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    Yes I think we like to take mud and just add more grit to it for the hell of it. Well certainly in the trail centres, but most of my riding is just local woods and bog lands etc... all fun and games

    However last weekend was a trip to 24/12 down plymouth way.

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    A few stream crossings later and she needed a clean in said stream!

    Back to mud riding in Caerphilly tomorrow.
    If anyone is every in the area, more than welcome to show you round some of the cheeky trails we got here

    As for the Fork, I think I am going to wait for some more user reviews to come out for the Pikes and give them a whirl in the new year if its looking promising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    I feel you on the removable spider cranks. I've got a X9 and X0 as well. I really want to bling out my SB95c and get the turquoise SixC crank, but I don't want to go back to chainring bolts. Even though I do think you can run down to a 30T on the new Race Face narrow/wide rings.
    To be fair, I'm probably softening on that stance now that you can get 30t rings that fit 104 BCD cranks without grinding them. I doubt I'd ever use a 28t 1x drivetrain.
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    As Swild said, Cane Creek do the 110 and you can buy the lower cup only if you wish. Had a Hope years ago thought it would be much better, got CC S-3 headsets for other non main rides and they worked flawlessly, so no longer buy the fancy ones. Have a CC 40 on my Prime, no issues, but like you I'd like some colour on my headset to match the rest of the bits, must say prefer the design of the King, but not sure it's worth it's premium.

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    I think Cane Creek 110 series is available in blue. I have CC 40's in all my bikes, no complaints.
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    Still collecting parts.
    Any other suggestions for blue headsets aside from King?
    Anything a little cheaper?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Still collecting parts.
    Any other suggestions for blue headsets aside from King?
    Anything a little cheaper?
    Totally satisfied with my Banshee Munroe headset so far. Smooth, quiet, inexpensive.
    It's similar to the cane creeks in terms of design... split conical race top & bottom
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    Quote Originally Posted by phat-ant View Post
    Hi Guys,
    Ive been running the prime since January now and its been great ride. I am now however getting some squeeking noisies from the rear end and I think it might be time to replace the bearings, does anyone have a list of which to obtain or if there is a kit available. I looked on the UK distributors website and couldnt see anything listed for the V2 frames or an exploded diagram on the banshee website.
    Any info would be great.
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    p.s. how are those Pikes holding up FM? Much better than 34s?
    The Pike is awesome so far. Definitely another level vs. the Fox stuff.... stiffer, less stiction, and the spring curve & damping feels much better.

    Hey regarding the squeaking. I went through some bearings on my proto and found that a creaking/ticking is what happens when you've got any bearing/pivot issues. Squeaking, I would think is not the bearings, maybe the shock or cables?

    My Prime is actually pulled apart at the moment- developed a creak during my whistler trip- but the pivot bearings checked out OK (except for the LH seatstay which was just a little notchy)- looks like my BB was the culprit.

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    Cheers FM, I think my bottom bracket is toast anyhow need to swap it out for the spare I have. also need a new chain and cassette as i think ive got about 3mm of stretch on the go

    Glad to hear the reports on the Pike, I bumped into someone with the 650b dual pos ones i the woods last week and he was loving them, just wondering if the servicing intervals are as bad as the fox stuff.

    The bombers on my other bike have been faultless for 6000+kms I just don't get why other brands can't get it right considering the crazy prices things are atm. any how thats another matter

    Prime = ace, love it.

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    My Prime has developed a terrible creaking. Any ideas if it might be the ks link? Can I check the bearings in some way?

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    Yes, very east to check the bearings, but if you want to check all you will need to remove the crankset. All you need are some 4, 5 & 6 mm allen keys and whatever you need to remove your crankset. Have you checked to make sure that all the suspension bolts are snugged up properly and nothing else is loose? Checked QR skewers if you have them, seatpost clamp, saddle rails, headset, chainring bolts etc?

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    My Prime has developed a terrible creaking. Any ideas if it might be the ks link? Can I check the bearings in some way?
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    Loving my prime so far, little room for improvements.. feels good even in the bikepark on the medium / big sized stuff
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    propably a pike would be nice to have

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    Please make the pictures bigger.

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    Yep the pike's are good.

    Quote Originally Posted by teatimetom View Post
    Loving my prime so far, little room for improvements.. feels good even in the bikepark on the medium / big sized stuff
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    propably a pike would be nice to have
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    Creaking follow up; I was really getting fed up with the nasty creaking I had going on after my whistler trip. Pulled my pivots apart; alignment was perfect and all bearings felt good. replaced my pedal bushings, packed my BB full of grease, rebuilt rear hub & headset.

    In the end it was my seatpost! LOL.

