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    Hey guys, I'm considering a new Rune as my first bike next Spring. I don't have a whole lot of knowledge about components or bike building yet, so I'm trying to figure out if a decent Rune build could be done with a budget of $4000? Also, anyone have any idea what the pricing on the complete bikes will be? Thanks

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    ++1 on this. The FD situation right now is absolutely cluster fvcked. As FM said, when we were getting our Prime's and deciding on which FD we needed it was an absolute nightmare with the unbelievable amount of FDs options and "standards".

    What I can tell you is this, on my Prime I run the SRAM XO Low DM S3 meant to fit a 39/26 ring combo and it works fine with my 24/38 9spd double with bash on a triple crank setup, shifts are smooth and fast, actually better than I remember with 9spd XT FDs of the older generations.With my setup the chain is almost on the bottom of the cage in the 16t cog in the 24t ring, but doesn't touch. I have run a 15t and had no issues either and expect you could go as small as maybe a 13t without rub, maybe even an 11t. So if you dropped 2 teeth to a 22 you might not be able to go as low, maybe to say 16t, but that's still plenty low when running in the granny ring, if you need more shift to the bigger ring.

    BTW Bash ring is an old 44t big ring with teeth snipped and filed off and I run an SS/Trials Pro2 hub with the first 6 cogs on an XTR 32-11 cassette, so 32, 28, 24, 21, 18, 16.

    BTW, curious how come such small rings, do you plan on doing like me and running a 32t max cog? Cause if you plan to run a newer cassette with a 36t cog I hope you can really spin, cause unless you regularly climb 25% grades that's what you'll be doing on 26" and even 650B wheels.


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    Planning on running a 11-34 cassette and just went with the 22/34 as that is what i had before. I do like to climb up the trails I ride down though vice the fireroads. I also really do not use the 22t, just there as a last resort.

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    If it's only fire road climbing that you'll be doing, then I highly suggest you consider going for a 24/36 combo, think you'll get much more use out of both of those rings compared to the 22/34. I think you'll get a very useable low gear of 18.4 gear inches, with 24-34(46 RPMs to do 2.5mph, which for me is about fall over speed while climbing unless stalled on a feature/obstacle) and a high of 85.1 gear inches with 36-11.

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    Planning on running a 11-34 cassette and just went with the 22/34 as that is what i had before. I do like to climb up the trails I ride down though vice the fireroads. I also really do not use the 22t, just there as a last resort.
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    Well said LyNx. I´m running 2 x 9 for some time now, with 11-34 Cassette rear and 22/36 Rings in front and it works great overall, with good usage of both Rings. I´m now thinking about switching to 2 x 10, with 11-36 cassette and 24/36 Rings in front a.) to avoid Pedalkickback in the granny and b.) only half of my climbings are Fireroads ...

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    Well - the gearing is a very individual thing, to be honest. I plan to use 35/21 front and 12-30 rear. I was running a 12-38 cassette for a while, and while to top gears were fine, bottom were just too much. And I miss the precise gear tuning from my road bike.

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    I would run 24/36 if I ran a full 9spd cassette, or had machined the back of this to allow me to run 7 cogs, but since my smallest cog is only a 16t, I need the 38t ring for speed on the road, flat trails and connectors. 38-16 gives me 68.9 gear inches and I need to spin 98 RPMs to do 20mph, 122 RPMs to do 25mph, so anything lower and I'd need to do my best hamster on meth impression when getting to and from trails - did run 36t at first when I built the Prime because I didn't have an FD, so it let me have an easier gear instead of having to stop or toe tap to drop to the granny manually.

    Quote Originally Posted by NoStyle View Post
    Well said LyNx. I´m running 2 x 9 for some time now, with 11-34 Cassette rear and 22/36 Rings in front and it works great overall, with good usage of both Rings. I´m now thinking about switching to 2 x 10, with 11-36 cassette and 24/36 Rings in front a.) to avoid Pedalkickback in the granny and b.) only half of my climbings are Fireroads ...
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    Just plugging in to this thread, is the frame 650b compatible or does it require different drop outs? If different, when will they be available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by highrustler View Post
    Just plugging in to this thread, is the frame 650b compatible or does it require different drop outs? If different, when will they be available?
    I'm counting they come with the frame?!
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    Some very nice close up shots of the welding and the frame here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptd View Post
    I'm counting they come with the frame?!
    You specify which dropouts you want when you order the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.PEDRO View Post
    Hello Keith,

    I have a Shimano FD-M675E2 on my Rune V2. There is no problem.
    Thanks, this is one of the derailleurs that we orders quite some time ago to check. Does it have clearance through full range of frame travel.

