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    First DownHill Bike

    ok, well i have a specialized 05' specialized hardrock disk...... gonna take it to my first race in a few weekends.....only done xc riding before and 5ft jumps

    if this bike racing thing works out, im looking for a full suspension mountain bike in the 800$-1500$ range.......i was thinking about a k2 or somekind of ironhorse


    any help is great

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    There are a coupple things to think about after you do your 1st DH race. Dou you need a DH specific bike or something more like a FR/DH bike. For most courses 6-7 inches travel is pleanty enough. A dedicated DH bike will run you over 2 G's & is designed to race DH.
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    what do you mean by FR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    what do you mean by FR?
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    ooooo..... thanx

    are K2 bikes any good...do real racers ride them?......rei has some on sale with hydraulic brakes and blah blah for like 1g..... but i havnt heard of people riding them......all i mostly hear about is kona, specialized, iron horse, and yeti, and scott

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    ooooo..... thanx

    are K2 bikes any good...do real racers ride them?......rei has some on sale with hydraulic brakes and blah blah for like 1g..... but i havnt heard of people riding them......all i mostly hear about is kona, specialized, iron horse, and yeti, and scott
    Are you looking to race CHDH?

    You should come out & ride Dominican this Sat in SR. You ever riden Pacifica?
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    CH????

    so ur saying 2g+ for a pretty decent bike then....well that means i gotta work more this summer..do'h

    wheres dominican???

    ive ridden in Pacifica like by the beach and that pier...but never on boyscout or any of those official mb trails

    i don't get my drivers license till September, and my dad takes me to p-town only like 2-3x a month, mabe hell take me to boyscout in a cuple weekends though

    im kinda stuck ridin trails IN san francisco......but its better than nothing

    i wanted to go to fat tire, but the actual race is on mothers day.....whens the next big race around here??

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    You need to get out & ride some real trails beffor you get head over heals into buying a DH bike or attempting to race DH. I live across the bay in Pinole & work in Sausalito. If you can get your dad to take you to San Rafael next Sat we will be riding by Dominican College. Depending on your height i can let you ride a FS, Full Suspension, 5in travel bike. It is a loop that generally takes about 2 hours.

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    looks good.....ill c if i can go

    but i read that the bike shop off hwy1 in pacifica can tell me where to go to boyscout and crack, and that those 2 trails are pretty close to some firewood trails....and you can bike there from the shop i think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    looks good.....ill c if i can go

    but i read that the bike shop off hwy1 in pacifica can tell me where to go to boyscout and crack, and that those 2 trails are pretty close to some firewood trails....and you can bike there from the shop i think?
    You really dont want to ride Crack or Mile till you get more experience. Dominican is a sweet place to test your skills.

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    Now now, not all downhill bikes are over 2gs, the vast majority of them are, but if you search long and hard you can find some killer deals. start out looking at the Iron Horse Yakuza Type R you can get an 06 model with really good parts for around 1600. Check out performancebikes.com

    its a great bike, I race mine
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    Quote Originally Posted by BKnight
    Now now, not all downhill bikes are over 2gs, the vast majority of them are, but if you search long and hard you can find some killer deals. start out looking at the Iron Horse Yakuza Type R you can get an 06 model with really good parts for around 1600. Check out performancebikes.com

    its a great bike, I race mine
    He needs to get out & ride some real trails & find out what he really wants. Looking at pictures, vids & those sex long legged DH bikes will tempt anyone. He lives near me & i am offering him the chance to ride a FS bike & se what he is capable of. I have brought many to the dark side of gravity but it's good to know there skills & develop them. Spending 1500 on a bike he may only get to rid 2 times on a DH course & the rest riding Golden Gate park is a waste of money.

    Im not knocking your suggestion, it is a excelent choice. Just thinking with the big head.
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    Crack and Mile is not someplace you'd want to ride as a beginner... Hell, it kicks quite a lot of intermediete butt... I'd say come on out for a ride with me and dogonfr... XD

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    Dogon, I think im gonna go ride in pacifica firday or saturday

    yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!



    just so i kno.......if im buying a used bike, what what should I watch out for and look for

    for example,
    how much should something like this go for: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/327844449.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    Dogon, I think im gonna go ride in pacifica firday or saturday

    yeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!



    just so i kno.......if im buying a used bike, what what should I watch out for and look for

    for example,
    how much should something like this go for: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/327844449.html
    That Kona is probibly worth about 1100, wheels are the best thing on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    That Kona is probibly worth about 1100, wheels are the best thing on it.
    Buying a used rental bike would scare the crap out of me. Would you take pains to keep a rental in great shape? Me neither. Maintence is probably pretty shoddy (though Whistler is probably better than most), and it's been ridden by lots of people who don't give a crap about keeping in in good shape.



