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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmetless View Post
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    Now I want to build one!! I have a Viento and love it. This will add nicely to the stable. Nice machine bud!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmetless View Post
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    That looks awesome. Black ano with orange is killer. Minus that blue hub.
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    Very nice Helmetless.

    Looking at the scenery and the design of the towers I thought you might be from Oz as well, but only in southern hemisphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    That looks awesome. Black ano with orange is killer. Minus that blue hub.
    Yep you're right! Blue matches orange but still not kinda matching that much... eh?

    Maybe orange Chris King hubs next year? (athough I've heard so many voices speaking of the real deal with Chris King spare parts and crappy warranty -there's no real warranty, actually).

    Or should I consider its wiser economic counterparts, the Hope Pro 2 Evo in titanium grey finish, not to make it too shiny, too.

    What you guys can say about it, I am all ears.


    Anyway, that would be next year, hopefully
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozynigma View Post
    Very nice Helmetless.

    Looking at the scenery and the design of the towers I thought you might be from Oz as well, but only in southern hemisphere.
    Ozy, it would be greatly appreciated you could post your Banshee close to the towers you have up there! so we can see more stuff other than my bike That would be fun!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmetless View Post
    Yep you're right! Blue matches orange but still not kinda matching that much... eh?

    Maybe orange Chris King hubs next year? (athough I've heard so many voices speaking of the real deal with Chris King spare parts and crappy warranty -there's no real warranty, actually).

    Or should I consider its wiser economic counterparts, the Hope Pro 2 Evo in titanium grey finish, not to make it too shiny, too.

    What you guys can say about it, I am all ears.


    Anyway, that would be next year, hopefully
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmetless View Post
    Ozy, it would be greatly appreciated you could post your Banshee close to the towers you have up there! so we can see more stuff other than my bike That would be fun!!!
    OK I will try and put a few more photos of mine up.

    So far the only photos I have are here

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    I have a changed a few things on my Banshee over the summer.

    Quick Changes:

    I went with a set of Ergon grips to alleviate some serious wrist fatigue issues. They help quite a bit. A little odd at first. I can't imagine going back now.

    I have seriously brought the bar down. Flipped the stem. Switched out the Easton bars for a slightly wider and more swept Niner Flattop 9. The cockpit needed some serious adjusting. These moves helped.

    I switched out the saddle for a Selle SMP TRK. I really tried to like the Selle Anatomica seat. It just never felt right. Plus, the nose was always getting caught on my shorts. It was really quite pointy. Not good when you are trying to get into a descent position. The SMP TRK has alleviated my saddle issues. oh yeah, I put my Thomson seatpost on too.

    Pedals... As much as I loved the Speedplay Frogs, they had to go. Within 300 miles of use the pedals started to develop a ridiculous amount of play. Speedplay suggested I grease the pedals (should only need to be done every few thousand miles according to the manual...) Then, one of the inner rotation stops snapped off. That really sucked. Great pedals. I loved the float and the feel, but they are seriously high maintenance. I bought a set of Time Roc ATAC S pedals. I am very pleased with the change. Sealed bearings, more than sufficient float, very positive engagement and disengagement.

    Lastly, I dropped the X9 Cranks. The stock 26/39 gearing was no good for the riding I do in and around the Baltimore/DC Area. Well, at least for me it wasn't. I picked up a Hammerschmidt, dropped in the 22t ring and will not be looking back. I have a new Rear Derailleur waiting to be installed (X9 Type 2 Short Cage).

    So, that should be it. The build and the tweaks are done. Awesome Frame. Thanks Banshee!!! Yeah, I need a better work area.
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    The seat ouchhhhhhhhhhh it hurts my eyes. Please remove and put a normal seat on

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    Ha!!! Funny. I think my junk is more important than your eyes.

    Seriously, the most comfortable seat I've ever ridden.

    Cheers!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowfreq13 View Post
    I have a changed a few things on my Banshee over the summer.
    ahhh finally: black frame, black fork; very nice. the seatpost and saddle are totally not my thing but getting them dialed to your personal preference and comfort is vital. what size is the frame and what travel do you have the fork set at?

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    Large frame. Fork is set to 120mm of travel. It's funny that people are down on the saddle and Thomson Seat post. There aren't too many good options for us wider butted Clydesdale. The dimensions on this saddle put my sitbones in just the right place. Oh well, sometimes you just have to resist fashion and focus on function and comfort.