    The problem with the older shimano design (that is gradually being replaced by them) is not cage clearance, but the black section attacked to the cgae that has the adjuster screws on it... that part is too long on old SLX FD's so that t hits the vertical strut of the rear triangle is the frame moves through the travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uzurpator View Post
    You specify which dropouts you want when you order the frame.
    Yup, 650B and 26" dropouts are different. You choose what dropouts you want when you first order the frame, and other options will be avalibale seperately for additional charges if desired.
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    A question for you guys. I'm planning on getting my own Rune in the next year, so I wanted to ask, when you ordered the frame with what is it shipped? Do you get the flip-chips, do you get all of the dropouts or just the one you selected? What kind of rear axle does it use (maxle, syntace, shimano)?

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    You get one dropout option of your choice with the frame, which includes flip chips, and Banshee axle if applicable. You have to specify which dropouts you want when you order the frame.
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    Thanks.

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    I ordered both 26" and 650b dropouts. I think it was $25 extra for the spare.

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    The dropouts cost a fair bit more than $25 to buy after market normally, maybe your dealer offered you a special discount as you bought the extra set with the frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    The dropouts cost a fair bit more than $25 to buy after market normally, maybe your dealer offered you a special discount as you bought the extra set with the frame.
    As far as I saw, the derr. hanger is separate from the dropouts?
    Is it a standard derr. hanger or a custom banshee hanger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drakche View Post
    As far as I saw, the derr. hanger is separate from the dropouts?
    Is it a standard derr. hanger or a custom banshee hanger?
    Looks Banshee specific to fit the dropout. Stout looking little thing though.
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    the 135 dropout anger is a standrad hanger, the 142 and 150mm dropouts use the same robust banshee hangers used on scythe and legend, and should be readily avaliable from your local dealer if you do somehow manage to bend one.
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    My frame is out for delivery on the UPS truck. The UPS guy is going to be greeted with a **** eating grin. Drive faster dude!!

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    Its here!

    Showed up this morning. Cant wait to build it up over the weekend. Plenty stoked!

    Ill be posting up the build in a few days.

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    Just got mine built, so stoked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    Showed up this morning. Cant wait to build it up over the weekend. Plenty stoked!

    Ill be posting up the build in a few days.

    Large Rune V2 in Raw.
    That looks sweet... Are the stickers under the clear coat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    The dropouts cost a fair bit more than $25 to buy after market normally, maybe your dealer offered you a special discount as you bought the extra set with the frame.
    I think I was wrong about the price I paid. I was so happy about the total I didn't write down the individual prices. Subtracting the original quote from the final one, I get $65 for the dropout.

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    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by juanbeegas View Post
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    Yes

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    First impression of the frame (Sans Build):

    This thing is built far burlier than the V1. And it is a far better looking bike than the V1. Glad I went with the Raw as well. Its going to go good with the red blingage that is going on it. Looking at the short chain stays this thing screams manuals.

    Seriously cant wait to ride this thing.

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    what size of chainring are you running on banshee?

    im considering 32t on shimano saint cranks and wide cassette as possible like 36t-12t

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    Here it is!
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    Schweet and congrats! You willing to let a local dude hop on it for sizing as I assume this is a medium? A guy I know locally as well just got his large V2 yesterday and plans to build it this weekend that I hope to check before getting mine too.

    Looks good and be good to hear how it rides compares to the Spitfire.

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    Yep medium, shouldn't be a problem letting you check it out.

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    A little before and the start of after from my bike shop on my Rune's.

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    Including mine, I have now seen the CCDB air mounted three different ways on the Rune, Kieth if your around, does it matter at all how it is mounted?
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    Hi team - need some help please.

