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    Banshee Spitfire Pics

    I've been looking online for a while and have found loads of pics of some Ripper Runes... Can't seem locate many of the Awesome Spitfire though. Come on, lets see em.. Get your Spitfires out...

    This is mine... Still not managed to get a proper ride on her due to a calf injury... Sunday is looking promising though!!
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    dats purdy... what cranks are those?
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    Race Face - Atlas FR

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    You take the dog with you?

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    was wondering if you can choose the suspention linkage colour options when ordering the frame? ...and the same for the decals? The grey ano u hav is real sweet.
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    Mate I don't think you can, otherwise I would have gone for the Orange... : ) You do get a blue one if you go the Gucci Build.

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    So where are all the other Spitfires...?? Come on people, I wanna see some Photo's of your Banshee Spitfires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge68
    So where are all the other Spitfires...?? Come on people, I wanna see some Photo's of your Banshee Spitfires.
    mine's getting ordered today. with any luck it'll be here later this week.

    I can put all the parts I have for it on my bed and take a picture though?

    nah, that would spoil the surprise

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    Another Spitfire

    I think this picture should belongs to here too, the ever famous WWII fighter plane - Spitfire

    My all time war plane (WWII), and i think the banshee spitfire name is well selected.
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    Drop'N'Zone Spitfire

    Here is an awesome Spitfire from Drop'N'Zone


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    Quote Originally Posted by morebravo
    Here is an awesome Spitfire from Drop'N'Zone
    Looks like I'm headed in the wrong direction with my build (assuming I ever get the frame) with all the Skittles colors going on here. Mine will end up looking like a primer gray Camero sitting in some butt rockers yard waiting for a new tranny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    Looks like I'm headed in the wrong direction with my build (assuming I ever get the frame) with all the Skittles colors going on here. Mine will end up looking like a primer gray Camero sitting in some butt rockers yard waiting for a new tranny.
    a couple cans of rattle spray can take care of that...
    I'm not very fond of the drop'nzone spitfire; it kind of makes me want to barf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    a couple cans of rattle spray can take care of that...
    I'm not very fond of the drop'nzone spitfire; it kind of makes me want to barf.
    Admittedly I don't like the Green but the rest is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    a couple cans of rattle spray can take care of that...
    I'm not very fond of the drop'nzone spitfire; it kind of makes me want to barf.
    I'll put my name into the barf hat as well. The OP's Spitfire is very nice though.

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    Agreed; the O.P.'s spitty looks great.
    Mine is going to be so black and white boring compared to all of the spitty pics I've seen.
    I'm pretty stoked that it won't be so boring to ride though.
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    a simple build..

    * Lyrik Coil
    * EX823\Hope pro II\Maxxis advantage front + minion rear
    * Banshee headset
    * Gravity 777 bar
    * SRAM gears
    * Avid Brakes
    * temporary post and stem...

    total weight is about 15K (33lb) but it feels much lighter when hammering the pedals.
    action pics will follow... i guess a chain-guide will be added soon..
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    Nice!
    I like your riding shoes too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNewOriginal
    * Lyrik Coil
    * EX823\Hope pro II\Maxxis advantage front + minion rear
    * Banshee headset
    * Gravity 777 bar
    * SRAM gears
    * Avid Brakes
    * temporary post and stem
    Did you get the Lyrik for the Spitfire? I have a Lyrik now, but I'm planning to ditch it and get a Revelation Team before my Spitfire arrive. You got me wondering if I should keep it and wait allthough I feel 127mm rear and 160mm front is a weird combination.. The Lyrik coil u-turn is HEAVY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    Looks like I'm headed in the wrong direction with my build (assuming I ever get the frame) with all the Skittles colors going on here. Mine will end up looking like a primer gray Camero sitting in some butt rockers yard waiting for a new tranny.
    same here. I think the only colorful things on mine are going to be the gold bolt on my 20th anniversary XO mech, and the gold bits on my joplin. everything else is black, grey, or silver.

    and a little OT, did you end up getting your frame in a timely manner? or are you waiting 3 weeks like the rest of us schlubs?

    Interpidity, hold onto the lyrik and try it out. worst that happens is you decide you want a revelation. best, you keep the lyrik and save some money

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    I had the Lyrik before, and although i also thought about replacing it, I decided to try it first.

