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    Most definitely, for a bike like this, ridden on terrain that suits it. I never "needed" a dropper post before, I could ride a lot of very steep stuff, but it was always a bit sketchy with the saddle that high. Most of the times on group rides you had to be waiting on people on those sections anyhow, so if you needed to drop your saddle no worries, you had time, but these days since getting the Paradox and then Prime and then a dropper I realise how much of th flow I've been missing out on having to stop to raise the saddle if I needed to drop it instead of just raising up off the saddle and just popping it back up to pedal efficient height.

    Good to hear about the Sturdy's, I've gone the route of some On-One Smorgasbord and Chunk Monkey tyres and for $20 US roughly a pop on Maxxis casings, they're a killer deal. Sadly for some reason Shiggy design them both with fairly short side knobs, but the Monkey is def better than the SB in that regard, so now run SB r/CM f.

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    Dropper posts........discuss.
    Do I need one?
    Or just stick with the standard post?
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    Anybody thinking of trading in your Prime for a Phantom, when it hits the streets??
    (Especially those, who don't have the most gnarliest of tracks in their backyard..)

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    NOPE But I am thinking of picking a Phantom for riding on our island on most of the trails and keep the Prime for when I travel overseas to ride or if we get more appropriate trails for the Prime Even if the Phantom proves to be the perfect bike for me I won't be getting rid of my Prime, it will be kept to remember how great it was to be part of the testing of it and the new KS link, maybe hung on the wall, but most likely it will stay built for the occasional rip or loan

    Quote Originally Posted by Kofoed View Post
    Anybody thinking of trading in your Prime for a Phantom, when it hits the streets??
    (Especially those, who don't have the most gnarliest of tracks in their backyard..)
    One day your life will flash before your eyes, will it be worth watching??
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    I could see adding another bike, but I cannot imagine a better bike than my Prime.

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    yeah, that was kinda my conclusion too - some how it makes sense to have both:-l
    Now, would someone please go and explain it to my wife..

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    Easy, tell her (if you were one of the testers, don't know all) that it's a collectable, you won't get much if you sell it right away, you need to hold onto it for a bit until it garners some value
    Quote Originally Posted by Kofoed View Post
    yeah, that was kinda my conclusion too - some how it makes sense to have both:-l
    Now, would someone please go and explain it to my wife..
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Easy, tell her (if you were one of the testers, don't know all) that it's a collectable, you won't get much if you sell it right away, you need to hold onto it for a bit until it garners some value
    Just find what works, My Wife has 3 carbon bikes & 1 Alloy & still thinks 1 have 2 many bike's

    I just tell her she didn't marry well.

    When I had my Race car shop there was always lot's of wife's around complaining about the cost, My Father was there 1 day And 1 of them was having a moan to him about it & his reply was, Well men seem to wont fast cars or fast woman, So while he is playing with the fast cars you should leave him alone.
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    OK dropper post ordered.
    I now have everything (except the frame fork and dropper post which are all coming from the same distributor.

    HURRY UP BANSHEE!!!
    If you get here by the weekend I have a ride planned for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    OK dropper post ordered.
    I now have everything (except the frame fork and dropper post which are all coming from the same distributor.

    HURRY UP BANSHEE!!!
    If you get here by the weekend I have a ride planned for you.
    So what's your final build list ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    So what's your final build list ?
    L polished frame
    X-Fusion fork
    Fox shock (but want to talk to the distributor about the X-fusion option there too
    Spank Spoon riser bar (blue)
    Funn Crossfire stem (polished)
    WTB Silverado saddle
    ESI Chunky grips
    XT M780(?) crankset and BB
    E13 G-Ring (blue) - 32t
    XT 10 M780 speed trigger shifter
    XT brakes with 160mm rear and 180mm front
    XT shadow+ 10 speed rear derailleur
    Generic blue headset I found on ebay
    Pink Hope hubs laced to WTB i23 rims (32h, 3x)
    Pink Purely Custom top cap and seatpost clamp with my logo and brand (as per my avatar and signature)
    Geax AKA rear and Sturdy front.
    Time ATAC pedals

    I think that is about it

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    Cool

    A big change in bike for you, I hope you have heaps of fun on it.

    My friends & I are not planning on doing any races in the next 8 or so months, But are planning lots of fun trips away to do trails we have never seen before.

    It is cool to have a go anywhere bike for trips like that, Last trip we ended up having to climb up a few 15 ft banks with our bikes.

    It really felt like proper trail finding fun.


