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    Rune V2

    Quote Originally Posted by zupaphil View Post
    Wow...7,6lbs (3,44kg) without shock are quit a lot....the official weight on the website is 6,5lbs (2,95kg)
    you know the weight of the shock dummy? Maybe thats the reason...
    ist schon arg schwer.....hätte auch weniger erwartet...hoffe nur, dass es sich gut fährt und auch die Gr. "L" passt. Sonst muss ich in 2013 noch mal ein Bike aufbauen....vielleicht ein PIVOT Mach 5.7 Carbon!
    Aber vielleicht stimmt die Waage nicht.

    Ansonsten muss ich mir doch noch eine BOS Gabel holen, die wiegt ca. 400g weniger als die MZ55.

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    Oh ja! Meine 170er bos deville wiegt nur 2.030 gramm... und performancetechnisch ist sie auch ganz weit vorne. von daher macht man damit nix falsch. wenn man nun statt dem CCDB Air "nur" den Fox Float CTD nimmt hat man auch schonwieder über 300gramm gespart...

    But thats an english site so we have to write english now :-P

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    This is the spec I am hoping to build - In reality wont be done till the new year:

    Frame Banshee Rune V2 Medium (yellow hopefully)
    Rear Shock CCDB Air
    Fox Float 160
    Headset: Hope pick and mix!
    Bottom Bracket: Not decided yet
    F.tyre: Maxis Minion 26 x 2.5 - Super Tacky 42a UST
    R.tyre: Maxis Minion 26 x 2.5 - Super Tacky 42a UST
    Wheelset: Mavic Crossmax SX 2013
    Crankset: X0 - 2X10 26/39
    Chain: SRAM PC1091R
    Cassette: SRAM PG-1070 12-36
    Derailleur/F SRAM X0
    Derailleur/R SRAM X9 2X10
    Shift Lever/L SRAM X0 2spd
    Shift Lever/R SRAM X0 10spd
    Saddle: Not decided yet
    Pedals: Not decided yet
    Handlebar: Spank Spike 777 EVO (15mm rise)
    Stem: Straitline SSC – 50mm
    Grips: Lizard Skins Northshore
    Brake/F: Formula The One
    Brake/R : Formula The One
    Rotor/F 203mm
    Rotor/R 180 as I have it, but maybe 203mm
    Seatpost: Thompson

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    bikeman_2 und zupaphil:

    Es ist eben so das Banshee noch nie wirklich leichte Rahmen gebaut hat. Ich kann aber sagen dass sie sich erheblich leichtfüssiger fahren lassen als die Waage vermuten lässt. Wobei die Rahmengewichte wohl noch nicht final geklärt sind, dafür schwirren noch zu viele halbgare Zahlen durch das Netz. Ich hoffe Ihr werdet trotzdem glücklich mit Euren Böcken.
    Die BOS Deville habe ich auch auf dem Schirm. Für Erfahrungsberichte wäre ich sehr dankbar -> PM.

    Viele Grüße aus Köln
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    My V2 came in yesterday. One word that describes the new Rune, BURLY with a capital B. This is a hucker's AM bike. If you think the frame is too heavy, the Spitfire seems like the way to go without sacrificing that much performance.

    I love the industrial look of the frame in person, but I feel like the V2 is so much more bike than the V1- and I'm stuck pondering if the Spitfire may be a better fit for the type riding I typically do.

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    This thread is killing me! I was told I was third in line to have my frame shipped out...guess not. C'mon trident, take my money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by knumbskull View Post
    This thread is killing me! I was told I was third in line to have my frame shipped out...guess not. C'mon trident, take my money!
    I think most of these frames are in Europe.....So you may be 3rd in line in NA.

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    Another one in Spain!

    Size M, 3.35 kg (7.37 lbs) with 142x12 axle and shock bolts (w/o shock)

    Build have to wait, because I ordered a Tune Bubi Headset but it is ZS55, not ZS56 as the Rune so I have to buy another one.

    I'll update as soon as it is builded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peri View Post
    Another one in Spain!

    Size M, 3.35 kg (7.37 lbs) with 142x12 axle and shock bolts (w/o shock)

    Build have to wait, because I ordered a Tune Bubi Headset but it is ZS55, not ZS56 as the Rune so I have to buy another one.

