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    The Battle between Good and Evil....

    Hello friends.

    Im in a dillema right now.
    Im about to pull the trigger on my first ever full-susser.
    Did all the necessary research and test drives and I have come to
    the final 2 choices.

    In my opinion, these 2 are almost equally the same.

    Now I need your help on deciding if I should go Black or White.

    Appreciate all the help I can get from you guys...




    (PS: The force of the "Dark" side is strong! )




    The "GOOD"

    Specialized Stumpjumper Comp 2010








    OR






    The "EVIL"

    Giant Reign 2 2010 (corrected, thanks to NORDSTERN1 )






    thanks!
    Last edited by tma; 04-16-2010 at 02:32 AM.

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    Evil......
    The most important thing is what God thinks about it. He will have the final say.” – Joshua Stinebrink

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    Quote Originally Posted by ae111black
    Evil......

    Thanks bro.

    That's now

    Evil = 1
    Good = 0

    Also, just to let you know, I've had an AE101 before with 4age Blacktop

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    Quote Originally Posted by tma
    Thanks bro.

    That's now

    Evil = 1
    Good = 0

    Also, just to let you know, I've had an AE101 before with 4age Blacktop
    Sweet I had an ae92 with a blacktop in it..... Now that confused people!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ae111black
    Sweet I had an ae92 with a blacktop in it..... Now that confused people!

    Hahaha, that is sweet! One of my buddy in Japan was able to get an ECU tuned by Takeda for the 4AGE BT and sent that to me. Together with some forged pistons and
    tuned camshafts. Oh well, I've done my time in motorsports and now Im into pedalling hahaha!



    Peeps, pardon us about the talk, that's actually a Toyota Corolla we are talking about.
    The AExxx is the body code and the 4AGE blacktop is the engine type.



    Now peeps, please chip in your 0.02 cents on this.
    Im about to pull the trigger on this one, as in within 48 Hours time.


    Thanks.

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    Evil + 1
    Nobody cares...........

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    White looks so clean and would look even better dirty.

    White!

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    So now that's

    Evil = 2
    Good = 1



    C'mon peeps, keep it coming!

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    Dude, you're choosing between a Stumpjumper & a Trance right? Just wanna clear things out because you posted a pic of a Reign 2...

    By the way, if it was between the Stumpy & the Trance, i'd go with the Trance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nordstern1
    Dude, you're choosing between a Stumpjumper & a Trance right? Just wanna clear things out because you posted a pic of a Reign 2...

    By the way, if it was between the Stumpy & the Trance, i'd go with the Trance.



    Fwak!!!

    Dude, you d man!
    Thanks for pointing that out.
    I've corrected it.

    Its the Stumpy vs the Reign

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    Good = 3
    Evil = 3 (considering nordstern1 is going with the Reign)

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    No problem bud!

    Since that is the case, i'd still go for the Giant. Nothing against the Stumpy...i like it, looks sick but i'm a fan of Giant's Maestro suspension & i find their kits give you great value for your money.

    I also like black...

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    There you go.

    Its now official



    Evil = 3
    Good = 3


    Which leaves me on the same spot, its both tied up!

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    Feels like choosing between






    And








    Aint it???





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    Wow, so messed up... when I saw the spec, I thought THAT was the evil!

    Seriously - I'd pick the Giant. Its a marginally better bike (though you'd be happy with either) and giant aren't as nasty a company as specialized.
    There's something about spec and its business practices (and the recent epic designs thing is a prime example of this) that just makes me want to go out of my way to avoid giving them my money (basically researching to find equally good or better products just so I can justify not buying spec) - they do make good bikes though.

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    Thanks EnglishT



    Good = 3
    Evil = 4

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    Evil +1

    Just because I own one

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    Good.

