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  • 01-09-2013
    Nail Every Trail
    Trying to figure out my drivetrain for new Paradox frame build and could use a bit of help.

    I'd like to get a Race Face Turbine crankset, 2x10 with a nice low granny gear. Which model should I get? I'd like to run a bash guard with it too. I think I can just order a separate Race Face guard to cover the bigger of the 2 rings, but I'm not entirely sure.

    I'm going to use an xt or xtr rear derailleur shadow plus and xt or xtr front. What size cage and what FD do you recommend using?

    I've got everything else sorted out. Going to be a cool ride when done.

    Thanks for any assistance, I appreciate it.
  • 01-09-2013
    LyNx
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    Well for me I always have liked the short cage RDs from Shimano, even running a triple crank setup (just need to be a bit more careful with setup and shifting), and for sure going for a 2X setup I'd definitely get the short cage version.

    Can't help you with the RF Turbine crank, but I could point you to a steal of a deal on a 10spd SLX crank. You'll need to have or buy the BB for it though, but they're pretty cheap. Take a peak about that site and you can find loads more of that OEM SLX stuff for pennies ;)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nail Every Trail View Post
    Trying to figure out my drivetrain for new Paradox frame build and could use a bit of help.

    I'd like to get a Race Face Turbine crankset, 2x10 with a nice low granny gear. Which model should I get? I'd like to run a bash guard with it too. I think I can just order a separate Race Face guard to cover the bigger of the 2 rings, but I'm not entirely sure.

    I'm going to use an xt or xtr rear derailleur shadow plus and xt or xtr front. What size cage and what FD do you recommend using?

    I've got everything else sorted out. Going to be a cool ride when done.

    Thanks for any assistance, I appreciate it.

  • 01-09-2013
    qbert2000
    shimano doesn't make a true short cage except in saint. the rest of them are medium cage, they are no where near as short as sram shortcage rear deraillers and i wouldn't run a true sram short cage with a triple set up and even a double is a stretch on a full sus bike

    most shimano stuff is designated gs(medium) and sgs(long) the saint comes is ss(short) and now the zee group does too, but it's hard to find any other shimano mtb rear in ss. in the past before saint the dh guys ran road cassettes and road rear deraillers with short cages if they were shimano guys

    The picture lynx has put up is a medium cage rd, not a short. Medium is what to run with a double up front. Slx is the best value crankset out there. I'd go that over race face. Just my 2cents on it. I think the slx double with bash and bb is about $130 from crc
  • 01-10-2013
    Kreisel
    What type of FD are you using?
    I had a Shimano XT 9-speed direkt mount an there is not enough space between tire and the FD, in my opinion. On my 2soulscycles SlimJim it was ok. Is the Sram FD different. I think about to modify the Shimano and cut of the down pull thing... then it will fit I think.
  • 01-11-2013
    LyNx
    Yeah, that's the fix for those FDs. Sadly the damn manufacturers seem to think it's a great idea to build and introduce a zillion different designs and confuse the living hell out of consumers - there's something like 40 or 50 different FDs out there in terms of design and fit :madman:
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    Originally Posted by Kreisel View Post
    What type of FD are you using?
    I had a Shimano XT 9-speed direkt mount an there is not enough space between tire and the FD, in my opinion. On my 2soulscycles SlimJim it was ok. Is the Sram FD different. I think about to modify the Shimano and cut of the down pull thing... then it will fit I think.

  • 01-11-2013
    Ronnie
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kreisel View Post
    What type of FD are you using?
    I had a Shimano XT 9-speed direkt mount an there is not enough space between tire and the FD, in my opinion. On my 2soulscycles SlimJim it was ok. Is the Sram FD different. I think about to modify the Shimano and cut of the down pull thing... then it will fit I think.

    When I first built up my bike I fitted a XT nine speed. The nine speed is designed for a three ring crankset and therefore has a fairly long cage which got very close to the rear tire. I then fitted a XT 10 speed derailleur which is designed for two rings. I use it with a 9 speed front shifter and it works well. It does take a bit more adjustment though. I would also recommend cutting off the down-pull lever.
  • 01-11-2013
    Helmetless
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kreisel View Post

    Veery nice. The waiting was worthy!!!:thumbsup:

    Please tell us, what build you think to put on this bike?
  • 01-12-2013
    Kreisel
    @LyNx and Ronnie: Many thanks for your answers.
    I have both XT FDs, the 9 speed and also the 10 speed. On my SlimJim I used the 9 speed but I thought about to take the 10 speed, it would fit much better.

