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    Well I didn't buy the shock for the Prime, I had it on my Lenz. I have the RWS bearings in the HLR and would need to get new shock hardware for the Prime before I could install it.

    Also x2, AOK and I ride similar terrain...so thats why

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    Production Prime Photo/Build thread

    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Really don't understand when people say stuff like this, have a shock sitting there, but prefer to hear what someone else thinks
    Er... Because this is a bike forum to discuss bike stuff? Yeesh....

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    Hum, thought the Cane Creek used the same size 1/2" hardware as the Fox. X-Fusion, RS stuff

    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    Well I didn't buy the shock for the Prime, I had it on my Lenz. I have the RWS bearings in the HLR and would need to get new shock hardware for the Prime before I could install it.

    Also x2, AOK and I ride similar terrain...so thats why
    Yeah, I know Maybe it's just me, but if I had the shock and all it took was getting the hardware, there's not even the slightest chance I wouldn't do that and try it out and then know I had a good backup shock with hardware in case anything happened to the other, that is if I didn't like it
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    Er... Because this is a bike forum to discuss bike stuff? Yeesh....
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    The DBair does have the 1/2 size hardware, but I'd rather not press out the needle bearings and swap it all around. Not to mention I'm pretty pleased with the DBair on the Prime.

    If you want to buy the RWS hardware for me I'll be glad to try it out

    Obviously if I was dying to try it out, I would have already done it. For now, AOK's opinion will suffice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Hum, thought the Cane Creek used the same size 1/2" hardware as the Fox. X-Fusion, RS stuff
    I don't remember for sure, it's been well over a year, but when I took off my Fox shock, the CC was not a swap the hardware and reinstall. I made some sleeves/bushings, and pressed them in.

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    Don't you have the original hardware that came with it, DU bushings etc or did you just do the RWC stuff? I've done needle bearing in the past, but honestly, with how straight the shock cycles on the new KS link, I don't think it's needed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    The DBair does have the 1/2 size hardware, but I'd rather not press out the needle bearings and swap it all around. Not to mention I'm pretty pleased with the DBair on the Prime.

    If you want to buy the RWS hardware for me I'll be glad to try it out

    Obviously if I was dying to try it out, I would have already done it. For now, AOK's opinion will suffice.
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    I bought it second hand with the RWC bearings. Agreed that it isn't particularly needed, but it won't hurt.
    Last edited by Colin+M; 03-19-2014 at 06:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimus View Post
    I don't remember for sure, it's been well over a year, but when I took off my Fox shock, the CC was not a swap the hardware and reinstall. I made some sleeves/bushings, and pressed them in.
    Similar to Optimus, it's been a while since I replaced my DHX-A with a Vector Air so I don't remember the details, but I needed new hardware. IIRC, the width of the attachment points were different.

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    Production Prime Photo/Build thread

    Well that was fun! Got in a short lunchtime ride with the new shock. I am far from a suspension expert, but I am starting to understand the comments about "lacking mid stroke support" and "blows through travel" when discussing the Fox CTD.

    With just a little tweaking I had the Vector giving me a smooth ride with good small bump sensitivity and still providing a great pedaling platform feel. Nice! I'm sure I will continue to play with the settings, but I am happy with my decision to upgrade from the Fox.

    Also, the Vector seems like a much better match for the Pike up front. Much more balanced feel overall.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AOK View Post
    Well that was fun! Got in a short lunchtime ride with the new shock. I am far from a suspension expert, but I am starting to understand the comments about "lacking mid stroke support" and "blows through travel" when discussing the Fox CTD.
    Change that to "DHX-A" and that was my experience exactly. It was eye-opening.

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    Haven't had a chance to upgrade mine, but can confirm the thing (DHXA) just blows through mid stroke, re-shimming helped a bit, but still not impressed. When funds allow, I'll be getting one for my Prime.
    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    Change that to "DHX-A" and that was my experience exactly. It was eye-opening.
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    Lynx, you'll be happy to know that I ordered the RWC hardware for the Prime today. Our long, international crisis is over

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    Here's my XL 2012er.