    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    L polished frame
    X-Fusion fork
    Fox shock (but want to talk to the distributor about the X-fusion option there too
    Spank Spoon riser bar (blue)
    Funn Crossfire stem (polished)
    WTB Silverado saddle
    ESI Chunky grips
    XT M780(?) crankset and BB
    E13 G-Ring (blue) - 32t
    XT 10 M780 speed trigger shifter
    XT brakes with 160mm rear and 180mm front
    XT shadow+ 10 speed rear derailleur
    Generic blue headset I found on ebay
    Pink Hope hubs laced to WTB i23 rims (32h, 3x)
    Pink Purely Custom top cap and seatpost clamp with my logo and brand (as per my avatar and signature)
    Geax AKA rear and Sturdy front.
    Time ATAC pedals

    I think that is about it
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    Yeah, agree with Muzz,Woah big change of bike for you Are you sure you can handle this much fun? Pics when she's done and agree on the X-Fusion shock instead of Fox - tell me you're looking at the Vector AIR HLR. By fork you do mean the TRACE, right? They have finally got the GSA into production, wonder if you'll get it on yours. You might find this link of interest X-Fusion?s Videos on Vimeo

    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    OK dropper post ordered.
    I now have everything (except the frame fork and dropper post which are all coming from the same distributor.

    HURRY UP BANSHEE!!!
    If you get here by the weekend I have a ride planned for you.
    One day your life will flash before your eyes, will it be worth watching??
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Yeah, agree with Muzz,Woah big change of bike for you Are you sure you can handle this much fun? Pics when she's done and agree on the X-Fusion shock instead of Fox - tell me you're looking at the Vector AIR HLR. By fork you do mean the TRACE, right? They have finally got the GSA into production, wonder if you'll get it on yours. You might find this link of interest X-Fusion?s Videos on Vimeo
    Yes, Trace.
    Will get onto Stu regarding the HLR.
    Not sure whether I will have more fun or just more smooth.

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    Well honestly, compared to what you've ben riding, it's going to feel VERY spoingy like one of them old Cadilacs, but once you get used to that it'll be fine. What you do have to watch out for is the very disheartening trait of the Prime to make you feel like Super Man Seriously, when you first point it down something super steep and knarly and trust it, you just won't believe it.
    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Yes, Trace.
    Will get onto Stu regarding the HLR.
    Not sure whether I will have more fun or just more smooth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Well honestly, compared to what you've ben riding, it's going to feel VERY spoingy like one of them old Cadilacs, but once you get used to that it'll be fine. What you do have to watch out for is the very disheartening trait of the Prime to make you feel like Super Man Seriously, when you first point it down something super steep and knarly and trust it, you just won't believe it.
    There is Nothing like stopping at the end of a trail & shaking your head & thinking, How the Hell did I get away with that.
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    Sounds like a really nice build, TR. You're gonna love it. I don't think that I've heard a bad report on a Prime yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    There is Nothing like stopping at the end of a trail & shaking your head & thinking, How the Hell did I get away with that.
    It becomes kind of common place on a Prime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    There is Nothing like stopping at the end of a trail & shaking your head & thinking, How the Hell did I get away with that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    It becomes kind of common place on a Prime.
    Haha so true!

    Exactly what I was thinking while taking this picture


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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Haha so true!

    Exactly what I was thinking while taking this picture


    _DSC5149 by emailsucks98, on Flickr
    Yes I really should stop & take more photo's, But when you having so much fun it's hard to stop.

    Time to get out the Go Pro again.
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    Problem with pictures and videos, they just don't do the gnar justice. There's nothing quite like that good old sphincter tightening you get when you're actually looking over the handlebars with full depth perception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Problem with pictures and videos, they just don't do the gnar justice. There's nothing quite like that good old sphincter tightening you get when you're actually looking over the handlebars with full depth perception.
    That is going to be my excuse when I post pictures in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    That is going to be my excuse when I post pictures in the future.
    Yes good tires & good brakes are a must.

    I have a friend that says he almost crashes some times, Looking & laughing at some of the brake lockup marks were I have really had to throw the bike into the corner & hope.

    With a Go Pro having a chest mount & not a helmet mount really helps to make the trail more real.
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    My Drift isn't a convenient chest mount, helmet is a breeze, goofed around a bit with a frame mount but had trouble keeping it out of the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Haha so true!

    Exactly what I was thinking while taking this picture


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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Problem with pictures and videos, they just don't do the gnar justice. There's nothing quite like that good old sphincter tightening you get when you're actually looking over the handlebars with full depth perception.
    This picture doesn't do this line justice.
    You can't see the bridge from the very top of this line until just before you roll onto it and then the lower half of the bridge still isn't visible once you're on it. And then there's a sweet tight bowl-like berm at the exit of the bridge that, if you dial it perfectly, shoots you up and over the short steep rise on the trail.
    I still haven't figured out how to capture the steepness of this line with a camera.

    Looking at this pic has just made me decide to ride this trail this afternoon!
    Thank you, FM!


    Speaking of pictures, I'd love to see more pics of the Prime in this thread. Whether it be the regular bike pr0n or action/riding shots.
    I've said it before and I'll say it again this thread does NOT deliver at all with pictures! I need my stoke to be kept high as to keep my savings plan in gear for my hopeful purchase next Spring of my Prime!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    This picture doesn't do this line justice.
    You can't see the bridge from the very top of this line until just before you roll onto it and then the lower half of the bridge still isn't visible once you're on it.
    Looking at this pic has just made me decide to ride this trail this afternoon!
    Thank you, FM!
    Oh man am I jealous!

