attracts you to the sport, ride a bunch of those bikes, and then spend as much as you can stomach on one. After that (this is the hard part) don't second-guess yourself. Just ride a lot.

    When people don't spend their "real" number, IME they tend to either bolt a lot of expensive crap to their cheap frames or buy another bike that's in their real pricepoint. So don't low ball this purchase. I don't know what your budget is, but if it's under $1000, the retail offerings suck. So in that case, I think buying a used bike from a reputable shop that specializes in that is the best value going. I'm not a fan of catalogs for people who can't pull a lot of information out of a chart - you've already found that bikes don't all ride the same. I think there's value in test riding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post
    This is what I don't want to do, end up buying Sveral different bikes to truly find one I like. Or is the sport just like that sometimes?
    Well in my case I bought from a shop that has a 14 day return/exchange policy, yes even on ridden bikes if they are in like new condition.

    Not suggesting you go this route but it is nice to have an option if you choose incorrectly. I should not have bought the first one, that is on me although I was over anxious to start riding again after a long layoff.

    That is why everyone is telling you to ride as many as you can first and as far as 2012 bikes, the one I have now is a 2012 bike with a nice discount to a 2013. In one case the only difference I saw was the color and the 2012 was on sale and the 2013 was not, so don't overlook a 2012.

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    Costco has some cool bikes. They've got bike helmets, cruiser bikes, BMX bikes and this really cool mountain bike for $799. That's kind of high for Costco. Anyway, I went ahead and bought the $799 bike (I forgot the name of it). It was a convenient purchase because I was also there to pick up two loaves of bread, a 1/2 gallon of half-n-half and a case of toilet paper. The bike is all black and I got the matching helmet. Actually, I wanted to buy the snow boarding helmet because it looked way better than those stupid-looking biking helmets.

    My next stop is Sports Authority to pick up some spandex shorts and matching shirt. I guess I'll need to make a trip to an actual bike store to get those shoes with the heel in the middle of the foot. I can't walk in those things at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post
    This is what I don't want to do, end up buying Sveral different bikes to truly find one I like. Or is the sport just like that sometimes?
    Find a good LBS that will let you test ride or rent a few bikes. Usually the rent fee goes toward the purchase price anyway and you will find the right bike for you..
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    Quote Originally Posted by famousdavis View Post
    costco has some cool bikes. They've got bike helmets, cruiser bikes, bmx bikes and this really cool mountain bike for $799. That's kind of high for costco. Anyway, i went ahead and bought the $799 bike (i forgot the name of it). It was a convenient purchase because i was also there to pick up two loaves of bread, a 1/2 gallon of half-n-half and a case of toilet paper. The bike is all black and i got the matching helmet. Actually, i wanted to buy the snow boarding helmet because it looked way better than those stupid-looking biking helmets.

    My next stop is sports authority to pick up some spandex shorts and matching shirt. I guess i'll need to make a trip to an actual bike store to get those shoes with the heel in the middle of the foot. I can't walk in those things at all.
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    Actually one of the Costco bikes has been mentioned from time to time as a really killer deal. For someone for whom it's the right size and can do his own setup, why not?
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    Yea, I heard MOAB in Franklin TN, does test rides / demos. Because I think riding one in the parking lot outside won't tell you much.

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    Check the bike shops, within a reasonable to you radius, for an upcoming "Demo". They let you ride lots of different bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrwSwitch View Post
    Actually one of the Costco bikes has been mentioned from time to time as a really killer deal. For someone for whom it's the right size and can do his own setup, why not?
    I guess it's hit or miss because of the lack of sizing.... then again you can take almost anything back to Costco for a refund/exchange at any time, so that's one indestructible bike for the rest of your life.

    Guess I was really wrong.

    Do check out the demos in your area. Lots of manufacturers are doing demos in my area right now probably due to the weather everywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shibiwan View Post
    I guess it's hit or miss because of the lack of sizing.... then again you can take almost anything back to Costco for a refund/exchange at any time, so that's one indestructible bike for the rest of your life.

    Guess I was really wrong.

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    costco 29er.