    I'll update as soon as it is builded.
    That is interesting that you could get the 142-12, my bike shop called trident and were told they were not available yet and I would have to order them later. Hopefully at a discount since they were not available when I first ordered.

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    Banshee gave me the option to have the frame directly shipped to me for like $140. I opted to wait for it to get sorted at Trident. I'm guessing a few of these folks had the frames shipped straight to them- I'm guessing it wouldn't make sense to send it from Asia to N. America, and back across the world to Europe. I'm also in Northern California, which isn't that far from BC.

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    Keith, a question please.
    On the black anodized frame, are the decal protected in some way? Since on the raw are clear-coated and on the blue a powder-coated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    I think most of these frames are in Europe.....So you may be 3rd in line in NA.
    I'm in Oregon and I got mine a few days ago from Trident. But to be fair my name was already on the frame before it was even built and left Asia.

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    YEah I have been on the list forever. No big deal since I don't have all the parts yet anyways. But seeing all the pics of the frame popping up in north America isn't helping my anticipation! Yeah, yeah

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    I also received mine last Friday, just waiting on parts.

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    my bike is ready! pics when i get to 10 ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by drakche View Post
    Keith, a question please.
    On the black anodized frame, are the decal protected in some way? Since on the raw are clear-coated and on the blue a powder-coated.
    The decals are baked on to the ano surface, they do not have anything over them.
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    Smile Short term review.

    Hey all,

    I've been riding the V2 for about a month now so I figured I'd post a review. A quick preamble about me first just so you know where I'm coming from.

    Me

    I'm 36, been riding mountain bikes in anger since I was 15, my favourite kind of riding has always been downhill but I'm loving all day rides on long technical, natural trails these days. I've owned everything from 10" travel, 40+lb downhill rigs to BMX bikes and even dabbled in fully rigid weight weenie xc bikes. I've had a love/hate thing going on with the Banshee Rune for the past few years, I love it because of how versatile it is ( I rode mine on everything from the Fort William WC track to local pump tracks and the Mountain of Hell ) and I hated it because of frame wear and those damn bushings.

    In the past year or so I've ridden a Solid Mission 9, 2Stage Elite 9, Giant Glory, Giant Reign, Cube Fritz, Trek Remedy, Orange Alpine 160 and all versions of the Rune( Just to give you an idea of what I'm used to riding although I'll be comparing the V2 to the previous versions of the Rune in this review ).

    First Impressions

    For some reason, I expected that the Rune V2 would be much like the V1.5 but with bearings, that seems pretty dumb in hindsight.

    My first impressions of the V2 was that it felt longer and pushed more of the rider's weight over the front wheel than the v1. It didn't feel like it had such a slack head angle and it had lost a bit of the slack downhill bike feel that I liked about the 1.5, I found that I was having a bit of trouble holding a manual over sections that I could nail on the 1.5.

    The upside was that it felt better through fast berms and loamy corners, the bike digs in and grips brilliantly. The biggest surprise came when I started going uphill, I expected that there would be an improvement over the previous versions of the Rune but the V2 is in another league altogether.

    I can clean technical rocky sections on the V2 where I'd run out of steam or get knocked off line on any other bike. Sitting down and grinding up smooth fire roads doesn't cause any noticeable pedal kickback or bobbing on a 26t granny ring and the power transfer from legs to wheels feels smooth and direct.

    Short term review

    Over the next few rides, I started to adjust to the new geometry, manualling and getting the front end up became just as easy and controllable as the 1.5. The same goes for jumping too, it's got a nice balanced and natural feel in the air but then so did the old versions.

    I took it down a trail that I always use to tweak and dial in suspension, it's got a mile long rock garden with plenty of square edge rocks and a few tricky sections where line choice is critical. Also, there are only a couple of places where you can get pedal strokes in, and it's only slightly downhill so you can't rely on gravity alone to get you through it, you have to keep off the brakes and pump whenever you can.

