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    How to jump a log pile?

    Will someone please explain how to jump a log pile properly?
    I only have curbs, parking lot barriers, and log piles to practice on. I found what seems to be a pretty good log jumping tutorial except for a unclear reference to making a "X" back a few inches from the platform edge (???)
    http://www.adksports.com/jumploghowto.html
    Will someone please explain further?
    I have been barely managing to roll over small log piles, but yesterday two log piles separated by about eight feet of trail, sent me to a nasty over the handle bars head banging crash.
    I'm riding a 2002 Specialized Enduro Pro.
    Thanks in advance,
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    I just read that link and I don't think it's got much good info in it.

    This bit is just wrong: lean forward slightly and use your feet (a pedal/cleat system is needed so your shoes are firmly attached to the pedals) to lift the rear wheel
    yeah BMX riders have never been able to get their rear wheel off the ground.

    Couple of questions

    What do you mean by "pile of logs"?

    What do you mean by "jump"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gumbymark
    I just read that link and I don't think it's got much good info in it.

    This bit is just wrong: lean forward slightly and use your feet (a pedal/cleat system is needed so your shoes are firmly attached to the pedals) to lift the rear wheel
    yeah BMX riders have never been able to get their rear wheel off the ground.

    Couple of questions

    What do you mean by "pile of logs"?

    What do you mean by "jump"?
    By a pile of logs, I mean a 18-24 inch stack of a few logs.
    By jumping, I mean to traverse, rollover, and then land wheels down, bike vertical, without falling?
    Can you explain and critique the video in the link cited above?

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    I'm not that comfortable giving a "how to" guide for a log rollover I've never seen/ridden.

    Because there are (slightly) different techniques based on how the log is built up, the run into it and the landing side.

    In the link you posted it's really unclear to me WHAT he is describing. (the vid just wont work on my computer).

    I don't under stand what is meant by "platform" or why you want to hit your back wheel on it.

    If you are JUMPING OFF a log then you using the log like a jump ramp.

    If you are JUMPING a log then your rear wheel (and front) shouldn't touch any of the log
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    I just watched the video. Not what I would call a jump at all - They are just doing a wheelie and landing the front tire on the top of the obstacle then pulling the rear over.

    The "x" reference just means time your wheelie so your front wheel lands on top of the log. Just like riding up a curb.

    On a side note, the technique shown there is not my method. i just wheelie over the top and pedal over.

    For the over the bars issue, keep your weight back as you exit the log pile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason B.
    I just watched the video. Not what I would call a jump at all - They are just doing a wheelie and landing the front tire on the top of the obstacle then pulling the rear over.

    The "x" reference just means time your wheelie so your front wheel lands on top of the log. Just like riding up a curb.

    On a side note, the technique shown there is not my method. i just wheelie over the top and pedal over.

    For the over the bars issue, keep your weight back as you exit the log pile.
    Ok, now I understand that the "X" is just a point where the front wheel should be lifted so it can roll over the log.
    Thanks.
    Does anyone have any other tips and/or links about getting over log piles & tall obstacles?

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    Unweight the front end, have sufficient momentum going into it, shift your butt back behind the seat as you roll over the other side.

    Is this the sort of thing you mean?

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    VDO didn't work for me so sorry,but from what the guy was saying I don't know if I'd follow that instruction.

    It would be nice to have a pic to see what you are talking about. A loose stacking log is not something I'd practice on. Does it have flat top with ramp(transition) on both sides? How big is each log? Lots to answer for a more advance maneuver.

    In general, manual is a better technique to practice for getting on/off something 18-24 inch especially if it has transition. Since I don't have a good picture of what you are dealing with.

    For example, according to the instruction if you want to get up to the curb that's a foot tall. He wanted you to pop a wheelie(that mean you are sitting and pedaling) as you approach the curb and put the front wheel on top, then immediately unweighted the rear to get the rear up.

    What I would do is getting in an attack position butt off the saddle, approach the curb at a jogging speed.

    If the curb is a foot tall I'd want to take off about a foot before. Manual the front wheel up the curb, once there roll your grip forward as you move your body toward the handle bar unweighting the rear wheel over the curb. It's what I would do, it required no pedaling just move your weight around the bike. Manual feels more natural and easier to do than a pedaling wheelie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picassomoon
    Unweight the front end, have sufficient momentum going into it, shift your butt back behind the seat as you roll over the other side.

    Is this the sort of thing you mean?

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    Yes it is.
    Looks like the rider lifted the front wheel, then shifted his weight forward as the front wheel is over the log, then immediately shifted his weight rearward, and the rear wheel rolls over the log. Is this observation correct?

    Thanks

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    If that's the kind of logs then try this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryjmh...ated:thumbsup:

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    Hi Everyone, below is a picture of the stretch of trail at Maybury that I was having a problem with. There are 3 obstacles, 1st a log pile, then 4 paces away another log, and further on and barely visible in this picture, a rock pile. It has been my short term goal to cross the log pile, stop, and continue working on crossing the other 2 obstacles, while remaining vertical, some other time.
    Well, with you advice, and by the grace of Jesus, I made it over the 1st 2 obstacles.
    I unweighted the front of the bike as suggested, lifted the front wheel, and was over the log pile before I new it. I had planned to stop there, But I was at the next log so fast, that I couldn't.
    I did the same maneuver and was over the 2nd obstacle without a problem. I decided not to try the rock pile, but save it for another day.
    I want to thank everyone for their help, and am posting to let others with the same concerns benefit from this thread.
    Thanks again.


    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/27544233@N03/4625440276/" title="Maybury A by Uniconz, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4625440276_f98d3769d2_o.jpg" width="1152" height="864" alt="Maybury A" /></a>
    Last edited by Unicornz0; 05-20-2010 at 06:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unicornz0
    Hi Everyone, below is a picture of the stretch of trail at Maybury that I was having a problem with. There are 3 obstacles, 1st a log pile, then 4 paces away another log, and further on and barely visible in this picture, a rock pile. It has been my short term goal to cross the log pile, stop, and continue working on crossing the other 2 obstacles, while remaining vertical, some other time.
    Well, with you advice, and by the grace of Jesus, I made it over the 1st 2 obstacles.
    I unweighted the front of the bike as suggested, lifted the front wheel, and was over the log pile before I new it. I had planned to stop there, But I was at the next log so fast, that I couldn't.
    I did the same maneuver and was over the 2nd obstacle without a problem. I decided not to try the rock pile, but save it for another day.
    I want to thank everyone for their help, and post to let others with the same concerns benefit from this thread.
    Thanks again.
    Looks like you can roll your front wheel over the log w/o jumping. You can try this rock garden vid, in the middle somewhere I see that he roll the front wheel off a rock that's about 24" it should be easier. Manual does help a lot.

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