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    Pliny the Elder

    Always wanted to try this beer! Who has had it and is it really that good?

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    Pliny is kind of a big deal around here. Yes, it's awesome.

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    It's pretty amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtmartino View Post
    Pliny is kind of a big deal around here.
    Yeah...kind of...

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    Meh...



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    It seems like it is always on draft around southern california.... I am sure you could be friend someone from southern california,and could send you a bottle for a trade....
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    Anyone want to trade me some Pliny for Heady-Topper? I can get Heady any time, but I've never seen Pliny for sale in Vermont. It would be interesting to try, though I'm kind of expecting it to be over-hyped.

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    I've never really been that impressed with elder. I was in san francisco last month and got the freshest bottle I've ever had - 20 days old. Still wasn't that great.

    I think Heady is on a whole other level. So freakin delicious.

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    Jafstl38 What state do you live in? there are ways to try it, though they aren't always legal. Pliny is somewhat difficult to obtain if you do not live in California (and for that matter it can be hard to get in California) thus the extra hype.

    Elder is one of the few beers that lives up to its hype IMO, it is very very very good. There are competitors like Mercenary (Odell Brewing) and Scalpin (Ballast Point) and Hop Slam (Bells) all of which are very good beers. IPA's and Double IPA's are styles that are very dependent upon the drinkers preferences and tastes.

    I do not think that Younger lives up to its astronomical expectations. Also good, but man; talk about small supply and epic demand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    I've never really been that impressed with elder. I was in san francisco last month and got the freshest bottle I've ever had - 20 days old. Still wasn't that great.

    I think Heady is on a whole other level. So freakin delicious.
    There are quite a few beers brewed on the West Coast that I think many of us would prefer to Elder.

    Kern Citra, Alpine Pure Hop or Bad Boy and Boneyard Hop Venom are all beers I would rather drink than Pliny.

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    Pliny is far overhyped. I think its a phenomenal beer but nothing I'd go out of my way for. There are so many brews I'd put in front of Pliny and the fact I think Pliny is great just shows how much I appreciate other world class IPA's.

    Now, if anyone wants to trade Heady Topper for anything Surly has out right now, sign me up!! I'll trade all day for Heady.

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    Yep.

    I agree. Here in SoCal, PTE is pretty easy to get....meaning about 3 bars withing a 20 minute drive will have it most of the time. If I had to choose though, I'd much rather have a Dugana or a Sculpin. If anyone's been out to Long Beach, there's a BBQ spot called Beachwood that brews some amazing IPA's....some of the best I've ever had, IMO.
    If I come across a bottle soon, I'll get in touch with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndinh View Post
    I agree. Here in SoCal, PTE is pretty easy to get....meaning about 3 bars withing a 20 minute drive will have it most of the time. If I had to choose though, I'd much rather have a Dugana or a Sculpin. If anyone's been out to Long Beach, there's a BBQ spot called Beachwood that brews some amazing IPA's....some of the best I've ever had, IMO.
    If I come across a bottle soon, I'll get in touch with you.
    I also prefer Sculpin, but they are both good.

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    Sculpin for me.
    My wife however, loves Pliny.
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    Don't think we can get it in AK. =/

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    I think it's pretty darn good. But pretty hard to get in CO, so tough to do any head-to-head tasting.

    I think there may be a bunch of double/Imperial IPAs that would give it a run for its money, but I can't confirm or deny.

    I'm really digging Marble's Double IPA right now...but there are a LOT of big IPAs to choose from at the moment. If you haven't had it, I wouldn't sweat it too much.

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    Pliney is a very good beer. Maybe not the best, depending on your personal taste, but it does taste like a very well brewed and balanced beer.

    I think the hype gets some people. If you had no idea what it was and randomly picked it up with low expectations, you'd probably be blown away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JChasse View Post
    I think it's pretty darn good. But pretty hard to get in CO, so tough to do any head-to-head tasting.

    I think there may be a bunch of double/Imperial IPAs that would give it a run for its money, but I can't confirm or deny.

