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    Look I will start off by saying I am jealous, I love you all. So many people on here talking about their bikes, that when I look them up, are thousands of dollars. Also reading forums where people are posting what cranksets to get ($300+), brake sets ($200+), shifters ($250+), forks ($800+). It's just a little disheartening for some of the new guys like myself. So I decided to make a thread about the busted up, pieced together, cheap bikes and the average crappy components that make them what they are. I wanted to come out to the world and say "YES, I am a newbie, I bought my bike for $125 dollars on craigslist. I have no idea if I was ripped off or not but, Guess what???!! I frickin love my bike!!!!". Oh man does that feel good. Since I bought my bike I have put $22 in for new grips and $6 in for a triangle bag to hold tools if my bike breaks. I have now had the bike for 3 months and ridden 4 different trails from beginner to intermediate and it has worked out awesome (of course having nothing to compare it to is great). So if you want to post your run of the mill, mediocre, ho-hum bike along with mine then maybe I wont feel so bad next time I roll up alongside a guy on the trail with a $4000 dollar bike. So come on don't be shy, post that Huffy. All that matters is you love it.

    That all being said here it is... 1996 Mongoose IBOC Comp SX (only upgrade is the ODI Rogue grips, I also made my own slap guard)

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    Everyone starts somewhere.. When I tell people how much bikes are, they get all cross eyed. I dump a few hundred into my bike every few seasons, but i haven't bought a bike in well over 10 years. This season was major upgrades, new wheels brakes and fork, handlebars are coming tomorrow, new rd.. Some grips. But I seek out deals, so it's really not that bad. Plus it's fun getting new ****.

    I think next year I'm gonna go with a full suspension frame. I don't want to leave 26" because everything is so cheap now and it works fine for me.



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    This post intrigues me a great deal. This spring I purchased, what is for me, an excellent entry level bike. A 2012 Specialized Rockhopper 29er. I started riding this spring and have loved it more than I ever thought I would. I wanted to mountain bike for several years but had been told repeatedly that I could not ride trails on a cheap bike. What I have now learned, is that all that advice did was rob me of a few years of trail riding on a subpar bike. I know now that it doesn't matter if all that you can afford is a Huffy, get out and ride. You will probably break something. Have fun until you do, then fix it. Or get another Huffy, or move up to a used trail bike. But get a helmet, and get out there. You do not have to spend $2000 on a bike in order to have fun.


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    Yeah!!!!

    I been at this **** since 1990, and goddamnit, back in my day we didn't even have feet. We went everywhere on bloody stumps!!! AND WE LIKED IT!!!!!

    Gear worship is a frigging stain on the soul of mountain biking IMHO, and retail is for suckers. I'm not all that broke these days, and I've wormed my way into a few decent bikes, but it's always been more about the act of riding for me than the equipment. Posts like this give me hope. Stop shopping and start riding!!!!
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    Ha. Stumps... Love these replies. I agree with all that's been replied. I guess this is the way society goes. Always trying to beat the neighbors. " Oh yeah, well mine is newer and more expensive". I hope this just gives the new guy with little money confidence to ride and realize you don't need that pricey bike. Hell riding a crap bike might make you better and definitely will make you appreciate every single upgrade you ever get to do.

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    So I have to admit I have a multithousand dollar bike now. I finished grad school and got a j-o-b last year; figured if I was going to sell my soul to the military/industrial complex, I could at least get a racing bike out of it.

    But I rode an '07 Hardrock from 2007 until then. Raced it too. And beat some people, no less. I tended to finish "above the fold" in Sport class in my unemployed and community college years. Grad school nuked my fitness and I didn't do so well for a while. :-p I seem to be back now, though.

    I'm too lazy to hunt down the pictures of my Hardrock; I've posted it a couple times. There's a good thread on this that gets revived from time to time, "post your cheap bike." You can see what people have done for less than $200.

    Hardtails haven't changed much, so if your bike goes, stops, shifts and fits you, you're on the right side of the 80/20 rule. You're also making the choice I wish I had in starting out by buying used.
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    Started in a $299 brand new old stock bike back in '99 to see what this was all about and got hooked, have changed bikes several times between then and now but have never had one of those bikes that we drool about due to financial limitations and self control. The most fun was probably the cheapest, rigid ss built from spare parts.

