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    Hey! I like big tires! Although I guess mine don't have that chunky a tread pattern...

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    Third one almost matches me perfectly... but I waited a year first. Oh well, upgrades are fun

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    Dear OP

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    I just bought a $500 SandSlammer brand new from my LBS. I want to spend $1800 on parts, so it will equal the PebbleSlammer ($1000 bike). Whadda think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavyRay View Post
    Dear OP,

    I just bought a $500 SandSlammer brand new from my LBS. I want to spend $1800 on parts, so it will equal the PebbleSlammer ($1000 bike). Whadda think?

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    Below is a dissertation that took a lot of my time to put together. It outlines the pitfalls of spending a lot of money "customizing" your bike versus buying a bike designed to suit you. Since you already made up your mind about what you are going to do and you just posed your question to justify your decision, I have deleted my response. Go do whatever you want. Spend your money however you want. Unless you are racing, you are stroking your cock with a chamoise glove.
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    Dear BAC [Bad Advice Cat],
    Seems I've made all of the above mistakes, and spent $$$$ on upgrades
    to my Jeep-branded MTB, since the salesman told me that it's one of the best!



    Almost X-mas, need to buy a few more gifts, and must sell her to pay the CC bill.
    So..... I'm wondering if it's a vintage / retro / classic,
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    You should put it on CL as a "Racing Mountain Bike." DO NOT mention anything that is wrong with it. What a potential buyer noob doesn't know, won't hurt them (until it actually hurts them). Add up everything you've spent on upgrades over the years and list it for that amount. Do not budge on price.
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    Dear B.A.C.,

    I fall down whenever my bike hits a rock. Do I need new tires?

    When I fall down, I leave the bike and bounce down the trail. Should I get clipless pedals to prevent this?

    One last thing: My poker buddies tell me I should bet heavily until the end of a hand, then fold. Does this sound right?

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    Dear Gasp: Spending money on new parts always makes up for lack of riding ability. Yes, buy new tires and pump them up to 50 psi. It's faster that way. Also, definitely buy clip less pedals. It is so much faster. Lastly, your friends are mostly right - always bet heavy, regardless of your hand but ALWAYS go all in on the river.
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    This is a funny thread. Last year was my first year of mountain biking. I've been guilty of doing some of the things mentioned in this thread, mainly in doing upgrades I didn't really need at my level and spent money unnecessarily doing it. In my case, some I'm such a cheapskate and typically only bought new parts or bikes, some of the upgrades I did were hardly upgrades at all, like changing out 80mm Rock Shox Dart 2 forks for 100mm RST Omegas. Probably wouldn't have done stuff like that had I not found this forum, but oh well...I guess you live and learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by getagrip View Post
    In my case, some I'm such a cheapskate and typically only bought new parts or bikes, some of the upgrades I did were hardly upgrades at all, like changing out 80mm Rock Shox Dart 2 forks for 100mm RST Omegas.
    Seriously?

    Guess I missed that one. How'd it work out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrwSwitch View Post
    Seriously?

    Guess I missed that one. How'd it work out?
    Well, in the case of the RST Omegas, I rode with them for a few months and re-upgraded to Rockshox Recon Silver R's. They are much better forks than both of the other forks I previously had on the bike, but a little too "squishy". I will say, however, that if I could have done it again, I would have upgraded straight to the Recon's instead of the RSTs, or perhaps splurged a little more for a more expensive, but better performing fork. At my level, though, the Recon's work fine. Probably wouldn't race with them, though, assuming I ever get into that!

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    Recons are fully raceworthy. You just need to be able to set fork pressure and adjust rebound. That one doesn't even have the damper people break, IIRC.

    If they're too squishy, why don't you just add another 5 psi or so? I'm riding an aging Marzocchi with pressure and rebound only, and I've found a happy pressure that pedals fine and also gives a good enough ride. Sure it's not like having a platform or compression damper, but it's enough to go racing and beat some of my previous times.
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    monzie, i was trying to figure out how to phrase that pressure washing one. well done. and i love the "move the rocks" one too. around here it would be "just cut the roots".

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrwSwitch View Post
    Recons are fully raceworthy. You just need to be able to set fork pressure and adjust rebound. That one doesn't even have the damper people break, IIRC.