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    Paradox 2012 destined mostly for European lowlands

    Fork: Niner carbon
    Bars: Race Face Turbine
    Bar ends: Cane Creek Ergo Control II
    Stem: Loaded X- lite
    Headset: Top Cane Creek ZS44, Bottom: Cane Creek EC49/30
    Spacers: Straitline Headset
    Crankset: Race Face Turbine 3x10
    Bottom bracket: Race Face bearings X-Type Turbine
    Derailleurs: Shimano Deore XT Dyna Sys (3x10)
    Shift levers: Shimano Deore XT 2012 SL-M780
    Casette: Shimano Deore XT CS 771
    Hubs: Superstar Tesla, 32h
    Brakes: Avid Elixir 9
    Rims: Loaded Precision, AMXC
    Tires: Specialized The Captain Control, 29x2.0
    Spokes: Sapim Race 1.8mm
    Seatpost: Cane Creek Thudbuster ST
    Saddle: Chromag Trailmaster DT
    Grips: Race Face Sniper
    Skewers: DTSwiss QR-Alloy-Thru bolt
    Pedals: Canfield Brothers Crampons Ultimate
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    So, time has come. I ordered my first love: A Banshee Paradox.

    I live in Germany and it was not easy to get the V2. I ordered the Paradox last December but the German ditributor delivered the V1. In the meantime I ordered the "German alternative" a 2soulscycles SlimJim but I think that the Paradox would fit better. In the next time I tried to test both frames and the best will stay and the other on have to go ;-).
    If your are interestet I would post pictures of the build up.

    (Sorry for my poor English skills)

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrisuta View Post
    Paradox 2012 destined mostly for European lowlands
    You have built a nice looking bike but I don't get the Niner carbon fork on this frame. The fork I assume is built primarily by Niner for their carbon frames which have a spec for 80 to 100mm. forks. The Paradox has a fairly low bottom bracket, even with a 120mm. fork and is prone to pedal strikes. You are also steepening the head angle.

    Where exactly are the "European Lowlands"? Are you not riding any technical trails at all?
    The trouble with having an open mind is that people will insist on trying to put things in it.

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    Quick question regarding seat posts for the Paradox.

    Do you think adding a carbon Race Face Next seat post would provide any more comfort than a Turbine seatpost?. I'm used to riding full suspension xc bikes and would like any added comfort to the Paradox. If you don't think I will even notice it I will just stick with the Turbine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nail Every Trail View Post
    Quick question regarding seat posts for the Paradox.

    Do you think adding a carbon Race Face Next seat post would provide any more comfort than a Turbine seatpost?. I'm used to riding full suspension xc bikes and would like any added comfort to the Paradox. If you don't think I will even notice it I will just stick with the Turbine.
    Personally, I don't get the belief that a tube loaded predominantly lengthwise can be expected to provide any noticeable damping, irrespective of the material it is made from. Your tires and the seat itself will mask any flex. If you really feel you need it get a Thudbuster.

    I was riding a really nice 5.5" full suspension bike before I got my Paradox and never rode the full suspension bike again. I believe it made me a better rider by getting me off the saddle more.
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    Ronnie, I'm with you in thinking that the carbon seatpost won't do much, but there are magazine articles and other postings that claim people can notice a difference. I've never ridden a carbon seat post and am coming back to riding a hard tail after 14 years ( mostly Specialized XC Pro 120mm and Stumpy FSR). I think tires, wheels and seat will factor more into comfort than the seat post, but it's always good to get some general feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreisel View Post
    If your are interestet I would post pictures of the build up.

    (Sorry for my poor English skills)
    We will be glad to see your build, man! A Banshee Paradox is always worth watching. Hopefully with a suspension fork
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmetless View Post
    We will be glad to see your build, man! A Banshee Paradox is always worth watching. Hopefully with a suspension fork
    Oh, yes, it will be with a suspension fork. I take all components from the 2souls SlimJim. The for is a 140mm Reba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie View Post
    You have built a nice looking bike but I don't get the Niner carbon fork on this frame. The fork I assume is built primarily by Niner for their carbon frames which have a spec for 80 to 100mm. forks. The Paradox has a fairly low bottom bracket, even with a 120mm. fork and is prone to pedal strikes. You are also steepening the head angle.

    Where exactly are the "European Lowlands"? Are you not riding any technical trails at all?
    The Niner carbon fork works well on this frame. In fact the bike rides better
    than my former Spec Rockhopper 29er with a susp. fork. And no pedal strikes
    noticed.
    Low bottom bracket could be a problem on some rocky trails but not around my place,
    which is Central Poland. I don't compete, so I don't mind the weight (though mine is
    not that heavy - 25.8 lbs). I went for this bike 'coz it's pretty, reliable and
    unique, aware that putting a rigid fork may stigmatize me as a grave sinner.
    However, I may change it one day...
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    Hey guys,

    I've got a new Paradox coming in. I have a new Manitou Tower Pro already, but it is not tapered, just a traditional straight type. Is there a specific headset I need to make them compatible? If it's not optimal I can always sell the fork and get the tapered I guess. It just occurred to me that this might be an issue. Thanks for any feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nail Every Trail View Post
    Hey guys,

