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    Saw 2 orange ones in Whistler. The bike looks pretty freaking cool. Hope it has 8 inches with a 63.5 - 64.5 HTa options. Thinking 142x12, 150x12 & 157x12 dropout options. Maybe 26 & 27.5 options.

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    Official Darkside Thread

    Looks baller. Local DH/FR trails are on the horizon and this looks like a great fit.
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    I have never wanted a DH frame so badly in my life

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    Official Darkside Thread

    Now that I've had a chance to look through all the photos on Vital on a real screen... Oh man. Sick.
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    That rear end looks sooo short! I need this.

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    Bike looks great. Fitting name for it, Darkside trails are rad, been way too long since I rode over them.

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    Love it.. Great simple lines, ballanced proportions.

    Looks like 22.2 shock, 180mm travel?

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    hell yeah! Would be awesome with a reach of at least 435 mm for us tall guys if that could be in the numbers for this one

    Please

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    Oh that does look quite fun! full length seat tube! Wonder what the weight will be like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Oh that does look quite fun! full length seat tube! Wonder what the weight will be like.
    Yeah, the weight will be interesting. This looks like a bike I'd be very interested in. I don't race DH any longer, and I'm having a hard time justifying owning a full-on DH bike based on the rides I do these days. The Darkside could easily convince me to sell my v10c!

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    A few more shots of it in Orange here: Banshee Tests 650B Downhill & Other Mountain Bikes, Developing 100mm ?Trail? 29er

    Looking great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phat-ant View Post
    A few more shots of it in Orange here: Banshee Tests 650B Downhill & Other Mountain Bikes, Developing 100mm ?Trail? 29er

    Looking great.
    Nice! Can't wait to see the geometry numbers.

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    Zomg

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    To give you an insight into weight, the black one fully built (inlcuding pedals... non of this excluding pedal weight crap) weighs 37.5lbs with DH inner tubes as seen.
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    Nice. Maybe a couple pounds more than my Prime.

    I read the BR piece about pedal-ability vs DH intent. I don't care if it doesn't climb as well as a Prime or Rune, but it would be nice to get up 200-300 feet of 8-10% grade without having to push. That'll probably be unavoidable for the bulk of the riding it would see under me. I could probably handle that with a SRAM pie plate and a 32t ring, maybe even a 34t.

    Really hot bike, Keith. The black one is my desktop at the moment.
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    now...in orange! (photos courtesy of bikerumor.com)

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    Keith: You're a tall guy; don't forget to make an XL for us Xtra Lovely Bansheeriders?!

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    Wow, the orange one looks very nice!

    I'm currently riding a large Prime and a large Legend. The Legend is a little short for me (189/94cm) and I have to ride a 60mm stem to feel comfortable and get the same handlebar reach as on the Prime with 30mm stem. So it would be desirable for me if the Darkside will be longer than the Legend. To be able to ride it uphill I would need a 470mm seat tube. I can think of replacing my Legend with the Darkside with 650b wheels.

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    Checked this out yesterday in person. Droolworthy.

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    More information:
    First look: Banshee Darkside.
    First generation proto… all aspects of the design are however liable to change before production.

    It’s a mini DH / Park / Play bike.

    -180mm travel (currently) using a KS linkage
    -Short chainstays (16.5”) and whip friendly geometry
    -Interchangeable dropouts (so 650B compatible if desired), and 3 geometry positions adjusted independently of linkage kinematics.
    -Pedal neutral feel with minimal chain stretch (minimal pedal kickback) and progressive linkage
    -Option of running shorter shock for less travel and lower slacker geometry

    Will be a 2015 frame (maybe 2014.5) priced aggressively to offer great value for money for a frame with all the technology and features.
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/every...30037910423154

    16.5" chainstays seem pretty short. As a tall rider I have not so good experiences with super short chainstays going dowhill (feels like riding over the rear wheel). Would like to have longer chainstays around 17.4", at least with 650b dropouts.

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    No replacement for the good old Wildcard, or Wildcard no more ?

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    Yet more info:

    Banshee Darkside Prototype - First Ride - Pinkbike

    If the move away from the interchangeable dropouts, I hope they go with a 150mm rear wheel spacing!

    Damn, I'd buy this bike today if it were available!

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    I have to admit, that this bike is too much for my tastes, but I'd like to point out that interchangeable dropouts were one of the reasons why I bought the Rune.

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    Actually I was hoping that they would keep the interchangeable dropouts. That way I could just transfer over my current wheel set (Hadley, Mavic rims) and not need to buy a new 150 mm rear wheel. I suppose it would be nice to be able to use my new Atlas Crank too, but with an 83mm BB that is wishful thinking. Looks like the Canfield the One is still in the running for my next bike.

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    Yeah, I suppose those of us moving parts over from a DH bike want 83mm/150mm and guys taking parts from a trail bike would prefer 73mm & 142 or 135mm.