    Ordering an XL - am 6'4 and around 108kgs.. planning on going the 650b route.

    my dilemma is with what fork to choose. Fox only do a 34 in 650 specific – and a quick search around the web tells me I really want to go down the 36 path.

    So a further search quickly tells me that 36’s will fit a 650 wheel – but am unsure if it’ll take ‘bulky’ tyres (currently on 2.4 mountain queens).

    That’s a question for a different forum so my main question is the 36 Van 180 is an option (not sure if you can shim it) or would it make the front end horrible with an already slack head angle? would it be total overkill? (don't really feel like i'm made to fly.. still nursing a broken collarbone..)

    Bit of a shame as it sounds like the xfusion vengeance would be perfect but not an option.....

    Any help would be appreciated I just want to order the thing!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by williethewaiter View Post
    Hi team - need some help please.

    Ordering an XL - am 6'4 and around 108kgs.. planning on going the 650b route.

    my dilemma is with what fork to choose. Fox only do a 34 in 650 specific – and a quick search around the web tells me I really want to go down the 36 path.

    So a further search quickly tells me that 36’s will fit a 650 wheel – but am unsure if it’ll take ‘bulky’ tyres (currently on 2.4 mountain queens).

    That’s a question for a different forum so my main question is the 36 Van 180 is an option (not sure if you can shim it) or would it make the front end horrible with an already slack head angle? would it be total overkill? (don't really feel like i'm made to fly.. still nursing a broken collarbone..)

    Bit of a shame as it sounds like the xfusion vengeance would be perfect but not an option.....

    Any help would be appreciated I just want to order the thing!!
    Why is the Xfusion Vengeance not an option? according to Xfusion and their site they are 650b compatible.

    •Travel: 170mm
    •WT. LBS: (APR) 5.5(170mm)
    •WT. Grams: 2494 (170mm)
    •Spring: Coil
    •Steerer: 1 1/8, Tapered
    •Adjustments:Rebound, High & Low Speed Compression
    •Stanchion: 36mm, Gold Slick Ano, Aluminum
    •Casting: Magnesium
    •Wheel: 26", 27.5" (650B)
    •Axle: X-20 tool-less axle
    •Colors: Black, White
    •Axle to Crown: 565mm @ 170mm
    •Max Rotor Size: 203mm

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    the doctor told me i can ride 10 minutes a week so i had the perfect excuse to put my bike together
    i am almost there, i found some menor issues i will try to solve tomorrow ... i will need help tough
    since I am new on MTBR I can not post pics or links pinkbike.com/photo/8952756/ ... but here is my built info
    Frame Banshee Rune V2 medium raw
    Rear Shock Fox Float CTD (for now)
    Fork Fox Talas 36 180
    Headset Banshee Taper
    BB Parts SRAM GXP CERAMIC
    F. Tire Maxxis Minion DHF 26 x 2.35 Doble Wall
    R.Tire Maxxis High Roller 26 x 2.35 Doble Wall
    Rim Industry Nine All Mountain
    Front Hub Industry Nine Enduro Blue
    Rear Hub Industry Nine Enduro Blue
    Spokes Industry Nine Black and Blue Spokes
    Crankset Truvativ Noir Carbon 22/32/44 but the big one is removed
    Bashguard Chromag Blue
    Chain Guide MRP 2X
    Chain* SRAM 1090
    Freewheel SRAM PG-1090 11-36 (XX)
    Derailleur/F SRAM X0
    Derailleur/R SRAM X9
    Shift Lever/L SRAM XX 2spd
    Shift Lever/R SRAM X9 10spd
    Saddle Chromag Trail Master
    Pedals Dark Arachnid
    Handlebar Chromag Fubars OSX 780
    Stem Chromag Ranger 40mm
    Grips ODI OURI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    that is interesting, Banshee always does a upper shock mount "cage" so to say that partially wraps around the down tube. this is 6 points to dissapate the stress. curious as to why this approach, certainly for a bike like the Rune which will be punnished in the field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    Why is the Xfusion Vengeance not an option? according to Xfusion and their site they are 650b compatible.