    Still having fun with my upgraded entry level bike and keep in mind that in this game just like horse racing, is not the horse, is the jockey.

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    It's not about the bike

    I built up the bike I've been riding for the past several years for less than $500.00 and it's one of my favorite bikes of all time. Simple, reliable, fun to ride. What more can you ask for? Make no mistake I could be riding the latest whiz-bang gizmo bike if I wanted to, it's not about the money. I've certainly owned a lot of expensive bikes in years past, but I just don't care about all the monkey motion market driven do-dads. My steel 23 pound, 26" wheel, rigid frame/fork, v-brake, 1x8 is all I need.

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    its great to have a $500 bike you love but drinking PBR is unacceptable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfruits View Post
    its great to have a $500 bike you love but drinking PBR is unacceptable!
    yeah, but it's the only beer I had in a can at the time and you know what they say....oatmeal's better than no-meal.

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    First off, I'm not broke... at least not at the moment.

    My perception is tainted because I come from a road background and my road bikes are from the 80's. After the kids, hockey, surfing, etc., I got back into riding and even though I looked at new road bikes I was, and still am, convinced that my 80's road bikes with downtube friction shifters can take me wherever I want to go and get there almost as quickly as any new bike. If I were racing, that is a different story.

    A year ago a neighbor gave me an old GT, it is now my loaner bike, and based on my road perceptions I proceeded to ride that bike and build up 2 more vintage mountain bikes. I really enjoy the bikes and they work flawlessly and they are anything but beaters. As I have been riding a little tougher terrain, I have come to the realization that there is a much bigger difference between old and new technology when it comes to riding a mountain vs. road bike. If I were 30 years younger, I'd probably be looking to move into the 21st century, (larger wheels, disc brakes, etc.), but for my level it is just not worth it and I am having a ton of fun.

    If you can master the trails on that old 26er, it will only help you to be a better rider when you step up, if you step up, to a newer bike.

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    It's not about the bike, it's about the rider, right?




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    Quote Originally Posted by EABiker View Post
    It's not about the bike, it's about the rider, right?



    Hey!!! I didn't give you permission to use a picture of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70sSanO View Post
    If you can master the trails on that old 26er, it will only help you to be a better rider when you step up, if you step up, to a newer bike.
    I get so tired of this assertion....that a newer and/or more expensive bike is an "upgrade" or a "step up".

    For me, and the way I ride, and what I enjoy about mountain bikes, my $500 bike represents the pinnacle of MTB technology and performance. Bigger wheels, disc brakes, suspension, blah, blah, blah....it's all a bunch of crap that does nothing to enhance the experience, and in my opinion actually detracts.

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    So my friend is going into the nypd and wanted a cheap bike to ride to get into shape, and all I could find him free was an old huffy in our other friends girlfriends garage. I rode it around the parking lot... It was pretty bad. Heavy, geo felt like a mess compared to what I'm used to riding.. It was all around bad lol.. So, money does make a bike better haha

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    The gear can certainly be a distraction. Part of it is social pressure - it's hard to line up next to a bunch of guys on wonderbikes, and so much of the chit-chat at group rides seems to center around doo-dads. None of that matters all that much during actual riding, but I catch myself doing it too. I even got all excited about the prospect of buying a dropper post several months ago; demoing killed that.
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    Trust me I love dreaming about the upgrades I plan on. Can't even tell you how many things have been in my shopping cart online and all I have to do is put in my billing info then I back out at the last moment screaming at the computer, then unplugging it so I won't go buy the stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _CJ View Post
    I get so tired of this assertion....that a newer and/or more expensive bike is an "upgrade" or a "step up".

    For me, and the way I ride, and what I enjoy about mountain bikes, my $500 bike represents the pinnacle of MTB technology and performance. Bigger wheels, disc brakes, suspension, blah, blah, blah....it's all a bunch of crap that does nothing to enhance the experience, and in my opinion actually detracts.
    Oh no, I think there are decent reasons for all those things, and they can definitely make the experience 'better' in certain applications. The problem is when all the dorks obsess on gear pretty much to the exclusion of everthing else and can't seem to ever STFU about it (probably a full 90% of this website's content and ~100% of a lot of the subforums).

