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    Hey guys, I'm considering a new Rune as my first bike next Spring. I don't have a whole lot of knowledge about components or bike building yet, so I'm trying to figure out if a decent Rune build could be done with a budget of $4000? Also, anyone have any idea what the pricing on the complete bikes will be? Thanks

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    ++1 on this. The FD situation right now is absolutely cluster fvcked. As FM said, when we were getting our Prime's and deciding on which FD we needed it was an absolute nightmare with the unbelievable amount of FDs options and "standards".

    What I can tell you is this, on my Prime I run the SRAM XO Low DM S3 meant to fit a 39/26 ring combo and it works fine with my 24/38 9spd double with bash on a triple crank setup, shifts are smooth and fast, actually better than I remember with 9spd XT FDs of the older generations.With my setup the chain is almost on the bottom of the cage in the 16t cog in the 24t ring, but doesn't touch. I have run a 15t and had no issues either and expect you could go as small as maybe a 13t without rub, maybe even an 11t. So if you dropped 2 teeth to a 22 you might not be able to go as low, maybe to say 16t, but that's still plenty low when running in the granny ring, if you need more shift to the bigger ring.

    BTW Bash ring is an old 44t big ring with teeth snipped and filed off and I run an SS/Trials Pro2 hub with the first 6 cogs on an XTR 32-11 cassette, so 32, 28, 24, 21, 18, 16.

    BTW, curious how come such small rings, do you plan on doing like me and running a 32t max cog? Cause if you plan to run a newer cassette with a 36t cog I hope you can really spin, cause unless you regularly climb 25% grades that's what you'll be doing on 26" and even 650B wheels.


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    Planning on running a 11-34 cassette and just went with the 22/34 as that is what i had before. I do like to climb up the trails I ride down though vice the fireroads. I also really do not use the 22t, just there as a last resort.

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    If it's only fire road climbing that you'll be doing, then I highly suggest you consider going for a 24/36 combo, think you'll get much more use out of both of those rings compared to the 22/34. I think you'll get a very useable low gear of 18.4 gear inches, with 24-34(46 RPMs to do 2.5mph, which for me is about fall over speed while climbing unless stalled on a feature/obstacle) and a high of 85.1 gear inches with 36-11.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    Planning on running a 11-34 cassette and just went with the 22/34 as that is what i had before. I do like to climb up the trails I ride down though vice the fireroads. I also really do not use the 22t, just there as a last resort.
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    Well said LyNx. I´m running 2 x 9 for some time now, with 11-34 Cassette rear and 22/36 Rings in front and it works great overall, with good usage of both Rings. I´m now thinking about switching to 2 x 10, with 11-36 cassette and 24/36 Rings in front a.) to avoid Pedalkickback in the granny and b.) only half of my climbings are Fireroads ...

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    Well - the gearing is a very individual thing, to be honest. I plan to use 35/21 front and 12-30 rear. I was running a 12-38 cassette for a while, and while to top gears were fine, bottom were just too much. And I miss the precise gear tuning from my road bike.

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    I would run 24/36 if I ran a full 9spd cassette, or had machined the back of this to allow me to run 7 cogs, but since my smallest cog is only a 16t, I need the 38t ring for speed on the road, flat trails and connectors. 38-16 gives me 68.9 gear inches and I need to spin 98 RPMs to do 20mph, 122 RPMs to do 25mph, so anything lower and I'd need to do my best hamster on meth impression when getting to and from trails - did run 36t at first when I built the Prime because I didn't have an FD, so it let me have an easier gear instead of having to stop or toe tap to drop to the granny manually.