    The revelation is great and no-doubt better\lighter riders will benefit its light-weight and travel.. but for me, the stiffer Lyrik is more confidence inspiring (and IMHO looks better in compliance with the frame's tubes).

    anyway, i think you should try before you buy
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    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    Looks like I'm headed in the wrong direction with my build (assuming I ever get the frame) with all the Skittles colors going on here. Mine will end up looking like a primer gray Camero sitting in some butt rockers yard waiting for a new tranny.
    Is it the Camaro or the butt rocker that's waiting for the tranny?

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    Here's mine!




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    im no weight weener, but any one had one of these on a scale yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punkeyboozter
    im no weight weener, but any one had one of these on a scale yet?
    here you go, 29.5 lbs. This bike rips


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    Quote Originally Posted by climbingbubba
    here you go, 29.5 lbs. This bike rips
    Very respectable for a bike with flats and adjustable seatpost.

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    Mine ways in at around 30lbs but i'm still waiting for the Straitline Flats to arrive...
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    Spitfire 'More Mountain Edition'

    Here's my XL Spitfire Humdinger Crusher More Mountain Edition after a marathon build and right before I got my mail this morning.



    I was going to post this up in the All Mountain Thread until I rode it up in Park City today and realized that it was a bit more than the 'All Mountain' crap people post up in that thread. It's actually a 'More Mountain' style of bike. Yep, you heard it here first. Eat your heart out Mr. 'black diamond bike' MBAction. If you need me to explain this to you then I suggest you just make your way over to the Ibex Thread and put on a smile.

    Spec's: Haven's, Float RLC 150 QR15, RP23, XO shifters/derailleur, X9 front derailleur, XT crankset with 22/36 gearing, e.13 Turbocharger bash, XTR 11-32 cassette, Race Face Atlas low-rise bars, 180 Elixir CR's, Sunline 60mm stem, Gravity Retarder Turbo, Silverado Ti saddle, BS Stinger, gray Shimano shifter housing....

    30lbs on the nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    Low, slack and fast...just the way I like my women.
    Midgets who don't cook or clean and run away with your money before you can blink??? At least you have great taste in bikes

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    SLC, nice to see the bike built up. those XL frames are pretty dang huge... I still can't wait for mine to show up

    nice build too

    btw, is that a high-volume can on your RP23? and is it the stock one? my interest is piqued...

    oh, and did you happen to get a weight on the frameset? I kinda wanna know what the XL's weigh, so I have something to do while I wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sov
    Midgets who don't cook or clean and run away with your money before you can blink??? At least you have great taste in bikes
    That's some funny $hit! lmfao!

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    totally agree it's "More" than an All mounting bike...
    feels to me to be almost to a super light weight "dh bike"

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    Here's my XL Spitfire ....
    Low, slack and fast...just the way I like my women.
    You forgot the most important part on your final analogy there... XL...
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    Hey SLC, can you give us some more info on the bike and yourself - height etc? Interested in measurements of you, BB to top of saddle and ground to HB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Hey SLC, can you give us some more info on the bike and yourself - height etc? Interested in measurements of you, BB to top of saddle and ground to HB.
    Well, I like long walks on the beach and doing Mad Libs with my blind neighbor Bernie on Sundays while sipping Sanka. And as Bortis mentioned, I like my women in sizeway XL as there's just more to love.

    Here's the dealio with the XL Spitfire and myself. I'm 6-4, so the XL was the only option, this was made apparant after the first ride. So let me compare this a bit to the XL Tracer VP I ran last year (but with a Float 36 instead of a 150mm Float 32).
    The XL Spitfire (slack setting) with the exact 60mm Sunline stem I ran on the Tracer felt about a 1/4" shorter in the cockpit than the Tracer did. Which is odd, because on paper the Spitfire should be .2 inches longer. Perhaps it had something to do with the ride height in the front due to the shorter axle to crown fork I'm running. Who knows. Having said that, it was still a better cockpit length fit than 99% of the bikes out there for me as most only run a 24.5" which, in turn means running a longer stem .