    Did one of the bigger rides of the season saturday, 8hrs, 5500' up & down on fantastic singletrack, 5 alpine lakes, topped out at 8300'. The Prime was silent on the climb and so fun on the descents!


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    Only asking because you've stated that with your gearing you do some pushing, how much of this did you pedal?

    Looks beautiful, by the way. I'd love to spend 8 hours in surroundings like that. Pushing, no doubt, even with my sissy granny gears, LOL. What kind of temperature?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Only asking because you've stated that with your gearing you do some pushing, how much of this did you pedal?

    Looks beautiful, by the way. I'd love to spend 8 hours in surroundings like that. Pushing, no doubt, even with my sissy granny gears, LOL. What kind of temperature?
    This time around I was able to pedal most all the climb up to Cooney Lake, which was the first ~3200' vert. From there it was another ~700 up that is not rideable at all.
    The third climb on this ride is another ~1000' plus, pretty technical, I walked much of that too, maybe could have pedaled more with a granny but I save my energy for the DH.
    Temps were in the 70's which was nice, I've done this ride before on hot days and the heat and altitude can really be a killer.

    Did the same loop as an overnighter last year on my proto. Marmots!


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    Very nice, FM. Funny about saving energy for the DH's, wouldn't think you'd need to, but I've had plenty that have worn me out.

    Sounds like you had an awesome ride.

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    Production Prime Photo/Build thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Very nice, FM. Funny about saving energy for the DH's, wouldn't think you'd need to, but I've had plenty that have worn me out.

    Sounds like you had an awesome ride.
    One ride I try to fit in every summer features a punishing series of downhills, after ~3,500 - 4,000 feet of climbing, depending on the approach. I posted some photos in Passion a week or so ago. Anyway, more to the point, last year one of the riders with us gasped "At least it's easy from here!" when he made it to the top. I really didn't mean to, but I laughed out loud.
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    definitely, my all time favorite trail, and really only accessible 8 weeks a year.
    I'm by no means super fit, I drink too much beer, but I do make a point of keeping fit enough to enjoy this ride every season. Keeps me going all winter!
    Hope to get out there again when the larches start to go gold...

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    fair play FM that looks epic the old Seatpost creak is bloody annoying!
    How did the Pikes get on with the trip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phat-ant View Post
    How did the Pikes get on with the trip?
    Loving the pike! Great mid stroke support with the LSC backed off, and plenty stiff too. Bike is riding great right now.

    Got a few other big rides coming up, I'll continue to share the stoke!

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    Polished large finally ordered!!!!
    Cannot wait.

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    Good on you, Looking forward to hearing what you think.

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    I had a creak/cracking sound, thought it was my F34's, didnt find it kept riding, now its gone.

    Go figure?

    This bike is quietest bike by far i've had, since i don't have chain slap anymore all i can hear is pretty much freewheel and some sounds from fork when oil is moving around on downhills, which is nice!
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    Sunday evening I discovered that I had somehow broken the axle sleeve inside my e*thirteen LG1+ rear hub. Today, a replacement upgrade kit arrived at my LBS. 5 full business days from contact initiation until repair parts received. This is probably the fastest customer support that I have ever received. Kudos to Charlie at the Hive, and to the Hive in general for promoting award winning customer service.

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    Picked up my 150mm 51mm offset Pike today. Oh boy, oh boy!! 10 more millimeters of buttah!! Man, I spoil me.

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    Out of curiosity...are there any recommendations which offset fork to run on the prime?
    any thoughts/experiences?
    An Ibis ripley is build around 51mm, the prime will accept both depending on riding style?
    Thx

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    nomutze, it's probably all just a matter of opinion. If you look at the numbers, and trail calculations, there is a somewhat substantial difference between the 46 and 51 mm offsets. For those that really get into the numbers, the Prime is better suited to the 51mm. For the Neanderthals out there, myself at the top of the list, I don't feel that there much difference, you will adapt to however it handles. When I bought my 140mm Pike, I bought a 46mm because I didn't even know that there was a difference, my Prime accepted it amazingly. I've since bought a 150mm, and I got a 51mm, simply because the numbers guys out there said that it would be the best choice. I'll bet you $100 that I won't be able to tell the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    Picked up my 150mm 51mm offset Pike today. Oh boy, oh boy!! 10 more millimeters of buttah!! Man, I spoil me.
    Haha and next year you buy the 160mm pike ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkey View Post
    Haha and next year you buy the 160mm pike ?
    Next year??? Next week!!!

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    Putting the 140 on my Paradox, needed a new Prime fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomütze View Post
    Out of curiosity...are there any recommendations which offset fork to run on the prime?
    any thoughts/experiences?
    An Ibis ripley is build around 51mm, the prime will accept both depending on riding style?
    Thx
    I messaged Keith with that exact question and he said either or. He said handling between a 46mm and a 51mm offset would be nearly imperceptible. I already had a Fox 34, which is a 51mm offset, so I stuck with what I knew.