    I've got a new Paradox coming in. I have a new Manitou Tower Pro already, but it is not tapered, just a traditional straight type. Is there a specific headset I need to make them compatible? If it's not optimal I can always sell the fork and get the tapered I guess. It just occurred to me that this might be an issue. Thanks for any feedback.
    I would suggest that you fit a headset that will take a tapered fork. Most good headset manufacturers make an adapter crown race that converts a straight 1⅛" to fit into a 1" bottom bracket cup and bearing. When I first got my Paradox V2 I still had my Minute 29 fork and ran it in the frame. I like and fitted a Cane Creek 110 headset and got one of these to put on the fork:



    It costs about $13. When I got my tapered Tower I simply used the standard 1" crown race. I honestly noticed no difference between the forks.

    P.S. You may want to do it this way so that if you get a tapered fork in the future it will fit straight in.
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    Ronnie, thanks for the info. That's exactly the kind of info I needed. I appreciate it.

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    What Ronnie said is correct, but I'd strongly suggest if you can sell the straight steerer fork, then do so and buy a tapered steerer one. Tapered steerer I think adds a lot of stiffness to the front end and improves tracking tremendously. Price Point has the Tower Pro for $395. Ronnie does have actual experience though going from a non tapered fork to the same for tapered (may stand corrected there), so guess he has a better comparison. Also if you're wanting to hang onto this bike for a bit if you're like me it may bug you how it looks kind of weird having the straight steerer in the big tapered HT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nail Every Trail View Post
    Hey guys,

    I've got a new Paradox coming in. I have a new Manitou Tower Pro already, but it is not tapered, just a traditional straight type. Is there a specific headset I need to make them compatible? If it's not optimal I can always sell the fork and get the tapered I guess. It just occurred to me that this might be an issue. Thanks for any feedback.
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    Uggh, I thought it might like a bit odd, but now maybe you've convinced me to just buy the tapered fork. Damn you messing with my wallet!
    Ronnie, did you think it looked weird on the bike?

    Let me know if anybody is looking to buy a brand new in box Tower Pro with 120mm thru axle and I'll sell it for a good price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    What Ronnie said is correct, but I'd strongly suggest if you can sell the straight steerer fork, then do so and buy a tapered steerer one. Tapered steerer I think adds a lot of stiffness to the front end and improves tracking tremendously. Price Point has the Tower Pro for $395. Ronnie does have actual experience though going from a non tapered fork to the same for tapered (may stand corrected there), so guess he has a better comparison. Also if you're wanting to hang onto this bike for a bit if you're like me it may bug you how it looks kind of weird having the straight steerer in the big tapered HT.
    "LyNx", I must say that while there may be measurable (in some kind of test lab. jig) difference between the two forks in the same headset, I could not feel it. I fitted the minute because I had to wait several months to get my black Tower Pro. I really wanted it to be better/different but there was none that I could notice. Keep in mind I'm 215lbs. without kit. I still ride the V1 with the Minute 29 as a backup and while some of the backup components are not as good, I don't feel much difference in the fork/frame.

    In the interests of full disclosure the Minute has a 20mm. hex axle and the Tower has a QR15 hex axle but I again doubt that there is a noticeable difference there.
    The trouble with having an open mind is that people will insist on trying to put things in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nail Every Trail View Post
    Ronnie, did you think it looked weird on the bike?
    That is up to you. You can see from my picture above what it looks like. What looks worse to me is the white fork on the black frame. Looks like a junkyard hood on a car. The integrated look of the tapered fork does look better.

    If you are tight with cash right now, building up a new bike, I'd say ride it until you are more comfortable to buy a new fork. All it costs you is about $13 for the crown race and it rides great.
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    While I don't think it looks all that weird, I guess maybe I would be bugged by it. I also like the new QR system. Mine has the 120mm thru axle.

    Fortunately, at the moment my "bike slush fund" is abundantly filled with cash , so I will just go ahead and order a new fork and sell the old one.

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    Well then that's a no-brainer then As to the 20mm TA compared to the newer QR TA systems, I definitely agree, it's a royal PITA and I also much prefer the newer systems or the Maxle system. Really do like the 15mm TA QR on my F34.

    I did like Ronnie when I got my Prime and bought a reducder crown race to try my 120mm Minute on the Prime, but after riding the Prime for a bit I decided that I liked the BB in the steeper setting, could stand it in the slack setting so going from the 556mm A2C of the F34 140mm to the 520mm A2C of the 120mm Minute would not be a good idea. I still may in the future, just for giggles do it, but I would think it'd be good for smooth trails.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nail Every Trail View Post
    While I don't think it looks all that weird, I guess maybe I would be bugged by it. I also like the new QR system. Mine has the 120mm thru axle.