    If they're too squishy, why don't you just add another 5 psi or so? I'm riding an aging Marzocchi with pressure and rebound only, and I've found a happy pressure that pedals fine and also gives a good enough ride. Sure it's not like having a platform or compression damper, but it's enough to go racing and beat some of my previous times.
    Either I'm really missing something, or my forks aren't air forks. This is the model I have:

    RockShox Recon Silver R Fork 2011 at Price Point

    Downhill, the Recon's work great, at least for me. Up hill, not so much...would help if I lost some weight, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    Nothing wrong with this advise. Do you expect me to just HIT the poor fool?
    no you use him as a ramp to jump the log he tripped over

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    LOL, didn't realize the Recon shipped with a coil.

    Try more preload or get a stiffer spring. That's part of the point of buying a name-brand fork - different spring kits are available. You can probably also switch to an air cartridge if you like. Both systems have their pros and cons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrwSwitch View Post
    LOL, didn't realize the Recon shipped with a coil.

    Try more preload or get a stiffer spring. That's part of the point of buying a name-brand fork - different spring kits are available. You can probably also switch to an air cartridge if you like. Both systems have their pros and cons.
    Thanks. I may look into that if I decide to start racing in the Spring or Summer. I may just upgrade to a whole new bike, though. If you have seen any of my other threads, I've really wanted to upgrade to a $1000+ full suspension bike after Winter (or maybe a 29er or 650b), and I'm kind of ready to move on from my Frankenstein Leader "Money Pitt" mountain bike.

    Only problem is my disposable income just went down quite a bit since I just bought an SUV, and now have a car payment. Until recently, I've been able to comply with Rule #25.

    "The bikes on top of your car should be worth more than the car."

    See Velominati The Rules

    I decided to get rid of my two functional, but ugly vehicles, which I owned out right, and buy a nice looking, gas guzzling SUV so I can get more babes. Or at least not get creepy looks from them.

    Only downside is that means not as much free cash to spend on bikes!

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    I haven't been able to comply with rule #25 in a while. Although at least I was able to buy my (12-year-old) gas-guzzling SUV outright. Sort of. Will take me that much longer to pay off my student loans, but at least I'm not afraid of having the damn thing break in the middle of nowhere. Mostly on my way to see the babe I got while I was driving my '93 Ranger, with three outta four working cylinders (and that ain't bad!)

    Still, I'm not sure why racing is a prerequisite to setting up one's bike correctly. The spring kit is about a $40 part. Have you been bottoming out, or does it just bob when you climb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrwSwitch View Post
    I haven't been able to comply with rule #25 in a while. Although at least I was able to buy my (12-year-old) gas-guzzling SUV outright. Sort of. Will take me that much longer to pay off my student loans, but at least I'm not afraid of having the damn thing break in the middle of nowhere. Mostly on my way to see the babe I got while I was driving my '93 Ranger, with three outta four working cylinders (and that ain't bad!)

    Still, I'm not sure why racing is a prerequisite to setting up one's bike correctly. The spring kit is about a $40 part. Have you been bottoming out, or does it just bob when you climb?
    I purchased a 15 year old gas guzzling SUV! 1998 Ford Explorer Sport. Really bad on gas, but really nice looking! I figure it is going to double my monthly gas budget (about $80 a month extra + $158 for the payment), so I may even pick up a cheap commuter bike to offset that cost. Even though it does have enough space to put a bike in the back, it also has a rooftop rack that I can put a bike on to look even cooler and double my chances of getting a babe!

    I don't think I've been bottoming out on the fork. Its more of a really bad pedal bob when going up hill, and a certain extent on flat surfaces. Pre-load adjustment is on the stiffest setting, but it doesn't feel stiff at all. I have broken 2 out of 3 personal course records on that bike with that fork, so at least I'm faster on it than other bikes I've owned.

    I may buy the $40 part you suggested to upgrade the fork, but like I said, I kind of want to move on from that bike entirely. Truthfully, working on bikes has been very frustrating for me, because there is always this little curve ball that is thrown at me. I know a heck of a lot more about bike repair than I used to, and I'm glad I have the knowledge, but I'm almost at the point where the best course of action is to let someone else do the work! Or just get a bike that is easy to maintain and has the parts I like so I won't need or want to upgrade. Maybe fork upgrades are easier to deal with, though, than other types of repairs, so if I don't have enough money to upgrade to a better bike, I may go that route.
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