    This is where the penny dropped for me, the new Rune suddenly came alive. The harder you push, the better the bike feels and the faster it goes. The suspension becomes very active and the slack head angle becomes apparent, the way the rear wheel tracks over technical terrain is impressive, it reminds me of how good downhill bikes track over rough terrain when they're properly set up. It's not a numb or disconnected feeling either, there's plenty of feedback to let you know what's going on, preloading and pumping the suspension works exactly as it should and it never feels like your wallowing around in the travel.

    As a side note, I loaded up Strava and recorded a few runs down the trail. Turns out I'd beaten all my previous times and was now 9th fastest overall, 1st place is Steve Peat. That was in the wet on a new bike, buzzing!

    In my opinion, the V2 outperforms not only the previous versions of the Rune but any other all-mountain bike that I've ridden. I've really tried to be as critical as possible and find faults with this frame, I want to give a balanced review and I understand that being in the "honeymoon" period can bias my opinions but so far I can't find any issues with the V2.

    I've ridden it on as many different types of terrain as I can right now in order to see where it's going to let me down but I get more impressed with it every time I ride it, it's not put a foot wrong yet.

    If I had one main criticism it would be that the V2 is a pretty serious frame, by this I mean that if you take steady rides then it's not going to feel that much different to any other all mountain bike. Some riders might even say it was a bit boring. The V2 really shines when you ride it hard on technical terrain and that's what separates it from other 6" travel bikes that I've ridden, I haven't felt as though it was out of it's depth or that it was holding me back in any way. Sometimes, pedalling sat down on steep uphill sections with tight switchbacks can make the front end feel light but you can adjust for that. Also, the linkages hold on to mud and dirt but a mudguard will easily prevent that.

    Something that I've noticed, and I'd be interested to see whether any other owners think this or whether I'm talking out of my arse, is that the V2 almost feels like two different bikes. Put the seat down, thrash it downhill in the attack position and it feels planted and plush with really active suspension but pedal uphill, sat down with the seat up it feels light with a controlled pedal platform - that leads me onto something else, I don't even bother with the CTD lever anymore, I set it in "Trail" and I haven't needed to use C or D.

    If I was going to give any advice to anyone buying the frame it would be to get it with the CC DBAir, the Fox CTD is decent but there's no need for the whole CTD thing with this frame. Get a DBAir, spend time getting it set up properly and you'll be golden.

    Summary

    So far, I'm really happy with the V2 Rune, I think that it's the ideal enduro and mini DH frame for the UK. I'm excited to get it over to the Alps and I reckon that this is the perfect bike for The Mountain of Hell.

    Sometime last year I said this about the Rune V1 "Feels like I found the perfect girlfriend - beautiful, intelligent, loads of fun but when you get down to business, she turns out to be a man. "

    So far, with the V2, no ***** in sight!






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    Nice writeup

    Rune is more bike than I need but I'm gonna assume allot of what you say will relate to the Spitfire as well which I'm interested in. I really like the KS Link suspension when I demoed the Prime.
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    Danshee great review, all this great comments on the V2 are making it harder for me to wait two more month to ride. I noticed on the pics that you are using the flip chips up, did you try the other positions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALULO View Post
    Danshee great review, all this great comments on the V2 are making it harder for me to wait two more month to ride. I noticed on the pics that you are using the flip chips up, did you try the other positions?
    Cheers.

    Yeah, I've tried the flip chips in all positions and I'm still playing around with them at the moment, I'm enjoying messing around and seeing how they affect the handling on trails that I know well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danshee View Post
    Cheers.

    Yeah, I've tried the flip chips in all positions and I'm still playing around with them at the moment, I'm enjoying messing around and seeing how they affect the handling on trails that I know well.
    Hey Danshee might I ask what kind of sag you are running on the Fox? Im going to be doing an initial set up tonight and want a good baseline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    Hey Danshee might I ask what kind of sag you are running on the Fox? Im going to be doing an initial set up tonight and want a good baseline.
    Hey Darkslide, I don't actually know.

    I used the Fox iRD iPhone app to set up the shock and it feels pretty good so I haven't accurately measured the sag. Eyeballing, it looks to be about 30% but I'll take a proper measurement tomorrow morning before I ride and let you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danshee View Post
    Hey Darkslide, I don't actually know.