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    Well said LyNx. I´m running 2 x 9 for some time now, with 11-34 Cassette rear and 22/36 Rings in front and it works great overall, with good usage of both Rings. I´m now thinking about switching to 2 x 10, with 11-36 cassette and 24/36 Rings in front a.) to avoid Pedalkickback in the granny and b.) only half of my climbings are Fireroads ...
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    Just plugging in to this thread, is the frame 650b compatible or does it require different drop outs? If different, when will they be available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by highrustler View Post
    Just plugging in to this thread, is the frame 650b compatible or does it require different drop outs? If different, when will they be available?
    I'm counting they come with the frame?!
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    Some very nice close up shots of the welding and the frame here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptd View Post
    I'm counting they come with the frame?!
    You specify which dropouts you want when you order the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.PEDRO View Post
    Hello Keith,

    I have a Shimano FD-M675E2 on my Rune V2. There is no problem.
    Thanks, this is one of the derailleurs that we orders quite some time ago to check. Does it have clearance through full range of frame travel.

    The problem with the older shimano design (that is gradually being replaced by them) is not cage clearance, but the black section attacked to the cgae that has the adjuster screws on it... that part is too long on old SLX FD's so that t hits the vertical strut of the rear triangle is the frame moves through the travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uzurpator View Post
    You specify which dropouts you want when you order the frame.
    Yup, 650B and 26" dropouts are different. You choose what dropouts you want when you first order the frame, and other options will be avalibale seperately for additional charges if desired.
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    A question for you guys. I'm planning on getting my own Rune in the next year, so I wanted to ask, when you ordered the frame with what is it shipped? Do you get the flip-chips, do you get all of the dropouts or just the one you selected? What kind of rear axle does it use (maxle, syntace, shimano)?

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    You get one dropout option of your choice with the frame, which includes flip chips, and Banshee axle if applicable. You have to specify which dropouts you want when you order the frame.
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    Thanks.

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    I ordered both 26" and 650b dropouts. I think it was $25 extra for the spare.

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    The dropouts cost a fair bit more than $25 to buy after market normally, maybe your dealer offered you a special discount as you bought the extra set with the frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    The dropouts cost a fair bit more than $25 to buy after market normally, maybe your dealer offered you a special discount as you bought the extra set with the frame.
    As far as I saw, the derr. hanger is separate from the dropouts?
    Is it a standard derr. hanger or a custom banshee hanger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drakche View Post
    As far as I saw, the derr. hanger is separate from the dropouts?
    Is it a standard derr. hanger or a custom banshee hanger?
    Looks Banshee specific to fit the dropout. Stout looking little thing though.
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    the 135 dropout anger is a standrad hanger, the 142 and 150mm dropouts use the same robust banshee hangers used on scythe and legend, and should be readily avaliable from your local dealer if you do somehow manage to bend one.
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    My frame is out for delivery on the UPS truck. The UPS guy is going to be greeted with a **** eating grin. Drive faster dude!!

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    Its here!

    Showed up this morning. Cant wait to build it up over the weekend. Plenty stoked!

    Ill be posting up the build in a few days.

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    Just got mine built, so stoked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    Showed up this morning. Cant wait to build it up over the weekend. Plenty stoked!

    Ill be posting up the build in a few days.

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    That looks sweet... Are the stickers under the clear coat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    The dropouts cost a fair bit more than $25 to buy after market normally, maybe your dealer offered you a special discount as you bought the extra set with the frame.
    I think I was wrong about the price I paid. I was so happy about the total I didn't write down the individual prices. Subtracting the original quote from the final one, I get $65 for the dropout.

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    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by juanbeegas View Post
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    Yes

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    First impression of the frame (Sans Build):

    This thing is built far burlier than the V1. And it is a far better looking bike than the V1. Glad I went with the Raw as well. Its going to go good with the red blingage that is going on it. Looking at the short chain stays this thing screams manuals.

    Seriously cant wait to ride this thing.

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    what size of chainring are you running on banshee?

    im considering 32t on shimano saint cranks and wide cassette as possible like 36t-12t

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    Here it is!
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    Schweet and congrats! You willing to let a local dude hop on it for sizing as I assume this is a medium? A guy I know locally as well just got his large V2 yesterday and plans to build it this weekend that I hope to check before getting mine too.

    Looks good and be good to hear how it rides compares to the Spitfire.

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    Yep medium, shouldn't be a problem letting you check it out.