    Raw with Rev RCT3s, Black Flag Pro wheelset, XT drivetrain, Formula The One brakes, Thomson 'hardware', Atlas 780mm bars.
    Shown in the 'xc-ish' disguise. If going on bigger trails, I'll have Ardent 2.4 tires and a Reverb mounted.


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    Phew, I was starting to wonder is I was going to have to petition the UN to intervene
    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    Lynx, you'll be happy to know that I ordered the RWC hardware for the Prime today. Our long, international crisis is over
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    I just got my membership!

    !STOKED!

    I just picked up my Prime today!

    XL raw 2013 frame w 142mm dropouts (Will pick up 150mm when available.)
    CCDBa CS shock
    2014 Fox 34 Float CTD FIT 140
    Zero stack Banshee headset

    It turns out that I got the last XL frame currently available from the Canadian Banshee distributer. Either there's a lot of giants riding this frame or Banshee didn't produce enough. I know my first and second choice of frame colours weren't available in my size. But I'll suck it up and enjoy the hell out of this frame colour!!

    My build should come together in the next couple of months. I need to start back at my summer season job to benefit from the employee deals/discounts to complete my build.
    Now that I actually have the frame the fire has seriously been lit to get my ****(the censorship on this site is cute!) together and get this bike built! Before the purchase it was still just an idea. But now it's real!!

    I'm not fussed that it isn't a 2014 frame with the stealth routing option because I'm planning on running a KS Lev 150mm. I've heard that the Integra still doesn't really have all its kinks worked out of it and the regular Lev is great anyway.

    My only nitpick is that the frame has a clearcoat finish. Which means that I can't remove the decals. I like an understated look with just a few brand details - notice the fork.
    Oh well, I'll get over it once I start spinning the pedals.


    Here's some bike pr0n!
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    Here she is making love to the camera.
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    Just my size.
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    I'm sure there's a witty line about PRIME riding hiding in here.
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    The sexiness of the CBDBa CS.
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    The big booty end of the CBDBa CS!
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    With a claim like this I'm sure this bike can withstand a serious thrashing under me!
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    The 29er Float standing tall.
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    Looking good R.E. you're going to have a great riding season this year and many in the years to come. As to the graphics, yeah, not a fan, but if you really don't like them a little aircraft thinners/remover/stripper will easily remove that clearcoat and the subsequent stickers/decals.
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    Congratulations, and thanks for the porn. Until you build it, you should keep it in a lighted display case in your living room. Good lord those stays are beefy.

    I've been lusting after the Prime for a while now. I'm in Texas, and we just got a Banshee dealer - Canyon Cycles West of Austin. They don't have a demo, but the owner is trying to work out a test ride for me with one of his customers that has an XL. So I might finally get to throw a leg over one of these beasts!

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    Hi Guys,
    My lower DU bushings have gone on my fox CTD, and it was just wanting to double check the size to order, as I don't seem to be able to find it on the website.
    A rough measurement puts the hole size at 8mm and the width at 40mm can someone confirm more accurate measurements please?
    Thanks.

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    40x8mm and 25.4x8mm

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    Confirmed! You will find it on the "Geometry"-page...

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    Done a bit of spring updating to the Prime before heading down to Fruita/Moab, got a Pike solo 150, KS Lev 150, and a new set of wheels built up - green I9 Torch classics w/ Derby 35mm carbon rims. Once the weather co-operates I'll try and get a better shot.
    Got to say it is weird getting back on regular skinny wheels after 4 - 5 months of riding a fatbike...
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    Well well well, thanks guys, blind as a bat i didnt spot that! now i need to find some where to buy them!