    Where the fit got a little wierd was the saddle to bar drop. For my set up we're talking 2 inches-which in my book is more of an aggressive XC race set up than an 'all mountain' or in my case, 'more mountain' . Figure I'm running a traditional cup lower headset (Cane Creek XXcII), 2-10mm headset spacers and 1/2" rise Race Face 31" FR Atlas bars. So far this hasn't been a problem other than just aesthetically and thinking it just looks off. In all actuality, it's made climbing much more easier/faster. But only the mild trails have dried out so far and I haven't taken it on anything steep yet - so that will be the real test.
    My guess about the aggressive drop is that it looks like Banshee's running the exact same headtube height on all 4 sizes. So if you like the front end low, which I normally do, you can get it super low on this bike if desired.

    I've only gotten 2 rides on it and now it's raining again so I'm not going to go into a full review until I get some more miles on it. But there's the nuances as far as fit goes with someone as tall as me.

    I will say this though: suspension set up took less time/effort than on any VPP or DW Link bike I've owned. My impression on the two rides so far is that it climbs just as well as either design, isn't quite as plush as the DW Link Mojo, but infinitely more plush than what Intense is doing with the VPP2. Couple that with the low BB and slack HA and I think this bike is going to be a ripper. So far it's been a breeze to whip that thing around corners.

    Kudo's to Banshee for including a seatpost, collar, spare hanger and complete spare bushing/hardware kit with the frameset. That just made the deal that much sweeter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    The XL Spitfire (slack setting) with the exact 60mm Sunline stem I ran on the Tracer felt about a 1/4" shorter in the cockpit than the Tracer did. Which is odd, because on paper the Spitfire should be .2 inches longer. Perhaps it had something to do with the ride height in the front due to the shorter axle to crown fork I'm running. Who knows. Having said that, it was still a better cockpit length fit than 99% of the bikes out there for me as most only run a 24.5" which, in turn means running a longer stem .
    A Tracer with a 36 should have the same ETT as a Spitfire with a 150mm Float. Changes in A2C affect ETT, unfortunately most manufacturers ignore this fact when listing bike geometry. The slacker HA of the Spitfire will put your bars slightly higher and further back than on the Tracer with the same stem, could be why the Spitfire feels shorter.

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    Thanks SLC, interesting and confirms that I would stick with an XL when I get my Banshee - whether I'm impatient and get a Spitty and 69 it or just wait it out for the Claymore is yet to be decided.

    Question for Keith (because I'm being lazy and I know it's somewhere in the design threads on here and don't feel like searching and reading a whole lot) but how come the Spitty uses the same length HT on all sizes and yet the Rune uses increasingly longer as sizes go up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx

    Question for Keith (because I'm being lazy and I know it's somewhere in the design threads on here and don't feel like searching and reading a whole lot) but how come the Spitty uses the same length HT on all sizes and yet the Rune uses increasingly longer as sizes go up?
    Because this length headtube is strong enough for the type of riding the spitfire is designed for, and gives the customer more option of running the bars low if they want (because of the agressiveness of the bike, a lot of people want a low front end, especially if running a 160mm fork). You can always add some spacers to make the front higher if desired.

    It is just to give the option, you can add spacers to your build, but you can't remove headtube!
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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride
    Because this length headtube is strong enough for the type of riding the spitfire is designed for, and gives the customer more option of running the bars low if they want (because of the agressiveness of the bike, a lot of people want a low front end, especially if running a 160mm fork). You can always add some spacers to make the front higher if desired.

    It is just to give the option, you can add spacers to your build, but you can't remove headtube!
    Like builtoride mentioned, I would rather have a low head tube and work from there than something like you'd find on an XL Giant or Turner for example. I think the Reign's run close to a 7" head tube which is just dumb.
    Having said that, I'm not a fan of running multiple headset spacers either.

    I think the (my) fix should be rather easy by just adding some bars with a bit more rise to them. If I feel it's still too low I can always throw on a stem with some rise (the Sunline's don't have any rise to them) and not effect how well the bike handles.

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    OK, that's a major point there I was wondering about and if it was done because of the HT design and travel, I figured it was to give options to run as tall as the 160mm forks that some are running - you think so logically, it's very refreshing, sometimes it's amost like reading what I would say Myself fall into the category of tall guy, liking my bars a bit lower than my saddle, but there are a lot of taler 29er riders who seem to have issues with short HTs and having to use too many spacers because they like to sit up like an English gentlemen on his Penny Farthing Also why I was considering the frame as a 69er candidate without sacrificing too much fork travel.

