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    Time to stop supporting AB InBev

    When a Big corporation like AB InBev or Miller/Coors buys out a local Craft Brewery I have heard many claim that "as long as the beer does not change, being bought out by the big guys is no big deal".....

    Wrong.

    When you purchase anything that sends profits to Companies like AB InBev, this is what you are supporting:

    Craft Brewers Take Issue With AB InBev Distribution Plan - WSJ

    In Case you are not sure if the beer you are buying is owned by AB InBev, see this list:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AB_InBev_brands

    Here is another list of some beers that claim to be craft, but are also owned by large corporations:
    The Complete List of Fake Craft Breweries and Their Real Owners - MensJournal.com

    If you have a small hometown brewery and you want to see it stay in business, stay away from the big corporate beers and support your local guys.

    I tried to upload a pdf of the article because someone told me the WSJ article might be blocked in some areas...
    Craft Brewers Take Issue With AB InBev Distribution Plan - WSJ.pdf
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    I'm with you, Klurejr. There's so much good, locally-produced craft beer, there is really no excuse *not* to support your hometown brewers.

    And even if BCS is awesome, I'm not drinking it anymore. Enough is enough.

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    Were those breweries forced into selling? Did the former owners not receive payment?
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    This is why I drink local. And when I am out of town, I drink like a local.

    Too much great craft beer not to!

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    It's not a new idea, the two corporate giants here in NZ (Lion and Dominion Breweries) have been doing it for years. The vast majority of bars/restaurants here are usually backed by one or the other, and are supported in many ways from interest-free business start up loans to financial incentives for exclusively supplying their products. The plus side of these monstrosities buying up craft beer brands is it means in many places where I would once have only been able to buy their usual bland swill I can now get a good IPA or Porter. The downside is that it is very anti-competitive, and IMO even more important than not buying product from the big corporates is supporting the true freehouses that operate independently and don't take bribes for placing crap products.

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    Avid is spelled wrong, there should be an 'O' in there.

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    Damn. I just discovered 10 Barrel too. I should have known $3.99/bomber was too good to be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiretracks View Post
    Were those breweries forced into selling? Did the former owners not receive payment?
    Did you read that WSJ Article I linked? This has nothing to do with the former craft brewers getting paid, and everything to do with all the rest of the small business owners getting the shaft from corporate bullying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2melow View Post
    Damn. I just discovered 10 Barrel too. I should have known $3.99/bomber was too good to be true.
    Yea me too, never heard of it so I grabbed a sixer at the store. There it was top of the list of AB InBev owned companies. Not again.
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    This summer I went to the Gentlemen of the Road music festival in Salida Colorado, and found that all the beer stations were completely InBev products. The Only IPA I could buy was that Goose Island swill. This is right in the heart of beer country Colorado, with the awesome Elevation Brewing right down the road.

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    http://www.mensjournal.com/food-drin...ewers-20150923

    Some surprises in there for me:
    Lagunitas, Four Peaks, Kona, Pyramid, Widmer... all big biz.

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    I applied for work at Mendocino Brew Co. in Ukiah, but after I found out they weren't a small brewery and were owned by a large Indian conglomerate, I lost interest.
    Not a big fan of their beers anyway. This is the best one, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    http://www.mensjournal.com/food-drin...ewers-20150923

    Some surprises in there for me:
    Lagunitas, Four Peaks, Kona, Pyramid, Widmer... all big biz.
    Interesting that Four Peaks is on that list (I believe it is a recent acquisition) but Ballast Point is not especially with the headlines its sale attracted.

