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    How To Identify...

    ...exactly what rear derailleur came on my old bike. It's from '95 so not a lot of resources out there. I know its a Shimano XT rear derailleur, but nothing else.
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    found a web page that says it came with "Shimano Deore XT SS". What does the SS stand for?
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    SS would refer to the cage length.

    SGS = long
    SG = medium
    SS = short

    The odd thing is, Shimano stopped making XT rear derailleurs with an SS cage in 1993.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanetti
    SS would refer to the cage length.

    SGS = long
    SG = medium
    SS = short

    The odd thing is, Shimano stopped making XT rear derailleurs with an SS cage in 1993.

    That is weird, because so far everyone I have spoken to says that I would need a long cage for the bike. I know the bike is from '95. Maybe the web site is wrong. Is there a serial number or model number somewhere on the derailleurs I'm missing?
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    Well.... I have 22/32/42 crank set and the cassette is an 8 speed with 11 teeth on the small end and 28 on the higher end. I would need a long rear derailleur for sure.... right?
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    yeah, unless you dont use big ring-big cog combo or the small ring-small cog combo
    i ride my bi*ch hard

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    Quote Originally Posted by brubakes
    That is weird, because so far everyone I have spoken to says that I would need a long cage for the bike. I know the bike is from '95. Maybe the web site is wrong. Is there a serial number or model number somewhere on the derailleurs I'm missing?
    This is your bike, right?



    That is most certainly a long cage rear derailleur. You might be able to get away with a mid cage if you're careful about cross chaining.

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    I can almost guarantee it came with a long cage (ie SGS). I worked in a shop that sold those Diamond Back WCF bikes, and though it was a while ago, I'm pretty confident it would have came with a long cage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanetti
    This is your bike, right?



    That is most certainly a long cage rear derailleur. You might be able to get away with a mid cage if you're careful about cross chaining.
    Yup, thats my baby.

    Quote Originally Posted by the_godfather
    yeah, unless you dont use big ring-big cog combo or the small ring-small cog combo
    What do you mean? If I have have the gears and they were able able to be used before, I want to make sure they are all able to be used again. I know its not idea going from one extreme to the other, but it had always worked up until I broke this derailleur.
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    In theory any 8 speed long rear derailleur should work? There are a lot on ebay.
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    Yep, any long cage shimano 8 or 9 speed speed rear derailleur will work fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanetti
    Yep, any long cage shimano 8 or 9 speed speed rear derailleur will work fine.
    being the bike is an 8 speed are there pros and cons for getting a dérailleur thats a 9 speed?
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    A 9 spd derailleur will work well with 8 spd shifters.
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    Doh! There is a model number right on the backside of the rear derailleur. The old bent one is an RD-737. Can anyone tell me if a XTR RD-M952 should bolt right in its place?
    '07 Giant Anthem 2
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    it sould bolt right up as long as it is a SGS ( long cage ) model

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    thanks everyone for your help. I just got done installing my "new" XTR rear derailleur on my good old WCF Vertex. Shifts much better then the old bent XT and I'm glad I did the job myself. Again, thanks for helping a n00b!
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    Umm, what's a cage? Is that the part of the derailer that goes up and down when you shift?


    Yeah, I'm a noob, trying to learn about components.

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    the cage is the arm of the RD that extends down from the main body. it houses the upper guide pully and lower tension pully.

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