    •Travel: 170mm
    •WT. LBS: (APR) 5.5(170mm)
    •WT. Grams: 2494 (170mm)
    •Spring: Coil
    •Steerer: 1 1/8, Tapered
    •Adjustments:Rebound, High & Low Speed Compression
    •Stanchion: 36mm, Gold Slick Ano, Aluminum
    •Casting: Magnesium
    •Wheel: 26", 27.5" (650B)
    •Axle: X-20 tool-less axle
    •Colors: Black, White
    •Axle to Crown: 565mm @ 170mm
    •Max Rotor Size: 203mm
    Yeh sorry didn't make that clear - fox is currently the only option in the rune build kits - am buying it complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by williethewaiter View Post
    Hi team - need some help please.

    Ordering an XL - am 6'4 and around 108kgs.. planning on going the 650b route.

    my dilemma is with what fork to choose. Fox only do a 34 in 650 specific – and a quick search around the web tells me I really want to go down the 36 path.

    So a further search quickly tells me that 36’s will fit a 650 wheel – but am unsure if it’ll take ‘bulky’ tyres (currently on 2.4 mountain queens).

    That’s a question for a different forum so my main question is the 36 Van 180 is an option (not sure if you can shim it) or would it make the front end horrible with an already slack head angle? would it be total overkill? (don't really feel like i'm made to fly.. still nursing a broken collarbone..)

    Bit of a shame as it sounds like the xfusion vengeance would be perfect but not an option.....

    Any help would be appreciated I just want to order the thing!!

    You can fit 650b wheels in a normal Fox 36!
    And the BOS Deville 160mm or 170mm are able to fit 650B

    I have the BOS Deville 170mm and it works just fine! Much better than any Fox or RS!!!
    Just waiting for my ordered Rune V2

    unfortunatly I should not posts images or links cause i didn´t post 10 times...
    Otherwise I could show you that the Fox 36 and the bos deville works with 650b and Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2,35

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    Quote Originally Posted by zupaphil View Post
    You can fit 650b wheels in a normal Fox 36!
    And the BOS Deville 160mm or 170mm are able to fit 650B

    I have the BOS Deville 170mm and it works just fine! Much better than any Fox or RS!!!
    Just waiting for my ordered Rune V2

    unfortunatly I should not posts images or links cause i didn´t post 10 times...
    Otherwise I could show you that the Fox 36 and the bos deville works with 650b and Schwalbe Hans Dampf 2,35
    Cool thanks for the info would prob look to run some hans on some flow ex.

    Guess I'm mainly interested in the thoughts on a 180 fork in the rune cause I'm leaning towards coil but also thinking 180 won't make the handling that flash..

    So that leaves air... Float or talas? Any owners of runes that use a talas? Reckon you need one on the rune?

    Plenty of people bag the talas and vie never tried one but I use the travel adjust on my e150 all the time. Either way anything gonna be good over that fork!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    Including mine, I have now seen the CCDB air mounted three differetn ways on the Rune, Kieth if your around, does it matter at all how it is mounted?


    This is how the reservoir should be mounted for clearance, best performance and ease of adjustibility. On smaller frame sizes the reservoir of the DBair may hit the downtube at bottom out if it is mounted below the shock at the rear triangle end.
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    Looks like an awesome bike guys. Definitely makes my short list of possible next frames.

    Combines my favourite features from the Intense SS2 (slack HA), Spec Enduro (Steep seattube & short chainstays) and SX Trail (rigid) and adds in adjustability!

    Is building one up around a coil CCDB/Bos Stoy and 180mm forks overkill?
    When will the Scythe v2 be available?

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    Got mine today. Had to order a headset so I wont be able to build it til next week. Did weigh it though... 7.6 lbs no shock or headset.. its a medium. My large v1.5 was 7.1
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    Quote Originally Posted by helidave View Post
    Got mine today. Had to order a headset so I wont be able to build it til next week. Did weigh it though... 7.6 lbs no shock or headset.. its a medium. My large v1.5 was 7.1
    I know how you feel, mine arrived last Friday but we had issues figuring out the FD and when we did figure it out we had to order one from across the Country and it will not be here until next week.

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    Once I do get it in though the build should be this.