    I'm really digging Marble's Double IPA right now...but there are a LOT of big IPAs to choose from at the moment. If you haven't had it, I wouldn't sweat it too much.
    It's easy to get if you go to Argonaut. It's there all the time lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willapajames View Post
    Anyone want to trade me some Pliny for Heady-Topper? I can get Heady any time, but I've never seen Pliny for sale in Vermont. It would be interesting to try, though I'm kind of expecting it to be over-hyped.
    I'll trade - check your PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtmartino View Post
    I'll trade - check your PM.
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    Its pretty delicious and is my "must buy" beer whenever it's in stock (which isn't that often).

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    There are quite a few over the top over-hopped Imperial IPAs that are ultra-sharp, very bitter, and just not forgiving. It's like drinking gasoline. There are a few that are full and rich and have a balanced flavor, despite having so much hops. You can build a race car for 50-60 grand that goes as fast or faster than a 911, but it won't have the total package like a 911 will, only the raw power and road-holding.

    This is why I'm such a fan of Belgian abbeys, trippels and the like. So rich and flavorful, many times I'm blown away that a beer can taste like this. That's what I get from a Pliney.
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    If you like your beer hoppy w/ citrus undertones Pliney the Elder is fantastic. I've acquired such a liking to this style of beer I have a hard time drinking anything else anymore. One you might also try that is similar is Stone's IPA, which should be available all over MO. and one that's going to be a lot harder to find, but if you're traveling you might look for Diamond Knot's Industrial IPA. The Holy Grail is getting you hands on Pliney the Younger.

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    Pliny is an awesome beer and better than most other great IPAs, but only by a slim margin. But if you get the chance definitely dont pass it up.

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    Call me ASAP 925-719-7213 - Lets do a trade... i can get fresh Pliney and blind pig less than a week old. The last Pliney i had was 4 days old. Please share the Love ! :-)

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    Pliny is good, but it is by far NOT the best beer in the world.
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    I'm more than willing to trade for Heady or Pliny, can't really promise anything as good in return though :/
    I can't believe that some would prefer Sculpin over it, Sculpin's one of the more overrated and overpriced IPA's out there(but still very good)in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daves4mtb View Post
    Does anyone know what the best beer in the world is? How would one know? Isn't that subjective? Pliny is damned good and you should drink it. There.
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    I happened across Sculpin today; the first time I've seen it here in Bend, Or. (at Newport Market).

    My first impressions, as I drink it now? It's a fine IPA, but I certainly cannot taste what makes it head-and-shoulders above Bend produced IPA's.

    Still, I give it a thumbs up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirt farmer View Post
    I certainly cannot taste what makes it head-and-shoulders above Bend produced IPA's.
    It's not. Dorado is more of a contender, but neither of them are as good as their San Diego Counterparts from Alpine, Societe or Pizza Port.

    FYI you're seeing it now because it finally got distribution up there. Yay for Sea Monster and Victory at Sea Porter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    The best beer in the world is the one you are currently enjoying. End of story.
    I'm with this guy!

    I can get Pliny The Elder pretty much any time I want, and have only had it about half a dozen times. I just don't get in the mood for a Monster IPA that often. I tend to like more subtlety and balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    The best beer in the world is the one you are currently enjoying. End of story.
    Spot on!!! Elder is a fantastic beer, no denying that, but I have a local rival that is easier to get (Odell's Mercenary) that I can enjoy much more often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guerdonian View Post
    Spot on!!! Elder is a fantastic beer, no denying that, but I have a local rival that is easier to get (Odell's Mercenary) that I can enjoy much more often.
    This is a fantastic beer I agree!

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    I would def send a fine assortment of locals out for some of the Elder. If anyone is interested PM!

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    So I did a blind tasting with the local homebrew club and tasted 16 IPA's/Double IPA's and Pliny surprisingly only got 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattNorv View Post
    So I did a blind tasting with the local homebrew club and tasted 16 IPA's/Double IPA's and Pliny surprisingly only got 4th.
    Uh, who beat it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Danger View Post
    Uh, who beat it?
    Sorry for the wait... Had to double check
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    He'Brew Bittersweet Lenny's R.I.P.A. - Shmaltz Brewing Company

    2.)
    Was a brew from No-Li in Spokane. Not sure which IPA it was, but I am thinking
    JET STAR IMPERIAL IPA

    Odell's IPA didn't score very high, it was below top 5.

    Also keep in mind the tasting was done in FoCo, CO and the shipping/handling may have affected the different brews....