    Good description- Not the biggest move but I rode it solo & blind the first time and that was really a thrill. Sort of "What did I get myself into? Too late to back out now!"

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    Props man, riding anything you're not 100% about it, solo takes cahones. Thing is sometimes you say to yourself when you start the trail "I won't ride that feature because no one's with me if it goes wrong", but sometimes, if you're lucky you just get into a groove and when the you approach the feature you just roll/rode it smooth as ever, no hesitation or bad thoughts and then you're like, "Man, can't believe I was thinking of not riding that".

    I'd post some pics, but seems that the folks behind the web side of the site STILL can't get the $hit together and figure out what they fvcked up to stop it from working
    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Oh man am I jealous!

    Good description- Not the biggest move but I rode it solo & blind the first time and that was really a thrill. Sort of "What did I get myself into? Too late to back out now!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Props man, riding anything you're not 100% about it, solo takes cahones. Thing is sometimes you say to yourself when you start the trail "I won't ride that feature because no one's with me if it goes wrong", but sometimes, if you're lucky you just get into a groove and when the you approach the feature you just roll/rode it smooth as ever, no hesitation or bad thoughts and then you're like, "Man, can't believe I was thinking of not riding that".

    I'd post some pics, but seems that the folks behind the web side of the site STILL can't get the $hit together and figure out what they fvcked up to stop it from working
    I had been posting pic's just fine & then I couldn't for along time.

    So with some playing around I found the way I had been doing it no longer works & now I have to do it this way.

    Under the reply box I go to,
    Up Load Images,

    Then Add files

    Then Basic Up loader

    Then up load files,

    & then Done.

    It is working for me now.

    I used to just use basic up loader & it worked fine & now it doesn't work that way.

    Now I can't see my old photo's but can see my new ones.
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    Production Prime Photo/Build thread

    Already posted in the 29er forum, but I figure I should post in the official thread as well if I want to join the Prime club.

    My new ride:




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    Hot!

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    Sweet looking Prime. Is that a niner bar? Eweeeeeeee, change that front tyre like, ASAP, put on a Prg instead if you're a Special guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by AOK View Post
    Already posted in the 29er forum, but I figure I should post in the official thread as well if I want to join the Prime club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    Speaking of pictures, I'd love to see more pics of the Prime in this thread. Whether it be the regular bike pr0n or action/riding shots.
    I've said it before and I'll say it again this thread does NOT deliver at all with pictures! I need my stoke to be kept high as to keep my savings plan in gear for my hopeful purchase next Spring of my Prime!
    My Prime on Cloverpatch in Oakridge, OR.


    At last weekend's Capitol Forest Enduro

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    Nice!

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    Sweet!!
    Thanks for that!
    Hopefully you'll get the ball rolling with picture posts again.

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    Production Prime Photo/Build thread-img_0328.jpg
    soon to updated with Zee rear shifter and wolf tooth..

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    Fresh from the weekend, before I threw it down on the granite and scratched the shyt out of the top tube.

    Production Prime Photo/Build thread-img_0537.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Fresh from the weekend, before I threw it down on the granite and scratched the shyt out of the top tube.

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    Little quick rocky drop. Turn your volume down, lots of static.

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    Nice!

    Last schralps of summer here....


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    You guys are KILLING me.
    Still waiting on the call to say that mine is here.
    Hurry up Aussie Customs Service!!!!

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    TR, you're gonna love it, the Prime eats this stuff up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    TR, you're gonna love it, the Prime eats this stuff up!
    I have no doubt I will love it.
    I am just impatient is all.

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    Being "patient".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Being "patient".
    Just use the time to plan trips to hard out trails.
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    Or, practice manualling out in your front yard. Sure, the neighbors will think you look silly, manualling with out a bike could seem a bit odd. But think of the head start you'll have for when you actually get your bike built, and you'll be glad that you practiced when you come upon that first trail obstacle.

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    Here we go.

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    Oooohhhhh!!!!

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    TR, hope we're not seeing completed build pics because you've already finished and are out on the trails having a blast Expect a ride report and fulls pics. Damn curious what you think compared to those "efficient" race bikes you've been riding in the past
    One day your life will flash before your eyes, will it be worth watching??
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    Sadly nowhere near finished for a couple of reasons.
    Firstly there is a lot of stuff I have not used before (dropper post, i-spec). Secondly the i-spec shifter I bought is not compatible with the brake. Third my wheels won't be finished until mid week.
    I am perhaps 2/3 finished otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Sadly nowhere near finished for a couple of reasons.
    Firstly there is a lot of stuff I have not used before (dropper post, i-spec). Secondly the i-spec shifter I bought is not compatible with the brake. Third my wheels won't be finished until mid week.
    I am perhaps 2/3 finished otherwise.
    It is always hard when you are waiting on someone else.
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    I have gotten this far:

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