    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride
    Because this length headtube is strong enough for the type of riding the spitfire is designed for, and gives the customer more option of running the bars low if they want (because of the agressiveness of the bike, a lot of people want a low front end, especially if running a 160mm fork). You can always add some spacers to make the front higher if desired.

    It is just to give the option, you can add spacers to your build, but you can't remove headtube!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Also why I was considering the frame as a 69er candidate without sacrificing too much fork travel.
    Hmmm....I guess I don't get the appeal of all this wheel size swapping.

    I have a 2010 Fox Float 120 sitting in my place and the axle to crown is exactly the same as the Float 150. Couple that Float 120 with a 29'er wheel on the Spitfire and you're sitting way over the back wheel and you're left with a outgunned front fork and possibly a way slack ST. Try and compensate that with a longer travel 29'er fjork and I would imagine you'd be perched way off the back of the bike depending on what you went with.

    Seems to me so far that the Spitfire was built for maneuverability and agility. Put a wagon wheel on the front and my guess would be that you'd just be throwing all the pluses of how well the bike handles (except maybe in a straight line through a rock garden) right out the window.

    Just my two cents.

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    I'll assume you mean a 2010 Fox Float 120 29er fork and if so then I'm very surprised that it is the same as a 150mm Float 26er, given that the 160 is 545mm I'd guess the 150mm to be 535mm, which is 15mm taller than my 120mm Minute. As I said, people are running 160mm forks using inset headsets and doing just fine. SO, by my calculations with the 120 Minute and 29er wheel I'd be about 12-15mm taller in the ground to bottom of HT and a lot of those riders are using + rise stems, riser bars and the slack setting, so with a zero or neg stem and flat bar my bar height would be the same, HA about a 1/2 degree slacker, BUT using a 41mm offset fork to help and using the steep setting to compensate so still handling should be the same.

    As to why "wagon wheels" as you term them? because I moved to them and cannot ride a bike using a BMX wheel again, it's that simple, they just seem too far away and everything looks/seems weird, kind of like when you get an upgraded glasses perscription or the first time you get glasses, everything just seems out of whack.

    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    Hmmm....I guess I don't get the appeal of all this wheel size swapping.

    I have a 2010 Fox Float 120 sitting in my place and the axle to crown is exactly the same as the Float 150. Couple that Float 120 with a 29'er wheel on the Spitfire and you're sitting way over the back wheel and you're left with a outgunned front fork and possibly a way slack ST. Try and compensate that with a longer travel 29'er fjork and I would imagine you'd be perched way off the back of the bike depending on what you went with.

    Seems to me so far that the Spitfire was built for maneuverability and agility. Put a wagon wheel on the front and my guess would be that you'd just be throwing all the pluses of how well the bike handles (except maybe in a straight line through a rock garden) right out the window.

    Just my two cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    As to why "wagon wheels" as you term them? because I moved to them and cannot ride a bike using a BMX wheel again, it's that simple, they just seem too far away and everything looks/seems weird, kind of like when you get an upgraded glasses perscription or the first time you get glasses, everything just seems out of whack.
    I've been riding and racing several 29ers for the last 2 years, and while most of them were great, I would not consider messing with the spitfire's spot-on geometry which makes it such a different and fun bike to ride.
    69ers are nice for a while,but from my experience, the guys who tried & enjoyed 69ers evantually went with a full 29er for various reasons.

    IMHO - if "BMX" fun is not for you and you want another 29er - get a proper 29er.
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    how does this bike do on climbs since you guys compare it to a mini DH bike? Important since Ive been riding HT for all my life...

    How about when climbing out of the seat?
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    I guess you've not read about this forum too much then or you'd know I own a FS and rigid 29er and am patiently waiting on the Claymore 29er to come out and was thinkiing along the lines of 69ing the Spitty as a stop gap until late 2011/2012 when Keith has said it should arrive. By my calculations what I'm looking to do would not mess with the geometry much, if any.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNewOriginal
    I've been riding and racing several 29ers for the last 2 years, and while most of them were great, I would not consider messing with the spitfire's spot-on geometry which makes it such a different and fun bike to ride.
    69ers are nice for a while,but from my experience, the guys who tried & enjoyed 69ers evantually went with a full 29er for various reasons.

