I think I´m the first to have the official and final Banshee Rune v2. Nothing but to say that this is the really first bike I see it´s almost perfect!!! Since the geometries (absolutely awesome) until the suspension system... probably the best I´ve ever try in my life ( my last bike was a Ibis mojo hd and it was a good bike too but... this Rune is outstanding)
Well.. before the photo session it´s important to point out some data to get a better idea about this kind of bike...
Frame weight --> Size L ( 3.6 kilos With shock) ( 7.9 lbs)
The main points of this bike are
Head Angle (With lyrik 170mm rc2 dh coil) --> 65º
Seat Angle --> 73,5º
Bottom Bracket Heigh --> 345mm ( So less than the geo chart even with the lyrik)
Wheelbase --> 1185mm
I measured center-top of the HT to center-top of the ST. This should work out to 635mm claimed as effective.
The swingarm does not seem damaged. It is most likely Pacific Cycles being sloppy on the final alignment. I guess I cant cold set it to correct size, but you know, I bought this frame because I wanted warranty and cold setting without being allowed to sounds like voiding it
Not likely, altho that was my first suspicion. The rear triangle measures 140mm in the widest place as well. Such stance would not allow to run 150mm hub ( chain would rub the frame in the highest gear ).
Can anyone (Keith?) tell me why the build kits for the Rune come along with a 60 mm stem? was the frame in some way designed around/with this stem length in mind? I know a lot of you ride shorter stems on their Runes, and it keeps me wondeRing why Banshee did not choose shorter stems for their build kits. Cheers!
I'd be guessing because it is a pretty average sized stem for most of the Banshees - people seem to run 50 to 70 range. When buying a bike the stem is probably the most commonly swapped out item (next to saddle) according to personal preferance and local terrain - everyone is different and you can't please everyone, may as well try to hit the middle ground...
it is a matter of preference but there seems to be alot of divergence towards the 730-740mm range in the AM and Enduro categories and these folks typically run 50 to 60mm stems. I advise people to start wide and take 20mm off at a time until you find your sweet spot...since you can put back on what youve taken off.
I have struck a deal with my distributor. Since I am not eager to wait 6-10 weeks for a replacement frame/swingarm, we concluded that I can mount the rear wheel and see if there is a misalignment.
There was none visible, the frame is dead straight.
Thus we decided that I can use the frame, and if there is even a sliver of doubt about integrity of the bike, I'll get a warranty replacement ASAP.
So, with that in mind, my bike starts to take shape of this:
The fork is at 180mm. I still wait for a few details.
- Still need to bleed the brakes
- Shorten the steerer
- Cut the bars somewhat ( currently it is 915mm SSC Yardstick )
- New seat
- Need shock bushings
- Chainring will be replaced from the 39/26 they are now to:
great to see you sorted the bike. btw it looks anything but small
how many spacers are you running under your stem and what is the seatpost length above the seattube (tot of seatpost to seatpost clamp)?
frenchcr: The cassette is 12-30 Tiagra unit. I will replace the current rings because 35/21 that is my preferred gearing. 39/26 is way too high for me for a bike of this sort
georgeslo: thanks. The seatpost is about 8 inches above the collar. But I honestly cannot tell how much exactly. The seat is yet not perfectly positioned. I have 37mm of spacers below the stem. But that is going to change after a first few rides.
Ordered a frame finally, so excited to ride it the wait is going to be painful! Here's my build plan:
Rune v2 frame large ano black
Fox float ctd
X-fusion Slant RL2 DLA (still dying to find real info on this fork, talas might be a back up)
Havoc or Haven carbon bars
Havoc stem
XT brakes
XX1 drivetrain
Stans Flow EX 650b wheelset (can get them cheap with their 3.30 hubs, gotta save money somewhere)
MRP AMG
Kronolog post (a gamble I know, but I like the fixed cable)
Isn't the vengeance building really high? Which brings me to a question since I have yet to decide which fork I will run: Are there any noticeable differences between the Rock Shox Lyrik and teh Vengeance? I.e. should I prefer the Lyrik over the Vengeance or the aother way around?
with a ZS lower cup the extra height can be negated. Also the Vengeance Air has an internal travel adjust which will also lessen the A2C.
