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    New question here. Moving to Southern Germany for 5+ Yrs - What should be on my MUST drink/visit list?

    I am relocating to Stuttgart, Germany in a couple weeks and will have lots of travel opportunities. Tough gig, I know..

    What are the "must seek out and drink" beers and breweries?

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    Whoa! That's out of the blue, no?
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    Seek out anything and everything!!!

    In the surrounding area, you'll have:
    Sophie's Brauhaus
    Feuerbacher- Wichtel
    Dinkelacker-Schwaben Bräu
    Brauerei Wilhelm Ketterer

    Plus some great independent brewers like Ottinger, Schneider, Weihenstephaner, etc.

    Go everywhere and try everything...seriously! I was amazed by the beer in Germany.
    Plus, in Stuttgart you'll have serious access to Cantillon and other European goodies.

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    I'm based in Albuquerque, NM where my fav brewery is La Cumbre Brewing Co - super tasty IPAs & stouts... going to miss IPAs.

    It might seem sudden, but this relo been in negotiation since early Nov. Thanks for the intel and I will do my best to take in as much delishiousness as I possibly can!

    I'm looking forward to drinkiin.. er... visiting Belgium.
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    I must say I am quite jealous of you right now. I would gladly give up west coast IPA for a chance to live in Germany for a few years, plus you are going to be so close to Porsche as well.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate View Post
    I'm based in Albuquerque, NM where my fav brewery is La Cumbre Brewing Co - super tasty IPAs & stouts... going to miss IPAs.

    It might seem sudden, but this relo been in negotiation since early Nov. Thanks for the intel and I will do my best to take in as much delishiousness as I possibly can!

    I'm looking forward to drinkiin.. er... visiting Belgium.
    Haha...sorry, I confused you for the other Nate for a second, my bad.

    There are a lot of European craft brewers trying to emulate the "American" IPA style now, so I'm sure you'll find something.
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    Wow, I'm insanely jealous. I'm a "hop head" and I absolutely did not miss hoppy beers while in Germany, although I wasn't there for 5 years (only a week!) There's something about German beer that is different than anything in the US. It reminds me of fresh baked bread...even the lighter styles. Perhaps the malted barley is just much higher quality?

    Stuttgart is a great location. An easy drive to Frankfurt, Heidelberg, Wiesbaden, etc. Be sure to hit Der Andechser im Ratskeller in Wiesbaden - some of the best beer I had in the whole country and solid food too. Even if you can't go, check out fresh Andechs beer wherever you can...Stuttgart isn't too far from the brewery itself.

    Wow, what a huge change from NM. Hopefully you love it as much as I did...I'd move there for work too if given the right opportunity.

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    I'm arriving right in the middle of Das Stuttgarter Frühlingsfest (think of it as a springtime Oktoberfest).

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    As previously mentioned, Bamberg is awesome - I think they average 2 microbreweries on each street, plus it was relatively untouched during the war so the architecture is worth checking out with an easily maintained buzz...

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    ahh... I've spent many an hour over in the Cannstatt for the Fruhlingsfest and the Canstatter Volksfest (Stuttgart's Oktoberfest) which is just as good at the famous one over in Munchen. Also make a stop over to the Andechs monastery, it's a small town near Munchen. Very good beer from the monastery, not as famous as *mostly* Belgian Trappist monastery beer (a definite pilgrimage you need to undertake) but great all the same.

    There are hundreds of breweries in Deutschland and each region/large cities have their favorites. I was there for three years and tried to sample all of them and I don't think I even made a dent on the extensive list. As said before, the Germans aren't into IPAs and I've found the best tasting beer in Europe in Belgium and surprisingly, Czech Republic.
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    Kloster Andechs (closer to Munich). There's a little hotel at the bottom of the hill. Wake up, climb the hill to the Monastery, drink their wheat beers and eat pig and pretzels in the beergarden while enjoying the view, then stumble back down. Heavenly in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyklops View Post
    Kloster Andechs (closer to Munich). There's a little hotel at the bottom of the hill. Wake up, climb the hill to the Monastery, drink their wheat beers and eat pig and pretzels in the beergarden while enjoying the view, then stumble back down. Heavenly in the summer.

