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  1. #1376
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    6'0", "average" build, medium fits great with a 65mm stem and 750mm bars.

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    I wish it was solid. Last I heard it was on the boat to the distributor. This was a week or so ago.

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    Production Prime Photo/Build thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    If you can wait a week or so I'll be getting rid of my medium yellow frame once my Phantom gets here. I'm 5'11 and it fits me well for a longer travel bike with a 60-70mm stem and 760mm bars.
    Does that mean you got a solid date on when your Phantom ships?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banshee Bikes
    Darkside and Phantom Update for North American Customers:

    The Darksides and Phantoms are on the water to our North American Distributor Trident Sports, and should be landing before the end of the month. We are sorry for the slight delay due to a shipping issue.
    Don't worry man, like the Prime, it'll be well worth the wait
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    Does that mean you got a solid date on when your Phantom ships?
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    I thought I would update this thread with some thoughts after almost 2 years aboard the Prime.

    I think this is the longest I can remember owning a frame without even considering something different. The Prime has met all of my MTB'ing needs the last 2 seasons, and then some. After moving to Fruita, CO last July, the bike has seen a substantial amount of additional abuse without even flinching. In fact, I just finished the first bit of maintenance it has seen since I moved here (mostly due to the transition and all my tools being in boxes). The frame has performed flawlessly! It is an amazingly stout chassis that loves to be abused...it simply takes all you can dish out while begging for more

    My only gripe would be the Fox CTD. I have been consistently underwhelmed by it's performance, but am likely going to upgrade both ends soon with an Avalanche tuned solution.
    For only 130mm of rear travel, the bike is amazingly competent in the chunk and I look forward to continue testing it's limits!

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    Yeah, totally agree, I'm in the second season on my production version plus 1 season on the proto. The bike gets better with age, if anything happens to it I'd buy it all over again.

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    @jncarpenter, in the first photo I see you have Derby rims on the Prime and then in the all the following pics you're running different rims/wheels.

    What are your thoughts on the Derby's? And, why are you not using them in the action shots?

    I'm curious because I have a set of Derby Heavy Duty 29" rims waiting to be built up for my ever so slow Prime build project.
    Also, I see that you're a small guy. Which I'm not. So, if you have any concerns about the Derby's I will start to be worried!
    I've also come across some chatter on the intertubes about Derby rims and weight limits that has me ever so slightly concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    @jncarpenter, in the first photo I see you have Derby rims on the Prime and then in the all the following pics you're running different rims/wheels.

    What are your thoughts on the Derby's? And, why are you not using them in the action shots?

    I'm curious because I have a set of Derby Heavy Duty 29" rims waiting to be built up for my ever so slow Prime build project.
    Also, I see that you're a small guy. Which I'm not. So, if you have any concerns about the Derby's I will start to be worried!
    I've also come across some chatter on the intertubes about Derby rims and weight limits that has me ever so slightly concerned.
    his quote says here is a pic of the "current" build and some shots from the year. looks to me like the derbys are a new addition

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    Yes, Derby's are a new addition & have been superb thus far. Also, @RideEverything, you must be a giant to refer to me as a "smaller guy" when I am 6' & 225 lbs


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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinS View Post
    Yeah, totally agree, I'm in the second season on my production version plus 1 season on the proto.
    Same here and I'm still loving mine as well! Haven't posted a build update in a while, but I got mine down to 30lbs for this season, with Next SL carbon cranks, renthal carbon bars & xtr brakes. I've come around to liking the fork at 160mm (now that my shoulder is healed up). Also upgraded to a Monarch plus rc3 with LL tune.

    I did have a chance to briefly ride a buddies 2015 carbon nomad the other night- he's sponsored so it's the full-team build with xx1, 27.5 enve M wheels, pike/debonair suspension. Nice bike! It kind of confirmed to me what an awesome ride the prime is though (especially considering the price difference), and also some of the pros & cons of the different wheelsize/travel options.

    It seems to me a lot of the newer 27.5 enduro-geometry frames are tending towards longer wheelbase & chainstays, to sort of emulate the stability of AM 29'ers like the prime, but without the inertia & travel limites of bigger wheels.

    Anyways, I think one of the coolest things is that I really have no minor gripes or constructive criticism about the product prime after 2 seasons. Usually there's at least something minor to complain about like paint quality or cable routing, or standards evolving, but I really can't think of anything...if mine was stolen I'd build up the exact same bike (assuming I could afford it again LOL).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    Yes, Derby's are a new addition & have been superb thus far. Also, @RideEverything, you must be a giant to refer to me as a "smaller guy" when I am 6' & 225 lbs
    lol!
    I realize that I had confused you with someone else. Also, that you're on a pre production Prime which doesn't have the large gap on the support between the ST and TT, like the XL does on the production frame, making it look like a smaller sized frame at a quick glance.

    *edit- looking at your photos of your bike again I see that you're on a production frame. What size is that?

    I'm not much bigger than you at 6'6", 235ish.
    Which means I'll be looking forward to your thoughts on the Derbys and how they hold up.
    Last edited by RideEverything; 07-13-2014 at 04:12 PM.

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    It's a production frame, just a medium.

