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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Check out CRC for some great deals on everything They do really have some killer deals on bars, so give them a look and lots of wide ones, including flat and wide. No matter how much sweep, you'll most likely want at least a 10mm shorter stem, but order the bar first and see if it feels too stretched out, if so then order a shorter stem. BTW, how tall are you? I used to run an 80mm stem and 750mm wide bar on an XL and I'm 6'2" with very long arms and 35.25" inseam.

    Dropper post, I was running a X-Fusion HiLo for about 3-4 months and it never gave any trouble, but sold it to someone who needed it more than I as he's not really very good technically and I sort of needed the cash at the time - regret selling it TBH, will get another as soon as they come back in stock.
    Again, thanks for the tips. I am about 6' 1", 34" inseam. With the current setup on the size L frame I am definitely not feeling too stretched out (and I generally prefer a shorter cockpit).

    To be honest what surprised me the most was how 'normal' the bike feels. I guess I was expecting a massive change in handling from my KM given the much slacker front end, but I immediately felt at home on it. It's a good climbing bike for sure, and descending of course felt much more sure footed. That 140mm fork up front is writing checks the rear end can't cash ;-) Looking forward to breaking it in over the winter.

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    So sad. Sold the Paradox frame today. Couldn't really justify having two, 29" AM hardtails.
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    Yeah, steering feels nice and not a whole lot different than my Monkey on the flats, but point it DH and worlds different. Little FYI, if you run a 120mm fork on the Monkey you get about the same HTA as the Paradox, slightly slacker STA (which works for me) and a higher BB (at least compared to the V1 I had, they raised it a tad on the V2 AFAIK). I did this with my Monkey, but just didn't feel confident leaving it like that as to me it was just over what the frame was initially designed for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Holmes View Post
    Again, thanks for the tips. I am about 6' 1", 34" inseam. With the current setup on the size L frame I am definitely not feeling too stretched out (and I generally prefer a shorter cockpit).

    To be honest what surprised me the most was how 'normal' the bike feels. I guess I was expecting a massive change in handling from my KM given the much slacker front end, but I immediately felt at home on it. It's a good climbing bike for sure, and descending of course felt much more sure footed. That 140mm fork up front is writing checks the rear end can't cash ;-) Looking forward to breaking it in over the winter.
    Sad indeed, can't wait to get my hands on the new V2 sometime next year, really do miss how much fun it was.
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    So sad. Sold the Paradox frame today. Couldn't really justify having two, 29" AM hardtails.
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    Speaking of V2's....

    I've been working 70+ hour weeks lately, haven't even been on a bike in 3 weeks, I've had a horrible cold for 2 weeks.

    I finally got out for a ride yesterday, took the Paradox up on National trail, a very gnarly and nasty bunch of tech goodness. There is a particularly fast and chunky 1.6 mile stretch with lots of tight turns, big rocks, some scary drops, some scarier drops into big rocks, etc. I beat my best time coming through that stretch, a best time that was set on my Prime. I didn't climb the best yesterday, but boy did I shred coming down.

    For those that aren't in the know, I'm riding a 140mm Pike on my V2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Yeah, steering feels nice and not a whole lot different than my Monkey on the flats, but point it DH and worlds different. Little FYI, if you run a 120mm fork on the Monkey you get about the same HTA as the Paradox, slightly slacker STA (which works for me) and a higher BB (at least compared to the V1 I had, they raised it a tad on the V2 AFAIK). I did this with my Monkey, but just didn't feel confident leaving it like that as to me it was just over what the frame was initially designed for.
    Hmmm... well, I thought I was being naughty bumping my Reba from 80mm to 100m on the KM (which I definitely like). But if the 140mm Revelation has taught me anything it's that bigger is better...

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    Well, I picked up Mr. 68's frame as it was local and a fair price. I was originally after a Yelli to compliment my V2 N9 SS, but I sure am glad that this frame became available to me. Got it put together and took her out on a 10 mile shake down ride out in Gallup, NM at the high desert trail system. It's fast, light(ish), stiff and geared, everything I was after.

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    Nice.

    I had considered a Yelli before I picked up my V1 Paradox, I'm on to a V2 Paradox now, never been on a Yelli, for a hardtail monster I don't know how anything could be better than a Paradox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stopbreakindown View Post
    Well, I picked up Mr. 68's frame...