    @Helmetless and all:
    For me the build is very easy. I only have to put the parts from the SlimJim to the Paradox:
    http://fstatic3.mtb-news.de/img/phot...IMGP0127.JPG?0

    Frame: Banshee Paradox (what else...)
    Fork: RS Reba RLT TI 140 mm (with option to change to 120mm)
    Headset: Hope
    Stem: Syntace 149 75mm
    Bar: Syntace Vector 31.8 7075 12°
    Seatpost: Syntace Alu P6
    Saddle: Selle Flite Titanium (from 1997...)
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 5
    Shifters: X0 GripShift 3x9
    Grips: Syntace Moto
    Crankset: Shimano XT triple, 22/32 + Truvativ Stylo AM Bashguard
    Cassette: Shimano XT 9 speed 11-34
    RearD: Sram X9
    FrontD: Shimano XT 9 speed or 10 speed (as recommended)
    Chain: Shimano LX
    Hubs: Hope Pro 2 evo
    Rims: Mavic TH719
    Tires: Schwalbe NobbyNic 2,25 (rear), 2.35 (front)
    Pedals: Shimano 545 (not 524)
  • 01-12-2013
    eurospek
    What's wrong with your 2Souls Slim-Jim? That's one frame I'm still lusting after.
  • 01-13-2013
    Kreisel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    What's wrong with your 2Souls Slim-Jim? That's one frame I'm still lusting after.

    Everything is ok with the SlimJim but in the moment I believe that the Paradox fits just a bit more. I will test it in the next time. Here in my region of Germany I ride more AM than EN/FR. Thatīs the reason why I also try the Paradox...
  • 01-13-2013
    eurospek
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kreisel View Post
    Everything is ok with the SlimJim but in the moment I believe that the Paradox fits just a bit more. I will test it in the next time. Here in my region of Germany I ride more AM than EN/FR. Thatīs the reason why I also try the Paradox...

    Very well, looking forward to your review comparison. What size what your SJ? Large?
  • 01-13-2013
    Kreisel
    Itīs an XL.
    With my 188cm I was between large and xlarge.
    And because of my riding style (more or less AM) I thought the xlarge would be perfect, and it nearly is...
  • 01-13-2013
    eurospek
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    Originally Posted by Kreisel View Post
    Itīs an XL.
    With my 188cm I was between large and xlarge.
    And because of my riding style (more or less AM) I thought the xlarge would be perfect, and it nearly is...

    Seems like you're in between again for the Paradox L and XL lol.

    The Paradox will definitely be a smaller bike, looking at the geometry, the L Paradox will be about 25mm shorter in reach and ETT from the XL SJ.
  • 01-13-2013
    Kreisel
    Yes, your right. But I think that the large Paradox would fit perfect.
  • 01-15-2013
    Nail Every Trail
    POLL:

    Cable color for black Paradox? Black,white, or silver?

    Running white Tower pro fork, white saddle, white charger pro rims, xt silver drivetrain and brakes, red Race Turbine handlebars,silver water cage.

    Thank you fashionmeisters !
  • 01-15-2013
    Helmetless
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nail Every Trail View Post
    POLL:

    Cable color for black Paradox? Black,white, or silver?

    Running white Tower pro fork, white saddle, white charger pro rims, xt silver drivetrain and brakes, red Race Turbine handlebars,silver water cage.

    Thank you fashionmeisters !

    Just a humble opinion here... my vote is White!!!

    btw blue does look good matching a black frame. Mine has brand new jagwire ripcords in SID blue color and looks nice :)
  • 01-15-2013
    Kreisel
    I prefer black...
  • 01-16-2013
    boomforeal
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kreisel View Post
    I prefer black...

    word. colored housing is gay
  • 01-16-2013
    eurospek
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by boomforeal View Post
    word. Colored housing is gay

    +1111
  • 01-16-2013
    adrisuta
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by boomforeal View Post
    word. colored housing is gay

    What this one supposed to mean? Is it scientically proven or you wanted to pronounce
    out loud how male you are (got some issues?)
    or you wanted to ridicule those who like colored housing
    but non the less are straight while off the bike?
  • 01-16-2013
    eurospek
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adrisuta View Post
    What this one supposed to mean? Is it scientically proven or you wanted to pronounce
    out loud how male you are (got some issues?)
    or you wanted to ridicule those who like colored housing
    but non the less are straight while off the bike?

    He meant this http://www.euroteknik.com/forum/imag...s/supergay.gif
  • 01-16-2013
    Nail Every Trail
    ha, didn' t mean to create such an uproar with my poll. Seriously, I guess I am out of touch when it comes to bicycle accessorizing. I thought white or silver cables might be a fun change of pace, but I don' t want to jeopardize my heterosexuality. It' s just not worth the risk, especially if my wife found out.
  • 01-16-2013
    qbert2000
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    Originally Posted by Nail Every Trail View Post
    ha, didn' t mean to create such an uproar with my poll. Seriously, I guess I am out of touch when it comes to bicycle accessorizing. I thought white or silver cables might be a fun change of pace, but I don' t want to jeopardize my heterosexuality. It' s just not worth the risk, especially if my wife found out.

    it'd be worse if you rode with no seat:eek:
  • 01-16-2013
    Kreisel
    Lol
  • 01-18-2013
    Helmetless
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by boomforeal View Post
    word. colored housing is gay

    Myth.

    In my personal case must say I am an ocd biker, or fashion biker in a way (if you wanna call me that), but my pants are always behind the skirts!!!! :devil: