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    Guinness disapointment

    Was in Ireland 2 weeks ago, I kept hearing how the Guinness in Ireland is so much better because your getting the freshest Guinness in the world. Well guess what! it tastes exactly the same as it does here anywhere else. Tastes good, nothing wrong, just exactly the same. So if anyone is heading to Ireland hoping to be in for a treat when sipping a pint of Guinness, I suggest you focus your enthusiasm on exploring the beautiful country because the Guinness in Ireland is the exact same taste as it is anywhere else in the world.
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    Are you sure you sampled enough? I have heard that it takes lots of samples when in Ireland, to really get the best flavors in Guinness.
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    The Guiness Stout that is brewed in Kenya (by Kenya Breweries Ltd under license from Guiness) is really dark strong stuff. The ABV is 7%, and it is much darker and better tasting than the stuff in the UK/Ireland/etc., and of course is better than the U.S. export stuff. I found this out on my last trip to Kenya back in 2010.
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    There's loads of different guiness available depending where you are. IIRC we get raught; Draught Ice; Canned Draugt; Canned Original(my favourite); Bottled Stout.

    The draught In Belfast is much better than that at my local, but the taste also depends a hell of a lot on the pourer as well, it must never be pulled in one go.

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    you know rocky urban, you have a good amount of disappointment in your life.....first it is 29er's and now it is Guinness.... Maybe you should stop while your ahead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky Urban View Post
    Was in Ireland 2 weeks ago, I kept hearing how the Guinness in Ireland is so much better because your getting the freshest Guinness in the world. Well guess what! it tastes exactly the same as it does here anywhere else. Tastes good, nothing wrong, just exactly the same. So if anyone is heading to Ireland hoping to be in for a treat when sipping a pint of Guinness, I suggest you focus your enthusiasm on exploring the beautiful country because the Guinness in Ireland is the exact same taste as it is anywhere else in the world.
    Thanks, no need to go to Ireland now. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leopold Porkstacker View Post
    The Guiness Stout that is brewed in Kenya (by Kenya Breweries Ltd under license from Guiness) is really dark strong stuff. The ABV is 7%, and it is much darker and better tasting than the stuff in the UK/Ireland/etc., and of course is better than the U.S. export stuff. I found this out on my last trip to Kenya back in 2010.
    I always thought that Guinness was brewed only in Ireland and nowhere else in the world. Are you sure that was real Guinness? Perhaps some African counterfeit version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blumena84 View Post
    you know rocky urban, you have a good amount of disappointment in your life.....first it is 29er's and now it is Guinness.... Maybe you should stop while your ahead
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    Guinness sold in the US is imported from Ireland, and thus you will likely find it tastes the same over there, maybe a slight bit fresher. Other countries brew it locally or import it from somewhere other than Ireland, and they are the ones that usually comment on it tasting better in Ireland. The Guinness Extra Stout is brewed and imported from Canada. When I was in Ireland a few years ago, I did not have a bad pint of Guinness, despite my best effort
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    I don't know guys. Guinness had been my favorite beer for 40 years. (I even had a dog named Guinness) but the last couple years either my taste changed or they did cause it isn't even in my top 10 now.

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    Three words:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snosaw View Post
    Are you sure you sampled enough? I have heard that it takes lots of samples when in Ireland, to really get the best flavors in Guinness.
    This.

    You need to sample more. And try drinking it both before and after fresh Jameson samples to see the way the two really compliment each other. Then mix a little jameson in with Baileys and try pouring that into a fresh pint and seeing how it feels and tastes going down.

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    bad kittykat.


    never soil the guinness

    well done for not using 'that' name for the cocktail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gavinda View Post
    bad kittykat.


    never soil the guinness

    well done for not using 'that' name for the cocktail.
    No love for beer cocktails? Or cooking with beer? Great cocktails and recipes require quality ingredients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky Urban View Post
    Perhaps some African counterfeit version?
    Nope, you’re thinking of the Nigerians— counterfeiting, 419 scams, etc.
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    When in Scotland 5 years ago I had plenty of Guinness as well as a good amount of local craft brews. If the draft Guinness tasted different there than from in the US I could not tell, and I had it more than once in more than one pub. I think at best it might taste fresher, but it IS the same recipe whether you drinking it there or here.