    Fortunately, at the moment my "bike slush fund" is abundantly filled with cash , so I will just go ahead and order a new fork and sell the old one.
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    So the Paradox V2 frame came in today. Very impressed. Nicely built. Also included a Banshee seat post, which was a nice surprise as I was not expecting it. Wheels should be here shortly.

    What's the biggest size tire you guys have run on the back? I'll probably put Ardents on it. I'll have to order those soon too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nail Every Trail View Post
    What's the biggest size tire you guys have run on the back? I'll probably put Ardents on it. I'll have to order those soon too.
    The biggest tires I've had on the back of my Paradox are the Specialized Purgatory Control 2.3 and Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.25. I think you should try a 2.35 Nobby Nic to see if it fits. I'd like to know.
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    Can someone post a pic of the tracks you're running in, plz? Here where I live, I honestly can't imagine myself riding with a 2.3 on the rear. Pics of mine soon
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    Helmet, it's not about what the trails/tracks look like Buddy, it's the fact that despite the Paradox being a very sweet machine, the ride is harsh as fvck, so having the highest volume tyre you can is something that is very much needed, or at least for me who rides more than just smooth gravel trails or road.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helmetless View Post
    Can someone post a pic of the tracks you're running in, plz? Here where I live, I honestly can't imagine myself riding with a 2.3 on the rear. Pics of mine soon
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    Expected to get the Paradox-frame this weekend. Unfortunately I am going first to ski for a week but in the new next year the bike is build up. I am so excited...

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    2012 Banshee Paradox Expert Black M sized

    Finally got my first 29er...!
    Paid around US$2000 in Velomix Bike Store, Indonesia.
    So far so good, it made my 2011 Giant Reign alone in the barn.
    Stock except CrankBros pedals, Velo chain protector, Polygon bottle cage and of course the CatEye bell...!

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    Head Sets Banshee Munro Taper
    BB Parts Race Face
    Seat Post Banshee Two Bolt
    F. Tire Maxxis Ardent 29 x 2.25
    R.Tire Maxxis Ardent 29 x 2.25
    Rim/F Sun Ringle Inferno 27 29er
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    F Hub Novatech 9mm/15mm/20mm x 110mm
    R Hub Novatech 10mm x 135mm
    spokes Sha Dar 14G
    Chainwheel Race Face Evolve 24/36/Bash 10spd
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    Saddle SDG Galaxy Steel
    Handlebar Answer ProTaper 720 AM
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    Looks nice Gembong, is that the stock Banshee build kit? Unless you're only using it for DJ, I'd seriously consider leveling that saddle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreisel View Post
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    Thanx Kreisel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Looks nice Gembong, is that the stock Banshee build kit? Unless you're only using it for DJ, I'd seriously consider leveling that saddle.
    Yep it is stock. You're absolutely right about the saddle.

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    Congratulate the set up. Would you consider shortening the derailleur cables or you like it as they are?

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    Now, time has come, I got my Paradox!
    So, I have to build it up in the next days. Im so excited...

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrisuta View Post
    Congratulate the set up. Would you consider shortening the derailleur cables or you like it as they are?
    Which derailleur, front or rear? Shimano Shadow's rear der is tidier than SRAM's, IMO.
    Btw Adrisuta, although you live in Poland, your name is sound familiar to Indonesian, sounds like Sanskrit names...no offence intended.

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    Think he's referring to BOTH your rear lines, brake and shifter, they both look exceedingly long.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gembong View Post
    Which derailleur, front or rear? Shimano Shadow's rear der is tidier than SRAM's, IMO.
    Btw Adrisuta, although you live in Poland, your name is sound familiar to Indonesian, sounds like Sanskrit names...no offence intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Think he's referring to BOTH your rear lines, brake and shifter, they both look exceedingly long.
    That's right.

    Gembong, indeed Adrisuta is a sanskrit name. Adri means 'mountain' and 'suta' - son. It's not my legal name, though. I simply adore Indian culture even more than bike riding

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    Is Anybody using an chainguide? Any recommendations?

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    Just ordered one from Jenson's. Ano. Was going to get the raw but that had a 1-2 week delay; plus I knew I'd try and paint it if I got the raw (via Preval). I should not be painting a bike because A) I'm not a good painter, and B) I should be riding it I *was* on the list for a Surface but they went to modular dropouts for the batch due in March. Damn modular dropouts on the Trans Am too. I am getting a Trailmaster LTD and Ranger though.

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    Here it is:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreisel View Post
    Is Anybody using an chainguide? Any recommendations?
    Yes I am using an E13 guide and bashguard on the ISCG tabs. Not sure what model. I am only running one 36 tooth chainring for a 1x9 setup.


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