    To avoid being bored to tears on group rides, you need to immediately start making fun of any part that someone won't shut up about ('fatbikers', or what I call 'fadbikers' are currently the worst offenders - anyone who has one seems to be required to evangalize about it ad nauseum and squeeze the word 'fatbike' into every sentence, sometimes more than once, for hours on end, followed by people that refer to their bikes by wheel size instead of just calling it a 'bike', as if they're riding more than one at a time and they need to make the distinction so we're not confused, followed by anybody who recently wildly overpaid for a bit of next season's "obsolete" equipment. Luckily, my regular riding group gets it. You're allowed a brief mention of a new part if it's been working well for you, or if you just put it on that day. Any more than that, and the heckling ramps up to relentless in very short order. Mention you're overpriced carbon wheels more than once, someone is very likely to throw a rock at them. If somone starts rambling on about the benefits of tubless tires, they're likely to be dealing with a flat in the very near future. The last poor bastard that showed up with some stupid carbon fiber '29er' a couple seasons ago and talked it up still hasn't lived it down,specially after it broke into pieces in short order just like we told him it would. Gear worship most be crushed whenever it rears it ugly head. Get it, ride it, shut up about it, whatever it is. And for gawd's sake, don't polish the frigging thing like it's a show car.

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    OK Cool thread, I started on a BD bike ($300.00) soon I was looking to upgrade and my buddy was all about me spending $2k on a bike (FS). I really can't justify having a $2k bike at my level, so I went for a better bike w/in my budget. This will last me a couple of years but I'm loving riding (which is the important part) more and more every time.

    I think we do have to drop some cash on equipment as a beginner so you have the 'right" tools for the job, not necessarily the more expensive tools.
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    I felt elated about getting a 6 y/o bike off CL for 130. Got the rear wheel respoked & I am g2g. Have my 96 Mongoose as a back. Now my daughter has placed a claim on the goose. Bought her a helmet & backpack. She starts college this fall & it might come in handy when she has to park six blocks from campus.

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    Gear worship is a part of every hobby or sport. Do it cause you love it.


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    I dunno - how many people you think leer at their basketballs and shoot pics of them for internet? Or think it's worthwhile to let the world know they raised the air pressure from 10 to 11? Pretty few I'm guessing.

    This bike been just like a basketball to me.

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    Gear worship is absolutely part of ever hobby, and in my opinion there is nothing wrong with it. My complaint is telling (or implying) folks that they must spend X amount of money on a bike in order to partake of the sport. If somebody can only afford a Huffy but wants to go out on the trail, encourage them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cwakefld View Post
    If somebody can only afford a Huffy but wants to go out on the trail, encourage them.
    That's the whole reason I started this thread. As a noob, when I was looking for my first bike and then when researching upgrades, I seriously started thinking of picking up a new hobby after all the prices I saw on what I "should" be getting. Boy am I glad I said screw it and went with what I did. Love my 18 yr old Mongoose. All about riding, not WHAT you're riding.

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    Don't say "hobby" and you'll be a couple steps ahead. 😂
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    Ha. Good point. But remember that's what I said when I was first looking. So now it is something way beyond that. My job performance is suffering now cause it's all I think about. On the bright side if they can me guess what I'll have more time for?

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    I race 5th scale rc cars and there is so much worship... Gasoline and men... Yeah, we upgrade to brag.

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    Mountainbiking (and many other gear-related activities) are about the bike/gear as much as the fun/riding for some. I enjoy my gear, upgrading it, talking about it, etc. I ride the crap out of my bikes. I love to talk about my stuff with others. To each their own. Your Mongoose is nice; I remember those bikes and certainly nothing wrong with it. That being said, there have been advances since the mid-90s (disc brakes, geometries, etc.) that are great and at some point, if you continue on, look for a more recent used bike that takes advantage of these..or just ride the IBOC! Here is a pic of my IBOC Road Bike..yep...a full 'camp 'Goose road bike from the same year (albeit upgraded a bit)!!! Riding road is even worse with the gear thing and I am sure I pissed off some folks riding this as I was kicking' their butts. I have since upgraded because..well....a 2013 carbon road bike is just a wee bit more comfy/fast than this old girl
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    Quote Originally Posted by ou2mame View Post
    I race 5th scale rc cars and there is so much worship... Gasoline and men... Yeah, we upgrade to brag.

