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    Good deals or no?

    Ok, here's a few of my options for my 1st decent bike, just looking for some advice. I'm mainly looking for trail riding. I'm 6"1, 190 with a 32" inseam.

    Bike 1-Specialized S Works Aluminum Frame 18.5"
    Bike 2-Klein Attitude Comp 19" frame

    Both of these bikes have minor wear, both have been recently serviced and both I can get for under $400. Would these be good deals for under $400?
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    My first thought is to get the one with the rigid fork and disk brake tabs. Other that that I don't know anything about these bikes. I doubt those are great deals.

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    Re: Good deals or no?

    Just from what I know I would say neither are worth nearly 400 bucks. The s works is a decent frame but to get you a suspension fork will ring you some money you probably don't want to drop. 400+

    I would keep saving your money....look on pinkbike.com, and do lots of research, watch videos, hit up your lbs and demo some stuff.

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    Try to get them for 200.00, then that would be great deal.

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    Thanks for the advice guys. Like I said, I'm not too knowledgeable when it comes to Mountain Bikes. I know the top brands but there are just so many different bikes out there. I'm not going to be climbing mountains or anything like that but I do want something with a semi smooth ride as I do plan on doing a lot of riding this summer and fall. Anything I'll be buying will be used and in the $200-$400 range. Again, thanks and any other advice is greatly appreciated.

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    Re: Good deals or no?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1362 View Post
    Try to get them for 200.00, then that would be great deal.
    I agree with this. The specialized would be my pick.

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    Good deals or no?

    Those are both obsolete. Back in the day they were heros, but there are better options today. They are worth $250, but spend your $250 elsewhere ...: down payment towards a new or used 2x10 speed $600-1000 hard tail 29er.

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    Re: Good deals or no?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott In MD View Post
    Those are both obsolete. Back in the day they were heros, but there are better options today. They are worth $250, but spend your $250 elsewhere ...: down payment towards a new or used 2x10 speed $600-1000 hard tail 29er.
    If this is a first bike for op then I would say go for it. Its not wasting money if you learn to maintain, ride, crash, and discover what you actually want in a nice bike. I have a 2004 copy frame with a specialized fsr enduro rear triangle mounted with a first gen fox float r and 98 z1 Marz bomber forks. Probably worth about 250....if that. What have I learned? A **** TON.

    If I would have ridden a bike from the lbs before I terrorized Terra firma on this ancient sled I would have probably ended up wasting money on a bad fit and/or wrong kind of bike.

    I can now go into a bike shop and have a feel for what I want.

    In the end it doesn't matter what you ride. Its if you ride. Make sure the bikes are comfy for you and run it through all the gears. Listen for little **** like with a used car. Enjoy the two wheels of terror.

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    Good deals or no?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptoroxx View Post
    If this is a first bike for op then I would say go for it. Its not wasting money if you learn to maintain, ride, crash, and discover what you actually want in a nice bike. I have a 2004 copy frame with a specialized fsr enduro rear triangle mounted with a first gen fox float r and 98 z1 Marz bomber forks. Probably worth about 250....if that. What have I learned? A **** TON.
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    Ok. Go for the Spesh and upgrade the fork later.

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    The Specialized S-Works M5 frame is a fake.

    Fake frames have different dropouts to the real frames.

    Fake 2003 Specialized S-Works M5:



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    Fake 2006 Specialized S-Works M5: * These bikes are being sold in the Philippines.

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    Another Fake S-Works * This bike is being sold in the Philippines too.

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    Real 2002 S-Works M5

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    Fake 2002 S-Works 'M4'

    This would probably be the worst of the fakes.
    Wrong color, wrong dropouts, brace on the seat/top tube, pannier mounts on the seat stays and a 'M4' frame not a 'M5' frame.
    2001 S-Works frames were M4 but they weren't painted that way or with that color paint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobba View Post
    The Specialized S-Works M5 frame is a fake.
    I had a hunch it was, but I wasn't an expert enough to comment so I'm glad you said this. How could you tell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegweed View Post
    I had a hunch it was, but I wasn't an expert enough to comment so I'm glad you said this. How could you tell?
    I added some photos.

    There's various differences and some fakes are better then others.

    The differences can be the Dropouts, the Cable Stops, the Decals, the Paint, having Pannier Mounts and the Frame Shape.

    The dropouts on the fakes are always different to the real ones.

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    Re: Good deals or no?

    Yeah I'm in that boat too. Didn't even think about it being a fake. Thanks for the catch.

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    It's funny you brought that up and I really appreciate it! When I spoke to him yesterday he gave me a whole story about the bike. He told me he bought it in Penang Malaysia in 2005. I'll be passing on this bike and I really appreciate the help!!

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    I've been in contact with this person in regards to this bike and I'm going to take a look at it later. cannondale mountain bike

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    Re: Good deals or no?

    Not worth 400 IMO. However I took the liberty of checking out your cl area. The specialized epic I would offer around 400-500. The other one worth looking at is the gt avalanche. That would be worth 400 in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptoroxx View Post
    Not worth 400 IMO. However I took the liberty of checking out your cl area. The specialized epic I would offer around 400-500. The other one worth looking at is the gt avalanche. That would be worth 400 in my book.

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    Left a message with the specialized epic seller. Also had some interest in this,
    Aluminum GT Mountain Bike

    I read some reviews on the bike and they were pretty good. If I could get him down to $225-$250, would that be a decent deal?

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    Re: Good deals or no?

    I would do that for your price range. Its a little old but it looks like it is in good shape. The only problem might be the fork. It might need a rebuild and parts are harder to come by for older forks. I had a bit of trouble finding parts for my z1 bombers.

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    I'd go for the Klein. $400 is not too bad.

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    Ok, just spoke to a guy about this bike. Just had a recent tuneup. Has some upgrades. Sounds like I can get him to budge on his price. I'm going to take it for a spin and if all feels good, comfortable and good shape, would $400 be paying too much?

    G.T Avalanche, disc brakes, LX drive - $400

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    Re: Good deals or no?

    Nope...I would say cheaper is better but 400 isn't horrible. Its a more modern bike with parts you will be able to maintain easier.

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    Good deals or no?

    Is $600 plus $75 more for a shop build in your budget?

    http://www.airbornebicycles.com/prod...dian-29er.aspx

    Warranty, user-friendly geometry and gears, 29" wheels and disc brakes.

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    You brought up a great point Scott. That is a great bike for not a lot of money and it's NEW. There is a lot to be said for being the first person to be riding the bike.

    I've so far rebuilt my forks, had to re-run brake cables and other odds and ends because I have a used bike. I don't necessarily mind doing these things but I have had to troubleshoot stuff that I wasn't quite sure what I was looking at lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimi1885 View Post
    I'd go for the Klein. $400 is not too bad.
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