    I used the Fox iRD iPhone app to set up the shock and it feels pretty good so I haven't accurately measured the sag. Eyeballing, it looks to be about 30% but I'll take a proper measurement tomorrow morning before I ride and let you know.
    Do they make this for android??

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    All done!

    Spent this morning building her up. This is one mean and purposeful looking rig. Cant wait to ride it. Haven't weighed it yet but I'm guessing around 32 lbs.
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    Looks great man, I love how functional the new Rune looks.

    The Fox iRD app is available on android too, according to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danshee View Post
    Looks great man, I love how functional the new Rune looks.

    The Fox iRD app is available on android too, according to this.
    Thanks. Yeah, I'm really liking the look of this thing.

    A quick ride around my apartment complex and yeah it does feel longer and more forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    A quick ride around my apartment complex
    Eat your heart out Darkslide, ripped some Cold Creek/Thrillium today. Still have some tweeks and upgrades to make, but all in all this is a much better bike than I am a rider!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coiler-d View Post
    Eat your heart out Darkslide, ripped some Cold Creek/Thrillium today. Still have some tweeks and upgrades to make, but all in all this is a much better bike than I am a rider!
    How are the conditions at CC? I want to take this thing out tomorrow but I am torn between Sandy Ridge and Cold Creek. The weather is supposed to be crap tomorrow. BTW do you ride with any of the CCMTB guys?

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    Wow, that was quick Kevin. Looks RAD! How does it fit compared to your V1, feel much longer when cruising around on it or not much different? Doesn't looks that much bigger to me than a large V1.

    Oh, BTW ran into your CC bro, Michael C. at Syncline today. Trail conditions were good out east today!

    Enjoy and let me know when's a good time to check out for sizing sake if that is still cool?

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    Edit: Also, what setting are the chips in with them at the top, the slackest and lowest setting or steepest and tallest?
    Last edited by jgusta; 12-01-2012 at 08:34 PM.
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    Great review Danshee! So do you feel much difference in handling and feel in the different chip settings? I am inclined to run mine in the lowest/slackest setting for the lowest BB, as I have been running my SB66 with fork dropped to 130mm for the lower bike feel and to extend the reach to weight the front end more due to slack STA of <71* with fork extended. With fork lowered and BB to 13.3", the bike feels pretty good hugging the trails, just wish I could run it like that in 160 fork setting.,

    Also, I haven't heard any comments of stiffness of the V2 compared to the other Runes. Any significant difference when slaying the turns on the V2, or about the same as V1 (when the pivots are solid of course)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coiler-d View Post
    Eat your heart out Darkslide, ripped some Cold Creek/Thrillium today. Still have some tweeks and upgrades to make, but all in all this is a much better bike than I am a rider!
    c-d, you available manana (Sunday) in the afternoon for a quick peek of your rig?

    I sent you a couple of PM's this past week to no reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    Wow, that was quick Kevin. Looks RAD! How does it fit compared to your V1, feel much longer when cruising around on it or not much different? Doesn't looks that much bigger to me than a large V1.

    Oh, BTW ran into your CC bro, Michael C. at Syncline today. Trail conditions were good out east today!

    Enjoy and let me know when's a good time to check out for sizing sake if that is still cool?

    Jon

    Edit: Also, what setting are the chips in with them at the top, the slackest and lowest setting or steepest and tallest?
    It is definitely longer in the reach department. But not in a bad way. When standing the geo seems to put you into the attack position without any effort. To be honest I am going to bet you will want a medium.

    As for tomorrow I might be in your neck of the woods running errands if I don't end up out riding. Ill text you tomorrow.

    The chips are in the slackest position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    How are the conditions at CC? I want to take this thing out tomorrow but I am torn between Sandy Ridge and Cold Creek. The weather is supposed to be crap tomorrow. BTW do you ride with any of the CCMTB guys?
    Cold Creek was great and Thrillium was mostly great with a couple mucky spots. Yeah, CCMTB are my homies, I ran into you at one of the work parties last year but, I was working on a different project so we didn't chat much. I had a V1 Spitfire, in a similar color combo to your Rune and we crossed paths a couple times other places as well.