    For $479 if it fits it would be a decent starter bike for the money.
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    ^^^
    Couldn't remember the brand name. But yeah, that. For a while, I think it came with a Dart. (Or maybe I'm thinking of the Target bike.)
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    well I am currently riding a NISHIKI Colorado, I'm assuming it's 15 years old. It's also only a 16" frame, but something on the geometry of this bike kills my wrists. I'm always leaning into the handlebars putting all my weight in my hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrwSwitch View Post
    ^^^
    Couldn't remember the brand name. But yeah, that. For a while, I think it came with a Dart. (Or maybe I'm thinking of the Target bike.)
    I did take a cursory glance at the "Northrock" Costco bikes (thought they were $700) 2 or 3 weeks ago. Saw the Suntour fork and went "hmmm...should take a closer...." then the wife whisked me away with a "you have enough bikes in the house already" quip.

    The new ones are dark grey with black branding text instead of white. I should look at them the next time we're there.

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    What is so hard to understand about 650b?

    It is somewhere between a 26er and 29er.

    Would it help you if we called it a 27-and-halfer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrwSwitch View Post
    ............Snip............

    When people don't spend their "real" number, IME they tend to either bolt a lot of expensive crap to their cheap frames...snip....
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post
    26, 650B, 29?

    Why do they make this so hard?

    I like the bigger wheels but i haven't found a 29er that is comfortable to me. i'm about 5'9" or 5'10" I can stand over a medium, OR a large frame cannondale Trail 4 29er, but on both occasions i was "rubbing" lightly.

    Any recommendations for a bike that would require less stand over? Or do you think i would be more comfortable on a 650b?
    Why do you like bigger wheel when you are complaining about sluggish handling. That's actually the upside, more stability

    Forget the 650b, til you know more about bikes and components. I'd just get the 26er.

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    Another consideration

    We were camping in the lundy canyon campground for a couple of weeks last year. I snake eyed the two tubes I had with me until they were unpatchable. No bike shop in June lake, but the grocery store in Lee Vining had 26" tubes.

    All MTB oriented bike shops will have all three tube sizes, but all MTB trails are not near MTB bike shops.

    Almost all hardware stores will have 26" tubes. Good luck with 650b in Gelach NV etc.

    There's wisdom in buying common stuff. Most LBS will have SPD pedals and cleats, 26" tires and tubes, Avid bb/juicy brake pads, etc. Try getting some Hayes brake pads in Tonapah for riding the Toyabees.

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    Yes maybe I'm going to REI to test ride a few over the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telemike View Post
    We were camping in the lundy canyon campground for a couple of weeks last year. I snake eyed the two tubes I had with me until they were unpatchable. No bike shop in June lake, but the grocery store in Lee Vining had 26" tubes.

    All MTB oriented bike shops will have all three tube sizes, but all MTB trails are not near MTB bike shops.

    Almost all hardware stores will have 26" tubes. Good luck with 650b in Gelach NV etc.

    There's wisdom in buying common stuff. Most LBS will have SPD pedals and cleats, 26" tires and tubes, Avid bb/juicy brake pads, etc. Try getting some Hayes brake pads in Tonapah for riding the Toyabees.
    You're still running tubes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mimi1885 View Post
    Why do you like bigger wheel when you are complaining about sluggish handling. That's actually the upside, more stability

    Forget the 650b, til you know more about bikes and components. I'd just get the 26er.
    So what your saying is as a beginner rider automatically choose a 26" bike? Explain please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post
    So what your saying is as a beginner rider automatically choose a 26" bike? Explain please.
    Let me explain me too, I want to get a bike I will still be happy with 3 years from now. Not just get something, and wish 3 months from now I got something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post
    Let me explain me too, I want to get a bike I will still be happy with 3 years from now. Not just get something, and wish 3 months from now I got something else.
    I'm not a fortune teller, but 3 years from now, there will still be be 26" bikes - ranging from crappy ones to really nice ones. There are bikes and there are bikes. Pick the right one and you'll enjoy riding it for a long time.

    We're just saying that you should evaluate what you want to achieve with your mountain biking experience and make your decision from there. Perhaps the best suggestion right now is to figure out your answers to the buyer's guide:

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    26" tubes should drop right into 650B tires. With a bit more fussing, they'll do for 29er too. Tubes are quite stretchy.

    OP, I get that you're trying to future proof your purchase.

