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    FDs have never given me trouble, actually I find they work well as chain retention devices and having 2 rings to me is much more useful than dropping a few ounces and losing what to some is clutter. Also I run a Trials/SS specific hub, so I only fit 6 or 7 cogs on there, so I go for the bigger cogs an MTB uses more frequently on the trail - made the move about 4 years ago to a dishless rear wheel using an SS/Trials hub and now I won't go back.Since I installed the FD on my Prime I haven't had one dropped chain, even going over the roughest terrain and I can only imagine what it would be like using one of the new clutch type derailleurs along with an FD. Another plus of having the 2 rings for me since I don't use a chain tension is when going down rough stuff at speed, being able to throw it on the bigger ring helps reduce chain slap and noise.

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    I have a Canfield hub that allows me to use a 9-36 cassette. No more front derailleurs for me.

    On the Rune, the 32t ring was good for everything, so with 28t 9-36 i get even more range. With the shadow+ rear derailleur, I have lower tension, just need to get a working 28t upper guide, which seems to be problematic.
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    DMR doesn't work the chainring in the granny, due to chainline. It works with the hbc ring if spacers are used to bring the guide outboard.

    When using a full cassete, the granny gives the best chainline amongst what are the common positions (ok, somewhere between the granny and middle ring of a 3x set-up would be optimal). Guess if I want to use this 42.5mm chainline, I'll need to make my own guide

    EDIT: apparently, 44mm chainline on the granny, at least in the 2012 version of the cranks. See page 18 http://cdn.sram.com/cdn/farfuture/3W...ifications.pdf
    I'll have to measure my chainline when I get it (or at least when I go home for christmas, Rune should provide a good test base for chainline and stuff
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    First black one I've seen online fully built. Looks great!



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    Glad they don't make small frames, it would look so awkward. At 5"11 I wanted to fit a large, they look a lot more proportional.
    Nice bike btw.

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    Yeah, but their Medium is about the size of most small or just a tad bigger. Smart move IMHO spreading the sizes out a bit more and only needing to make 3 sizes, too many stem/bar choices these days to not be able to dial in the fit. This reduces their overhead and end cost to consumers, which I think is a good thing, also don't think Keith believed he could make anything smaller without making too many compromises to make it work.
    Quote Originally Posted by G_g View Post
    Glad they don't make small frames, it would look so awkward. At 5"11 I wanted to fit a large, they look a lot more proportional.
    Nice bike btw.
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    Argg you guys got me second guessing my size choice :O I've gone for a medium and i stand around 5'11" currently riding a Medium Nomad and I had a medium Rune before that. :S the frame is sitting on a dock waiting to be shipped from last i heard....

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    I have a Large Rune and just asked the Banshee dealer around here to change my order from Medium to Large. 35mm stem should fix the geometry

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    Quote Originally Posted by phat-ant View Post
    Argg you guys got me second guessing my size choice :O I've gone for a medium and i stand around 5'11" currently riding a Medium Nomad and I had a medium Rune before that. :S the frame is sitting on a dock waiting to be shipped from last i heard....
    Don't sweat it, I'm 6'0" on a medium with a 70mm stem, very comfortable. Depending on seat post choice though you could out near minimum insertion. I believe that a large would have also been fine, I'd have probably even used the same stem, just been a tad more stretched out.

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    Cheers Optimus, I do prefer a more relaxed kinda of possition, so fingers crossed it will be ok. I have a 420mm reverb to stick in it, so with a bit of luck that should fit ok.

    G_g, getting the frame direct as there is no dealer for my country so its a bit more of a gamble

    fingers crossed huh hehe, will post up the build when it arrives, which I hope wont be too much longer! but I dont think its left the factory yet. Doh.

    Still waiting on an XX1 crank to arrive too, but just going to use that with a top guide and a 10speed 11-36 out back will let you know how that goes

    loving the look of that black Prime, would be nice to see some yellow ones out there too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phat-ant View Post
    Argg you guys got me second guessing my size choice :O I've gone for a medium and i stand around 5'11" currently riding a Medium Nomad and I had a medium Rune before that. :S ....
    Medium Prime definitely fits "larger" than a med. Nomad or v1 Rune, so you should be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    First black one I've seen online fully built. Looks great!


