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    What state/province do you think has the best beer?

    I think my home province of BC has quite a selection of amazing beers. I'd put BC in the top 5, but I may be biased. However, I can concede that BC does not take top honours - for me, that's definitely Oregon. It blows my mind how many amazing beers come from Oregon.

    Do you have a differing opinion, or do you agree? What state produces your favourite beers?

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    Easily VT.

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    I live in Oregon and would be tempted to tip my hat for the local crew, however if the award is going out for beer production within a state then I'd have to go for California. There's just so much good stuff. It should be noted that Oregon has only 5 million people and California is pushing 40 million. Also it sucks to be in most of California, so any consideration other than beer variety within state borders I believe would put them out of the lead.
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    It's all subjective...so no such place exists.
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    What state/province do you think has the best beer?

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    It's all subjective...so no such place exists.
    You've missed the point.

    Cali does put out a lot of good beers... I think we just see more OR beers up here so I'm better versed in them

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    You've missed the point.
    Fair enough, but we'll see how long until the point get's missed in general, and this turns into the typical pissing match.

    I will say that recently I've been incredibly impressed by Illinois.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    You've missed the point.
    No he hasn't.

    There is no "best" beer.

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    No he hasn't.

    There is no "best" beer.
    Please read posts carefully before cutting them down. "do you think" and "your favorite" are subjective by intention. This isn't about defining the best beer or best state as obviously there's no such thing. The point is to see where is the most popular. Hopefully more reasonable people visit this thread soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    Please read posts carefully before cutting them down. "do you think" and "your favorite" are subjective by intention. This isn't about defining the best beer or best state as obviously there's no such thing. The point is to see where is the most popular. Hopefully more reasonable people visit this thread soon.
    Sorry if I came off as unreasonable. I'll play along.

    Belgium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbrain View Post
    Also it sucks to be in most of California, so any consideration other than beer variety within state borders I believe would put them out of the lead.
    What on earth does that mean?



    I think California is the best beer state(just too many awards compared to everywhere else), but I would give best Beer Country to Belgium. Nobody does gueuze better than the Belgium people. :-)
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    QC for sure.

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    My fiancee surprised me with a trip to Chicago for my birthday in April - looking forward to trying a few brews out there .


    California is at the top of my personal list. Per capita quality may have to go to Vermont, although I'll need to do some more testing to confirm.

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    Last time I was in BC was 2000, and the selection of beer was not very good. A LOT can change in 13 years, though. I'd love to visit again and see for myself. Vancouver is one of only a handful of places in the world to which I'd be willing to move.

    To answer your question, I'd vote California because it is where I live. In general fresh beer is good beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boognish View Post
    Last time I was in BC was 2000, and the selection of beer was not very good.
    Last time I was there was '04 and I felt the same way. Like you said though, a lot has changed in the beer world in that time. I have heard rumblings of some good things happening up there.

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    As an amateur beer nerd drinking among some professional beer nerds, it's really hard to say. I lived in the California Bay Area all my life, so had access to pretty much all of the best beers the state has to offer. However, when I get to taste some offerings from out of state, I'm also blown away. Maybe it's because I rarely taste anything like those particular brews. Maybe it's because those out of state beers I get to taste are some of the best offerings that are worthy of a trade. Either way, it's probably an unfair comparison because California is huge. And it looks like most are voting for California. I think a little interesting wrinkle would be to break California down to NorCal and SoCal. And to draw the line, I would say Bakersfield is the border. Although, that may be unfair, as that gives NorCal both Kern River Brewing and Firestone Walker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tburger View Post
    And to draw the line, I would say Bakersfield is the border. Although, that may be unfair, as that gives NorCal both Kern River Brewing and Firestone Walker.
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    As a whole, I think California has best overall selection of breweries.

    However most people don't think of this state when it comes to beer, but Michigan has two of the best breweries.

    Founders tops my chart for the best Brewery ever and Bells is up there in the top 5.
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    I may be biased living in California, but I think we have a great selection of breweries. My local breweries are Kern river brewing, which makes the best Citra DIPA, and Lengthwise brewing in bakersfield.

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    Agree with most everyone else that California rules. Heck, the San Diego area alone boasts more great beers than most entire states.

    After that, I'd go with Colorado, then New York, then North Carolina.

    There may be some great beers in BC but it's hard to get them in the southeastern US. I remember getting a couple of local BC beers at a bar in Victoria on a cruise this past summer but they weren't very memorable, the Alaskan Brewery beers we had on the trip were certainly better than they were.

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    Colorado pride!

    No, but seriously I don't care what the "best" state is. I dream of a utopius where all states are filled with craft breweries, where the beer scene can roam free, and the grocery store isles are not crowded with yellow beer all day.
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    PA has a lot of exceptional beers. Troeg, Victory, and Weyerbacher are a few of my favorites.

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    For number of good breweries, it would be hard to argue against CA. However, a lot of smaller states have a number of good breweries. I just got back from WA, and outside of the super popular PNW beers like hop venom, there were lots of other excellent beers that I had never heard of.

    One cool thing about smaller communities like MT where I lived, is that the local beer is all you find in town. Here in CA, it still seems easier to find macro made "craft" beers (eg blue moon) than the real stuff. My experience in smaller communities is that they are more supportive of local brewers, and it is easier to find the local stuff on tap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBrider View Post
    One cool thing about smaller communities like MT where I lived, is that the local beer is all you find in town. Here in CA, it still seems easier to find macro made "craft" beers (eg blue moon) than the real stuff. My experience in smaller communities is that they are more supportive of local brewers, and it is easier to find the local stuff on tap.
    Where do you live where you find that to be the case? Have you tried using taphunter? Here in San Diego just about every bar, restaurant and even theaters offer local craft beer on tap or in bottle. And I mean places that are not catering to the craft beer community either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    Where do you live where you find that to be the case? Have you tried using taphunter? Here in San Diego just about every bar, restaurant and even theaters offer local craft beer on tap or in bottle. And I mean places that are not catering to the craft beer community either.
    Yeah, you can get craft beer almost anywhere now in the bay area. Big improvements over a few years ago. Still though, outside of the hardcore beer places, its hard to find a bar that doesn't have coors light as its best seller.
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    In general, I'm going with California. There are some amazing breweries in Northern Cali down to the San Diego area. Russian River (probably being my favorite) down to Stone Brewing and everything in between.

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    In no particular order I'd go:
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    My first thought is Vermont. Lived close by and some wonderful brews in the Green Mountains. However, I have come to the conclusion there are many great beers in this country and am enjoying many of them.

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    For me the "best" Provence is BC, imo the rest are playing catch up. Sure their pub's and beer houses supply the good stuff, but when when it comes creating the good's, their lagging.

    As for the states, I love what comes out of the west/mid west but that's because I've only enjoyed most of what's available for sampling here in BC. CO, WA, OR, & MI are on fire! I love traveling across the line, once across the beer world opens up!

    One the best thing's about living in this part of the world is the abundance of CREATIVE craft beer.

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    I was in Penticton last summer for an event and the craft brew I got my hands on was just down right bad. What are you drinking that I didn't get?

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    I guess you can only answer truthfully by where you have been, but I have been to BC (Vancouver) and Vermont....and it's Vermont by and landslide! I could not find a decent beer bar in the Vancouver area to save my life...Vermont on the other hand you can find awesome craft beer at any random pizza place never mind the dedicated craft beer bars.

    Heddy Topper....Nuff said! You VT people know what I am talking about!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rychehawk View Post
    I guess you can only answer truthfully by where you have been, but I have been to BC (Vancouver) and Vermont....and it's Vermont by and landslide! I could not find a decent beer bar in the Vancouver area to save my life...Vermont on the other hand you can find awesome craft beer at any random pizza place never mind the dedicated craft beer bars.

    Heddy Topper....Nuff said! You VT people know what I am talking about!
    Couldn't agree more, Vancouver's bar's in general suck! And that's because they cater to the masses...