    Frame Banshee Rune V2 Large raw
    Rear Shock CCDB Air
    Fork Marzocchi 55 RC3 Evo Ti
    Headset Red Cane Creak 110
    F. Tire Schwalble Hans Dampf Vertstar 26 x 2.35
    R.Tire Maxxis Minion DHF Super tacky 1.5 ply 26 x 2.35
    Rims Stans Flow
    Front Hope Evo 2 Black
    Rear Hope Evo 2 Black
    Crankset Gold RaceFace Atlas 22/32/Bashguard
    Chain C-guide
    Chain SRAM PC991 cross step
    Freewheel Red SRAM PG-1090 11-34
    Derailleur/F SRAM X9 3x10
    Derailleur/R SRAM X0 2x9
    Shift Lever/L SRAM x9 2spd
    Shift Lever/R SRAM X5 9spd
    Saddle Deep Red Chromag Trail Master LTD
    Pedals Red Straitline SC platforms
    Handlebar Black Easton Havoc Carbon
    Stem Straitline C Clamp 35mm (Still not sure what colour to grab, either red or maybe black since I have a lot of red)
    Grips ODI Rogue
    Brake/F Juicy 7 with red Straitline levers
    Brake/R Juicy 7 with red Straitline levers
    Rotor/F 203mm
    Rotor/R 180mm
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    QR Black Banshee one that came with the frame


    Will be interested in seeing what this weighs when it is built up. The frame weighs a little more and the Fork is about 3/4 pound more then the Manitou Nixon elite I had and the shock probably weighs only about 20 grams more then the old Manitou ISX 6 it replaced. My old Rune was running around 34-35 pounds. I was hoping to build this up around 33 but i doubt that will happen. i should find out next Thursdsay for sure.

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    Build List

    I hope in next 2 Week`s:
    Frame Banshee Rune V2 Large raw
    Rear Shock CCDB Air or FOX (2 Shock: one for CC; one for DH)
    Fork Marzocchi 55 RC3 Evo Ti (2010 Violett, 1,1/8)
    Headset ACROS AZ56 / AZ 44
    WTB Stryker + Bronson (V&R) or EX1750 + Onza Ibex FR or Deemaxx + HighRoller 2
    Shimano HONE 2x9 Speed 22/36(TA Specialites in silver)/Bashguard Truative
    Chain C-guide V2 or Stinger
    Chain Shimano XT
    Freewheel Shimano XT 11-34
    Derailleur/F SRAM X0 2x10 (Typ: 22-36)
    Derailleur/R Shimano Saint
    Shift Lever/L Shimano XTR 3x9
    Shift Lever/R Shimano XTR
    Saddle Fi'zi:k Tundra 2
    PedalsNC-17 SUD Pin III S-Pro
    Handlebar Raceface AM (Violett)
    Stem Syntace Megaforce 2 (30mm)
    Grips ERGON
    Brake/F Saint 810 (203mm)
    Brake/R Saint 810 (203mm)
    Seatpost KS 950 R
    QR: Tune Wüger

    The weight is to heavy for modern AllMountain Bike, 3,5kg (look at Liteville oder Speci Carbon; that is modern) with Shock, that`s OK! Now it is on trip to Germany and I build it for spring 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helidave View Post
    Got mine today. Had to order a headset so I wont be able to build it til next week. Did weigh it though... 7.6 lbs no shock or headset.. its a medium. My large v1.5 was 7.1
    Wow...7,6lbs (3,44kg) without shock are quit a lot....the official weight on the website is 6,5lbs (2,95kg)
    you know the weight of the shock dummy? Maybe thats the reason...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zupaphil View Post
    Wow...7,6lbs (3,44kg) without shock are quit a lot....the official weight on the website is 6,5lbs (2,95kg)
    you know the weight of the shock dummy? Maybe thats the reason...
    ist schon arg schwer.....hätte auch weniger erwartet...hoffe nur, dass es sich gut fährt und auch die Gr. "L" passt. Sonst muss ich in 2013 noch mal ein Bike aufbauen....vielleicht ein PIVOT Mach 5.7 Carbon!
    Aber vielleicht stimmt die Waage nicht.