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    I need to just start filling growlers locally, oh and continue to drink New Belgium Brewery. Company owned by its employees. Good stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    I need to just start filling growlers locally, oh and continue to drink New Belgium Brewery. Company owned by its employees. Good stuff.
    There's a brewery near me (Lodi Beer Co.) that can't seem to get their sh!t together about filling growlers. For a while they wouldn't even fill them, quoting some inane law, and now you have to call a day in advance to fill the growler, again, quoting some law I think they made up. Hey, LBC, no other brewery in the state has to do this, why do you?
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    The List:
    10 Barrel Brewing Co
    911 (Dominican Republic)
    Absolut Cut (Sweden)
    Alexander Keith's (Canada)
    Keith's IPA
    Keith's White
    Keith's Dark
    Keith's Red
    Keith's Light
    Keith's Regular
    Keith's Hop Series
    Andes (Argentina)
    Antarctica (Brazil)
    Aqua Fratelli Vita (Brazil)
    AstikA (Bulgaria)
    Baisha (China)
    BagBier (Russia)
    BagBier
    BagBier Classicheskoye
    BagBier Krepkoye
    BagBier Nashe
    Bass (United Kingdom)
    Baviera (Paraguay)
    Beck's (Germany)
    Beck's Dark
    Beck's Oktoberfest
    Beck's Premier Light
    Belle-Vue (Belgium)
    Belle-Vue Kriek
    Belle-Vue Kriek Extra
    Belle-Vue Framboise
    Belle-Vue Gueuze
    Bergenbier (Romania)
    Blue Point Brewing Company
    Blue Star (Canada)
    Boddingtons (United Kingdom)
    BogotŠ Beer Company (Colombia)
    Bohemia (Brazil)
    Bohemia (Dominican Republic)
    Bohemia Light (Dominican Republic)
    Bohemia Pilsen
    Bohemia Escura
    Bohemia Weiss
    Bohemia Royal Ale
    Bohemia Confraria
    Bohemia Oaken
    Borsodi (Hungary)
    Borsodi Bivaly
    Borsodi Polo
    Borsodi SŲr
    BorostyŠn (Hungary)
    Boomerang (France)
    Brahma (Global)
    Brahva Gold (Guatemala)
    Brahva Beats (Guatemala)
    Breda (The Channel Islands) Still Available
    Budweiser
    Budweiser Chelada
    Bud Dry
    Bud Extra
    Bud Ice
    Bud Ice Light
    Bud Lime
    Budweiser Black Crown
    Budweiser Select
    Budweiser Select 55
    Bud Light
    Bud Light Chelada
    Bud Light Lime
    Bud Light Platinum
    Busch
    Busch Light
    Cafri (South Korea)
    Caracu (Brazil)
    Cass (South Korea)
    Cass Fresh
    Cass Light
    Cass Red
    Cass Lemon
    Cass Beats
    Chernihivske (Ukraine)
    Chernihivske Svitle
    Chernihivske Premium gold
    Chernihivske Mitsne
    Chernihivske 4ezz
    Chernihivske Bile
    Chernihivske Bila Nich
    Chernihivske N/A
    Chernihivske Pab Lager
    Corona (Outside of US)
    Diebels (Germany)
    Diekirch (Luxembourg)
    Diekirch Grand Cru
    Diekirch Grande Rťserve
    Diekirch Exclusive
    Dimix (Germany)
    Dommelsch (Netherlands)
    Dommelsch Pilsener
    Dommelsch Ice
    Dommelsch Dominator
    Double Deer (China)
    E-Generation
    Premium Light
    Dry Beer
    Dutch Gold (Netherlands)
    Eiken Artois
    Elysian Brewing Company
    Four Peaks[2]
    Franziskaner Weissbier (Germany)
    Franziskaner Hefe-Weissbier
    Franziskaner Hefe-Weissbier Alkoholfrei
    Franziskaner Hefe-Weissbier Dunkel
    Franziskaner Hefe-Weissbier Leicht
    Franziskaner Weissbier Kristallklar
    Gilde Ratskeller (Germany)
    Golden Road
    Goose Island Brewery
    GuaranŠ Antarctica (Brazil)
    GuaranŠ Brahma (Brazil)
    GuoGuang (China)
    Haake-Beck (Germany)
    Harbin (China)
    HasserŲder (Germany)
    Hertog Jan (Netherlands)
    Primator
    Oud Bruin
    Grand Prestige
    Tripel
    Dubbel
    Winterbier
    Bockbier
    Meibock
    Hoegaarden (Belgium)
    Hougaerdse Das
    Hop Hound Amber Wheat
    Jinlin (China)
    Jinlongquan (China)
    Draft
    Refreshing
    Julius (Belgium)
    Jupiler (Belgium)
    Jupiler N.A.
    Jupiler Blue
    Jupiler Tauro
    KK (China)
    Kamenitza (Bulgaria)
    Klinskoye (Russia)
    Klinskoye Svetloye