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    So are any of you guys who bought the Large and have it already exactly 6ft? Just wondering how it feels for someone 6ft. My large V1 felt great and so does my Large Devinci Wilson but all of this talk about a long reach is making me nervous, especially since I am going from a 680mm bar to a 750mm bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coiler-d View Post
    Cold Creek was great and Thrillium was mostly great with a couple mucky spots. Yeah, CCMTB are my homies, I ran into you at one of the work parties last year but, I was working on a different project so we didn't chat much. I had a V1 Spitfire, in a similar color combo to your Rune and we crossed paths a couple times other places as well.
    I remember you. I think I ran into you at Sandy as well. We need to hook up and go ride sometime. PM me if interested. I have been off the bike for a few months. I need to clear out the cob webs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    So are any of you guys who bought the Large and have it already exactly 6ft? Just wondering how it feels for someone 6ft. My large V1 felt great and so does my Large Devinci Wilson but all of this talk about a long reach is making me nervous, especially since I am going from a 680mm bar to a 750mm bar.
    Im 6' nothing with a 34 inseam. It feels fine to me with a 50mm stem and 780 bars. It does feel different though. Ill have to wait until I can ride it in anger to really comment further.

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    Threw her on the scale.

    31.4 lbs. Quite respectable considering I don't have a wimpy build. Single ply tires ran tubeless helps though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    Threw her on the scale.

    31.4 lbs. Quite respectable considering I don't have a wimpy build. Single ply tires ran tubeless helps though.
    Have you posted up your build already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    Have you posted up your build already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    Thank you.

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    I'm still undecided about the flip chips, I've always considered adjustable geometry to be a bit of a gimmick and I expected that I'd just leave them in the neutral position and never touch them but I've been having fun with trying the different settings because it's easy to change them.

    I'm not 100% sure that the handling differences between each setting are that noticeable. I mean, I do notice changes but I'm not sure how much of that is just placebo.

    I suppose a good test would be have someone change them over and cover them up with tape or something then have you ride the same trail over and over with different settings to see if you can tell which setting they are in but does anyone really care that much? The bike rides awesome in any setting.

    At the moment, I'm riding with them in the slackest position and I absolutely love how it handles downhill, I haven't had any problems climbing either.

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    Very nice build, the red and the raw fit perfect together....

    Looks like a single chainring in front, but you have a front derailleur installed.
    What sizes do you ride?

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    @Darkslide18 - My sag is 27%

    @jgusta - The V2 rear end is much stiffer than the V1, I'm running 142mm x 12 drop outs now though.

    Just got back from sessioning some easy going but fun trails with a few mates. Had a ball and felt really quick, fired up Strava and placed 4th fastest on a section with fast and tight berms - MTB Stig is Peaty and Mr Rat is Josh Bryceland

    This bike is rapid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danshee View Post
    @Darkslide18 - My sag is 27%

    @jgusta - The V2 rear end is much stiffer than the V1, I'm running 142mm x 12 drop outs now though.

    Just got back from sessioning some easy going but fun trails with a few mates. Had a ball and felt really quick, fired up Strava and placed 4th fastest on a section with fast and tight berms - MTB Stig is Peaty and Mr Rat is Josh Bryceland

    This bike is rapid!
    Heading out for its maiden voyage. I think a little PNW flow trail is in order.

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    danshee, impressive score! what size of chainring are you running?

    what is popular size on V1, 1.5? Im trying to decide the size for chainring for 1x10 setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomasis View Post
    danshee, impressive score! what size of chainring are you running?

    what is popular size on V1, 1.5? Im trying to decide the size for chainring for 1x10 setup.
    I'm currently running 26/36.

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    I ponder whether this bike could perform well enough to make my TR250 obsolete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    Yup, 650B and 26" dropouts are different. You choose what dropouts you want when you first order the frame, and other options will be avalibale seperately for additional charges if desired.
    What are the 'additional options'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by highrustler View Post
    What are the 'additional options'?
    From what I know, three 26" options: 135x10, 142x12 and 150x12.

    Keith means that you can get any one of them (pending availability I guess) included with the frame and you can buy additional ones for extra (collect them all, like happy meal toys)

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