    Ansonsten muss ich mir doch noch eine BOS Gabel holen, die wiegt ca. 400g weniger als die MZ55.

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    Oh ja! Meine 170er bos deville wiegt nur 2.030 gramm... und performancetechnisch ist sie auch ganz weit vorne. von daher macht man damit nix falsch. wenn man nun statt dem CCDB Air "nur" den Fox Float CTD nimmt hat man auch schonwieder über 300gramm gespart...

    But thats an english site so we have to write english now :-P

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    This is the spec I am hoping to build - In reality wont be done till the new year:

    Frame Banshee Rune V2 Medium (yellow hopefully)
    Rear Shock CCDB Air
    Fox Float 160
    Headset: Hope pick and mix!
    Bottom Bracket: Not decided yet
    F.tyre: Maxis Minion 26 x 2.5 - Super Tacky 42a UST
    R.tyre: Maxis Minion 26 x 2.5 - Super Tacky 42a UST
    Wheelset: Mavic Crossmax SX 2013
    Crankset: X0 - 2X10 26/39
    Chain: SRAM PC1091R
    Cassette: SRAM PG-1070 12-36
    Derailleur/F SRAM X0
    Derailleur/R SRAM X9 2X10
    Shift Lever/L SRAM X0 2spd
    Shift Lever/R SRAM X0 10spd
    Saddle: Not decided yet
    Pedals: Not decided yet
    Handlebar: Spank Spike 777 EVO (15mm rise)
    Stem: Straitline SSC – 50mm
    Grips: Lizard Skins Northshore
    Brake/F: Formula The One
    Brake/R : Formula The One
    Rotor/F 203mm
    Rotor/R 180 as I have it, but maybe 203mm
    Seatpost: Thompson

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    bikeman_2 und zupaphil:

    Es ist eben so das Banshee noch nie wirklich leichte Rahmen gebaut hat. Ich kann aber sagen dass sie sich erheblich leichtfüssiger fahren lassen als die Waage vermuten lässt. Wobei die Rahmengewichte wohl noch nicht final geklärt sind, dafür schwirren noch zu viele halbgare Zahlen durch das Netz. Ich hoffe Ihr werdet trotzdem glücklich mit Euren Böcken.
    Die BOS Deville habe ich auch auf dem Schirm. Für Erfahrungsberichte wäre ich sehr dankbar -> PM.

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    My V2 came in yesterday. One word that describes the new Rune, BURLY with a capital B. This is a hucker's AM bike. If you think the frame is too heavy, the Spitfire seems like the way to go without sacrificing that much performance.

    I love the industrial look of the frame in person, but I feel like the V2 is so much more bike than the V1- and I'm stuck pondering if the Spitfire may be a better fit for the type riding I typically do.

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    This thread is killing me! I was told I was third in line to have my frame shipped out...guess not. C'mon trident, take my money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by knumbskull View Post
    This thread is killing me! I was told I was third in line to have my frame shipped out...guess not. C'mon trident, take my money!
    I think most of these frames are in Europe.....So you may be 3rd in line in NA.

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    Another one in Spain!

    Size M, 3.35 kg (7.37 lbs) with 142x12 axle and shock bolts (w/o shock)

    Build have to wait, because I ordered a Tune Bubi Headset but it is ZS55, not ZS56 as the Rune so I have to buy another one.

    I'll update as soon as it is builded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peri View Post
    Another one in Spain!

    Size M, 3.35 kg (7.37 lbs) with 142x12 axle and shock bolts (w/o shock)

    Build have to wait, because I ordered a Tune Bubi Headset but it is ZS55, not ZS56 as the Rune so I have to buy another one.

    I'll update as soon as it is builded.
    That is interesting that you could get the 142-12, my bike shop called trident and were told they were not available yet and I would have to order them later. Hopefully at a discount since they were not available when I first ordered.

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    Banshee gave me the option to have the frame directly shipped to me for like $140. I opted to wait for it to get sorted at Trident. I'm guessing a few of these folks had the frames shipped straight to them- I'm guessing it wouldn't make sense to send it from Asia to N. America, and back across the world to Europe. I'm also in Northern California, which isn't that far from BC.

