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    2012 Trek Wahoo VS. 2012 Specialized Hardrock

    I have been looking at getting a 29er and believe I have narrowed it down to the 2012 Trek Wahoo and the 2012 Specialized Hardrock Disc 29. What are your guys thoughts and opinions both pros and cons. Thanks in advance!!
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    What about 2012 GF / Trek Marlin 29er ??

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    what do you like about the marlin??
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    the marlin is more where trail quality bike begin. The components on the wahoo are typically considered not trailworthy. The marlin also has lockout. I would go for the marlin if your budget allows

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    Any thoughts on the specialized hardrock? My girlfriend is leaning towards getting a 2012 Specialized Myka HT Disc and I really like the hardrock. Any comments on those?
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    I just bought a 2011 Hardrock Disc 29er for a great price. I'm totally new to mtb but did some research before hand. The shock sucks, but nearly all do in this price range. The brakes aren't the best either, but everything else is adequate from what I can gather. Really it seems that in this price range for a 29er you get mostly bottom end components on most any of them, so pick the one you like riding the best (fit, etc).

    I picked based on price.....33% off was a big selling feature and allowed me to go new instead of used or from bikesdirect (not to mention there are no used 29ers around here in the entry price range).

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothie7 View Post
    Any thoughts on the specialized hardrock? My girlfriend is leaning towards getting a 2012 Specialized Myka HT Disc and I really like the hardrock. Any comments on those?
    I picked up a Specialized Myka for my wife recently. It was one of the few bikes we could find in 13". She liked it over 3 other bikes she road including a Trek and a Giant. She has been happy with it on the couple rides I have gotten her to go on.

    Go ride the bikes you are thinking of getting. Its worth the trip. Typically one will feel better than the others. I road the Hardrock 29er and the Marlin and like the Marlin a lot better. Try it out for yourself.

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    a lot of people seem to like the frame on the hardrock, although the marlin has the G2 geometry which is also supposedly very good. Just try both out and get the one that feels best like the others said. both are on the same component level so there isnt really any reason to go one way or the other based on that. I would stay away from the wahoo though unless the $100 is a real problem

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    My buddy had the wahoo for a week. I wasn't very impressed when I rode it. It had very cheap components and single walled rims which he tacoed. He took it back and traded up to the mamba which is pretty nice.

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    Wow! Where the hell did you score that? I'm in process of getting one too and was thinking about getting 2011 29er or 2012 sport 29er. lowest I found was $500 for 2011 29er and that's roughly only about 16.5%. 33% off is $400! I would reconsider getting 2012 for that money.

    Quote Originally Posted by RLJ676 View Post
    I just bought a 2011 Hardrock Disc 29er for a great price. I'm totally new to mtb but did some research before hand. The shock sucks, but nearly all do in this price range. The brakes aren't the best either, but everything else is adequate from what I can gather. Really it seems that in this price range for a 29er you get mostly bottom end components on most any of them, so pick the one you like riding the best (fit, etc).

    I picked based on price.....33% off was a big selling feature and allowed me to go new instead of used or from bikesdirect (not to mention there are no used 29ers around here in the entry price range).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaxEJxuK View Post
    Wow! Where the hell did you score that? I'm in process of getting one too and was thinking about getting 2011 29er or 2012 sport 29er. lowest I found was $500 for 2011 29er and that's roughly only about 16.5%. 33% off is $400! I would reconsider getting 2012 for that money.
    Jack's Bikes in Dearborn MI has some awesome closeouts on 2011 Specialized (and Trek/Giant), listed on the site too. Just have to be able to pick it up there.

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    the wahoo has single-wall rims and a cheap fork. it's good for a beginner who will only do some LIGHT trail riding, but if you're going to punish it, at least get a Marlin if not a Mamba for the tougher rims and better fork.

    the hardrock has double-wall rims, which are probably stronger, but a shorter travel fork -80mm versus 100 on the Wahoo. the Hardrock also has a 7-speed cassette, which is ancient technology, whereas the Wahoo has a slightly more advanced 8-speed cassette.

    if they are the same price, it's a tough call. also consider who's selling it. if you have to choose between two shops, pick the one that seems like it will support you the best with service, selection of accessories, and involvement in the local cycling scene.
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    Jason- the OP is comparing the 2012 Hardrock Disc 29er to the new 2012 Wahoo, which is also a 29er. the blue Wahoo you describe is the 2011 Wahoo 26" and not really comparable.

    also, the Mamba does not have hydraulic brakes, it has Avid BB5's which are mechanical. the blue 2011 Wahoo 26", however, does have hydraulic Hornet brakes. I know this because I have built about a dozen 2011 blue Wahoos and at least 5 of the black and read 2012 Wahoo 29ers so far. the gear ratios were probably "different" in that they had different size cogs and rings, but they might be the same when you consider the gear inches achieved with a 29" wheel versus the same gear ratios that result in different gear inches on a 26" wheel. for example, running a 32:16 gear on a 26" bike is about the same as a 32/18 on a 29er. and so on. I'll have to look into that though.

    edit: yup, the 26" Wahoo from 2011 has a 42/32/22 front chainring and the 29" Wahoo from 2012 has a 42/34/24 combo. if the cassette is the same, the gear inches that result should be close enough in range as to not make a big difference.

    as far as sizing goes, standover height is just a safety issue really. you don't want to smash the old tool bag on the top tube, but the reach from the saddle to the handlebars is FAR more important. you can ride a super-low frame with 6" of clearance, but if the toptube and stem have you stretched out over the bike so that most of your weight is on your hands and your back is stretched out, it's not going to matter that they top tube is low enough.
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