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    Chime-in for Keith.

    what size of chainring the Prime's suspension is optimized for?
    I'm switching to 30 (28 sometimes), from 32.
    would I experience any negatives from the change?
    thanks

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    The Prime is optimised for the 28-32 range... there is no such thing as an exact chainring size for any frame (no matter what marketing people tell you) as it changes as soon as you change gear, and varies depending on how much sag you run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    The Prime is optimised for the 28-32 range... there is no such thing as an exact chainring size for any frame (no matter what marketing people tell you) as it changes as soon as you change gear, and varies depending on how much sag you run.
    thanks Keith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    The Prime is optimised for the 28-32 range... there is no such thing as an exact chainring size for any frame (no matter what marketing people tell you) as it changes as soon as you change gear, and varies depending on how much sag you run.
    So I should dump my 34t and go back to a 30t??? What would I notice by doing so? less Bob? I don't have much when I put the CS switch on my DBAir as is. . .
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    I wouldn't say so, as Keith said, that's for that ring with a specific cog, so it all depends on what cog you're using at the time. Me personally am not a fan of 1x, we just have too steep hills around here for that, so I run a 24/38 double and have no trouble cranking out in the 38t if I'm feeling strong on a climb and have traction.
    Quote Originally Posted by unrooted View Post
    So I should dump my 34t and go back to a 30t??? What would I notice by doing so? less Bob? I don't have much when I put the CS switch on my DBAir as is. . .
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    Yeah, that range is if you are running single speed up front. But if you go out of the range it's not like the bike will not still work well. It's just that the antisquat varies with chainring size slightly. Most people wouldn't even be able to feel any difference between 30tooth and 36tooth in terms of how it pedals at same torque levels, so I really wouldn't get too hung up on it.
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    Quick question, for you guys that have switched from 135qr to 142x12 what axle are you guys running?
    It's go time

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    The Prime 142 droputs come with its own axle.

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    mine didn't, I bought the frame used and it has the 135 dropouts on it but came with the 142 dropouts but no axle. I haven't really kept up with all the new standards and junk over the years. are all 142 axles the same? cant seem to find any info.
    It's go time

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    Others can confirm, but I think it is the Syntace X-12 style not Shimano. There is a difference. If it's Syntace, then I would get a DT RWS axle and call it good.

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    Production Prime Photo/Build thread

    It isn't a Shimano axle config.

    I think someone posted here or in another thread that the RS maxle will work for the Prime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOK View Post
    It isn't a Shimano axle config.

    I think someone posted here or in another thread that the RS maxle will work for the Prime.
    yup the RS Axle works. I use it for my prime

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    Out of curiosity, any other Prime owners heading to the Fruita Fat Tire festival this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinS View Post
    Out of curiosity, any other Prime owners heading to the Fruita Fat Tire festival this year?
    I'm sure I will be there for some of it...but, I live in Fruita


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    Lucky you!
    If you are up for a ride with a tall, middle aged, post winter pale Canadian who has only ridden a fatbike for the last 5 months let me know!
    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    I'm sure I will be there for some of it...but, I live in Fruita

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    I'll be in the area in the latter half of May, too. Dividing a trip between Moab and western CO.

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    Stuck CCDBA CS XV on my Prime.

    Omfgwtfbbqtasticly good on downhill now.

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    Here is my girl! I flirted with the idea of selling her, but can't bring myself to do so. Its done everything I've asked of it and taken me places that I thought it had no business doing. I personally never really believed in a "quiver killer" type of bike. I've always tried to have a single bike and always wanted something different for different riding environments. Yet on the Prime it's fairly composed in every situations I've taken it. I've done epic back county rides (50+ miles), full blown DH days, jump park days, even took to camp woodward in NorCal to play in a foam pit (I sucked there! but it was a blast to try).

    Prime Large Frame w/ ccdb air
    Pike 150 Solo Air
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    Sram X9 / Type 2 Shifter and derailleur
    Race Face N/W 30T Chainring (LOTS of climbing)
    KS Lev 150
    Answer Pro Stem 50mm
    Race Face SIXC Bars

    Overall that's the build. It's crazy fun, capable and not a terrible weight at 31.5lbs.