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    I've been running the Derby's all spring, tubeless, including 10 days in Moab where I tried to beat the hell out of them. Usually I have 2 -3 dings to pull out of my rims when I get home and have had several flats. All I ended up with was a rock scuff on the rear.
    I'm 6'4", 215lbs with gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinS View Post
    I've been running the Derby's all spring, tubeless, including 10 days in Moab where I tried to beat the hell out of them. Usually I have 2 -3 dings to pull out of my rims when I get home and have had several flats. All I ended up with was a rock scuff on the rear.
    I'm 6'4", 215lbs with gear.
    Same here...majorly stiff rear end results in a few rim scuffs. They are far more stiff than the Flow's & just as durable per results thus far!


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    Production Prime Photo/Build thread

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    Dude! Photos! This frame truly has changed you.
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    Ha! I think I might be slowing down in my old age


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    6200' of DH yesterday on mine.... and some hike-a-bike...
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    Killer stuff!


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    Production Prime Photo/Build thread

    Great pics FM!

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    Thanks guys. Here's the best of the set I think (warning, non-prime content!)
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    Gotta love the alpine wildflowers!


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    Long Time No See - Love the Prime

    I've been on this one since I built it in April. Love it. The Behemoth has retired to XC duty. These were on the Hermosa Trail in Durango last weekend.Production Prime Photo/Build thread-durango-031.jpgProduction Prime Photo/Build thread-durango-034.jpg
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    I have a couple questions that I hope I can get some help with.


    1- I have the 2014 Fox Float FIT CTD fork 140mm. I am wondering if it can be bumped up to 150mm of travel easily. I've read that a few of the earlier models could. I've searched but I guess my search queries aren't good enough in Google to get me the info I need. Can anyone point me to a tutorial if it is possible to bump the travel. I've worked on numerous Rockshox forks and have the knowledge and tools to all my own work with that brand. Hopefully, Fox forks aren't that much different!
    I've yet to ride the fork but was thinking that I'd like to try the little bit of extra travel at some point.

    2- I'd like to know what length Reverb post the guys on the XL frame are running. I'm looking to get the 125mm Reverb as a placeholder until I can get KS Lev 150mm.
    I'd like to know if the 380mm length Reverb will work with my 35ish inch inseam for pedal height. Or if the the 420mm will drop low enough into the frame.
    Is there anyone on an XL frame running a 380mm Reverb with a 35" inseam?
    I'm asking because the Prime does not have a fully useable seat tube. And, sometimes for certain trails I ride I like to drop my post as low as it can go for the longer, steeper and gnarlier descents.
    I also open the quick release on my Honzo sometimes to drop my Lev down for the steeper crazier descents.


    As to my build, it is coming along very very slowly.
    I hit an unexpected financial bump which had me directing money elsewhere. However, I'm slightly back on track and have 85% of the components now.

    Now I need to get the wheels built. I went with the eThirteen LG1+ hubs front and rear. I got an extra freehub body when I picked up the rear 150mm hub.
    I also need to pick up the last bit of drivetrain I need. I'm going with a 1x10 setup since I'm having trouble sourcing the specific type of FD at a price that I'm willing to pay. I'm going with a 42T OneUp cog and currently looking at/for options for a narrow/wide 28T chainring.

    The last time I predicted when my build was going to be completed the rug was pulled out from under me. I'm not trying to tempt fate but hopefully my build will be finished soon. Very soon!

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    Hum, weird, I was in the same boat as you for my FD, just couldn't believe the prices, but also the one I needed was never in stock at the price point for me. Looking on Jenson here's what looks to be the one you need, but not 100% sure, but for the price I'd take the gamble. SRAM X7 3X10 E-Type Front Derailleur OE > Components > Drivetrain > Front Derailleurs | Jenson USA

    As to the post, all I can tell you is that I also have a 35.25" inseam and the measurement from the top of my saddle to the centre of the BB is around 32.5" for "proper" pedaling, which meant roughly 9.5"/241mm of exposed post to the saddle rails and I had no trouble dropping my Thomson 410mm layback post all the way down to the bend before I had gotten a dropper, that's 11"/280mm.

    As to the fork question, no clue, I had the original F34 FIT, but I can say that despite never having worked on a Fox before and hearing how hard they were to work on, I was pleasantly surprised by how easy they actually were to work on, no harder than an RS, well except for the damper. Procedure is very similar to the RS, just drop the lowers, remove the circlip on the left leg, pull the air shaft out and see where the push pin is and if there's another hole lower or higher and you'll have your answer as to adjustable travel. Actually that's not 100% true since you can easily use the snap on travel spacers to reduce travel.

    Hope some of this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    I'm going with a 1x10 setup since I'm having trouble sourcing the specific type of FD at a price that I'm willing to pay. I'm going with a 42T OneUp cog and currently looking at/for options for a narrow/wide 28T chainring.
    !
    My Primes have always been 1x, I ran 30x12-36 on my proto, my current is 32x11-42 (wolftooth nw ring and big cog). The 1x10 set up with the wolftooth stuff works so well, 32x42 is actually a perfect climbing gear, bottoms out right at walking speed. Lighter, quieter and less maintenance than a 2x set up. I think you'll be very happy with the 1x (and I'me guessing you're already used to it from the Honzo?)

    I know you have some steep climbs (I do a lot of pushing on the flank trail when I'm up there)... but a 28 or 30 should be perfect!

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