    IMHO - if "BMX" fun is not for you and you want another 29er - get a proper 29er.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    I'll assume you mean a 2010 Fox Float 120 29er fork and if so then I'm very surprised that it is the same as a 150mm Float 26er.
    Side by side in real world tests they are spot on, not e-speculating here. That means I have both in my possession and held them up next to each other to come to this conclusion.

    I just came off a 29'er and the frame is up for sale in the classifieds if you're interested. I've owned a total of 4 now: 2 Niners, a Sultan and a Vassago and I fully understand the nuances of the wagon wheel. I also understand the nuances of having balanced suspension and how that effects the handling of a bike. I see guys on every forum posting up all these 29'er/650b conversion theories (yesterday the Ibis forum had three seperate Threads going about 650b conversions) and none of them make much sense. Actually they make zero sense. Different story if you're talking about a specific frame built to accomodate a larger front wheel and smaller rear.

    Anyway, it really doesn't matter it's your bike so have at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    I've owned a total of 4 now: 2 Niners, a Sultan and a Vassago and I fully understand the nuances of the wagon wheel.
    You can't fully understand the nuances of the 29" wheel until you've owned a Lenz.

    All the bikes you named above handle like crap IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    You can't fully understand the nuances of the 29" wheel until you've owned a Lenz.

    All the bikes you named above handle like crap IMO.
    Well there's that too. I sit corrected.

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    All I asked was if it was a 29er fork, since all you stated was you have a Fox Float 120 and they're available in both platforms, I did not ASSume anything.

    As to e-speculating, never said you were doing that, just you didn't specify exactly what the forks were, and I don't ASSume anything these days.

    As usual you obviously are one of those people that if something doesn't make sense to you or goes against what you think it's stupid right heaven forbid someone have a differing opinion than you and be willing to colour "outside the box" and try something new/different - it's not like that leads to anything like development right

    I for one prefer, as you like to call them, wagon wheels, WAY MORE than those BMX kiddy wheels, they just suit me and my style of riding much better. If I have to make do for a while until Keith finishes the Claymore, then in the meantime I will experiment, maybe with a Spitty or Rune, but more than likely not and will wait and continue to ride my wagon wheels and smile.

    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    Side by side in real world tests they are spot on, not e-speculating here. That means I have both in my possession and held them up next to each other to come to this conclusion.

    I just came off a 29'er and the frame is up for sale in the classifieds if you're interested. I've owned a total of 4 now: 2 Niners, a Sultan and a Vassago and I fully understand the nuances of the wagon wheel. I also understand the nuances of having balanced suspension and how that effects the handling of a bike. I see guys on every forum posting up all these 29'er/650b conversion theories (yesterday the Ibis forum had three seperate Threads going about 650b conversions) and none of them make much sense. Actually they make zero sense. Different story if you're talking about a specific frame built to accomodate a larger front wheel and smaller rear.

    Anyway, it really doesn't matter it's your bike so have at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    As usual you obviously are one of those people that if something doesn't make sense to you or goes against what you think it's stupid right heaven forbid someone have a differing opinion than you and be willing to colour "outside the box" and try something new/different - it's not like that leads to anything like development right .
    Well you can take your post count into the 20K's debating this to death, it still doesn't change my opinion that swapping wheel sizes is...yes, a really dumb idea. If you go back through every single manufacturer forum and see who's posting up similar ideas, it's people who don't know any better. Make a frame that's 69'er specific and have at it. But don't try and fool people who know better into thinking a spade's not a spade.

    There's coloring outside the box to fix something that needs to be fixed or improved upon and then there's coloring outside the box that just ends up ruining a great picture. I think you may be wasting crayons on the latter of the two.

    Move on. Nothing to see here.

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    now now guys, lets argue in the 69er thread.

    I wanna see some pictures of some sick spittys in here, or people doing sick stunts on their sick spittys. I've still got 1-2 weeks before mine gets here, so I needa keep occupied.

    50 posts, and I only see 5 different bikes in here...

    and SLC, you didn't mention why your spitty has the HV can on the shock. did it come from banshee like that?

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