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    Keith, a question please.
    On the black anodized frame, are the decal protected in some way? Since on the raw are clear-coated and on the blue a powder-coated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    I think most of these frames are in Europe.....So you may be 3rd in line in NA.
    I'm in Oregon and I got mine a few days ago from Trident. But to be fair my name was already on the frame before it was even built and left Asia.

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    YEah I have been on the list forever. No big deal since I don't have all the parts yet anyways. But seeing all the pics of the frame popping up in north America isn't helping my anticipation! Yeah, yeah

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    I also received mine last Friday, just waiting on parts.

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    my bike is ready! pics when i get to 10 ...
    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by drakche View Post
    Keith, a question please.
    On the black anodized frame, are the decal protected in some way? Since on the raw are clear-coated and on the blue a powder-coated.
    The decals are baked on to the ano surface, they do not have anything over them.
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    Smile Short term review.

    Hey all,

    I've been riding the V2 for about a month now so I figured I'd post a review. A quick preamble about me first just so you know where I'm coming from.

    Me

    I'm 36, been riding mountain bikes in anger since I was 15, my favourite kind of riding has always been downhill but I'm loving all day rides on long technical, natural trails these days. I've owned everything from 10" travel, 40+lb downhill rigs to BMX bikes and even dabbled in fully rigid weight weenie xc bikes. I've had a love/hate thing going on with the Banshee Rune for the past few years, I love it because of how versatile it is ( I rode mine on everything from the Fort William WC track to local pump tracks and the Mountain of Hell ) and I hated it because of frame wear and those damn bushings.

    In the past year or so I've ridden a Solid Mission 9, 2Stage Elite 9, Giant Glory, Giant Reign, Cube Fritz, Trek Remedy, Orange Alpine 160 and all versions of the Rune( Just to give you an idea of what I'm used to riding although I'll be comparing the V2 to the previous versions of the Rune in this review ).

    First Impressions

    For some reason, I expected that the Rune V2 would be much like the V1.5 but with bearings, that seems pretty dumb in hindsight.

    My first impressions of the V2 was that it felt longer and pushed more of the rider's weight over the front wheel than the v1. It didn't feel like it had such a slack head angle and it had lost a bit of the slack downhill bike feel that I liked about the 1.5, I found that I was having a bit of trouble holding a manual over sections that I could nail on the 1.5.

    The upside was that it felt better through fast berms and loamy corners, the bike digs in and grips brilliantly. The biggest surprise came when I started going uphill, I expected that there would be an improvement over the previous versions of the Rune but the V2 is in another league altogether.

    I can clean technical rocky sections on the V2 where I'd run out of steam or get knocked off line on any other bike. Sitting down and grinding up smooth fire roads doesn't cause any noticeable pedal kickback or bobbing on a 26t granny ring and the power transfer from legs to wheels feels smooth and direct.

    Short term review

    Over the next few rides, I started to adjust to the new geometry, manualling and getting the front end up became just as easy and controllable as the 1.5. The same goes for jumping too, it's got a nice balanced and natural feel in the air but then so did the old versions.

    I took it down a trail that I always use to tweak and dial in suspension, it's got a mile long rock garden with plenty of square edge rocks and a few tricky sections where line choice is critical. Also, there are only a couple of places where you can get pedal strokes in, and it's only slightly downhill so you can't rely on gravity alone to get you through it, you have to keep off the brakes and pump whenever you can.

    This is where the penny dropped for me, the new Rune suddenly came alive. The harder you push, the better the bike feels and the faster it goes. The suspension becomes very active and the slack head angle becomes apparent, the way the rear wheel tracks over technical terrain is impressive, it reminds me of how good downhill bikes track over rough terrain when they're properly set up. It's not a numb or disconnected feeling either, there's plenty of feedback to let you know what's going on, preloading and pumping the suspension works exactly as it should and it never feels like your wallowing around in the travel.

    As a side note, I loaded up Strava and recorded a few runs down the trail. Turns out I'd beaten all my previous times and was now 9th fastest overall, 1st place is Steve Peat. That was in the wet on a new bike, buzzing!