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    Production Prime Photo/Build thread

    That's a quality build spec.

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    Yeah, Monty, nice bike. And for the most part, our sentiments exactly. While I do tend to ride my Paradox for more "pedally" things, IMO my Prime could very well be my only bike. I get a kick out of the fact that all of the Prime pics we see are sporting Pikes. The pair were meant to be.

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    i assume it is save to run a 203mm rotor rear or?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hizzity View Post
    Quick question, for you guys that have switched from 135qr to 142x12 what axle are you guys running?
    email these guys: Sales@Fanatikbike.com

    Banshee 12x142mm Bolt-On Axle - Fanatik Bike Co. - Bellingham Wa

    I bought one from them for $35 +shipping, which is much cheaper than the RS Maxle.

    Just make certain you use a torque wrench, the aluminum is rather soft and the torque setting is super low, like 3kn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    Nice anchor. But hey, steel is real!
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    LOVE that Day Glo yellow. I've a feeling that you're going to hang onto the Prime, even when you get your Phantom. What finish are you getting your Phantom in? What made you decide to give the Coil version of the CC DB a try, is it because you already know you'll be keeping the Prime like I said and building it more burly for "big days"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    LOVE that Day Glo yellow.

    Forgot to say that, but ditto. My eyes!
    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    And I thought I had a bike obsession. You are at once tragic and awesome.

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    Why a coil? Why not a coil?

    Curiosity mainly. If I like the ride of it I might get a Ti spring down the road once I figure out which pound spring I like.

    It's about a 350g penalty from the DBair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    LOVE that Day Glo yellow. I've a feeling that you're going to hang onto the Prime, even when you get your Phantom. What finish are you getting your Phantom in? What made you decide to give the Coil version of the CC DB a try, is it because you already know you'll be keeping the Prime like I said and building it more burly for "big days"?
    Doing the Stealth black in the Phantom.

    And yes, since they aren't making the Yellow anymore I might have to hold onto this one whether it ends up seeing much use or not.

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    Re: Production Prime Photo/Build thread



    Steel may be real, but Titanium is a dream!

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    Nice rack.
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    nice ( . Y . ) rack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post


    Steel may be real, but Titanium is a dream!
    I haven't looked that hard, but have never came across a coil spring CCDB in the right size. Where did you find, and how do you like?

    Btw, your Pike and ENVE wheels are defective, please send them to me for evaluation.

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    I got the CCDB at Universal Cycles.

    As a bigger rider, it really helps with midstroke support. Loving it so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    I got the CCDB at Universal Cycles.

    As a bigger rider, it really helps with midstroke support. Loving it so far.

    yeah, coil is the way to go for bigger guys really. and really, there is no air shock that is equal to a coil, hence every maker of an air shock saying it offers a coil like ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    I got the CCDB at Universal Cycles.

    As a bigger rider, it really helps with midstroke support. Loving it so far.
    Oh, how I wish I ordered a CCDB coil with my prime...instead of the Air. All along I had this gut feeling it was the way to go...

    Already sent my CCDB Air in for sleeve issues...thankfully, covered by warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    it really helps with midstroke support.
    I need all the midstroke support I can get!! haha

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    Badabing!

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    Hey Guys,

    I have had a looksie on the website etc.. however I can't find an exploded view of the prime frame.

    I need to replace the bearings and wanted to make sure it all goes back together correctly

    Also am I correct in thinking that a bearing tool such as this might do the trick?

    Superstar Components - High Spec Parts For Peanuts

    In the 608 and 6001 sizes.

    I already have the replacement SKF bearings.

    But could do with the tools.