    I think the whole idea of it tasting better IN Ireland has more to do with ambiance than flavor. Most food taste better while on vacation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTscoob View Post
    No love for beer cocktails? Or cooking with beer? Great cocktails and recipes require quality ingredients.
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    I did a job for a friend and got paid with 12 liters of guinness, so last night I used up the last of my scrumpy and made the poor mans black velvet. smashed

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoDC View Post
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    I thoroughly enjoy this brew.
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    I visited Ireland this past summer and I am an avid guinness fan, I can tell you the difference is subtle but it is certainly better. I have been told by several people that in order to travel overseas, it has to be pasteurized which degrades the smoothness. Second, I have yet to find anywhere in my area that has a proper guinness tap. The concept behind the sprinkler head and the two way tap that allows you to PROPERLY pour it makes the biggest difference in my opinion. Every time I get a guinness in the states they just put the glass under the tap and fill and let it settle. Did you do the brewery tour? Lots of good info. Again, the difference is probably less than what you were expecting but it is absolutely better.

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    thats the nail whacked on the head dude. its in the pour and how often its poured. the 'travel' issue i feel is maybe a little purist as we have ubs local to us that are night and day with the guiness. same guiness, different barman. its amazing the difference.

    and forget about guiness 'ice'

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    Guinness is sour brown water no matter where you drink it

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    Guiness sucks here in the States. It'd have to be waaaaaaaay better over there for it to even taste OK. I'm serious, I hate Guiness.

    But I do like Stouts. My favorite is Lion Stout. Once I had one Lion Stout I tried to drink another Guiness and poured it out after one sip. And that was the last one.
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    Never mind.

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    Man I don't know what to say to this post. I have had Guiness in Ireland and it is definitely a better than we get in the U.S.. It's rich and creamy. If you were looking for it to be bitter or like an American stout, it's not. It's just a much better version of what we get here in the U.S..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasanii19 View Post
    Thanks, no need to go to Ireland now. Lol
    haha same here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky Urban View Post
    Was in Ireland 2 weeks ago, I kept hearing how the Guinness in Ireland is so much better because your getting the freshest Guinness in the world. Well guess what! it tastes exactly the same as it does here anywhere else. Tastes good, nothing wrong, just exactly the same. So if anyone is heading to Ireland hoping to be in for a treat when sipping a pint of Guinness, I suggest you focus your enthusiasm on exploring the beautiful country because the Guinness in Ireland is the exact same taste as it is anywhere else in the world.
    I had the same experience. I got turned on to Guinness when I was in Ireland in 1993. Shortly after I got back to the US, I started drinking it on tap here. I thought it tasted pretty much the same (which was good). When I went to England a few years ago, it tasted pretty much the same there as well.

    Regardless, I think Ireland is still worth the trip.
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    I am of the mind that there are places that have Guiness and then there are places that SERVE Guiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MotoDC View Post
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    I've had a couple bottles of this, which is pretty recent to stores in my area. By far the best Guiness I've had. I never checked where it was brewed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianW. View Post
    I am of the mind that there are places that have Guiness and then there are places that SERVE Guiness.
    thats pretty much the nail twatted on the head!!

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    I get these absurd rambling really long replies in my inbox from some robo-generated random nonsense machine, from this forum. I click on it and I get to this forum and the reply has been deleted, I guess. This happens a lot from this forum. Guess next time I'll just mark it as "spam". Where do they come from anyway? Hope some of you have seen them before they're deleted.

    BTW, if we're talking Stouts, you need to try Lion Stout, my favorite. Guiness sucks.
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    I had a friend bring some back from Ireland It was different for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky Urban View Post
    Was in Ireland 2 weeks ago, I kept hearing how the Guinness in Ireland is so much better because your getting the freshest Guinness in the world. Well guess what! it tastes exactly the same as it does here anywhere else. Tastes good, nothing wrong, just exactly the same. So if anyone is heading to Ireland hoping to be in for a treat when sipping a pint of Guinness, I suggest you focus your enthusiasm on exploring the beautiful country because the Guinness in Ireland is the exact same taste as it is anywhere else in the world.
    Are people talking about on tap or from the nitro-charged bottles and cans? The charged cans/bottles are a lot closer to the real deal (what you get on tap in Ireland) than the uncharged ones, but still not quite the same

    I'm talking about on tap. And like someone else pointed out, the place needs to know how to pour it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gavinda View Post
    There's loads of different guiness available depending where you are. IIRC we get raught; Draught Ice; Canned Draugt; Canned Original(my favourite); Bottled Stout.

    The draught In Belfast is much better than that at my local, but the taste also depends a hell of a lot on the pourer as well, it must never be pulled in one go.
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    I love guinness

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    I'm not much of a drinker and thus not exactly an aficionado on stout but as an Irish-man I feel the need to weigh in.