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    After dropping a chain yesterday I chopped 3 links out and finished tweaking my Paradox 1x10 setup with a good cleanup and removing the bash guard. I also shifted the dropper post remote to under the left brake.

    The setup is SLX cranks, Raceface 34 tooth wide narrow chainring (blue), Chris King BB (blue), X0 brakes, rear derailleur and trigger shifters (blue logos), Rockshox Reverb dropper post with remote.


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    Blue bits look nice, especially the Thomson with blue faceplate. Would do the same to my Thomsons, sadly they're all too long now, a throw back from my early long stem/narrow bar XC days
    Quote Originally Posted by ozynigma View Post
    After dropping a chain yesterday I chopped 3 links out and finished tweaking my Paradox 1x10 setup with a good cleanup and removing the bash guard. I also shifted the dropper post remote to under the left brake.

    The setup is SLX cranks, Raceface 34 tooth wide narrow chainring (blue), Chris King BB (blue), X0 brakes, rear derailleur and trigger shifters (blue logos), Rockshox Reverb dropper post with remote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozynigma View Post
    After dropping a chain yesterday I chopped 3 links out and finished tweaking my Paradox 1x10 setup with a good cleanup and removing the bash guard. I also shifted the dropper post remote to under the left brake.

    The setup is SLX cranks, Raceface 34 tooth wide narrow chainring (blue), Chris King BB (blue), X0 brakes, rear derailleur and trigger shifters (blue logos), Rockshox Reverb dropper post with remote.
    Notice any chain retention difference with the narrow/wide (or have you not ridden it yet)? Assuming that's why you ditched the bash? I do like the blue, for some reason all of my bikes have had some sort of white/red/black scheme, dammit! Sweet setup there.

    I think I need to pick up a 30t version of that ring and shorten my chain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by extremedave View Post
    Notice any chain retention difference with the narrow/wide (or have you not ridden it yet)? Assuming that's why you ditched the bash? I do like the blue, for some reason all of my bikes have had some sort of white/red/black scheme, dammit! Sweet setup there.

    I think I need to pick up a 30t version of that ring and shorten my chain.
    Its been an evolution. The original setup was 1x9 with a chain guide and the bash ring. Images are on this forum somewhere or flick through my flickr photo stream.

    I only dropped the chain a couple of times with the chain guide when it would slip between the chain guide and the chain ring. Come to think of it this might have only started after I put a 10 speed chain on.

    I put the wide narrow on about the same time or shortly after converting the rest of the drivetrain to 1x10. Until a couple of days ago I had not dropped a chain with the wide narrow. Basically I was too conservative in leaving the chain a bit long. The RD wasn't fully taking up the slack in the highest gears.

    I was comfortable taking two links out but took three and checked that the RD could just handle the lowest gear. There is hardly any slack in the chain now and I don't expect I will drop a chain again.

    The bash guard came off because its not needed for chain retention and with a 34 ring on a 29'er I am not hitting anything with it riding XC trails.

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    The race face narrow-wide came out shortly after my build otherwise I'd be running it. I've dropped off the inside a few times so hoping for a solution; like you I'm probably a hair too long on the chain. I do like the look of the chain ring without a bash, and with a 30t I should have tons of clearance. The bash is only 40g or so but if I don't need it all the better. Thanks for the info!
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    I will be switching cranks to a X9 w/ an absolute black 30t N/W when they become available. Also like the look of the chainring w/out a bash but want to protect my $70 chainring, so I found a new taco from Blackspire that mounts to the ISCG-05 tabs.

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    Slightly modified, still up-to-date.

    Looking forward to having a Spitfire or Phantom, stealth black! That'd be cool.
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    ...and looking forward to switch to Sram X01 groupset or something close
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    Wanna try hammershmidt?

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    may i introduce to you ... my new mountain toy

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    Looking Good!

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    Picked up a new seatpost.





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    In case any Paradoxers missed it, here is my new build > New Paradox build

    Converted to SS last night, photos & details to follow.