    Thanks!

    p.s. keep the photos coming

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    From the looks of it, yes, should work for whatever bearings you need to remove/install on a lot of frames. If you want some other ideas, you could check out my thread from when I did my Trance Trance Bearing replacement How To.
    Quote Originally Posted by phat-ant View Post
    Hey Guys,
    I have had a looksie on the website etc.. however I can't find an exploded view of the prime frame. I need to replace the bearings and wanted to make sure it all goes back together correctly

    Also am I correct in thinking that a bearing tool such as this might do the trick? Superstar Components - High Spec Parts For Peanuts In the 608 and 6001 sizes. I already have the replacement SKF bearings. But could do with the tools.

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    Colin+M- That's a friggin sweet build, I always thought I liked the raw better. Yellow is it!
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    Thanks Lynx, I was toying with the idea of making my own but im quite lazy perhaps ill go over to the parents house and spin up the lathe! save a few pounds.

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    Hi,
    I'm Alex from France, and here is my new babe !
    A Banshee Prime 2013, Raw!
    It is my first hand built, do it myself for all the parts, i'm happy !

    Amazing bike, do everything i'm in love !!

    And thanx to all of you on banshee mtbr forum, i read you a lot and could get many usefull informations in order to build this bike.

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    Complete Set Up :

    Frame : Banshee Prime 2013 Raw, medium size, neutral slack (68°)
    Rear Dropouts : 12x142
    Rear axle : RockShox Maxle Lite QR 12x142
    Fork : RockShox Revelation RCT3 solo Air 140mm 2014
    Shock : Fox Float CTD Kashima Trail Adjust
    Wheels : Race Face Turbine 29er
    F Tire : Maxxis High Roller II Exo 2.3
    R Tire : Maxxis Ardent 2.25
    Cranks : SRAM X9 (22-36+Bash)
    Bottom Bracket : SRAM GXP
    Shifters : SRAM X9
    F Derailleur : SRAM X0
    R Derailleur: SRAM X9 type 2
    Cassette : SRAM PG1050 12-36
    Chain : SRAM PG1071
    Pedals : Nukeproof Neutron
    Brakes : Hope Tech 3 E4 + 183mm Hope floating discs F/R
    Headset : Cane Creek 40 Zero Stack
    Stem : Thomson Elite X4 70mm
    Handlebar : Thomson Trail Alu 750mm
    Grips : Oury Mountain Lock On
    Seatpost : Banshee
    Seatpost collar : Hope QR
    Saddle : WTB Volt Team

    coming next : a RS Reverb of course !!

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    At the top of Time Warp in Ashland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Willanholly View Post
    At the top of Time Warp in Ashland.
    Nice... tell us about your fork, inquiring minds want to know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Nice... tell us about your fork, inquiring minds want to know!
    Sharp eyes! This Ashland trip was my first ride on the Avy cartridge. I found it to be a significant improvement over the stock Fox damper. I felt like it did a much better job of smoothing out the trail chatter while not diving under hard braking or cornering. Last year on the same trails my hands were really taking a beating. This year was a different story.

    To be fair, I did replace the wiper seals and air head seals at the same time I installed the cartridge. I also used the new Fox gold 20w oil in the lowers (at least on the air spring side, damper side is now open bath). I'm sure this also contributed to the lack of stiction, but the way the fork stayed up in its travel while remaining plush was all down to the Avy cart.

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    Nice pic from a ride out in Crowsnest Pass, AB. Nothing overly tech, but a scenic shot.

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    Hi guys,
    I need some help. Can anyone with a XL confirm that the wheelbase is actually 48 inches as per the website?
    I'm 5 foot 11 and can get a good deal on a XL, but afraid it may be too big for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willyswildride View Post
    Hi guys,
    I need some help. Can anyone with a XL confirm that the wheelbase is actually 48 inches as per the website?
    I'm 5 foot 11 and can get a good deal on a XL, but afraid it may be too big for me.

    Cheers.
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    Yep, 48". At 5'11" you are too small for an XL unless you have a freaky short inseam, like 28" and really long arms. XL Banshees are bigger than most other companies XL's. I'm 6'4" with shortish legs and run a 60mm stem on mine, fits like a glove.