Between the two forks I feel there is no comparison. X Fusion is leagues ahead of Rock Shocks in terms of damping. The compression adjustments have a huge range, and two clicks goes very far. I was never very happy with the Lyrik. Terrible brake dive and compressions adjustments felt numb.
I'm ok with the vengeance axle to crown on my bike, running 170mm version.
I'm 172cm tall, on a medium frame, 0 spacers under the stem.
50mm stem on 740mm bars with 20mm rise.
BB height and head angle is fine so far on slack and neutral setting for different types of riding.
Also good for 650b clearance on arch and crown.
If you like -really- low front ends then maybe choose other forks, or run 10mm or flat as possible bars with the vengeance.
It's something like 10mm higher than most forks (?) - make sure you run a zero stack lower cup and could make the difference.
Vengeance forks are good for a solid build, damping adjustments and small bump is great, very stiff fork and suits the frame with DBair shock.
I haven't tried Lyrik or Fox 36s, but compared to Fox 40s they are very confidence inspiring.
X-Fusion stuff can get very confusing and there is NO mention on their web site about the fact that a true 650B Slant (yes, another model) will not be available until mid year release. Nice huh? Or the fact they will have a short travel 120/130mm Slant version, or the fact it's listed as 170mm travel in one spot with an A/C of 545.
That being said they advise (key word advise) that their 140mm Velvet fork needs a spacer to work with 650B. Guess what, it doesn't. They say the Velvet 140 DLA isn't compatible with 650B but guess what, it works. I'm not gonna advise you that the new Slant (non 650B version) will work with 650B wheels but I'm gonna guess that they will fit easily at the arch and probably be really close to the bottom of the crown at full bottom out, and well, X-Fusion would like to avoid any potential law suits by advising against using it with 650B wheels. Fork isn't even available yet so no way to know. Also, the offset could be optimized for 26" wheels. True 650B fork gets it's own offset just like 29'er forks do. All this may not matter to you as it looks as though there is no compression adjustment besides air pressure which would be to bad IMO. Seems like LOTS of people are waiting for this fork to finally materialize.
Hmm, sounds like I might be pushing another pound up the mountain this season then with the vengeance. No external compression adjustments is enough for me to count the slant out. My last fork was a boxxer with avy cartridge...
Nothing against X-Fusion, but I was after the Slant too. Should have been released in January, now it´s going to be mid Year or later, if the Fork will ever come ...
As for 650B: Seems like the Slant has to use a Spacer to reduce Travel down to 150 mm. 160 mm full Travel is only with 26ers. But again, that was the Feature almost a Year ago. Nobody knows when this Fork will be available, plus nobody knows the final Features of Damping or Travel-Adjust, so you might look elsewhere ...
I should have mentioned that the 26" version of the Slant "should be available" any day now. It's the 650B version that will be at least mid year release and I assume cast with different lowers.
Ah ok! My Info was the Slant being compatible for both Wheelsizes, with Spacer for the 650B reducing the Travel to 150 mm. Good Chance I´m wrong here ...
Yeah, I believe that was the original info from X-Fusion and also what they tell you to do with the Velvet...even though the spacer is not needed. Now we find out it's gonna be 2 different Slant forks. It's my hunch that the 26" version of the Slant will still fit some (maybe not the tallest?) 650B tires just like some Fox 26" forks do. No way to know yet and I don't know the offset either which I think is important. When I went from my converted 650B Prophet with a std. 26" Fox fork to the Jamis with the 650B Loop fork which had 6mm more offset I couldn't believe how much better and less twitchy the Jamis was even though they both have the same HA. Much easier to ride and make it go where I wanted.
only slight disappointment was that the graphics are actually a dark green not black which makes the yellow a bit of a strewth fair dinkum cobber aussie green and gold which being a kiwi is highly offensive to me!
@williethewaiter
Lovely looking frame mate! Gotta wait another month or so for mine to arrive so seeing this just makes it harder!
One thing though, bit naughty of Banshee to send out the stickers in that sort of green when all of their promo picks look jet black, as does the other yellow one on here.
Wonder if Keith can shed any light on the change?
Thats in neutral, add 3mm for slack, take 3mm off for steep.
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