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  1. #1
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    2011 Trek 3700 Disc vs 2008 Specialized Hardrock Pro DIsc

    I currently have a 2011 basically brand new 3700. a friend of mine offered me a 2008 specialized hardrock pro disc for my 3700. the hardrock is in very good conditions. Is it worth it? I initially said no because if i upgrade i want to do so to a way better bike, but since i wouldnt have to invest anything besides trade my new bike. plus id be getting bb5's disc brakes and 100mm fork instead of 80mm.. i dont know you tell me guys

    2011 Trek 3700 Disc
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    Description

    Colors
    Crystal Pearl White
    Satin Black
    Frameset

    Frame
    Alpha White Aluminum w/semi-integrated head tube, bi-oval down tube w/integrated gusset, rack & fender mounts, disc compatible dropouts, replaceable derailleur hanger
    Front suspension
    SR Suntour XCT w/coil spring and preload, 80mm travel
    Sizes
    13, 16, 18, 19.5, 21, 22.5"
    Wheels

    Wheels
    Formula alloy DC20 front hub, Shimano alloy M475 rear hub; Bontrager 550 36-hole rims w/brushed sidewalls
    Tires
    Bontrager LT3, 26x2.0"
    Drivetrain

    Shifters
    Shimano EF51, 7 speed
    Front derailleur
    Shimano Tourney
    Rear derailleur
    Shimano Altus
    Crank
    Shimano M131, 42/34/24
    Cassette
    Shimano TZ31 13-34, 7 speed
    Pedals
    Wellgo nylon platform
    Components

    Saddle
    Bontrager SSR
    Seatpost
    Bontrager SSR, 31.6mm, 20mm offset
    Handlebar
    Bontrager Approved Riser, 25.4mm, 30mm rise
    Stem
    Bontrager Approved, 25.4mm
    Headset
    1-1/8" threadless, semi-integrated, semi-cartridge bearings
    Brakeset
    Tektro Novela mechanical disc brakes w/Shimano EF50 levers
    Accessories

    Grips
    Bontrager SS

    2008 Specialized Hardrock Pro Disc
    FRAME
    A1 Premium Aluminum, double-butted, ORE DT, externally relieved HT, reinforced disc mount, forged dropouts w/ replaceable 98954020 alloy hanger, disc only
    REAR SHOCK
    N/A
    FORK
    SR Suntour SF7-XCM-HLO, 100mm, 12": 80mm, 30mm Hi-Ten stanchions and steerer, coil spring mcu w/ preload adj., hydraulic LO, spring assisted seals, custom paint/graphics, disc only
    HEADSET
    1 1/8" threadless
    STEM
    Specialized 3D forged alloy, two bolt, 31.8mm, 10 degree rise
    HANDLEBARS
    Specialized alloy 31.8mm, Enduro rise, 640mm wide, 8 degree back, 8 degree up sweep
    TAPE/GRIPS
    Specialized Enduro, dual density Kraton
    FRONT BRAKE
    Avid BB-5, mechanical disc, 6" G2 Clean Sweep rotor
    REAR BRAKE
    Avid BB-5, mechanical disc, 6" G2 Clean Sweep rotor
    BRAKE LEVERS
    Avid FR-5
    FRONT DERAILLEUR
    Shimano Altus FD-M310-6, top swing, 34.9mm clamp
    REAR DERAILLEUR
    Shimano Alivio RD-M410
    SHIFT LEVERS
    Shimano Acera SL-MC40
    CASSETTE FREEWHEEL
    SRAM PG-830, 8-speed, 11-32t
    CHAIN
    KMC X8, 1/2" x 3/32" w/ reusable Missing Link
    CRANKSET
    Shimano FC-M341-8, replaceable rings, Octalink Spline
    CHAINRINGS
    42S/32S/22S
    BOTTOM BRACKET
    Shimano BB-ES25, Octalink spline, cartridge bearing, 68 x 126mm for 50mm chainline
    PEDALS
    Specialized alloy platform, 9/16"
    RIMS
    Specialized/Alex HRD 26, double wall disc w/ eyelets
    FRONT HUB
    Specialized Hi Lo disc, 32h, CNC flange and disc mount, polished races, alloy QR
    REAR HUB
    Specialized Hi Lo disc, cassette, 32h, CNC flanges and disc mount, polished races, alloy QR
    SPOKES
    1.8mm (15g) stainless
    FRONT TIRE
    Specialized Resolution, 26x2.1", 30TPI, wire bead
    REAR TIRE
    Specialized Resolution, 26x2.1", 30TPI, wire bead
    TUBES
    Specialized schraeder valve
    SADDLE
    Specialized Aggro, Aramid sides, front and rear bumpers, 143mm width
    SEAT POST
    Specialized alloy two bolt micro adjust head, 30.9mm
    SEAT BINDER
    Specialized alloy w/ QR
    NOTES
    Chain stay protector, reflectors, clear coat, owners manual

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    Originally I was looking at Trek's like yours, I rode a specialized and couldn't tell the difference. After riding the Fisher G2 geometry and realizing what component level the Treks and Fishers have under the same owner I was not impressed.