    I'm with dogonfr, you need to do some more riding and figure out what really floats yer boat. A full on DH bike probably dosn't make sense as your only bike, since it's going to really suck for doing anything other than racing DH. Pedaling uphill? Forget it. Somthing more versatile, like an Iron Horse 7point, Ibex Zone, Kona Stinky, etc might be a better choice.

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    Wow the expert has spoken, LOL, is a good deal and best to avoid the new bike shills IMHO

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    i thought the stinkys were down hill bikes?

    if not, what are they?

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    ok, now I'm really confused as to the difference between all mtn bikes

    downhill, and freeride......wuts the diffrence?

    btw, today I went riding.....there was this 1 new jump i hit, about 3-4 ft tall I think..... landing into a mixture of grass and gravel, and I nailed it everytime I tried it =)

    also, what kind of riding is this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QT50W3Z4O...elated&search=


    sorry for all the questions, but relly dont know much, and Im trying to get into the sport so any info helps


    also, is this a good first race? : http://www.eaglecyclingclub.org/mtbike.htm

    and, is this a decent price for this bike: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/327462925.html
    i dont think its a rental company, i think its a bike shop
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    ok, now I'm really confused as to the difference between all mtn bikes

    downhill, and freeride......wuts the diffrence?

    btw, today I went riding.....there was this 1 new jump i hit, about 3-4 ft tall I think..... landing into a mixture of grass and gravel, and I nailed it everytime I tried it =)

    also, what kind of riding is this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QT50W3Z4O...elated&search=


    sorry for all the questions, but relly dont know much, and Im trying to get into the sport so any info helps
    The begining is 4x because there are 4 riders at a time racing a twisty short course. Then there are babes, woohoo. Now you have DH with sweet crash footage because that is what you will be doing at first.



    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    also, is this a good first race? : http://www.eaglecyclingclub.org/mtbike.htm

    That is a XC race, lots of climbing, takes endurance & about 15 miles per lap.



    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    and, is this a decent price for this bike: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/327462925.html
    i dont think its a rental company, i think its a bike shop
    Excelent price if you dont mind a interupted seat post & a company run by Hitler.
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    what's the downside to an interrupted seatpost?

    ....and what do you mean by "company run by hitler?".....

    is the owner an ass or something?



    o, im free for riding the weekend after memorial day.....

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    An interupted seat tube makes it hard/ impossible to get both a saddle positon that allows for full leg extension for climbing, and a low seat for the trip back down.



    He meant Specialized is a large, soulless company run by Darth Vader.

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    oooooooo.... thanks for clearing those 2 up =)

    is the seat tube still standard size, or is it fatter?

    and whats the upside to having an interruped seat post?....or is it just cheeper for the co. to make?

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    Should be a standard size.




    It's just easy to cram all the linkage bits in there without a seat tube in the way. It's also a potential way to make really short chainstays, without having tire-seat tube interverence under full compression of the rear shock, because there isn't any seat tube to rub the tire on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardtails Are Better
    He meant Specialized is a large, soulless company run by Darth Vader.
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    would i look like an idiot riding a specialized?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    would i look like an idiot riding a specialized?
    Not at all, i have a personal problem with them, there bikes are really nice.
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    HAHAHAHA .....ok.............. i think 850$ for that big hit might not be a bad price

    in my position, would you go for it?...or why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    HAHAHAHA .....ok.............. i think 850$ for that big hit might not be a bad price

    in my position, would you go for it?...or why not?
    try and get a 2006 and above cause the ones before that had a 24" rear wheel... I dont like Specialized either. Big corporate company which steps on the little guys and the guys who helped them to the top... they've got nice bikes though...

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    yea, its an 06'....

    what would have been the reasoning behind a 24" rear wheel????

    .....who have they stpped on to get to the top?

    .......i think now im starting to get wht u called the owner of specialized Hitler and darthvader XD

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    24" rear is more throwable and put's you at an angle which is more up right compared to the 26". 26" has more traction and will be more suitable for trail riding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    .....who have they stpped on to get to the top?