    It's interesting that all the newer forks are going with "G2" offsets. Hmmm... Maybe Fisher was on to something a decade ago???

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Got a few other big rides coming up, I'll continue to share the stoke!


    Smith Creek Epic (Mt St Helens)
    on the Prime with friends Saturday.
    Not the flowiest descent ever, but so cool to ride on an active volcano that blew 34 years ago. Mind blowing scenery, for sure!


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    Really cool!
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    Beautiful, FM. I have half a notion to drive up there so you can show me around.

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    1400 miles Phoenix to Mt St Helens. When does your riding season end?

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    We have pretty decent riding year round, but the longer epic stuff I've been posting about shuts down about mid-sept.
    Lots of great stuff near Wenatchee.
    I'm always stoked to host/guide, if not this year make it happen next year!

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    FM, I've got some vacation on the books, the next few days I'll be looking into the logistics of this. I haven't had a decent vacation in 4 years, I'm due.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    If you must use CK Chris King I2 44/56 ZS Tapered Headset > Components > Headsets and Spacers > Headsets | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop

    Fork wise, agree with MP on the X-Fusion TRACE, most definitely a much cheaper options compared to RS and Fox and definitely a nice fork for the $$.
    Will this work?

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    According to the description, YES, that is the type of headset the production Prime uses 44/56 zero stack.

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    Will this work?

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    Cheers Lynx.
    More $ to spend elsewhere.
    Spokes and tyres to go.

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    Competitions??
    Or something else.
    Being laced 3X between Hopes and i23's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Competitions??
    Or something else.
    Being laced 3X between Hopes and i23's.
    I tried some i23's, nice, but I ended up with Flow EX's for the little extra width, for my DHF. If you plan to stay 2.3 or under, the i23 will make for a very nice wheel. WTB is planning to release an i25, which would certainly pique my interest. Or the new Syntace offerings.

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    I think WTB has been talking about the i25 for some time but tnothing has happened with it.
    I am going with i23 over Flow mainly because it is a proper tubless ready option vs Stans.
    Why would you say to stick below a 2.3?
    I will be running HD's, Sturdy's or Ardent 2.4's.
    I run Hans Dampf front and Weirwolf rear on my i19's currently and have not had a problem.

    But I am reasonably light (for my height) at 83kg.

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    FM, you suck! I grew up in Portland(well, Vancouver, WA) and now I'm stuck in Kansas City. I wasn't into biking when I lived there but I hiked Mt. St. Helens several times with my girlfriend. SURREAL landscape! Have you seen the IMAX film at the Visitor's Center? By far, the craziest landscape I've ever set foot on. It would be awesome to ride it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    I think WTB has been talking about the i25 for some time but tnothing has happened with it.
    I am going with i23 over Flow mainly because it is a proper tubless ready option vs Stans.
    Why would you say to stick below a 2.3?
    I will be running HD's, Sturdy's or Ardent 2.4's.
    I run Hans Dampf front and Weirwolf rear on my i19's currently and have not had a problem.

    But I am reasonably light (for my height) at 83kg.
    I'm just a fat rim kinda guy, but I personally think that 2.3 or wider should be on a wider rim. I don't doubt that you haven't had problems with your i19's, but if you rode a wider rim you would definitely notice improved handling and better tire feel. If you're building up 23's, you'll see what I mean. I have been riding 23 wides for a few years, then went wider still with the Flow's EX's went I went 2.5 on my front. Noticeable difference.

    I agree with your opinion of the WTB's. Not only are they proper tubeless, but they are also a very nice rim, a bit more material in the bead area than a Flow. If the i25's were available when I built my last wheelset, I would have used them instead of the Flow's.

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    I've got a chunky little Prime video down towards the bottom of this page.

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    Dropper posts........discuss.
    Do I need one?
    Or just stick with the standard post?

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    PS.
    Lynx, I got some of the Sturdy's.
    I like them a lot.
    Similar size to the Hans Dampf but chiunkier and about half the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Dropper posts........discuss.
    Do I need one?
    Or just stick with the standard post?
    Dropper posts are the best bang for your buck when it comes to ridding a bike like this well.
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    Droppers are like microwave ovens and cell phones, you certainly don't need one, but once you start using one you'll never understand how you survived so long without one. Use mine all of the time, love the KS posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR View Post
    Dropper posts........discuss.
    Do I need one?
    Or just stick with the standard post?
    Yes you need one.

    If you go without and then buy one, you'll kick yourself to head why you didn't get one sooner.

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