    Take a test ride on both of these bikes and see for yourself which rides better for you... Forks are a wash for the most part and the main difference seems to be the brakes(BB5>Tektro) and of course the frame geometry. That's just paper, so go ride the Speacialized and see what you think.

    The flip-side is you will lose your LBS service I am guessing by swapping rides.

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    You won't lose the LBS service, but you will lose the warranty on the Trek. There is no warranty on 2nd hand bikes.

    The travel on the fork is almost meaningless when riding XC trails. Yes the BB5's are a smidge better than the Tektros, but not by much.

    I say keep what you have, ride it into the ground, then when you can afford a new ride, upgrade.

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    thanks guys. i appreciate it. would you replace the 2011 trek 3700 disc for a specialized stumpjumper 2005 ?


    FSR technology, M4 Manipulated Alloy frame with Transform monocoque TT, sealed cartridge bearings, disc compatible, 100mm travel, replaceable derailleur hanger, two sets of water bottle bosses
    REAR SHOCK
    Fox Float Triad. Custom on-the-fly three position switch 1) Lock-out, 2) Open, 3) ProPedal pedal assisting damping. External rebound adjust, Twin sleeve design for increased volume. 6.5x1.5�
    FORK
    Manitou Black Elite, 100mm travel, rebound adjust compression adjust with lock-out, alloy steerer
    HEADSET
    1 1/8� Threadless, 3x sealed, black alloy cups, cartridge bearings, ultralight alloy top cap and bolt
    STEM
    3D forged CNC machined, 4-bolt, 31.8mm OS clamp, 8 degree rise
    HANDLEBARS
    Specialized XC Low Rise 31.8mm OS bar, 6066 butted alloy, 6 degree upsweep, 8 degree backsweep, 640mm width
    TAPE / GRIPS
    Specialized MTB grip, black, double density Kraton
    FRONT BRAKE
    Avid Juicy 5 hydraulic disc, S/M 160mm, L/XL 185mm clean sweep rotor
    REAR BRAKE
    Avid Juicy 5 hydraulic disc, 160mm, clean sweep rotor
    BRAKE LEVERS
    Avid Juicy 5 hydraulic disc
    FRONT DERAILLEUR
    Shimano M-570 LX, 34.9 clamp, bottom pull
    REAR DERAILLEUR
    Shimano M-952 XTR, long cage, standard spring
    SHIFT LEVERS
    Shimano M-510 Deore
    CASSETTE
    Shimano HG-50 LX, 9-speed, 11x34t
    CHAIN
    Shimano HG-73
    CRANKSET
    Custom Shimano Hollowtech, Octalink XT Spline
    CHAINRINGS
    44Ax32Sx22S, 4-bolt 104/64mm pattern, steel chainring bolts
    BOTTOM BRACKET
    Shimano ES-30 Octalink spline, 68mm shell, 118mm spindle. 50mm chainline.
    PEDALS
    Shimano 520 SPD
    RIMS
    Mavic X317, 26�, black, eyelets
    FRONT HUB
    Specialized Stout Disc, 32 hole
    REAR HUB
    Shimano M-525 Disc, 32 hole, loose ball bearings, alloy Q/R
    SPOKES
    DT Swiss Competition, 1.8mm, SS, black, brass nipples
    FRONT TIRE
    Specialized Resolution 2.0, aramid bead, dual compound, 60tpi
    REAR TIRE
    Specialized Resolution 2.0, aramid bead, dual compound, 60tpi
    TUBES
    Specialized Ultralight, presta valve
    SADDLE
    Specialized BG technology, hollow Cr-Mo rails, dual density base
    SEAT POST
    2014 butted alloy, black, 30.9 x 350/400mm
    SEAT BINDER
    Alloy collar with Q/R, 34.9mm clamp I.D., black
    NOTES
    Chain stay/seat stay protector, derailleur protector, reflectors, owners manual

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    ok, is something wrong with the 3700? You don't seem to like it...

    If you do not like the bike how long ago did you purchase it as you may be able to return it. Trading a brand new bike for a used one of similar quality?

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    If the 2005 Specialized Stumpjumper is a garage queen, it might be a good thing, but that is a 6, almost 7 year old bike. If it's been ridden regularly and/or hard, lots of those parts and the suspension pivots could be clapped out and it would not be a good thing to do.

    If it actually still has the original tires, it could be a garage queen. If it has the original tires on it because the owner put them back on to sell the bike, it could still be a worn out bucket of bearings and bolts.

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    Long story short, I recently inherited a 2005 Stumpjumper from a friend who passed away. Due to his illness it was essentially a garage queen. My previous bike was a 2010 Gary Fisher Tarpon, which is essentially the same bike as the 3700. While I am still new to the sport, I can tell you that SJ is way more capable than my old bike. I have to be cautious on the trail because it has a tendency of making me too confident trying things I am not necessarily ready for. But like Jeff said, I'd make sure it isn't too ragged out. The is a lot more to a FSR than a hardtail (rear shock maintenance, pivot bearings, etc.).

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