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    How to get a Deal from your LBS

    The title sounds kinda stupid but i think its a legit question. Reason why im asking i was at one of my LBS looking at a 2011 Cannondale Trail 4 and the guy i was talking to said that the bike was on sale/closeout for 600$ reg is 779$ sucks for me because i was just looking at the time. So i called back a week later to see if by chance they got a new supply in and the guy said they have 2 Trail 4 and a Trail 1 i think and when i asked the prices on the Trail 4 he said 779$ but a few days earlier it was on sale. I really want to get the bike but only if i can get it for 600$ i wish i would of remembered they guy who i was talking to at first but i totally forgot

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    Try visiting the shop in person, nothing productive was ever accomplished over the phone.

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    Mostly, you have to get lucky and be in the shop at the right time and be willing to strike while the iron is hot. Closeouts happen on the shop's schedule, not on yours. That's just the way life is.

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    When I bought my bike, its MSRP was $510, I did a little research to see what the bike was going for, for other people. I went in and told them I would like it for $450 and that worked. Just try to find out what everyone else is paying for the bike OTD and go from there. All they can tell you is no!

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    If you can find someone who is also buying a bike, go together. LBS will likely give you both a discount if bought at the same time.

    I got my C'dale F5 on clearance at the same time as a buddy of mine (Rockhopper). Total deducted was close to $100. Then when we picked up the bikes, another friend also purchased a bike at a discount (-$30), which incidentally, was already on clearance as well.

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    Just go back and tell them that one guy apparently told you that this bike would be kept in stock for you, because you did not had the money last time (bank problem, etc)... Then if you are lucky, they will be happy to make another sale and you will come by later for more business with them

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    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    Based on my experiences with my LBS, if the item isn't on sale any more...then its not on sale anymore. Last Oct I had a similar situation when I was buying my 2010 Cannondale F2, I saw the bike priced on a closeout special price on the web and in-store, spoke to associates on more than one occasion, even test rode the bike and when it was time to buy a week later.. the sale had experienced and I had to pay full price for my ride and accessories/gear. I even asked at the time of purchase about the sale price and they said sorry...Well thats my story... good luck with getting them to help you out. Maybe offering straight cash might get you 10 percent off...who knows.

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    If they could sell the bike for 600 last week, they could sell it for 600 this week (maybe). Unless the new batch cost them more of course.

    Go to shop.
    You - "What the heck! Weren't these bikes just $600? I finally saved the $600, and now they cost more???!!!"

    Bike shop guy: "Yeah, that was a sale, but it is over. "

    You - "Well I've got this $600 in my pocket right now and I'm going to buy a new bike with it, like today. What can you do for me? I really don't want to go shopping around to shop X, Y and Z. "

    At that point, they might deal just to get your business and keep the other guys from getting it. Or they might not, but at least you will know that you tried.

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    There was never an AD saying sale just when i was looking at the price they guy was like oh since we only have 2 left they are both on closeout sale at 600$. I dont know its like the more i look online and in store i see another possibility, maybe because im a newbie but i dont know. Anyways not to drag on but i was looking at the 2012 Giant Boulder 1 and now im liking that who know anyways i plan to buy something this weekend wish me luck

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    try crying a little bit.

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    No that I think about it more.... just pull a Randy Moss on them, they wont know what hit em.... tell the sales guy, "Straight cash hommie!!"

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    Having cash ready always help... even more if you told them you might look somewhere else...
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    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David C View Post
    Having cash ready always help... even more if you told them you might look somewhere else...
    Yea I thought about telling them I was gonna look somewhere else BUT it sucks that as big of a city I live in it's only 1 authorized Cannondale/Giant retailer. Everyone else sells Trek, Fuji, GT, Raliegh, etc. So I'm guessing that approach won't work lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    try crying a little bit.
    Yeah, and show a little leg

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    I learned my lesson, never buy a same year model that you're currently in.
    That helps, it's what I've been shopping around for.