    Oh Dear...I wish I hadn't seen this!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter View Post
    Oh Dear...I wish I hadn't seen this!
    You know what they say, once you go black, you might end up with a raw frame too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phat-ant View Post
    Argg you guys got me second guessing my size choice :O I've gone for a medium and i stand around 5'11" currently riding a Medium Nomad and I had a medium Rune before that. :S the frame is sitting on a dock waiting to be shipped from last i heard....
    5'11" here as well, and I went with a med. w/ 800mm bars & 420mm reverb. Best fitting FS for me to date. Particularly with the reverb...since I have been riding for years with a thomson post ~1" lower than xc-ideal. With the reverb I can have the best of both worlds, and with the slack STA the cockpit grows alot more than a typical straight ST as you raise the saddle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    You know what they saw, once you go black, you might end up with a raw frame too.
    Precisely why God created powder-coat!


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    @jncarpenter and phat-ant, whats your inseam?

    hopefully there will be some more pics from the black one with good cam/light

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    Got my tracking number, whee.

    Banshee branded boxes for X-mas present, i hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkey View Post
    @jncarpenter and phat-ant, whats your inseam?

    hopefully there will be some more pics from the black one with good cam/light
    I wear 30-32" inseam pants, depending on the brand.


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    ok thx.

    im still wondering myself if M was the right choice and not a L.

    Because when i see the pic from the black one above most ppl have longer legs then me (~ 30") and can use a longer seatpost and therefore the reach gets virtually longer.
    if i use the same size i have to get a longer stem to correct this or a larger frame, right?

    but longer stem = less handling.
    larger frame = shorter stem = better handling. BUT lager frame also means a longer seattube -> not so good for dh with my short legs :/?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondraker
    Buenos días,

    Las potencias estarán disponibles próximamente en los puntos de venta Mondraker.

    Atentamente.



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    So, according to Mondraker, the 10mm stems will be available soon. I'll start with a 40mm stem (truvativ whatever) and then see how it rides. It is nice for mondraker to make the stem available aftermarket. Guess I'll need to use a flat or very low-rise bar with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkey View Post
    ok thx.

    im still wondering myself if M was the right choice and not a L.
    but longer stem = less handling.
    larger frame = shorter stem = better handling.
    It's all about the wheelbase.
    The top tube on the prime is long enough, you don't have to size up so you can run a short stem. If you're possibly in between sizes, the smaller frame option will have a shorter wheelbase, lower standover, will corner faster regardless of stem length, and be more managable in the air. If you are under 5'-11"/ 180cm I would definitely go medium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkey View Post
    ok thx.

    im still wondering myself if M was the right choice and not a L.

    Because when i see the pic from the black one above most ppl have longer legs then me (~ 30") and can use a longer seatpost and therefore the reach gets virtually longer.
    if i use the same size i have to get a longer stem to correct this or a larger frame, right?

    but longer stem = less handling.
    larger frame = shorter stem = better handling. BUT lager frame also means a longer seattube -> not so good for dh with my short legs :/?
    I went round and round myself before pulling the trigger. If it helps, I have been riding Large Turners for the last decade...the Prime is the best fit I have had outside of a custom frame. I am glad I rolled the dice and went with the Med.


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    Then guess I am better with the large. My inseam and my arm length, as well as my shoulder width are big for my height. The L rune feels good with a 50 mm stem, but perfect with a 60mm stem. So I guess the large prime will go nicely with a small stem. I used the 385mm KS i950 at max extension and I'm planning on keeping the seatpost

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    My frame is here, anyone got idea what ZS cups i need for headset?

    ZS44/28.6 and ZS 56/40 when i tried to measure, am i correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sakucee View Post
    My frame is here, anyone got idea what ZS cups i need for headset?

    ZS44/28.6 and ZS 56/40 when i tried to measure, am i correct?
    Banshee Prime: All Mountain -> geometry

    44|56 (1.125" zero stack top, 1.5" zero stack bottom)
    should be right if taper

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    Yeah, at the top there is 'measured with traditional headset' threw me off

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