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    Spitfire---what stem length you running?

    Hey all, been riding a spitfire for about 2 months now and am pretty happy with it. However one thing I am struggling with is getting the right front end lift for small drops, and popping off roots & rocks etc. I'm 6'2" on a large with zero stack and 160 fork. Running a 70mm stem and wide bars (this is the shortest travel/ longest chainstay bike I've owned). The cockpit feels perfect minus the former complaint. So, should I run a shorter stem or adapt? What length stem are you running?
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    5'11" on a medium Spitfire. I've gone from a 50mm to a 35mm stem.

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    hey big jc .. im about 6,23" same as you

    what do you think about the bike on large ?
    is it okay to abuse the bike for drop etc

    im thinkin gettin a large spity with 50mm stem wide bar

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    i run a 50mm stem an it's on the money for me on a medium frame, an i'm 6ft...

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    6'2 on a large w/ 50mm stem and 750mm bars. Feels great to me--I noted the spitty to be a little tougher to pick up the front end at first, but now I never even think about it. I think one thing that people miss is that all other things being equal, as your bars are wider, you will run a shorter stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greasontofall View Post
    hey big jc .. im about 6,23" same as you

    what do you think about the bike on large ?
    is it okay to abuse the bike for drop etc

    im thinkin gettin a large spity with 50mm stem wide bar
    size wise I would go for the large. If your a smooth rider i'm sure it can handle a lot however depending on your riding may want to consider the rune.

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    K, thanx for the responses guys. That's what I needed to hear and definitely going to drop down to a 50mm stem. After a big ride today seems obvious now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big JC View Post
    size wise I would go for the large. If your a smooth rider i'm sure it can handle a lot however depending on your riding may want to consider the rune.
    thx for the reply ... still back and forward between rune or spity

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    Quote Originally Posted by greasontofall View Post
    thx for the reply ... still back and forward between rune or spity
    I was on the fence for a while also. I would say if you mostly trail ride get the spitfire. I'm coming off an rfx as my main bike and the spitty smokes it in most situations. If you ride a lot of park days jumps drops etc get the rune

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    I'm 5'9" on a medium spitty & run a 60mm stem, this is with a 150mm fork

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    6-2 on a large with Fox 36 and 65mm stem and setback post. Fits me perfectly. Of course all our bodies are made a little differently, so there is no hard and fast rule. Best bet is to find a shop that has lots of "fit" stems to try and go ride.

    *Edit* After Re-reading the above comments I might try a 50mm stem and wider bars. A friend rides for ODI so I might get some of those.
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    Not only depends on your body type but bike SETUP as well. I'm 5'9" with 30" inseam so I have a long torso. I'm using Syntace bars with a 12 deg sweep so that cuts down on the effective stem length already. Combine that with 15mm stack height under my stem (running a 140mm Pike) with a slack HTA (also reduces the effective stem length) and I found that a 50mm stem was an absolute JOKE! Front tire was coming off the ground on climbs even when weighting the front! 70mm works perfect for me and yes, I have wide bars and do know how to use a short stem (50mm on my 6 Point and 45mm on M3).

    To each their own,

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    5'11" on a medium with 50 mm stem, 760 mm RF Atlas bars, 160 mm fork with a zerostack headset, and its working great for me. I had a 70 mm stem on there, and seemed like I was all over the front end landing jumps and trying to rail corners. A riding bud suggested I tried a shorter stem (which did not seem intuitive) to help put my weight a little further back, and it worked like a charm. It's also worth noting that wide bars (like mine) tend to put your weight a little forward, which is can be a good thing as long as it's not excessive.

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    6'6 on an XL, 60mm stem, 780 Truvativ Boobars and straight post.

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    5'9' on medium with 55mm stem and long wide v1 bars

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    Here's a good explanation on why stem length or top tube length is really useless unless you take into account stack height as well: Reach and stack based sizing for mountain bikes - Pinkbike.com
    Even just adding a few spacers under the stem will shorten the reach significantly on slack bikes like the Spitty.

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    6'2" on Large with 50mm stem and 720mm bars..perfect for me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBigHit View Post
    6'2 on a large w/ 50mm stem and 750mm bars. Feels great to me--I noted the spitty to be a little tougher to pick up the front end at first, but now I never even think about it. I think one thing that people miss is that all other things being equal, as your bars are wider, you will run a shorter stem.
    Same hight, same setup for me it is spot on!

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    6'2" on a large with a 50mm stem & 760mm bar.

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    5'11" on a Medium and running a 40 mm stem with a 750 bar.

    I am thinking about getting a new 45-50 mm stem to shave so weight and to get a better pedalling position. Any suggestions? I currently have a Hussefelt but I'm thinking about the PZ Racing 45 mm stem.

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    170cm (5.6"?) / 160mm fork using ZS headset / 750mm bar
    Using 50mm stem.
    Perfect for me.

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    I'm 5'11" and running a 50mm stem with 711mm bars.

    I used to use longer stems (60 & 70). Was good for just riding along, but I prefer to be towards the back a bit when it comes to drops or jumps.

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    5'10" and running a 70mm stem on my medium Spitfire. I tried 50mm and 60mm lengths, but the the 70mm works best for me because I have longer-than-normal arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsWin View Post
    5'10" and running a 70mm stem on my medium Spitfire. I tried 50mm and 60mm lengths, but the the 70mm works best for me because I have longer-than-normal arms.
    Ditto. Lots of variables on here (as I've already pointed out) and not a "one size works for all" answer like some are implying. And, FWIW, the bike is actually spec'd with a 90mm stem (yeah, now THAT seems long!). BTW I don't just "cruise along".
    Now if I go to a 150 fork and drop the spacers under the stem... yeah, I'd probably be at 50-60mm stem length. Moral of the story... asking for stem length is useless without understanding all the parameters affecting reach length.

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