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    Well, I just received my V2 Paradox as an interim for the Phantom, will move into the rental fleet once that gets here (that was the plan all along), but I'll have some fun playing on it until my FS addiction gets fed. Hoping to start building her up this weekend, but not sure, quite busy right now and still have the Prime. Will say, compared to the V1 Paradox all those subtle little changes they made sure have made the frame a whole lot nicer. Tinkering with the idea of having it stripped and PCd before I build her since, well honestly it's not a rush.
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    Any changes to these for 2015? Considering building a HT to split duty with my Rune.
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    I haven't heard of any changes to the Paradox, can't see a single thing that needs changing since the original update from the V1. Only thing that they maybe could do is to make the drop outs like the FS bikes with ability to use different axle standards and have the adjustable geo, but from e-mails with Keith that didn't seem something they were even considering. Other than that only thing I'd not mind seeing is clearance for 29+ tyres in the rear, actually this would make much more sense than the replaceable drop outs.

    Only bit of advice I'd give if you're going to be rinning a setup requiring an FD is to get one of the new XTR side swing FDs that has no part that goes between the ST and tyre, as space is close back there with big rubber like a 2.4" Ardent and an FD.

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrider76 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Other than that only thing I'd not mind seeing is clearance for 29+ tyres in the rear, actually this would make much more sense than the replaceable drop outs.
    Yep - a skosh more room out back for a proper 2.4" tire and mud clearance would be a useful tweak. I'm running a SRAM X7 f. der and a 2.2" tire is about as big as I'd want to go and still have a little clearance for mud. In any case I absolutely love mine, great all-around HT.

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    My v. 2, just picked up on eBay recently for a good price at Bike Wagon. XL with bits from an Airborne Goblin I rode previously. Actually, some of the parts for this build have been on 5 different bikes.

    11-36 1x9 X7 with a stealth just-in-case granny, Deore crank with RF 34 NW, Juicy 5 brakes, Fox OEM 120mm fork, Thomson post and stem with Specialized 30" DH bar (I like the rise). Oh, an older Stans Flow rear wheel and a Specialized/DT Swiss 520 front.

    Now to see how it rides...1"-2" rain expected this weekend so the trails are closed.

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    I'm actually waiting on my fresh XL raw Paradox to get here. Total budget build with all take off parts I had laying around and slightly used stuff. So stoked for a new ride to take over on some of the stuff the Rune seemed a bit much for.
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    After around 5 rides, a couple of those being work commutes with side trips to local trails, this thing rides amazingly!! Best riding hard tail I have been on yet and it is so much fun on a combo of XC and some small jump lines. Weighs 28lbs, 10oz with pedals, which is only one pound heavier than my previous Airborne Goblin. Not bad for a much stiffer and what I hope will be a longer lasting, beefier frame.

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    Hahahahaha Sorry to laugh at you, but that was how I was building up my first Paradox also, a 2nd/cheap bike with old parts I had around, something to play on, but not my main ride That didn't last long however and it soon was adorned with all the best parts I owned and was my main ride and had not had so much fun or cleared so much tech until then on a bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrider76 View Post
    I'm actually waiting on my fresh XL raw Paradox to get here. Total budget build with all take off parts I had laying around and slightly used stuff. So stoked for a new ride to take over on some of the stuff the Rune seemed a bit much for.

    Glide, yes, ain't it fun, hope it lasts you a good long time, definitely must be feeling a lot more capable than the Airborne, geometry makes such a difference to a bike. Waiting on a fork to get mine built back up and have some testing to do on it for a bit more fun, but will have to wait on that until I can find and afford the new parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Hahahahaha Sorry to laugh at you, but that was how I was building up my first Paradox also, a 2nd/cheap bike with old parts I had around, something to play on, but not my main ride That didn't last long however and it soon was adorned with all the best parts I owned and was my main ride and had not had so much fun or cleared so much tech until then on a bike.
    I guess that's the way it goes lol. I haven't owned a hardtail in a very long time. I'm sure the difference between the Rune and Paradox will be huge.
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    My frame came in yesterday just before leaving to go out riding. Waiting on my headset and need wheels yet.
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    Dumb question what is the rear wheel spacing? One spot on the Banshee site says its 135 on the geom tab but the spec tab shows it coming with a 12x142 hub. So I measured it and its 140 apart now which is between both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrider76 View Post
    Dumb question what is the rear wheel spacing? One spot on the Banshee site says its 135 on the geom tab but the spec tab shows it coming with a 12x142 hub. So I measured it and its 140 apart now which is between both.