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    there's a bunch of great lower mainland (southwest bc) breweries - central city, storm, russell, driftwood, lighthouse, howe sound, parallel 49, hoyne, phillips, vancouver island, tofino, coal harbour, and several new breweries that are starting up this year as well. the scene is going off here, with lots of rad specialty / limited release / cask products appearing on a regular basis at the good beer locales, and a general level of quality & diversity that doesn't leave me wanting (too much) for cross border shopping trips.

    if you're in vancouver, the alibi room (in gastown) is your best bet for beer nerding. funky space, great selection, and good people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rychehawk View Post
    I could not find a decent beer bar in the Vancouver area to save my life...Vermont on the other hand you can find awesome craft beer at any random pizza place never mind the dedicated craft beer bars.
    Depends what area of Vancouver you were looking I guess, but yeah we're still playing catch-up on the amount of good taphouses. There ARE a few very good ones though. Also a new craft beer joint opening this summer with 140 taps - should put Vancouver on the map. Right now the best two options are St. Augustines (40 taps) and Alibi Room (50 taps), exclusively craft beers.

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    The beers that I generally prefer to drink come out of Massachusetts which is the state I live in, and there are a lot of great little tiny breweries in Massachusetts. Plus there are a bunch of great beer bars in and around Boston.

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    If you are a beer lover, you'll love all areas.

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    What state/province do you think has the best beer?

    Colorado followed by California, not even a debate, hands down best to states for delicious brew!

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    I can't believe no one else has mentioned WI at all. Every chance someone gets they rip on how much beer plays an integral part of our everyday cheesehead lives.

    We have a ton of awesome microbreweries, my favorite being Lakefront Brewery (makers of my favorite of all time, Fixed Gear Ale)

    And don't make me bring in the BFG...Miller/Coors
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    Quote Originally Posted by deleteyourselph View Post
    I can't believe no one else has mentioned WI at all. Every chance someone gets they rip on how much beer plays an integral part of our everyday cheesehead lives.

    We have a ton of awesome microbreweries, my favorite being Lakefront Brewery (makers of my favorite of all time, Fixed Gear Ale)

    And don't make me bring in the BFG...Miller/Coors
    As someone who grew up and attended college in Wisconsin, and still visit occasionally, I say..... "You're crazy!!"

    I toured Lakefront last summer, and all their beers are so very ho-hum. Same with New Glarus, Capital, O'so, Lake Louie, Ale Asylum, and all the rest.

    Very generic, malt-heavy beers that never make me think, "I'll need to revisit that beer".

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirt farmer View Post
    As someone who grew up and attended college in Wisconsin, and still visit occasionally, I say..... "You're crazy!!"

    I toured Lakefront last summer, and all their beers are so very ho-hum. Same with New Glarus, Capital, O'so, Lake Louie, Ale Asylum, and all the rest.

    Very generic, malt-heavy beers that never make me think, "I'll need to revisit that beer".

    All of the sours I have tried from NG have been on the sweet side. I don't know if they're under-attenuated or made sweet on purpose, but I'm not a huge fan. Remind me of dessert wine. Central Waters is an excellent brewery (when the beer is not infected).

    There's either not a ton of beer geek hype about the less-known breweries, or the beer is not as good .

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    I am pretty torn between Oregon and California. Being from Portland, I am pretty biased though. I have traveled alot and tend to always go back to my local beers.

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    Last I checked, Vermont had the most breweries per capita of any state. The Alchemist and Hill Farmstead Brewery are the BOMB!!! It doesn't get any better than Heady Topper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarmark View Post
    It doesn't get any better than Heady Topper.
    That's what all east coasters say

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarmark View Post
    Last I checked, Vermont had the most breweries per capita of any state
    may be true, but the thread title is which state has "the best beer".

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    Vermont easily gets my vote. Maine is probably my #2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkVT View Post
    Vermont easily gets my vote. Maine is probably my #2.
    You ever traveled outside of the NE area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarmark View Post
    Last I checked, Vermont had the most breweries per capita of any state. The Alchemist and Hill Farmstead Brewery are the BOMB!!! It doesn't get any better than Heady Topper.
    Heady is a delicious beast, but I'd prefer it with more bitterness. I've had ultra-fresh cans of Heady and it tastes like hop fruit juice. Delicious, but not enough balance for my palate. I'd take Alpine Keene Idea or Boneyard Hop Venom over it.

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    What state/province do you think has the best beer?

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    You ever traveled outside of the NE area?
    Indeed, I have. What's your point?

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    What state/province do you think has the best beer?

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