    .......i think now im starting to get wht u called the owner of specialized Hitler and darthvader XD
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    eh dogon.....are u sponsored by ibex?.....or u ride their bikes or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    eh dogon.....are u sponsored by ibex?.....or u ride their bikes or something?




    He's got a couple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    eh dogon.....are u sponsored by ibex?.....or u ride their bikes or something?
    Nope just a fan of good Customer Service & a sweet product, not to mention im cheep so a great deal on a bike is always right up my alley. Like my Son HAB said i have 2 of them as well as a Versus Blitz II.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Nope just a fan of good Customer Service & a sweet product, not to mention im cheep so a great deal on a bike is always right up my alley. Like my Son HAB said i have 2 of them as well as a Versus Blitz II.
    To avoid any potention confusion, we're not actually related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardtails Are Better
    To avoid any potention confusion, we're not actually related.


    o...hahahaha i thought u guys actually were

    would an ibex withstand this?
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nv87Rt_7JiI

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    o...hahahaha i thought u guys actually were

    would an ibex withstand this?
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nv87Rt_7JiI
    Hes just bashfull

    Thats a old one & the front end went snapola. Ibex can take a beating though. My son the the Asta XC bike.
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    also, I was wondering the automatic shifting setups?

    how do they work, and what exactly do they do....i heard they can shift even if you arent pedaling?


    the answer is probaly a no, but would you think that I would be able to build my own bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    o...hahahaha i thought u guys actually were

    would an ibex withstand this?
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nv87Rt_7JiI
    Ibex can definitely take some abuse... here's pics of me on my Ibex...







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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    also, I was wondering the automatic shifting setups?

    how do they work, and what exactly do they do....i heard they can shift even if you arent pedaling?


    the answer is probaly a no, but would you think that I would be able to build my own bike?
    Like this bad boy from Versus. They can do all that pluse break the bank, very expensive yet very nice.
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    I think my next bike might be an ibex ...... they seem decent, and 1/2 the price of other companies


    .......but i think i gotta ride some more, see iff I'm more into freeride or downhill; but I think I'm more downhill oriented as I dont think I'd like to throw myself of a cliff while just happening to be on a bike


    another dumb question: can you use freeride bikes to ride downhill and vice versa, or are they too much different?

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    The Versus Blitz II is marketed as a FR bike but it is my HD do all bike. The Ibex Atlas handles all the other chores. If you come on out & ride you can test ride them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    I think my next bike might be an ibex ...... they seem decent, and 1/2 the price of other companies


    .......but i think i gotta ride some more, see iff I'm more into freeride or downhill; but I think I'm more downhill oriented as I dont think I'd like to throw myself of a cliff while just happening to be on a bike


    another dumb question: can you use freeride bikes to ride downhill and vice versa, or are they too much different?
    too bad Ibex has stopped making their full on FR/DH bike already. It wasnt well accepted til the end of it's 06. Ibex did not really have the market for full FR/DH bikes. They werent selling until after they had been discontinued. That was when people finally found out how good they were. They are however in the AM market and doing very well and will be making a comeback for the FR scene with a 6" AM/FR bike... Here's a pic of my Ibex Zone. If you weigh under 135lbs, then you're more then welcomed for a test ride too. Though mine is much beefier then what Ibex initially made it...


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    Well, next weekend, i gota work saturday, go sumwhere wit my parents sunday

    my last day of scool is wed., so i can ride thursday and friday

    and then that weeken is memorial day, so I think were going on vacation......... probaly after that weekend, or mabe on memorial day if u guys r riding

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    Well, next weekend, i gota work saturday, go sumwhere wit my parents sunday

    my last day of scool is wed., so i can ride thursday and friday

    and then that weeken is memorial day, so I think were going on vacation......... probaly after that weekend, or mabe on memorial day if u guys r riding
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    Ok, I'm sold for sure on a giant reign 3........ i test rode one at 1 of my LBS's 2dai....and it was better that all the other bikes i tested....and for 1G and including pedals

    good deal or no?

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    Reign's are awesome bikes and for 1g... go for it!!!

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    .....the only thing im wondering about is:

    when i test rode it, the brakes weren't too grabby,
    i mean my mechanical disks braked better..
    the guy said its just cuz the pads are new and theres oilly residue on them...is that true?

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