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    I'd classify RC stuff as a 'hobby' where MTB is a 'sport', or even, I hate to say it 'lifestyle'. I look at our RC cars (we've got a few 1/10th rigs) as toys rather than vehicles/equipment. I guess it's all in how you approach it. When it comes to bikes, I see buying/upgrading/fixing them as a necessary evil that I deal with so I can ride, cuz I'd much rather be on the trail riding or digging than shopping or staring at my bike.

    In a nutshell, IMO, this is cool


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    OT - those big cars are awesome. We've got a great RC place pretty close by (RC Excitement - The Premier RC Racing Complex in the North East!) that hosts some big events, and yeah, wow, are there are a lot of MAJOR toy geeks out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slapheadmofo View Post
    I dunno - how many people you think leer at their basketballs and shoot pics of them for internet? Or think it's worthwhile to let the world know they raised the air pressure from 10 to 11? Pretty few I'm guessing.

    This bike been just like a basketball to me.

    Though I think people sometimes get into the shoes...

    FWIW, I'm happy that men can now buy obnoxious bright green and orange running shoes. I was getting really tired of conservative shoes.
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    Not Broke..just seporated! I'll be back on the bike in no time...oh money & bikes & STUFF!!
    Yeah I got me a bike, I like to tear it apart and putter back togeahter again. If'n I break somtin I'm a gonna buy and upgrade = stonger, better, faster etc..part.
    TO properly BUILD one must research...with out the folks postin pics and stuff..people arguing about why their choice is better than the other guy...reading the other guy make his/her case and Wa-La I heard both side of the story and I can now decide for myself..
    THe best experiance for me is to roll up my sleaves and get dirty, both feet! And make LOTS of mistakes that way my learning curve is..well always learning from my mistakes!! Every now and then you get lucky and learn from SOMEONE elses mistake = time saver!!
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    The key to keeping a bike working well is a lot of maintenence. The more you do, the more you learn. Changing cables every season will make you awesome at tuning your derailleurs.

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    No need to be jealous, man. My first MTB was nothing to brag about either. Fully use this forum to learn ALL you can about bikes, parts, equipment and riding techniques. Soon, you will find exactly what kind of bike suits your riding style and objectives.

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    There is nothing wrong with being a gear junkie, there is nothing at all wrong with gear worship. There is nothing wrong with spending $5000 on a bike you love.
    There is however something very wrong with telling someone that their bike isn't "good" enough to ride trails. There is something very wrong with telling someone that the fork on the bike they just paid $800 for is ONLY good enough to ride bike paths and gravel roads. I will say again, if you want to mountain bike and can only afford a used Huffy, take that used Huffy out on the trail and RIDE! You will probably break it, when you do, fix it. When you cant fix it anymore, but a used Schwinn, or a used trail bike, or another used Huffy. But whatever you have, go ride it. Have fun. Great gear is awesome, makes riding more enjoyable, and in some cases, makes hard things easier. But it is certainly NOT required. The only thing that is required is a bike, any bike, a helmet, and a trail. Now go have fun.

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    Dude ride what you have, i have three bikes of varying prices and i end up reaching for the same most of the time, the one i bought first and the cheapest ( when i bought it at least ). Granted the only thing she has stock is the frame but i've considered a million times to bite the bullet and buy a new carbon frame but then i start to think, why ?

    I love the geometry, never failed on me, i like the colors and graphics ... i won't win much on weight ( 100g max ? ), confort ? I think i only would do it to "keep up" with my friends and by that point i just get the bike and go ride it.
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    i like this topic. i see to much "keepin up with the jones'" in the bike crowd. i have a nice bike now but i started on a $450 iron horse that i abused for 7 years until i finally decided to upgrade. i had just as much fun as the guy on the fancy bike. just go have fun, thats all that matter

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    I will admit I became a little bit of a bike snob myself. I still ride an "entry" level bike (2013 trek x-caliber) and just can't justify spending anymore. I got mine for $1200 new which seems like a lot of coin but the internet will have you thinking $1200 bikes aren't even worth riding.

    Buddy rides a $199 genesys 29er from Walmart and we are just waiting for it to die. Things keep coming loose and/or bending but it keeps on trucking.

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    The problem is the drastic increase in parts prices compared to inflation and the fact that some parts cannot be used on old frames due to tubing size differences or thru axles.