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    what! they are totally ripping you off... that bike does not sell for that amount, perhaps Los Angeles is different, but everywhere i've looked its selling for about $550 without sales...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reice05 View Post
    Yea I thought about telling them I was gonna look somewhere else BUT it sucks that as big of a city I live in it's only 1 authorized Cannondale/Giant retailer. Everyone else sells Trek, Fuji, GT, Raliegh, etc. So I'm guessing that approach won't work lol
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    topless. that's what all mtb girls do. we go ride, get topless, have pillow fights in the woods, scissor, then ride home!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeyJake View Post
    I learned my lesson, never buy a same year model that you're currently in.
    That helps, it's what I've been shopping around for.
    That's a good strategy, and a lot of people have that strategy, which is why the manufacturers are always trying to change stuff every year. 2011 bikes will be cheaper in 2012, but you are really going to want the new square axle they are coming out with next year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    That's a good strategy, and a lot of people have that strategy, which is why the manufacturers are always trying to change stuff every year. 2011 bikes will be cheaper in 2012, but you are really going to want the new square axle they are coming out with next year!

    So true. I'd love to have a 29er, but not falling for it. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldollard View Post
    what! they are totally ripping you off... that bike does not sell for that amount, perhaps Los Angeles is different, but everywhere i've looked its selling for about $550 without sales...
    Must be nice to be in LA i can't even find a trail 4 online for 550$

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldollard View Post
    what! they are totally ripping you off... that bike does not sell for that amount, perhaps Los Angeles is different, but everywhere i've looked its selling for about $550 without sales...
    Quote Originally Posted by Reice05 View Post
    Must be nice to be in LA i can't even find a trail 4 online for 550$
    Yea that bike goes for 5.5 around here ... Incycle.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007E View Post
    Yea that bike goes for 5.5 around here ... Incycle.com
    beat me to it, curse you

    http://incycle.com/product/cannondal...sl-4-17435.htm

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    I tried in my area and it sucked. Had cash in hand told them im buying today, no one cared. they would only match competitors which pretty much had similar prices. Pretty pathetic I'm more then likely going online for my bike when just a little customer service would have earned my business. Guess they're all so successful and don't need it.

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    op, just go to the shop and be honest. tell them this bike was $600 last week when i spoke with another salesperson. can i get it for that same price today? i have cash and would like to walk out with it. the worse they can say is no but if they really had it for $600, they can go that low again- unless of course, as another poster pointed out, they had to pay more for it from the manufacturer for some reason. doesn't hurt to try. good luck!

    the part that's concerning is it sounds like this bike is $550 elsewhere so $600 really isn't the best deal. better than $700+ but maybe they're marking up prices a bit.
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    Well the price people are quoting for 550$ is a store in Cali but due to whatever reason it cannot be shipped and I live on the east coast. On the Cannondale site the the msrp is 775$ so 600$ isn't a bad price but I guess the west coast folks get a better deal since they can justdrive to the store

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    I went to my LBS a couple of months ago to get a Rockhopper and walked out with a 2010 Rockhopper for $500 plus tax...Try to stay away from the current models

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    If they could sell the bike for 600 last week, they could sell it for 600 this week (maybe). Unless the new batch cost them more of course.

    Go to shop.
    You - "What the heck! Weren't these bikes just $600? I finally saved the $600, and now they cost more???!!!"

    Bike shop guy: "Yeah, that was a sale, but it is over. "

    You - "Well I've got this $600 in my pocket right now and I'm going to buy a new bike with it, like today. What can you do for me? I really don't want to go shopping around to shop X, Y and Z. "

    At that point, they might deal just to get your business and keep the other guys from getting it. Or they might not, but at least you will know that you tried.
    exactly, go in there with your 600 dollars and make it happen!

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    I was also looking into the rockhopper, so many bikes to choose from in that price range and contrary to what people say there really can be a shocking difference in quality it is not all the same at all.