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    Well, I finally got my first taste of the Elder tonight. Cost $7.50 per pint, only one pint per person. First time it has ever showed up in my town. I had to get it checked off my list, so I could get on with my beer drinking life already.

    It was good, especially if you like your IPA's heavy on the pine and grapefruit rind. I can think of a few IPA's I've had that I would choose over the Elder, two IPA's from Boneyard and Hope Valley's Alpha Centauri DIPA off the top of my head. Basically, I won't go out of my way to get more Elder, but I thought it a fine beer.

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    I agree with Slow Danger. I had Elder on tap for the first time recently and thought it was good (rather smooth for a IIPA) but there are better ones out there if you're expecting uber hop nose and flavor.

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    Pliny the Elder is definitely one of the best! First tried at Craft Beer Kings. Love the pines, the hops and citrus fruits flavor and aroma. I don't think I'll get tired of this one.

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    Speakin of Pliney...... I guess demand has gotten out of control.

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    I had it again last weekend and I forgot how great it really is.

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    Did they run out of just the bottles, or what they had on tap? They sound like awesome folks from the article and I wish them well.

    I had my first taste of Pliny a few weekends ago, with an after-ride trip to the restaurant. Crazy busy, with the whole place packed like sardines. I'm not a fan of IPA's (so have tried to ignore the Pliny craze all these years, though I'd look for the bottles), but I brought home a growler of it. It was really really good, though I still don't like IPA's (and don't get how anyone who likes Pliny can dislike very flavorful German hefes).

    Gotta get back down there to refill the growler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guerdonian View Post
    Jafstl38 What state do you live in? there are ways to try it, though they aren't always legal. Pliny is somewhat difficult to obtain if you do not live in California (and for that matter it can be hard to get in California) thus the extra hype.

    Elder is one of the few beers that lives up to its hype IMO, it is very very very good. There are competitors like Mercenary (Odell Brewing) and Scalpin (Ballast Point) and Hop Slam (Bells) all of which are very good beers. IPA's and Double IPA's are styles that are very dependent upon the drinkers preferences and tastes.

    I do not think that Younger lives up to its astronomical expectations. Also good, but man; talk about small supply and epic demand.
    I'm in St Louis, far away from Cali, we have some great micro breweries here though and obviously Budweiser, I've had Mycernary (amazing) and hopslam which was ok.

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    Pliny the Elder is like my comfort zone. This is what makes me go back to Craft Beer Kings store all the time. Also, I always make sure I am updated for latest on Pliny the Elder as much as possible.

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    Had a Heady Topper last night..... mind blown. I believe the hype now! I want to get Pliney and Heady and have them at the same time to really pick a winner
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    Quote Originally Posted by tims5377 View Post
    Had a Heady Topper last night..... mind blown. I believe the hype now! I want to get Pliney and Heady and have them at the same time to really pick a winner
    The two taste nothing alike, different hop profiles by a mile wide margin.
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    I finally got to try Alpine Bad Boy DIPA this past weekend, wow, what an amazing beer.

    Sorry RR, this is way better than Pliny. I am just bummed it was such a limited release.

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    So here's a question. Obviously Pliny (like any IPA) is better the fresher it is. How old would you consider too old for Pliny to be?

    I picked up a bottle in OR a month ago which was bottled Aug 5. I traded it to a friend the other day, apologizing for its age - but I'm not sure to what extent it will have degraded from fresh. I'm hoping it's still going to be delicious (probably has been consumed by now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostBoyScout View Post
    So here's a question. Obviously Pliny (like any IPA) is better the fresher it is. How old would you consider too old for Pliny to be?

    I picked up a bottle in OR a month ago which was bottled Aug 5. I traded it to a friend the other day, apologizing for its age - but I'm not sure to what extent it will have degraded from fresh. I'm hoping it's still going to be delicious (probably has been consumed by now).
    depends on how it was stored and handled. I would say the best the product will be is within 45 days of bottling, after that the hops start to die off, anything older than 6 months probably needs to be poured out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klurejr View Post
    anything older than 6 months probably needs to be poured down your throat asap.

    FIFY I don't think that it would be undrinkable after six months. Chunky from proteins and polyphenols bonding, but not undrinkable, or even undesirable. Old beers need love too.

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