    I just spent $2400 bucks on building a new bike. Pike, Debonair, 650b, Reverb, none of which I could have installed on my 6 year old 2008 KHS Tuscon. Was the old bike holding me back? Definitely. Could I have continued riding it? Probably, although it did need some frame repairs via welding.

    I think its a bit unfair to think that just because someone spends a lot of money on a bike that they are trying to keep up with the Jones. I never thought I'd spend $2400 on a bike, especially one where I was re-using old brakes and cranks. But then again, I never thought I'd be content driving a $900 ZX2 back and forth to a "real job" with a "real salary". Priorities, I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    The problem is the drastic increase in parts prices compared to inflation and the fact that some parts cannot be used on old frames due to tubing size differences or thru axles.

    I just spent $2400 bucks on building a new bike. Pike, Debonair, 650b, Reverb, none of which I could have installed on my 6 year old 2008 KHS Tuscon. Was the old bike holding me back? Definitely. Could I have continued riding it? Probably, although it did need some frame repairs via welding.

    I think its a bit unfair to think that just because someone spends a lot of money on a bike that they are trying to keep up with the Jones. I never thought I'd spend $2400 on a bike, especially one where I was re-using old brakes and cranks. But then again, I never thought I'd be content driving a $900 ZX2 back and forth to a "real job" with a "real salary". Priorities, I suppose.
    I hear ya. Like I said... I would love to spend the money. But first I want to see just how serious I am about this. I figure if I start riding as much as I want to, which is any chance I can, I'll eventually make the investment. I just want people to realize (especially people considering starting in this sport) that you don't have to wait until you can afford thousands of dollars to dump into it. Start slow, find out what you need/want then jump in the deep end. All just my opinion. I figure this would just give noobs like myself confidence to go out and give it a shot on whatever they can.

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    Right way to do it for testing the waters.

    Maybe buying used leaves you wondering if you overpaid... but buying retail guarantees that you're going to lose about 40% of your purchase price if you resell.

    Until I got the shiny new bike (new, but not retail,) I kicked myself every time I told one of my friend's to get a secondhand bike and they did it. They'd always go straight to a better package than what I had at the time. Dammit!
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    I find myself wanting "more bike" lately as I push myself to find gnarlier trails and ride faster and farther. That series of jagged 2 foot drops into the creek followed by a berm is a lot more fun to bomb on an AM bike with a dropper post and touchy brakes than it is for me to carry my xc hardtail bike down. Bikes do have limitations, as much as some of you hate to admit, that make certain kinds of terrain not fun. There's nothing wrong with making due with what you have and can afford, but there is a ton of stuff that I hold back on because i don't want to shatter my bike or my face.

    I have to wonder what kind of trails you guys are riding on entry level and old bikes. If they anything like the chunk/gnar stuff for which I have been pining lately, congratulations, you are a super hero. I have plenty of flowy trails to ride that I can handle, but confidently cleaning the FUN trails that I avoid seems like such an awesome unused opportunity.

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    I just got a trek liquid frame, swapped my parts over. Gonna give it a ride tomorrow and see how she does.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    I find myself wanting "more bike" lately as I push myself to find gnarlier trails and ride faster and farther. That series of jagged 2 foot drops into the creek followed by a berm is a lot more fun to bomb on an AM bike with a dropper post and touchy brakes than it is for me to carry my xc hardtail bike down. Bikes do have limitations, as much as some of you hate to admit, that make certain kinds of terrain not fun. There's nothing wrong with making due with what you have and can afford, but there is a ton of stuff that I hold back on because i don't want to shatter my bike or my face.

    I have to wonder what kind of trails you guys are riding on entry level and old bikes. If they anything like the chunk/gnar stuff for which I have been pining lately, congratulations, you are a super hero. I have plenty of flowy trails to ride that I can handle, but confidently cleaning the FUN trails that I avoid seems like such an awesome unused opportunity.
    If you enjoy trails that are more technically demanding, good for you. Weather or not a particular trail is "FUN" is purely subjective. Riding "chunk/gnar" does nothing for me. I don't care about impressing my bros, or looking just like the guys in the magazines. Picking my way through a technical section on a full rigid is way more FUN (for me) than bombing through it on a bike that compensates for lack of ability.