    Klinskoye Zolotoye
    Klinskoye Lux
    Klinskoye Redkoye
    Klinskoye Arriva
    Klinskoye Samurai
    Kokanee (Canada)
    Kokanee
    Kokanee Gold
    Kokanee Light
    Kokanee Frost
    Kootenay True Ale
    La Bťcasse (France)
    La Bťcasse Kriek
    La Bťcasse Raspberry
    La Bťcasse Gueuze
    Labatt Family (Canada) Acquired in 1995
    Labatt Blue
    Labatt Blue Dry
    Labatt Blue Light
    Labatt Club
    Labatt .5
    Labatt Lite
    Labatt Lucky Lager
    Labatt 50
    John Labatt Classic
    Labatt Genuine
    Labatt Extra Dry Lager
    Labatt Wildcat
    Labatt Ice
    NOTE: The U.S. version of Labatt is distributed by North American Breweries due to antitrust issues.
    Lakeport Family (Canada) Acquired in 2007
    Lakeport Pilsener
    Lakeport Honey Lager
    Lakeport Strong
    Lakeport Ice
    Lakeport Ale
    Lakeport Light
    Lakeport Red
    Steeler
    Brava
    Wee Willy
    Landshark
    Leffe (Belgium)
    Leffe Brown
    Leffe Blonde
    Leffe Ruby
    Leffe Printemps
    Liber (Brazil)
    LŲwenbršu (Germany)
    LŲwenbršu Alkoholfrei
    LŲwenbršu Dunkel
    LŲwenbršu LŲwen Weisse
    LŲwenbršu Original
    LŲwenbršu Oktoberfestbier
    LŲwenbršu Premium Pils
    LŲwenbršu Radler
    LŲwenbršu Schwarze Weisse
    LŲwenbršu Triumphator
    LŲwenbršu Urtyp
    Malta Morena (Dominican Republic)
    Marathon (Brazil)
    Michelob
    Michelob Light
    Michelob AmberBock
    Michelob Dunkel Weisse
    Michelob Honey Lager
    Michelob Honey Wheat
    Michelob Irish Red Ale
    Michelob Marzen
    Michelob Pale Ale
    Michelob Porter
    Michelob Ultra
    Michelob Ultra Amber
    Michelob Ultra Lime Cactus
    Michelob Ultra Pomegranate Raspberry
    Michelob Ultra Tuscan Orange Grapefruit
    Michelob Golden Draft
    Michelob Golden Draft Light
    Mill Street Brewery (Canada)
    Mousel (Luxembourg)
    Natural Light
    Natural Ice
    Pivara Trebjesa (Montenegro)
    Nik Cool
    Nik Gold
    Niköicko pivo
    Niköicko tamno
    Noroc (Romania)
    Oculto
    Oland Export Ale (Canada)
    OB (South Korea)
    Oranjeboom (Netherlands)
    Oranjeboom Premium Pilsener
    Oranjeboom Oud Bruin
    Oranjeboom Premish Malt
    Original (Brazil)
    Permskoye Gubernskoye (Russia)
    Permskoye Gubernskoye Svetloye
    PaceŮa (Bolivia)
    PaceŮa Pico de Oro
    PaceŮa Pico de Plata
    Huari
    Bock
    Ducal
    Piedboeuf (Belgium)
    Piedboeuf Blond
    Piedboeuf Brown
    Piedboeuf Triple
    Pilsen (Uruguay)
    Presidente Light (Dominica Republic)
    Presidente Black (Dominican Republic)
    Quilmes (Argentina)
    Red Bridge
    Red Shiliang (China)
    Rifey (Russia)
    Rohan (Ukraine)
    Rohan Lehke
    Rohan Tradytsiyne
    Rohan Monastyrske Temne
    Rohan Veselyi Monach
    Rohan Bezalkoholne
    Ron Barcelů (Dominican Republic)
    Rolling Rock
    Rock Light
    Safir (Belgium)
    Santai (China)
    Schooner Lager (Canada)
    Sedrin (China)
    Shock Top Belgian White
    Sibirskaya Korona (Siberian Crown)(Russia)
    Skol (Brazil)
    Spaten (Germany)
    Spaten Alkoholfrei
    Spaten Dišt-Pils
    Spaten MŁnchner Hell
    Spaten Oktoberfestbier
    Spaten Optimator
    Spaten Pils
    St. Pauli Girl (Germany)
    St. Pauli Girl Lager
    St. Pauli Girl Special Dark
    St. Pauli Girl Non-Alcoholic
    Stella Artois (Global)
    Artois Bock
    Peeterman Artois
    Stone Mill Pale Ale
    Sukita (Brazil)
    Taller (Ukraine)
    Tinkov Russian Lager (Russia)
    Tolstiak (Russia)
    Tolstiak Dobroye
    Tolstiak Svetloye
    Tolstiak Zaboristoye
    Tolstiak Krepkoye
    Tolstiak Grechisnoye
    Turning Point (Canada)
    Stanley Park
    Hell's Gate
    Vieux Temps (Belgium)
    Wild Series
    Wild Blue
    Wild Black
    Wild Red
    Whitbread (United Kingdom) (purchased from Whitbread Group plc in 2001)
    Yali (China)
    Yantar (Ukraine)
    Zagrebačka pivovara (Croatia)
    Boěićno pivo
    Oěujsko pivo
    Oěujsko Cool
    Oěujsko Izzy
    Oěujsko Strong
    Fresssh by Oěujsko
    Tomislav
    ZiegenBock
    Zizhulin (China)
    Zhujiang (China)
    Zenda (Perķ)