    I couldn't tell you whether or not there's any truth in the notion Guiness is better in Ireland than in the US as I've never had a pint of it over your side of the water but I do not that in most of Europe it can be very hard to find a good pint of stout because the pipes from keg to tap aren't laid right or serviced correctly (my 4th generation barman friend insists this is the most important factor and his pub serves one of the best pints in Connacht) and to a lesser extent the pint isn't poured correctly with the right amount of tilt to the glass and the appropriate amount of time for settling.
    A lot of the time too much emphasis is placed on pouring the pint correctly, it's not really a high-skilled job, anyone can do it but all the same it needs to be done correctly and some places (even in Ireland), **** it up.

    If you want a good pint of guiness you have to go to a pub where guiness is served all day every-day, one where the staff know what they're doing and where the guiness tap is an integral part of the establishment, properly installed and properly serviced.

    However, if you want a really good pint of Irish stout you're better off heading down to Cork and having a pint of Murphy's instead. Beamish is also an alternative worth exploring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky Urban View Post
    I always thought that Guinness was brewed only in Ireland and nowhere else in the world. Are you sure that was real Guinness? Perhaps some African counterfeit version?
    Guinness is brewed(Under licence) in 60+ countries.
    I couldn't really taste any difference from the stuff in England when we were in County Kerry,SW Eire a few years ago.....they just take 5 times longer to pull a pint there

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    My first Guinness while in Ireland was noticeably different than compared to Guinness I had drank in the states. And that first Guinness was at the brewery in Dublin. I'd say the Irish version was frothier, almost creamier in texture and much more filling when consumed. It's taste was more pronounced, less watery and definitely more flavorful.

    Smithwicks, too, is noticeably different. It tastes pretty poor here in the states compared to what's available in Ireland. Of course I thought it was delicious prior to visiting Ireland but I have yet to buy it since returning.

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    2 Slow, I completely agree with your assessment. I too had my first Irish Guinness in Dublin. Yum! Had about twenty more over a week there on business. Those Irish boys like to drink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FX4 View Post
    Those Irish boys like to drink.
    They sure do!

    And the pubs over there are so wonderful, especially those in the countryside and away from mainstream tourist areas.

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    Ive had Guinness all over the world and the consistency is what keeps me coming back. Kinda like a Big Mac in Berlin is just as sh*tty as a Big Mac in NYC keeps me away.

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    Just a couple of thoughts here after spending a week in Ireland this summer. I LOVE Guinness and its pretty much the only beer I drink. That being said I do believe the freshness of the Guinness in Ireland does certainly play a factor but I believe the main reason it seem to taste better in Ireland is 3-fold.

    1. Proper pour using a Guinness tulip glass
    2. 'Fresh' Guinness Keg running through clean pipes with correct mix of NO2 & CO2 at correct Temp.
    3. You're actually in Ireland

    Seemed to me that the Irish really take pride in serving beer in the correct glasses using correct pours for each type of beer. Pair this with keeping correct temps and gas mixes and you gonna get a good beer. After typing this I REALLY want to go back....

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    /\ Most of the Guinness on tap is improperly driven at a lot of the bars/restaurants in the states. Well, at least in my area. It makes a difference.

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    I too have been to and have Guinness in Ireland. Guinness is my beer that I drink. I can't say it's better. But after the plane ride and a quick thought at the 7K price tag of the trip, it tasted better! Lol!!!

    Wile over there I went to my grandfathers, cousin's dairy. He took us to his local pub in the town. There, old ladies where drinking Guinness with a teaspoon of black current jam dropped in.

    I tried one and while I would not have it again, it was interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GelatiCruiser View Post
    /\ Most of the Guinness on tap is improperly driven at a lot of the bars/restaurants in the states. Well, at least in my area. It makes a difference.
    Major +1

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    You ll find its more likely black currant cordial in the old ladies drinks. Jam would be a little odd even for the Irish.
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    a couple of my friends went to ireland last christmas, and are always talking about "the proper pour". that isn't a guiness thing, its a nitro thing, and really any bar should be able to do that. a lot of bars put no effort into their beer, even if they have a good selection. the bar folk have to know a lot about wine and mixed drinks etc., but they expect the beer customer to know about the beer it seems. its the worst with guiness because that is a frequent offering as the one "craft" option at places.

    thats just why its best to frequent bars that know their beer and actually care about it.

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