    If I weren't such an internet addict, I'd stay out of these threads. With respect, you're being vague and general. You won't be riding a vague and general bike and you can't buy one either. You'll be riding a specific bike. Don't worry - everyone else starts vague, general threads too.

    Further, while I can't say if you'll be riding a bike you buy tomorrow in three years, I'm very confident that you won't be riding a bike that's simply not available in three years.

    What's your pricepoint? What kind of riding do you want to do? Let's start there. Then you can try some 26" bikes that are actually available in your area for that style of riding, some 29" bikes, and some 650B bikes if they're even available and at the right figure for you. I can promise you that this decision will get a lot easier. Maybe still hard. But much less stumbling around in the dark and much more "Bike A, or Bike B?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrwSwitch View Post
    26" tubes should drop right into 650B tires. With a bit more fussing, they'll do for 29er too. Tubes are quite stretchy.

    OP, I get that you're trying to future proof your purchase.

    If I weren't such an internet addict, I'd stay out of these threads. With respect, you're being vague and general. You won't be riding a vague and general bike and you can't buy one either. You'll be riding a specific bike. Don't worry - everyone else starts vague, general threads too.

    Further, while I can't say if you'll be riding a bike you buy tomorrow in three years, I'm very confident that you won't be riding a bike that's simply not available in three years.

    What's your pricepoint? What kind of riding do you want to do? Let's start there. Then you can try some 26" bikes that are actually available in your area for that style of riding, some 29" bikes, and some 650B bikes if they're even available and at the right figure for you. I can promise you that this decision will get a lot easier. Maybe still hard. But much less stumbling around in the dark and much more "Bike A, or Bike B?"
    Ok, id like to stay under $1200 on my initial bicycle purchase. I an assuming I ride what's considered xc, but want an able bike for am situation. I was looking at Hard tails, no specific wheel size.

    Early upgrades would most likely be a set of shimano clip less pedals, and a thud buster seat post. ( not 100% on long or short version ). Those would be the two first upgrades within seek or so. Then id like to just ride awhile from there and see where I stand on my equipment and accessories.

    Lbs's in my area include, gt, trek, specialized, felt, cannondale, and Scott. (at least that is what I know of so far)

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post
    Ok, id like to stay under $1200 on my initial bicycle purchase. I an assuming I ride what's considered xc, but want an able bike for am situation. I was looking at Hard tails, no specific wheel size.

    Early upgrades would most likely be a set of shimano clip less pedals, and a thud buster seat post. ( not 100% on long or short version ). Those would be the two first upgrades within seek or so. Then id like to just ride awhile from there and see where I stand on my equipment and accessories.

    Lbs's in my area include, gt, trek, specialized, felt, cannondale, and Scott. (at least that is what I know of so far)
    In your situation, I'd look at a "trail bike" like a Stumpjumper or similar. FS would also be great in a trail bike if you want to start tackling mid level AM trails.

    $1200 can get you a pretty nice new bike, or even nicer used bike. I think there's a used o6 or 07 SJ FSR (alloy) in my area for under $1k that just got consigned to one of the local LBS's. Pretty nice bike for the money.

    I'd plug the two Titus Carbon X frames I got right now but I don't think they're right for you (although it'll fit your budget).

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    As Shibiwan suggested, read the Noob Buyer's Guide and answer the questions. it'll help everyone involved.

    The reality is, it is unlikely you will pick the best bike for you out of the gate unless you plan to ride exactly the same way with the same people for the next three years. Most every $1200 bicycle is just as or more capable than the most capable MTB from 15 years ago. Technology is introduced to make things easier, faster and /or more reliable. Depending on you, your friends, how often you plan to ride and the people you ride with, the likelyhood of us helping you without a lot more information is nil.

    For example, if you are really short, throw 29 out the window. If you don't have a 26" bike and would like to get a taste of big wheel riding, throw 650b out the window.

    People have been riding 26" wheels for more than 30 years and most had a lot of fun doing it.

    If I had to make a suggestion right now based on the info provided, I'd say spen <$800 on a bike and $400 on accessories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post
    Ok, id like to stay under $1200 on my initial bicycle purchase. I an assuming I ride what's considered xc, but want an able bike for am situation. I was looking at Hard tails, no specific wheel size.