    I do like the idea of going with non-interchangable dropouts though. While I have not had any problems with the dropouts on my Prime, I'm also a fan of simplicity. Lower cost is nice too!

    Quote Originally Posted by potterymouth View Post
    Actually I was hoping that they would keep the interchangeable dropouts. That way I could just transfer over my current wheel set (Hadley, Mavic rims) and not need to buy a new 150 mm rear wheel. I suppose it would be nice to be able to use my new Atlas Crank too, but with an 83mm BB that is wishful thinking. Looks like the Canfield the One is still in the running for my next bike.

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    Yup, so true. I suppose if it comes in more "affordable" than others it might not be so painful. I do like the fact that it is somewhat peddle able and I really like the longer seat tube. Time will tell.....

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    I nailed it woth my HTa guess. Makes sense thougj based on the other bikes in the Range. Keith, can you post up the rest of the geo #'s here when you decide to release them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Willanholly View Post
    Yeah, I suppose those of us moving parts over from a DH bike want 83mm/150mm and guys taking parts from a trail bike would prefer 73mm & 142 or 135mm.

    I do like the idea of going with non-interchangable dropouts though. While I have not had any problems with the dropouts on my Prime, I'm also a fan of simplicity. Lower cost is nice too!
    Keeping the interchangable drop-outs would make this a non-issue. Although I wonder how the chainline would be with 83mm BB and a 142 rear...

    Also with fixed drop-outs you lose the adjustments right? I did like the geometry adjustments available on the Scythe, but they were hard to keep track of. Maybe fixed is better.
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    Maybe this Decision will be based on the majority of Rider-Demand, but I would keep the interchangable Drop-Outs. Not only for the Geometry-Adjustments (Possibility to run a shorter Shock, like a longtravel Wildcard!), but for the sake of having Choices in Spacing and Wheelsize ...
    Adjustability was and still is a Keyfeature-Trademark of Banshee. Bring down the Cost for sure is a good thing, depending on Riders are willing to go without this Feature.

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    I'd like replaceable dropouts as well. Would love to run it in the 63.5 mode for parks and 64.5 for pretty much everything around here (Oregon).

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    Read on Pinkbike about the color choices and bright TBD yet, I say bring the Wildcard color back.

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    This could fit in nicely with what I currently have.

    Probably don't need a DH rig, but something bigger and able to pedal, and still do multiple Garbo days without killing/****ting myself would be the bees knees. I was liking the TR250, but this is trumping it now

    Stealth Black Darkside few!

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    I want one, don't know what I'll do with it, but I want one.

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    I want this... when will final geo and pricing be set? And most importantly when can I place an order for one????

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    Quote Originally Posted by han_slomo View Post
    I want this... when will final geo and pricing be set? And most importantly when can I place an order for one????
    What he said.

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    Production details aren't going to be set for a little while yet. But to give you some idea, our plans are to have these avaliable in shops by late spring next year. All I can really say so far is that the protos are so much fun, and I don't feel too much needs changed, just a couple of small tweas here and there before commiting to opening forgings to improve strength and stiffness to weight.
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    So rad!
    ENJOI THE RIDE

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    Keith, any news? Can you give some info about frame sizes?

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    Can't say anything yet I'm afraid... info will become avaliable early in the new year for both models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walt06 View Post
    16.5" chainstays seem pretty short. As a tall rider I have not so good experiences with super short chainstays going dowhill (feels like riding over the rear wheel). Would like to have longer chainstays around 17.4", at least with 650b dropouts.
    Hey man, there are a ton of other long travel bikes available to you, that would meet those requirements, but a long travel bike with mad short stays are almost impossible to find, not counting the few I know of(Spec Demo and Scott Gambler).

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    Quote Originally Posted by juanbeegas View Post
    Hey man, there are a ton of other long travel bikes available to you, that would meet those requirements, but a long travel bike with mad short stays are almost impossible to find, not counting the few I know of(Spec Demo and Scott Gambler).
    Yeah longer 27.5 are almost the norm now with all the "enduro"... but a 7" travel NOT designed for racing AND nearly extinct 26 wheels??? This baby is gonna be badass!

    More proto testing photos? We need something!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhpnc View Post
    More proto testing photos? We need something!
    Yeah! How about a new pic or some detail for xmas or something!?

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    Please check our facebook page (better late than never!)
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    Please check our facebook page (better late than never!)
    Looks good, Keith! I'm pleased to see the adjustable dropouts made the cut.
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    Late by 3 hours lol but so HOT! Thanks!

    So is this closer to production version? Color is bangin will there be anything else other than black?

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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    Please check our facebook page (better late than never!)
    sweet.

    thanks Keith!

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    The design isn't 100% finalised yet... just to give you an idea of the direction we are going... more details will follow in time.
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    Hey builttoride..

    What do you prefer on that frame ? The dual crown fork or a single crown ?

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