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    A little before and the start of after from my bike shop on my Rune's.

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    Including mine, I have now seen the CCDB air mounted three different ways on the Rune, Kieth if your around, does it matter at all how it is mounted?
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    Hi team - need some help please.

    Ordering an XL - am 6'4 and around 108kgs.. planning on going the 650b route.

    my dilemma is with what fork to choose. Fox only do a 34 in 650 specific – and a quick search around the web tells me I really want to go down the 36 path.

    So a further search quickly tells me that 36’s will fit a 650 wheel – but am unsure if it’ll take ‘bulky’ tyres (currently on 2.4 mountain queens).

    That’s a question for a different forum so my main question is the 36 Van 180 is an option (not sure if you can shim it) or would it make the front end horrible with an already slack head angle? would it be total overkill? (don't really feel like i'm made to fly.. still nursing a broken collarbone..)

    Bit of a shame as it sounds like the xfusion vengeance would be perfect but not an option.....

    Any help would be appreciated I just want to order the thing!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by williethewaiter View Post
    Hi team - need some help please.

    Ordering an XL - am 6'4 and around 108kgs.. planning on going the 650b route.

    my dilemma is with what fork to choose. Fox only do a 34 in 650 specific – and a quick search around the web tells me I really want to go down the 36 path.

    So a further search quickly tells me that 36’s will fit a 650 wheel – but am unsure if it’ll take ‘bulky’ tyres (currently on 2.4 mountain queens).

    That’s a question for a different forum so my main question is the 36 Van 180 is an option (not sure if you can shim it) or would it make the front end horrible with an already slack head angle? would it be total overkill? (don't really feel like i'm made to fly.. still nursing a broken collarbone..)

    Bit of a shame as it sounds like the xfusion vengeance would be perfect but not an option.....

    Any help would be appreciated I just want to order the thing!!
    Why is the Xfusion Vengeance not an option? according to Xfusion and their site they are 650b compatible.

    •Travel: 170mm
    •WT. LBS: (APR) 5.5(170mm)
    •WT. Grams: 2494 (170mm)
    •Spring: Coil
    •Steerer: 1 1/8, Tapered
    •Adjustments:Rebound, High & Low Speed Compression
    •Stanchion: 36mm, Gold Slick Ano, Aluminum
    •Casting: Magnesium
    •Wheel: 26", 27.5" (650B)
    •Axle: X-20 tool-less axle
    •Colors: Black, White
    •Axle to Crown: 565mm @ 170mm
    •Max Rotor Size: 203mm

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    the doctor told me i can ride 10 minutes a week so i had the perfect excuse to put my bike together
    i am almost there, i found some menor issues i will try to solve tomorrow ... i will need help tough
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    Frame Banshee Rune V2 medium raw
    Rear Shock Fox Float CTD (for now)
    Fork Fox Talas 36 180
    Headset Banshee Taper
    BB Parts SRAM GXP CERAMIC
    F. Tire Maxxis Minion DHF 26 x 2.35 Doble Wall
    R.Tire Maxxis High Roller 26 x 2.35 Doble Wall
    Rim Industry Nine All Mountain
    Front Hub Industry Nine Enduro Blue
    Rear Hub Industry Nine Enduro Blue
    Spokes Industry Nine Black and Blue Spokes
    Crankset Truvativ Noir Carbon 22/32/44 but the big one is removed
    Bashguard Chromag Blue
    Chain Guide MRP 2X
    Chain* SRAM 1090
    Freewheel SRAM PG-1090 11-36 (XX)
    Derailleur/F SRAM X0
    Derailleur/R SRAM X9
    Shift Lever/L SRAM XX 2spd
    Shift Lever/R SRAM X9 10spd
    Saddle Chromag Trail Master
    Pedals Dark Arachnid
    Handlebar Chromag Fubars OSX 780
    Stem Chromag Ranger 40mm
    Grips ODI OURI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    that is interesting, Banshee always does a upper shock mount "cage" so to say that partially wraps around the down tube. this is 6 points to dissapate the stress. curious as to why this approach, certainly for a bike like the Rune which will be punnished in the field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    Why is the Xfusion Vengeance not an option? according to Xfusion and their site they are 650b compatible.