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    I just want to make sure I get the right rear hub for the frame.
    It doesn't look like anything has changed. My Paradox V2 is a standard 135mm. dropout. Most new wheelsets these days are convertable between various sizes with different end caps. My Sunringlé Chargers came with 142 X 12 axle and end caps for 135mm. Surely you can measure and see that your dropouts are 10mm. vertical.
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    Took the budget build out for its first real ride today

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    Build ended up being pretty decent for being leftovers and parts bought by selling other parts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glide the Clyde View Post
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    Damn Glide, you might have more exposed post on your XL frame than me and I thought I had the tallest seat in the thread.

    I'll try to get some pics of my bike soon, made a few changes over the last year. Went from a 32T with E13 chainguide to a narrow/wide 32T RaceFace ring to a 30/34 Absolute Black Oval chainring. Seatpost is now a shimmed 27.2mm Thomson for a little extra comfort over long days in the saddle (hoping to get a dropper post sometime this year).

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    Inspirational thread you guys have here!! And I have to say it shook up my whole stable..
    Thought I was happy on my full suspension. Thought I was buying a used v1 Paradox to
    To ride while I was building my cracked jet 9s replacement.. Well I was wrong!! Built up the Bandit as
    The jet replacement But cant stay off of the paradox.. Now I have the V 2s on racks in the garage waiting on parts..

    Inspirational for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTscoob View Post
    Damn Glide, you might have more exposed post on your XL frame than me and I thought I had the tallest seat in the thread.
    Camera angle. Looks like I have a 26" front wheel too. Looking at the pic you posted of yours, mine isn't out that much further.
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    Pretty sure LyNx jinxed me, I'm already thinking of pulling my X11 crankset and direct mount off my Rune along with the XO shifters and 10pd stuff.

    I got 2 rides on this bike and am plenty stoked about riding it. I do wish the seat tube was shorter, my 4" travel dropper is as deep as it can go. Maybe I'm just used to riding a 150mm dropper though.
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    dr76, how tall are you?
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    Interesting how different tall dudes use droppers. I'm 6'8" and use a dropper on my FS but I use a lot less travel range with mine, maybe about 2" at the most and I never have it slammed DH style like you have yours in the lowered position.
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    I'm sure a lot depends on how and what you ride.
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    True that. I'm mostly XC/trail but when I do the occasional gravity park or DH line, the post is lower.

    It's just that in your pic, the post looks really low for a guy your size on an XL frame.
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    Its all the way down, its 100mm higher when extended. My leg is almost straight when the pedal is at the bottom of the stroke and the post is all the way up.
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    Have any of you tried the 650b+ option yet?

    I'd be interested to know what you through of the 650+ vs 29er on a variety of terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glide the Clyde View Post
    It's just that in your pic, the post looks really low for a guy your size on an XL frame.
    On the other hand, a 22" ST on an XL frame is pretty tall. I wish I could get a longer top tube but any shreddy hardtails like this that have longer top-tubes have 2" shorter seat-tubes which doesnt work for me, even with a 410mm Thomson (I need at least a 21" ST with a 410mm Thomson at the minimum insertion mark).

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    Hum, were'd you get ahold of a 650B Chronicle? Holding out on us huh Wishing to get ahold of one of the WTB 2.8", but it's looking like that 3" Knard is fitting just fine. Wanting to do this to a Medium frame to try and improve standover just a bit to make it fit a smaller person (essentially make it a Small), also would love to try it for myself.

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    I'd be interested to know what you through of the 650+ vs 29er on a variety of terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTscoob View Post
    On the other hand, a 22" ST on an XL frame is pretty tall. I wish I could get a longer top tube but any shreddy hardtails like this that have longer top-tubes have 2" shorter seat-tubes which doesnt work for me, even with a 410mm Thomson (I need at least a 21" ST with a 410mm Thomson at the minimum insertion mark).
    The seat tube being so long is the only thing I dislike so far. My friend just picked up a Transam in XL hoping to check it out in the next few weeks. It looks to be a good bit shorter ST. The biggest thing I miss now is my 150mm dropper that's on my Rune.
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    Interested to see a pic looking down through the chain stay at the tire clearance. Also, what fork are you using?
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