    Quote Originally Posted by Willyswildride View Post
    Hi guys,
    I need some help. Can anyone with a XL confirm that the wheelbase is actually 48 inches as per the website?
    I'm 5 foot 11 and can get a good deal on a XL, but afraid it may be too big for me.

    Cheers.

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    I'm 6'3" on a (pre-production) large, and it fits me and my short legs/long torso perfectly. It also fit my friend well at 5'11" and 34" inseam. I suspect a XL will be too much for you.

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    Way too big man!
    I'm 6"1 on L and 50mm stem and I've never felt better on a bike.

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    As the others said, an XL is WAY too big for you, way too big. I'm 6'2.25" long a$$ arms and legs and I have an XL pre-production because that's what I always rode (XLs) and the Large was too small, ended up running a 65mm stem and 785mm wide bar and it was fun, but now on a Large Phantom with the 450mm Reach, same bar/stem and it feels much better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Willyswildride View Post
    Hi guys,
    I need some help. Can anyone with a XL confirm that the wheelbase is actually 48 inches as per the website?
    I'm 5 foot 11 and can get a good deal on a XL, but afraid it may be too big for me.

    Cheers.
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    If you can wait a week or so I'll be getting rid of my medium yellow frame once my Phantom gets here. I'm 5'11 and it fits me well for a longer travel bike with a 60-70mm stem and 760mm bars.

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    6'0", "average" build, medium fits great with a 65mm stem and 750mm bars.

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    I wish it was solid. Last I heard it was on the boat to the distributor. This was a week or so ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    If you can wait a week or so I'll be getting rid of my medium yellow frame once my Phantom gets here. I'm 5'11 and it fits me well for a longer travel bike with a 60-70mm stem and 760mm bars.
    Does that mean you got a solid date on when your Phantom ships?

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    From their FB page...
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    Darkside and Phantom Update for North American Customers:

    The Darksides and Phantoms are on the water to our North American Distributor Trident Sports, and should be landing before the end of the month. We are sorry for the slight delay due to a shipping issue.
    Don't worry man, like the Prime, it'll be well worth the wait
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    Does that mean you got a solid date on when your Phantom ships?
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    I thought I would update this thread with some thoughts after almost 2 years aboard the Prime.

    I think this is the longest I can remember owning a frame without even considering something different. The Prime has met all of my MTB'ing needs the last 2 seasons, and then some. After moving to Fruita, CO last July, the bike has seen a substantial amount of additional abuse without even flinching. In fact, I just finished the first bit of maintenance it has seen since I moved here (mostly due to the transition and all my tools being in boxes). The frame has performed flawlessly! It is an amazingly stout chassis that loves to be abused...it simply takes all you can dish out while begging for more

    My only gripe would be the Fox CTD. I have been consistently underwhelmed by it's performance, but am likely going to upgrade both ends soon with an Avalanche tuned solution.
    For only 130mm of rear travel, the bike is amazingly competent in the chunk and I look forward to continue testing it's limits!

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    Yeah, totally agree, I'm in the second season on my production version plus 1 season on the proto. The bike gets better with age, if anything happens to it I'd buy it all over again.

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    @jncarpenter, in the first photo I see you have Derby rims on the Prime and then in the all the following pics you're running different rims/wheels.

    What are your thoughts on the Derby's? And, why are you not using them in the action shots?

    I'm curious because I have a set of Derby Heavy Duty 29" rims waiting to be built up for my ever so slow Prime build project.
    Also, I see that you're a small guy. Which I'm not. So, if you have any concerns about the Derby's I will start to be worried!
    I've also come across some chatter on the intertubes about Derby rims and weight limits that has me ever so slightly concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    @jncarpenter, in the first photo I see you have Derby rims on the Prime and then in the all the following pics you're running different rims/wheels.

    What are your thoughts on the Derby's? And, why are you not using them in the action shots?