    •Travel: 170mm
    •WT. LBS: (APR) 5.5(170mm)
    •WT. Grams: 2494 (170mm)
    •Spring: Coil
    •Steerer: 1 1/8, Tapered
    •Adjustments:Rebound, High & Low Speed Compression
    •Stanchion: 36mm, Gold Slick Ano, Aluminum
    •Casting: Magnesium
    •Wheel: 26", 27.5" (650B)
    •Axle: X-20 tool-less axle
    •Colors: Black, White
    •Axle to Crown: 565mm @ 170mm
    •Max Rotor Size: 203mm
    Yeh sorry didn't make that clear - fox is currently the only option in the rune build kits - am buying it complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by williethewaiter View Post
    Hi team - need some help please.

    Ordering an XL - am 6'4 and around 108kgs.. planning on going the 650b route.

    my dilemma is with what fork to choose. Fox only do a 34 in 650 specific – and a quick search around the web tells me I really want to go down the 36 path.

    So a further search quickly tells me that 36’s will fit a 650 wheel – but am unsure if it’ll take ‘bulky’ tyres (currently on 2.4 mountain queens).

    That’s a question for a different forum so my main question is the 36 Van 180 is an option (not sure if you can shim it) or would it make the front end horrible with an already slack head angle? would it be total overkill? (don't really feel like i'm made to fly.. still nursing a broken collarbone..)

    Bit of a shame as it sounds like the xfusion vengeance would be perfect but not an option.....

    Any help would be appreciated I just want to order the thing!!

    You can fit 650b wheels in a normal Fox 36!
    And the BOS Deville 160mm or 170mm are able to fit 650B

    I have the BOS Deville 170mm and it works just fine! Much better than any Fox or RS!!!
    Just waiting for my ordered Rune V2

    unfortunatly I should not posts images or links cause i didn´t post 10 times...
    Otherwise I could show you that the Fox 36 and the bos deville works with 650b and Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2,35

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    Quote Originally Posted by zupaphil View Post
    You can fit 650b wheels in a normal Fox 36!
    And the BOS Deville 160mm or 170mm are able to fit 650B

    I have the BOS Deville 170mm and it works just fine! Much better than any Fox or RS!!!
    Just waiting for my ordered Rune V2

    unfortunatly I should not posts images or links cause i didn´t post 10 times...
    Otherwise I could show you that the Fox 36 and the bos deville works with 650b and Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2,35
    Cool thanks for the info would prob look to run some hans on some flow ex.

    Guess I'm mainly interested in the thoughts on a 180 fork in the rune cause I'm leaning towards coil but also thinking 180 won't make the handling that flash..

    So that leaves air... Float or talas? Any owners of runes that use a talas? Reckon you need one on the rune?

    Plenty of people bag the talas and vie never tried one but I use the travel adjust on my e150 all the time. Either way anything gonna be good over that fork!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    Including mine, I have now seen the CCDB air mounted three differetn ways on the Rune, Kieth if your around, does it matter at all how it is mounted?


    This is how the reservoir should be mounted for clearance, best performance and ease of adjustibility. On smaller frame sizes the reservoir of the DBair may hit the downtube at bottom out if it is mounted below the shock at the rear triangle end.
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    Looks like an awesome bike guys. Definitely makes my short list of possible next frames.

    Combines my favourite features from the Intense SS2 (slack HA), Spec Enduro (Steep seattube & short chainstays) and SX Trail (rigid) and adds in adjustability!

    Is building one up around a coil CCDB/Bos Stoy and 180mm forks overkill?
    When will the Scythe v2 be available?