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    Bear in mind that shops in different locations will have different expenses. If a shop in NY has to pay a bajillion dollars for the storage space their retail bikes are occupying, you can bet that they're going to be selling at closer to MSRP than a shop someplace with nothing but desert behind it. It's a cultural thing too - paying less than retail in Seattle seems to be harder than in other cities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reice05 View Post
    There was never an AD saying sale just when i was looking at the price they guy was like oh since we only have 2 left they are both on closeout sale at 600$. I dont know its like the more i look online and in store i see another possibility, maybe because im a newbie but i dont know. Anyways not to drag on but i was looking at the 2012 Giant Boulder 1 and now im liking that who know anyways i plan to buy something this weekend wish me luck
    Have you actually taken any of them for a test ride? If not, I highly suggest you start doing so before deciding to just buy some random bike you read about on the interwebz... just sayin'

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    I race for my LBS so thats how I get 20% off everything except team Jerseys.
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    Blow them in gimble's window

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    ^^^
    Haven't paid retail for anything big in a few years for similar reasons. Due to our contract being top secret (srsly? we're an amateur team. doesn't everyone get a deal??) I can't say more.

    EDIT: Oops. I sort-of paid retail for some Specialized shoes. Birthday present, at the wrong time to use a hookup. Oh well. They rock, and I don't get any deals on that brand anytime anyway.
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    blow them in gimble's window.

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    Checked out a few LBS in the area that carried different manufacturers. Saw a Trek that I liked at one shop and a Scott that I liked better at another shop (Better components for roughly the same price). Told the dude I was getting X deal on the Trek (really wasn't though) and asked if he could match it. Came back with the right number and presto.. Paid way more then I ever dreamed of paying for my first bike.. lol. But felt I got a good deal so couldn't say no, and now I couldn't be happier with my rig. Thats my story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reice05 View Post
    Yea I thought about telling them I was gonna look somewhere else BUT it sucks that as big of a city I live in it's only 1 authorized Cannondale/Giant retailer. Everyone else sells Trek, Fuji, GT, Raliegh, etc. So I'm guessing that approach won't work lol
    just a guess... Do you live in the Hampton Roads area?

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    Yea Va Beach

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    As my father always said "Cash is King" ... where ever you go and you tell them you have cash the service is always a level higher...

    When I got my Hardrock 29er... I went with cash and told him straight up this is what I want to pay for the bike or else I'm going elsewhere... He told he could meet me halfway... 800$ was the price I wanted 700$... he gave me 750$ plus a computer, water bottle, lizard skin, plus 40% off of anything I wanted.

    I was happy! Btw this was in CND $$$

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    For me, getting the best deal at a LBS has always been due to being in the right place at the right time and talking to the right person.

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    I walked in the LBS and told them $xxxx was all the money I had to spend on a bike, showed him the cash and then told him the only one they had I liked was "that one". Said thanks for his time and started out the door, the salesperson asked me to wait a moment. The manager then came over and made the discount. Cash in hand has always worked well for me.

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    I thought id post an update on my bike search well today i went to the BIG DOG bike store in my area and it was busy as hell...Anyways i been looking at the Giant Revel 1 for probally around a week so i went today and all they had was 2 left and just my luck there was 2 guys looking at both of them ( i like the black and red better ). So they walked around and was looking at some other bikes and a salesperson came asking if i needed help. I told him i liked the Revel 1 and that i was just stopping by to see what they had to offer and that i was really planning to go to the other LBS around the corner to take a look at the Trek 3900. The Revel 1 was 499.99 and i told him all i had was 435$ and that the Trek was having a big sale that ended today thats why my original plan was to go to the other LBS to check out the Trek, WITH NO HESISTATION he was like yea we can do 435$ for the Revel inside i was like lol but in my head i was like because maybe i could of got it a little lower. But all in all i thnk i got a pretty goo deal saving 65$ plus tax, thier the only LBS around my area that sells Giant. I'll post pics later in this thread and in the Giant forum just because