    Early upgrades would most likely be a set of shimano clip less pedals, and a thud buster seat post. ( not 100% on long or short version ). Those would be the two first upgrades within seek or so. Then id like to just ride awhile from there and see where I stand on my equipment and accessories.

    Lbs's in my area include, gt, trek, specialized, felt, cannondale, and Scott. (at least that is what I know of so far)
    Thud buster why not a full suspension

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimi1885 View Post
    Thud buster why not a full suspension
    Good question. No thudbuster; FS + dropper seatpost if you're really serious into AM.

    hee hee.

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    riding a 26 is more fun than a 29. Industry pushing 29 cuz they want to upsell people bikes. In the olympics, there was agood amount of 26er in top 10 despite industry having bias towards 29. So, 26 is more fun, and just as fast as 29. 650b is too new, don't go that route.

    Buy a used 26 bike. Take advantage of that fact ppl want to try newest greatest.

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    I'm about your height OP and have a 19" 29er. I'd prefer 17.5 or 18 now but I'm comfortable. If the large is too big, try Medium. If you don't like either, try a different bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob13bob View Post
    riding a 26 is more fun TO ME than a 29. Industry pushing 29 cuz they want to upsell people bikes. In the olympics, there was agood amount of 26er in top 10 despite industry having bias towards 29. So, 26 is more fun TO ME, and just as fast as 29. 650b is too new, don't go that route.

    Buy a used 26 bike. Take advantage of that fact ppl want to try newest greatest.
    Fixed it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob13bob View Post
    riding a 26 is more fun than a 29. Industry pushing 29 cuz they want to upsell people bikes. In the olympics, there was agood amount of 26er in top 10 despite industry having bias towards 29. So, 26 is more fun, and just as fast as 29. 650b is too new, don't go that route.

    Buy a used 26 bike. Take advantage of that fact ppl want to try newest greatest.
    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    Fixed it for you.

    Remember boys and girls, opinions are not facts
    Lol,

    I think B13b is right though in general. The 26er is more agile than more stable 29er. Smaller wheels bikes are easier to manual, wheelie, and ok flick around. 29er HT seems to be the choice for racers because they can roll over obstacles found on typical XC race courses without resorting to FS.

    Many beginners like them because they are easier to control especially on the descend, and they don't need to move their body mass much to get good tires traction during braking or cornering. I think the best way I can relate to this is like driving 2 different cars, SUV V.S. Sedan and, 2 different transmission, manual V.S.

    650b is another animal altogether. I don't see many noobs on it, mostly tinkerers and enthusiasts. Most questions posted are more fits, and geometry, and compatibility, something that noobs don't care about.

    I ride all 3 wheel sizes and different frame designs I like them all and I love the choices. However, my go-to bike is a 6.5"-travel-26er

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    I use 26" tubes for my 29" Racing Ralphs. They expand fine and no pinch flats in hundreds of tech trail miles. Many do the same.

    18-20psi front and 20-25 for the rear.






    Quote Originally Posted by telemike View Post
    We were camping in the lundy canyon campground for a couple of weeks last year. I snake eyed the two tubes I had with me until they were unpatchable. No bike shop in June lake, but the grocery store in Lee Vining had 26" tubes.

    All MTB oriented bike shops will have all three tube sizes, but all MTB trails are not near MTB bike shops.

    Almost all hardware stores will have 26" tubes. Good luck with 650b in Gelach NV etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Hartman View Post
    Let me explain me too, I want to get a bike I will still be happy with 3 years from now. Not just get something, and wish 3 months from now I got something else.
    After 3 years (if not well before) you will have a much better understanding of your riding style and bikes in general. Buy a bike ride it. Learn from the experience then buy a new bike when the time comes.
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    well, i went to another lbs, harpeth bicycles in franklin tn. They were ridiculous. I drove over an hour to check out their line of giant bicycles. and when i get there ( according to internet site they close at 7 ) 5 til 6 they were closing up shop, and turning the lights off, i asked to look at a bike and they said "well if you come back some other time i'd love to show you, but we are closing now." what a joke, I guess they make enough money as is and don't need to sell anymore bikes? bad LBS experience in all, I even stuck around and looked at the bike to see if they would pull it out... That was a big no. So, fail.

    Anyways, I'll go and search some more until i find what I want. I'm sure i'll find something soon.

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