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    Moving to Southern Germany for 5+ Yrs - What should be on my MUST drink/visit l

    Ah, hallo Hefe

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate View Post
    Ah, hallo Hefe
    Very nice! If you like that, you're going to enjoy it there

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    When my dad was stationed in Germany (early 60's) he loved the beer halls, but hated when the German barmaids reached across the table to hand you your beer, and their armpit hairs left tracks in the butter sitting upon the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate View Post
    Ah, hallo Hefe

    Finally made it in country? Don't forget to check out your local getrankemarkt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JFryauff View Post
    Whoa! That's out of the blue, no?
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    I've actually found a bit of a niche here. Still not much of a job to speak of, but I've become the local mtb club's mapping guru and have started on a pretty big project with them.

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    I was stationed in Germany I tried everything. Almost every village of size had at least one brewery. Lots of pils, and wiesen biers. I did not see hardly any stouts, pales or IPA which I prefer now. Try everything. If it is made by monks exspecially. Drink from the glass boot!

    Besides the bier, every place seems to have their own version do sausage. Also, we always hit a little Turkish stand that had killer giros. Very good.

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    Hofbräuhaus Traunstein 1612er Zwickelbier. It's one my personal favorites. They also have a Helles that's really good.. Definitely recommend. Goes well with a nice schweinshaxe or schweinbraten
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    Be prepared for a few things: German beers are often overhyped, there's a lot less variety (mainly pils and weisens, as Brian mentions above), and they like to mix beer and soda (Radler, Colaweisen, etc.). Don't get me wrong, there are some great ones but you have to wade through a lot of mediocrity. I'm by no means a connoisseur, so take it for what it's worth.

    What's not overhyped though - Oktoberfest! Make those reservations early though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiddyHitch View Post
    What's not overhyped though - Oktoberfest! Make those reservations early though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiddyHitch View Post
    Be prepared for a few things: German beers are often overhyped, there's a lot less variety (mainly pils and weisens, as Brian mentions above), and they like to mix beer and soda (Radler, Colaweisen, etc.). Don't get me wrong, there are some great ones but you have to wade through a lot of mediocrity. I'm by no means a connoisseur, so take it for what it's worth.

    What's not overhyped though - Oktoberfest! Make those reservations early though.
    Gonna have to disagree with you here. German beers are no more hyped than American beers, yet Germans have the ability to consistently make a high-quality product without glaring flaws, unlike many American breweries. You may or may not like the style of various German beers, but for the style they are the best in the world.

    That said, there are a huge number of German styles given the manufacturing restrictions imposed by the Reinheitsgebot, or German Purity Law. On the right side of this page you'll get an idea of all the different styles brewed there:

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    You won't easily find huge triple IPAs or 15% BA stouts in Germany, but you will find excellent beer that has the best price/quality ratio of anywhere in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiddyHitch View Post
    Be prepared for a few things: German beers are often overhyped, there's a lot less variety (mainly pils and weisens, as Brian mentions above), and they like to mix beer and soda (Radler, Colaweisen, etc.). Don't get me wrong, there are some great ones but you have to wade through a lot of mediocrity. I'm by no means a connoisseur, so take it for what it's worth.

    What's not overhyped though - Oktoberfest! Make those reservations early though.
    I never understood the beer/soda drinks.

    As for Oktoberfest, very fun. Go with a crowd, get a table to share with others. Besides this, many villages, towns, etc. have similiar festivals during the year. I enjoyed these as much as Oktobefest.

    Went on a few "volsmarches" also. Great way to wal/hike through the country side with bier gardens along the way. Also, get on the train and travel Europe. Thing I wish I did more.