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reice05 View Post
    I thought id post an update on my bike search well today i went to the BIG DOG bike store in my area and it was busy as hell...Anyways i been looking at the Giant Revel 1 for probally around a week so i went today and all they had was 2 left and just my luck there was 2 guys looking at both of them ( i like the black and red better ). So they walked around and was looking at some other bikes and a salesperson came asking if i needed help. I told him i liked the Revel 1 and that i was just stopping by to see what they had to offer and that i was really planning to go to the other LBS around the corner to take a look at the Trek 3900. The Revel 1 was 499.99 and i told him all i had was 435$ and that the Trek was having a big sale that ended today thats why my original plan was to go to the other LBS to check out the Trek, WITH NO HESISTATION he was like yea we can do 435$ for the Revel inside i was like lol but in my head i was like because maybe i could of got it a little lower. But all in all i thnk i got a pretty goo deal saving 65$ plus tax, thier the only LBS around my area that sells Giant. I'll post pics later in this thread and in the Giant forum just because
    The cheaper the bike, the smaller the margins...yeah you could have perhaps snagged it for 400 or even 375, but in reality its 25 to 50 bucks...over 3, 4, 5 or more years of ownership it really doesn't matter a whole lot...not enough worth fretting over

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    Best way to get a deal is to buy a Demo bike, one year old, same warranty, much better price, I just picked up a 2011 Specialized Epic Comp 29er Test Bike for more then one third off,no taxes. This is the time of year to replacing the 2011 Demo bikes.. I got what I think is a bonus, the bike is painted different then other bikes, probably to locate if not returned from the trail.. I know the other paint jobs look better, but I still like this paint job, even better then some of the standard ones, with the hunter orange I'll feel a bit safer during our 6 1/2 month hunting season..
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    I'd be interesting in what the markup is on a bike. I imagine much greater on a high end model. Now I'm not suggesting LBS should not make money. They have staff, electric, rent etc. Just curious. Anybody who works in an LBS care to chime in?

    Look if they get a bike for $2300 I believe that selling it for $4600 is a bit much but Im not too clear on this.

    After all, how many bikes do they sell in a month? If they sell 3 or 4 and they make a couple of grand per bike: after rent, electric, salaries etc. Not much left.


    Just wondering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drjay9051 View Post
    I'd be interesting in what the markup is on a bike. I imagine much greater on a high end model. Now I'm not suggesting LBS should not make money. They have staff, electric, rent etc. Just curious. Anybody who works in an LBS care to chime in?

    Look if they get a bike for $2300 I believe that selling it for $4600 is a bit much but Im not too clear on this.

    After all, how many bikes do they sell in a month? If they sell 3 or 4 and they make a couple of grand per bike: after rent, electric, salaries etc. Not much left.


    Just wondering?
    What's wrong with that scenario? If the MSRP on a bike is 4600 and cost is 2300 who cares? LBS's have to make money and they SHOULD make money as you stated. Around our the LBS doesn't sell a 5,000 dollar bike every day. When they do I hope they make money. I got my bike or 25% off, I know the LBS could have gone lower but frankly I wanted them to make money. I want them to be there in five years...

    Besides, I've never been to an LBS that didn't give at least 10% off on bikes that cost more than 1,500 bucks...just my 2 cents

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    Besides, I've never been to an LBS that didn't give at least 10% off on bikes that cost more than 1,500 bucks...just my 2 cents [/QUOTE]

    No argument there. Just wondering how it all works. hey if the price is agreeable to the buyer and seller: No problem.

    Just wondering how much "wiggle room' there is when buying from an LBS.

    Yes I want them to be there as well.

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    If a shop gets a bike at cost for $2,300 they aren't going to sell it for $4,600. Bike shops don't have a 50% margin; closer to 40%. Believe it or not, the shop makes it's money on parts and accessories, not the big ticket items like bikes. It is a business to run and there are bills to pay, parts to buy to stock our shelves with, and they still have to pay employees. When you pay for a bike, the shop usually throws in a ($30 value) bottle/cage, a free 30 day tune up (usually about $60), and you get that relationship with the bike shop, where you value their service and they value your business.
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    Here's pics i promised, i know its not one of the $1000+ MackDaddy of Mountain bikes but its my first REAL bike and im happy with it
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    Nice ride Reice, Giant makes a good entry machine at an affordable price. My first real suspension ride was a Rainier and I loved that bike. Wish I still had it and considered getting a Revel as a HT.

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    I have the same exact bike! It's a great ride. The fork is super entry level as you'll see. Go hit the trails now!!

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