    And, "faster and farther"? Sorry, but adding 10+ pounds of monkey motion is going to make you slower and wear you out faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _CJ View Post
    If you enjoy trails that are more technically demanding, good for you. Weather or not a particular trail is "FUN" is purely subjective. Riding "chunk/gnar" does nothing for me.
    these technically demanding trails of which I speak make up 75% of the trails around here. if you don't like chunk and you live in central Texas, you ride a road bike, on the road. limiting myself to certain kinds of terrain means not riding most of the trails at all. I can hack my way through most of it, but about half the stuff I want to ride will just buck you onto your face unless you bomb it.

    as for "picking my way through a technical section," that does not happen. you bomb it, or you walk it. picking= certain death. unless you can actually levitate your bike using the Force, you can't pick your way through the kind of chunk I am describing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack_turtle View Post
    these technically demanding trails of which I speak make up 75% of the trails around here. if you don't like chunk and you live in central Texas, you ride a road bike, on the road. limiting myself to certain kinds of terrain means not riding most of the trails at all. I can hack my way through most of it, but about half the stuff I want to ride will just buck you onto your face unless you bomb it.

    as for "picking my way through a technical section," that does not happen. you bomb it, or you walk it. picking= certain death. unless you can actually levitate your bike using the Force, you can't pick your way through the kind of chunk I am describing.
    Central Texas? Can you even call that mountain biking? Sounds like more like trials riding, and we all know the best trials riders are on rigid bikes too. Living in Colorado, most of my rides cover the spectrum of fast and flowy to hard-core downhill. Real downhill....down an actual mountain on a real mountain bike, not some monkey motion machine made to ride in bike parks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _CJ View Post
    Central Texas? Can you even call that mountain biking? Sounds like more like trials riding, and we all know the best trials riders are on rigid bikes too. Living in Colorado, most of my rides cover the spectrum of fast and flowy to hard-core downhill. Real downhill....down an actual mountain on a real mountain bike, not some monkey motion machine made to ride in bike parks.

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    Personally I think what defines a "broke MTB rider" is that we make a concerted effort to make MTB a priority in our lives. I gave up fancy and expensive beers, cable television, and newer car (mine cost $900 and I've put 40,000 miles on it in 2 years). Now granted I'm still paying for student loans and don't make a ton of money, so a $2500 bike to me was a major purchase. It's the 2nd single largest purchase I've made in my life, the first being college, the third being wedding expenses and honeymoon.

    I have a hard time believing that if you own a new car, a huge and mostly empty house, the biggest screens and drink nothing but microbrews, that you are truely "broke". You just have different priorities and there is nothing wrong with that.

    Just don't lecture me that I've spent too much on a bike and that I don't need it to have fun. I'm sure I could pick through a list of things you've got that I don't think you need either.
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    Furthermore, I've never met someone and immediately said to myself "they ride an expensive bike so they must be a douchebag." Even when I rode a cheap old bike, I still went up and said "hey man rad bike, do you ride here often?" If they declined my offer to ride with them, it was usually because they were far faster than me for a combination of reasons. They probably had made MTB or riding a priority and it showed.

    I've met plenty of guys riding old cheap bikes who's Luddite frugality pissed me off far more than the dude on the new $6000 carbon superbike who just loved to ride. He didn't ***** and moan all day about "trends" and "hype". He just rides, and rides awesome.
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    It's not a competition about which is better. Some people can spend more than others, as long as you still go out, that is all that matters. It's actually about people who cannot afford a "real" bike, still being able to enjoy the sport. It's not a competition, save that for racing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    Furthermore, I've never met someone and immediately said to myself "they ride an expensive bike so they must be a douchebag." Even when I rode a cheap old bike, I still went up and said "hey man rad bike, do you ride here often?" If they declined my offer to ride with them, it was usually because they were far faster than me for a combination of reasons. They probably had made MTB or riding a priority and it showed.

    I've met plenty of guys riding old cheap bikes who's Luddite frugality pissed me off far more than the dude on the new $6000 carbon superbike who just loved to ride. He didn't ***** and moan all day about "trends" and "hype". He just rides, and rides awesome.
    Well I hope my comments weren't coming off as crying. Prefaced this by saying it's a bit of jealousy. And I know where you're coming from. My wife has no job, I have a 4 yr old, an ok paying job, no cable tv, and I don't own much of anything that great. But my cheap bike is one of the greatest things I own. All I think about all day is upgrading this one and then eventually saving up enough to get something new.

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