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    Picked these up at the Getränkefachmarkt yesterday..

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    First bike path ride here... no one went thirsty:
    Saturday Ride Passion... or maybe "Beer" passion would be a better descriptor?
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    Heidelberg is a must. Wurzburg is also a small town worth a visit.

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    Jep, Wuerzburg is a beautiful town and also hometown of Dirk Nowitzki for anybody interested in basketball.

    When it comes to beer, you can really check out everything you find. German beer is exceptionally good and also quite cheap.

    Also don't miss the chance to travel around. Definitely check out Munich (for the sheer beauty of the city and also for the stunning nature around it, with the Alps and all the great mountain lakes, good opportunities to bike there!) and Berlin (since it is an amazing vibrant city). I have nothing but fond memories of Berlin, used to live there for six months the day I arrived I will never forget. My company back then even booked the BlackLane limousine service to get me to the airport and as soon as I arrived in Berlin I fell in love with the city. So much going on there, so much art and culture, people from all over the world... just great!

    Also, there is a huge bike park in Willingen, in Lower-Saxony. It is supposed to be one of the best and biggest bike parks in Europe, so check it out if you have the time.
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    Recent Getränkemarkt selections:

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    Nice man! So what are your impressions so far? Which breweries and styles do you like the most? Been to any cool beergardens or anything related?

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    Just about any biergarten is gut biergarten. I like the German beer, but I miss the variety of different styles found at any small brew pub in the US.

    Here are a few German beer pix:






















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    We haven't ventured to Munich as a destination yet - we've only skirted around it while heading down to Austria.

    It's still on the "list" of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigb2000 View Post
    Heidelberg is a must. Wurzburg is also a small town worth a visit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate View Post
    We haven't ventured to Munich as a destination yet - we've only skirted around it while heading down to Austria.

    It's still on the "list" of course.
    I've only visited one German town, Cologne. It's a nice place.
    I also liked visiting Vienna, Austria:
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    Moving to Southern Germany for 5+ Yrs - What should be on my MUST drink/visit l

    We moved onto permanent housing a month ago in a small village. The house we are leasing was built in 1462. It's 10 yards from a cathedral from the 1200's. We're getting to know our neighbors and all the cool little shops, biergartens, and eateries in our village.

    As we walk around our town, we have to remind ourselves that we live here and aren't just visiting. That's a cool feeling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBNate View Post
    We moved onto permanent housing a month ago in a small village. The house we are leasing was built in 1462. It's 10 yards from a cathedral from the 1200's. We're getting to know our neighbors and all the cool little shops, biergartens, and eateries in our village.

    As we walk around our town, we have to remind ourselves that we live here and aren't just visiting. That's a cool feeling.
    That’s some awesome history going on!!! Must be spectacular living there.
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    Lots of history going on around the village we live in. For example, not far from us is the Fortress Hohenasperg which has been a strategic position since 500BC. My mtb ride this morning took me by several dilapidated, forest covered pillboxes from WWII along the River Enz.
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    Beer related post. While over in France this weekend, we visited a beer store and the owner told us about this - yeah, our rooms are booked!

    http://festivalmondialbiere.qc.ca/pd...essrelease.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirt farmer View Post
    When my dad was stationed in Germany (early 60's) he loved the beer halls, but hated when the German barmaids reached across the table to hand you your beer, and their armpit hairs left tracks in the butter sitting upon the table.

    Beware the hair!!
    My father was also stationed in Germany in the 80's (was living in Bitburg when Chernobyl happened), and your armpit story brought back a lot of traumatic childhood memories with armpit hair and ladies...and butter...haha.

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    Today the ladies are silky smooth and beer is served cold.

    It ain't your pappy's Europe any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1nterceptor View Post
    I've only visited one German town, Cologne. It's a nice place.
    Speaking of beer... Cologne and Dusseldorf are just 40km apart and have one of the world's great beer rivalries. In Cologne they drink Kölsch, while in Dusseldorf they drink Alt. Kölsch is widely exported and better known I think. I've been to the area a few times on business and I find that I much prefer the Alt style.