    I'm curious because I have a set of Derby Heavy Duty 29" rims waiting to be built up for my ever so slow Prime build project.
    Also, I see that you're a small guy. Which I'm not. So, if you have any concerns about the Derby's I will start to be worried!
    I've also come across some chatter on the intertubes about Derby rims and weight limits that has me ever so slightly concerned.
    his quote says here is a pic of the "current" build and some shots from the year. looks to me like the derbys are a new addition

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    Yes, Derby's are a new addition & have been superb thus far. Also, @RideEverything, you must be a giant to refer to me as a "smaller guy" when I am 6' & 225 lbs


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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinS View Post
    Yeah, totally agree, I'm in the second season on my production version plus 1 season on the proto.
    Same here and I'm still loving mine as well! Haven't posted a build update in a while, but I got mine down to 30lbs for this season, with Next SL carbon cranks, renthal carbon bars & xtr brakes. I've come around to liking the fork at 160mm (now that my shoulder is healed up). Also upgraded to a Monarch plus rc3 with LL tune.

    I did have a chance to briefly ride a buddies 2015 carbon nomad the other night- he's sponsored so it's the full-team build with xx1, 27.5 enve M wheels, pike/debonair suspension. Nice bike! It kind of confirmed to me what an awesome ride the prime is though (especially considering the price difference), and also some of the pros & cons of the different wheelsize/travel options.

    It seems to me a lot of the newer 27.5 enduro-geometry frames are tending towards longer wheelbase & chainstays, to sort of emulate the stability of AM 29'ers like the prime, but without the inertia & travel limites of bigger wheels.

    Anyways, I think one of the coolest things is that I really have no minor gripes or constructive criticism about the product prime after 2 seasons. Usually there's at least something minor to complain about like paint quality or cable routing, or standards evolving, but I really can't think of anything...if mine was stolen I'd build up the exact same bike (assuming I could afford it again LOL).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    Yes, Derby's are a new addition & have been superb thus far. Also, @RideEverything, you must be a giant to refer to me as a "smaller guy" when I am 6' & 225 lbs
    lol!
    I realize that I had confused you with someone else. Also, that you're on a pre production Prime which doesn't have the large gap on the support between the ST and TT, like the XL does on the production frame, making it look like a smaller sized frame at a quick glance.

    *edit- looking at your photos of your bike again I see that you're on a production frame. What size is that?

    I'm not much bigger than you at 6'6", 235ish.
    Which means I'll be looking forward to your thoughts on the Derbys and how they hold up.
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    It's a production frame, just a medium.

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    I've been running the Derby's all spring, tubeless, including 10 days in Moab where I tried to beat the hell out of them. Usually I have 2 -3 dings to pull out of my rims when I get home and have had several flats. All I ended up with was a rock scuff on the rear.
    I'm 6'4", 215lbs with gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinS View Post
    I've been running the Derby's all spring, tubeless, including 10 days in Moab where I tried to beat the hell out of them. Usually I have 2 -3 dings to pull out of my rims when I get home and have had several flats. All I ended up with was a rock scuff on the rear.
    I'm 6'4", 215lbs with gear.
    Same here...majorly stiff rear end results in a few rim scuffs. They are far more stiff than the Flow's & just as durable per results thus far!


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    Ha! I think I might be slowing down in my old age


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    6200' of DH yesterday on mine.... and some hike-a-bike...
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    Killer stuff!


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    Production Prime Photo/Build thread

    Great pics FM!

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    Thanks guys. Here's the best of the set I think (warning, non-prime content!)
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    Gotta love the alpine wildflowers!


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    Long Time No See - Love the Prime

    I've been on this one since I built it in April. Love it. The Behemoth has retired to XC duty. These were on the Hermosa Trail in Durango last weekend.Production Prime Photo/Build thread-durango-031.jpgProduction Prime Photo/Build thread-durango-034.jpg
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    I have a couple questions that I hope I can get some help with.