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    Got mine today. Had to order a headset so I wont be able to build it til next week. Did weigh it though... 7.6 lbs no shock or headset.. its a medium. My large v1.5 was 7.1
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    Quote Originally Posted by helidave View Post
    Got mine today. Had to order a headset so I wont be able to build it til next week. Did weigh it though... 7.6 lbs no shock or headset.. its a medium. My large v1.5 was 7.1
    I know how you feel, mine arrived last Friday but we had issues figuring out the FD and when we did figure it out we had to order one from across the Country and it will not be here until next week.

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    Once I do get it in though the build should be this.

    Frame Banshee Rune V2 Large raw
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    Fork Marzocchi 55 RC3 Evo Ti
    Headset Red Cane Creak 110
    F. Tire Schwalble Hans Dampf Vertstar 26 x 2.35
    R.Tire Maxxis Minion DHF Super tacky 1.5 ply 26 x 2.35
    Rims Stans Flow
    Front Hope Evo 2 Black
    Rear Hope Evo 2 Black
    Crankset Gold RaceFace Atlas 22/32/Bashguard
    Chain C-guide
    Chain SRAM PC991 cross step
    Freewheel Red SRAM PG-1090 11-34
    Derailleur/F SRAM X9 3x10
    Derailleur/R SRAM X0 2x9
    Shift Lever/L SRAM x9 2spd
    Shift Lever/R SRAM X5 9spd
    Saddle Deep Red Chromag Trail Master LTD
    Pedals Red Straitline SC platforms
    Handlebar Black Easton Havoc Carbon
    Stem Straitline C Clamp 35mm (Still not sure what colour to grab, either red or maybe black since I have a lot of red)
    Grips ODI Rogue
    Brake/F Juicy 7 with red Straitline levers
    Brake/R Juicy 7 with red Straitline levers
    Rotor/F 203mm
    Rotor/R 180mm
    Seatpost Gravity Dropper
    QR Black Banshee one that came with the frame


    Will be interested in seeing what this weighs when it is built up. The frame weighs a little more and the Fork is about 3/4 pound more then the Manitou Nixon elite I had and the shock probably weighs only about 20 grams more then the old Manitou ISX 6 it replaced. My old Rune was running around 34-35 pounds. I was hoping to build this up around 33 but i doubt that will happen. i should find out next Thursdsay for sure.

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    Build List

    I hope in next 2 Week`s:
    Frame Banshee Rune V2 Large raw
    Rear Shock CCDB Air or FOX (2 Shock: one for CC; one for DH)
    Fork Marzocchi 55 RC3 Evo Ti (2010 Violett, 1,1/8)
    Headset ACROS AZ56 / AZ 44
    WTB Stryker + Bronson (V&R) or EX1750 + Onza Ibex FR or Deemaxx + HighRoller 2
    Shimano HONE 2x9 Speed 22/36(TA Specialites in silver)/Bashguard Truative
    Chain C-guide V2 or Stinger
    Chain Shimano XT
    Freewheel Shimano XT 11-34
    Derailleur/F SRAM X0 2x10 (Typ: 22-36)
    Derailleur/R Shimano Saint
    Shift Lever/L Shimano XTR 3x9
    Shift Lever/R Shimano XTR
    Saddle Fi'zi:k Tundra 2
    PedalsNC-17 SUD Pin III S-Pro
    Handlebar Raceface AM (Violett)
    Stem Syntace Megaforce 2 (30mm)
    Grips ERGON
    Brake/F Saint 810 (203mm)
    Brake/R Saint 810 (203mm)
    Seatpost KS 950 R
    QR: Tune Wüger

    The weight is to heavy for modern AllMountain Bike, 3,5kg (look at Liteville oder Speci Carbon; that is modern) with Shock, that`s OK! Now it is on trip to Germany and I build it for spring 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helidave View Post
    Got mine today. Had to order a headset so I wont be able to build it til next week. Did weigh it though... 7.6 lbs no shock or headset.. its a medium. My large v1.5 was 7.1
    Wow...7,6lbs (3,44kg) without shock are quit a lot....the official weight on the website is 6,5lbs (2,95kg)
    you know the weight of the shock dummy? Maybe thats the reason...

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