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    Giant.
    Originally Posted by Vtolds/Dremer03---- "assume any bikes left unlocked and unattended are free to take"

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    Even though I have a Specialized, I say EVIL because the hardest thing to get past while buying that bike was that it didn't come in black.
    I like turtles

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    Evil all the way
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    1.. 2.. 3... 4...........FIFFFFFFF !!!!!!!!!!

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    Maestro suspension FTW .

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    Evil! There is no other choice

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    I just love that stumpy...put me down for Good!
    Since I don't like writing, I don't have a blog to pimp. This space for rent.

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    Too bad it was not a snowboard you could get the best of both worlds


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    Evil. Suspension design is better-regarded. I haven't had the opportunity to try either bike, though, so don't count my opinion for too much.
    "Don't buy upgrades; ride up grades." -Eddy Merckx

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    This is EASY!!! the Giant..
    You can be known as the Reign of Evil!!! How cool is that?

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    Hahaha!

    Awesome peeps here on the forum hahaha!

    So far, here's the official tally as of now.


    Good = 6
    Evil = 15



    It seems that the DARKSIDE is winning and
    Ataylor's idea is pretty wicked...


    If I'll be getting the Giant one, it will be known as ...
    The Reign of EVIL


    Keep it coming peeps.

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    Both!?!?

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    I better trademark that now, then lease it to you

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    What's really messed up is that the Giant IS the Specs father. I saw it on Maury last week.

    Punnet squares aside, I vote for the dark side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s0ckeyeus
    What's really messed up is that the Giant IS the Specs father. I saw it on Maury last week.

    Punnet squares aside, I vote for the dark side.


    That is so messed up dude.
    I can almost hear the Giant saying to the Spec..




    Giant: (Heavy breathing) "Spec, I am your Father!"








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    Quote Originally Posted by ataylor
    I better trademark that now, then lease it to you
    No, dont milk me. Sell it to Giant hahaha!








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    Evil, although a white evil looks nice too.

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    Evil for sure.

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    The question is, do you want your sush working optimally going downhill while hitting the brakes (good) or uphill (evil)... good for me... but you'll be happy with either

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    You can never go wrong with a specialized!
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    Friends don't let friends cheer for the TML

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    Is it me, or are you comparing two different types of bikes? Seems to me it is a matter of whether you want a lighter, shorter travel bike of heavier, longer travel one.

    Decide that first, and then compare apples to apples. The Trance is a better comparison to the Stumpy, and the Enduro is an appropriate comparison to the Reign.

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    I vote Evil not just because of the color (Personally I love black and don't get the appeal of white Mtn bikes, they will always look dirty IMO) but also look where the Spec. water bottle holder is. If you want to use it, you better have looong arms

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    People still use water bottles while mountain biking?

    I can't vote because I don't know your riding style. Both look like nice bikes though.

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    I still use a bottle on quick after work rides because I can't stand loading and lugging around my MULE unless I have too. I live on a mountain with a decent trail system, so it's a "short" hike home if anything breaks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mount Dora Cycles
    People still use water bottles while mountain biking?
    I went back to them. It's wonderful not to have something kinda heavy and not breathable sitting on my back anymore.
    "Don't buy upgrades; ride up grades." -Eddy Merckx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellrazor666
    good
    With a handle like I was sure you were going EVIL
    The most important thing is what God thinks about it. He will have the final say.” – Joshua Stinebrink

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    Well the white will look prettier at first. But after a few months of riding it will look like crap. The black will look badass when new and badasserer when beat up. The white is like a 9th degree black belt. Poised, disiciplined, exact.The black one is like Ash from army of darkness. Loud, brutish, insulting. But way more entertaining. Oh and most people are just dropping turbo miata or s2000 engines in their ae86s now. The black top has the five valves and the 11,000 rpm redline and all. But torque is still better. My 2 cents.
    In the great Ford vs Chevy debate, I choose Porsche.

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    Come to the dark side! We have cookies!!!!

    Put me down for evil. Can't go wrong with a bike like that. Nothing against the Spec, I just loooove black bikes.

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