    If you visit Cologne, whatever you do don't order Alt. Likewise, never order Kölsch in Dusseldorf. Do climb all 533 steps to visit the top of the Cologne cathedral, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undies View Post
    Speaking of beer... Cologne and Dusseldorf are just 40km apart and have one of the world's great beer rivalries. In Cologne they drink Kölsch, while in Dusseldorf they drink Alt. Kölsch is widely exported and better known I think. I've been to the area a few times on business and I find that I much prefer the Alt style.

    If you visit Cologne, whatever you do don't order Alt. Likewise, never order Kölsch in Dusseldorf. Do climb all 533 steps to visit the top of the Cologne cathedral, though.
    I don't remember what kind of beer we were served; but I remember that both the sausage and draft we had were excellent.

    And yes, I did climb over 500 steps to the the top of the cathedral. In the summer;
    I thought I was going to pass out.

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    Don't miss the doppelbocks. I'll never understand why they're not more popular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1nterceptor View Post
    And yes, I did climb over 500 steps to the the top of the cathedral. In the summer;
    I thought I was going to pass out.
    I wondered what they do about medical emergencies. Surely there must be tourists with heart problems who attempt the climb once in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glorth2 View Post
    Don't miss the doppelbocks. I'll never understand why they're not more popular.
    I actually had a hard time finding bocks or doppelbocks the two times I've been to Germany. I found that most places tend to serve 3-4 styles: pilsner, hefeweisen, the preferred local style, and maybe some sort of darker variety like a dunkel hefe. Granted I have only been to Berlin, Dusseldorf, and Cologne so my experience is limited. Baltic porter seems to be somewhat popular in Berlin and I enjoyed that as an alternative.

    Strangely I had a harder time finding German bocks in Germany than I do in the USA. I have local grocery stores here that regularly stock Optimator, Celebrator, etc.

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    Once upon a time when I was in the Army, I came down on Orders to got to Wurzberg. Those orders were later deleted, which pissed me off to no end. I WILL still make it to Germany one of these days, for a visit if nothing else.

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    When dad was stationed in Germany (early 60's) he loved the beer halls, but hated if the German barmaids reached along the table to hand you your beer, and their armpit hairs left tracks in the butter sitting upon the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Undies View Post
    I actually had a hard time finding bocks or doppelbocks the two times I've been to Germany. I found that most places tend to serve 3-4 styles: pilsner, hefeweisen, the preferred local style, and maybe some sort of darker variety like a dunkel hefe. Granted I have only been to Berlin, Dusseldorf, and Cologne so my experience is limited. Baltic porter seems to be somewhat popular in Berlin and I enjoyed that as an alternative.

    Strangely I had a harder time finding German bocks in Germany than I do in the USA. I have local grocery stores here that regularly stock Optimator, Celebrator, etc.
    Well that makes sense. The doppels, while still less popular than styles like weiss and helles were still born in Bavaria. That said, when I was in Bavaria in '97 it was much harder to find these than I expected. Like you said, it was easier to find them here.

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    Apparently the Germans like to properly label things so there's no confusion at the bierfest tents after a few maß.

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    My Friday Night Brew - An Augustiner Bräu Weißbier

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    Kloster Andechs (closer to Munich). There's a little hotel at the bottom of the hill. Wake up, climb the hill to the Monastery, drink their wheat beers and eat pig and pretzels in the beergarden while enjoying the view, then stumble back down. Heavenly in the summer.

    Cyklops
    Sounds like the perfect day.
    It is. I did a bike tour around Bavaria in 1997 and the Kloster Andechs was a stop on my last day before heading back to Munich. Sitting in the biergarten drinking wheat bear and eating some fresh bread with the locals was one of my favorite memories of that trip.

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