    Are there even 5 good beers on this list?
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    Looks like that list does not include breweries they have a smaller stake in? Kona, Widmer, etc

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    Over thinking it. Maybe just drink what you like? I tend to buy local and fresh. Nobody bought the GI barrel stout? Lots of breweries have big corporate owners/ shareholders/ financial backers. Ballast point was bought out. Lots of others. Trying to fight corporate America? That said, here in the Boston, MA area, about the only non MA/ New England beer I get is Sierra Nevada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leeboh View Post
    Over thinking it. Maybe just drink what you like? I tend to buy local and fresh. Nobody bought the GI barrel stout? Lots of breweries have big corporate owners/ shareholders/ financial backers. Ballast point was bought out. Lots of others. Trying to fight corporate America? That said, here in the Boston, MA area, about the only non MA/ New England beer I get is Sierra Nevada.
    If the corporate boys want too buy a good brewery and the brewery stays good, that's fine. But if they are using their financial muscle to squeeze real micro brews off the shelves, that's BS. Further, they are misrepresenting themselves by pretending to be micro brews. Also BS. That's the point.
    Going to a music festival in the Colorado mountains and being forced to drink that sh1tty goose island IPA macro brew because In Bev squeezed everyone else out is just one tragic example of how corporate power isn't always so innocent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shark View Post
    I need to just start filling growlers locally, oh and continue to drink New Belgium Brewery. Company owned by its employees. Good stuff.
    never say never... The bulk of the employees only own like 40% of the brewery where Kim Jordan is the majority. Doubt they will ever sell, but there are reports online stating they are looking to see what they could get/worth.
    Exclusive: New Belgium Brewing explores sale - sources | Reuters
    Sale news: AB acquired Four Peaks, New Belgium reportedly considering sale | DRAFT Magazine
    New Belgium Brewing said to be looking for buyer - The Denver Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    If the corporate boys want too buy a good brewery and the brewery stays good, that's fine. But if they are using their financial muscle to squeeze real micro brews off the shelves, that's BS. Further, they are misrepresenting themselves by pretending to be micro brews. Also BS. That's the point.
    Going to a music festival in the Colorado mountains and being forced to drink that sh1tty goose island IPA macro brew because In Bev squeezed everyone else out is just one tragic example of how corporate power isn't always so innocent.
    Vote with your wallet. Squeeze off the shelves? How so. Music fest? Yes, so some of the big venues have big brewers, don't go? I can still get decent brews @ Fenway park.

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    life must be pretty good, if this is what you are worrying about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leeboh View Post
    Vote with your wallet. Squeeze off the shelves? How so. Music fest? Yes, so some of the big venues have big brewers, don't go? I can still get decent brews @ Fenway park.
    How so? It was already explained in the beginning of the thread. They use financial muscle with distributors.
    Don't go to music festivals once corporate beer has taken over. Great suggestion. That solves everything.

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    Oěujsko pivo! NOOOOOOO!

    This is a really really nice Croatian lager that I remember fondly from a summer holiday a few years ago! Turns out that I wasn't drinking a local chilled frosty one, no. I was drinking the devils pi*s.

    Apart from Kona and Hoegaarden there isn't too much on that list that I have heard of before, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    How so? It was already explained in the beginning of the thread. They use financial muscle with distributors.
    Don't go to music festivals once corporate beer has taken over. Great suggestion. That solves everything.
    As said before, vote with your wallet. How are you going to control what beer big corporate music venues serves? Go to your local music venue, supporting local and regional artists/breweries. Start there.

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