    1- I have the 2014 Fox Float FIT CTD fork 140mm. I am wondering if it can be bumped up to 150mm of travel easily. I've read that a few of the earlier models could. I've searched but I guess my search queries aren't good enough in Google to get me the info I need. Can anyone point me to a tutorial if it is possible to bump the travel. I've worked on numerous Rockshox forks and have the knowledge and tools to all my own work with that brand. Hopefully, Fox forks aren't that much different!
    I've yet to ride the fork but was thinking that I'd like to try the little bit of extra travel at some point.

    2- I'd like to know what length Reverb post the guys on the XL frame are running. I'm looking to get the 125mm Reverb as a placeholder until I can get KS Lev 150mm.
    I'd like to know if the 380mm length Reverb will work with my 35ish inch inseam for pedal height. Or if the the 420mm will drop low enough into the frame.
    Is there anyone on an XL frame running a 380mm Reverb with a 35" inseam?
    I'm asking because the Prime does not have a fully useable seat tube. And, sometimes for certain trails I ride I like to drop my post as low as it can go for the longer, steeper and gnarlier descents.
    I also open the quick release on my Honzo sometimes to drop my Lev down for the steeper crazier descents.


    As to my build, it is coming along very very slowly.
    I hit an unexpected financial bump which had me directing money elsewhere. However, I'm slightly back on track and have 85% of the components now.

    Now I need to get the wheels built. I went with the eThirteen LG1+ hubs front and rear. I got an extra freehub body when I picked up the rear 150mm hub.
    I also need to pick up the last bit of drivetrain I need. I'm going with a 1x10 setup since I'm having trouble sourcing the specific type of FD at a price that I'm willing to pay. I'm going with a 42T OneUp cog and currently looking at/for options for a narrow/wide 28T chainring.

    The last time I predicted when my build was going to be completed the rug was pulled out from under me. I'm not trying to tempt fate but hopefully my build will be finished soon. Very soon!

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    Hum, weird, I was in the same boat as you for my FD, just couldn't believe the prices, but also the one I needed was never in stock at the price point for me. Looking on Jenson here's what looks to be the one you need, but not 100% sure, but for the price I'd take the gamble. SRAM X7 3X10 E-Type Front Derailleur OE > Components > Drivetrain > Front Derailleurs | Jenson USA

    As to the post, all I can tell you is that I also have a 35.25" inseam and the measurement from the top of my saddle to the centre of the BB is around 32.5" for "proper" pedaling, which meant roughly 9.5"/241mm of exposed post to the saddle rails and I had no trouble dropping my Thomson 410mm layback post all the way down to the bend before I had gotten a dropper, that's 11"/280mm.

    As to the fork question, no clue, I had the original F34 FIT, but I can say that despite never having worked on a Fox before and hearing how hard they were to work on, I was pleasantly surprised by how easy they actually were to work on, no harder than an RS, well except for the damper. Procedure is very similar to the RS, just drop the lowers, remove the circlip on the left leg, pull the air shaft out and see where the push pin is and if there's another hole lower or higher and you'll have your answer as to adjustable travel. Actually that's not 100% true since you can easily use the snap on travel spacers to reduce travel.

    Hope some of this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RideEverything View Post
    I'm going with a 1x10 setup since I'm having trouble sourcing the specific type of FD at a price that I'm willing to pay. I'm going with a 42T OneUp cog and currently looking at/for options for a narrow/wide 28T chainring.
    !
    My Primes have always been 1x, I ran 30x12-36 on my proto, my current is 32x11-42 (wolftooth nw ring and big cog). The 1x10 set up with the wolftooth stuff works so well, 32x42 is actually a perfect climbing gear, bottoms out right at walking speed. Lighter, quieter and less maintenance than a 2x set up. I think you'll be very happy with the 1x (and I'me guessing you're already used to it from the Honzo?)

    I know you have some steep climbs (I do a lot of pushing on the flank trail when I'm up there)... but a 28 or 30 should be perfect!

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