    In my opinion, the V2 outperforms not only the previous versions of the Rune but any other all-mountain bike that I've ridden. I've really tried to be as critical as possible and find faults with this frame, I want to give a balanced review and I understand that being in the "honeymoon" period can bias my opinions but so far I can't find any issues with the V2.

    I've ridden it on as many different types of terrain as I can right now in order to see where it's going to let me down but I get more impressed with it every time I ride it, it's not put a foot wrong yet.

    If I had one main criticism it would be that the V2 is a pretty serious frame, by this I mean that if you take steady rides then it's not going to feel that much different to any other all mountain bike. Some riders might even say it was a bit boring. The V2 really shines when you ride it hard on technical terrain and that's what separates it from other 6" travel bikes that I've ridden, I haven't felt as though it was out of it's depth or that it was holding me back in any way. Sometimes, pedalling sat down on steep uphill sections with tight switchbacks can make the front end feel light but you can adjust for that. Also, the linkages hold on to mud and dirt but a mudguard will easily prevent that.

    Something that I've noticed, and I'd be interested to see whether any other owners think this or whether I'm talking out of my arse, is that the V2 almost feels like two different bikes. Put the seat down, thrash it downhill in the attack position and it feels planted and plush with really active suspension but pedal uphill, sat down with the seat up it feels light with a controlled pedal platform - that leads me onto something else, I don't even bother with the CTD lever anymore, I set it in "Trail" and I haven't needed to use C or D.

    If I was going to give any advice to anyone buying the frame it would be to get it with the CC DBAir, the Fox CTD is decent but there's no need for the whole CTD thing with this frame. Get a DBAir, spend time getting it set up properly and you'll be golden.

    Summary

    So far, I'm really happy with the V2 Rune, I think that it's the ideal enduro and mini DH frame for the UK. I'm excited to get it over to the Alps and I reckon that this is the perfect bike for The Mountain of Hell.

    Sometime last year I said this about the Rune V1 "Feels like I found the perfect girlfriend - beautiful, intelligent, loads of fun but when you get down to business, she turns out to be a man. "

    So far, with the V2, no dicks in sight!






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    Nice writeup

    Rune is more bike than I need but I'm gonna assume allot of what you say will relate to the Spitfire as well which I'm interested in. I really like the KS Link suspension when I demoed the Prime.
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    Danshee great review, all this great comments on the V2 are making it harder for me to wait two more month to ride. I noticed on the pics that you are using the flip chips up, did you try the other positions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALULO View Post
    Danshee great review, all this great comments on the V2 are making it harder for me to wait two more month to ride. I noticed on the pics that you are using the flip chips up, did you try the other positions?
    Cheers.

    Yeah, I've tried the flip chips in all positions and I'm still playing around with them at the moment, I'm enjoying messing around and seeing how they affect the handling on trails that I know well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danshee View Post
    Cheers.

    Yeah, I've tried the flip chips in all positions and I'm still playing around with them at the moment, I'm enjoying messing around and seeing how they affect the handling on trails that I know well.
    Hey Danshee might I ask what kind of sag you are running on the Fox? Im going to be doing an initial set up tonight and want a good baseline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    Hey Danshee might I ask what kind of sag you are running on the Fox? Im going to be doing an initial set up tonight and want a good baseline.
    Hey Darkslide, I don't actually know.

    I used the Fox iRD iPhone app to set up the shock and it feels pretty good so I haven't accurately measured the sag. Eyeballing, it looks to be about 30% but I'll take a proper measurement tomorrow morning before I ride and let you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danshee View Post
    Hey Darkslide, I don't actually know.

    I used the Fox iRD iPhone app to set up the shock and it feels pretty good so I haven't accurately measured the sag. Eyeballing, it looks to be about 30% but I'll take a proper measurement tomorrow morning before I ride and let you know.
    Do they make this for android??

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    All done!

    Spent this morning building her up. This is one mean and purposeful looking rig. Cant wait to ride it. Haven't weighed it yet but I'm guessing around 32 lbs.
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    Looks great man, I love how functional the new Rune looks.

    The Fox iRD app is available on android too, according to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danshee View Post
    Looks great man, I love how functional the new Rune looks.

    The Fox iRD app is available on android too, according to this.
    Thanks. Yeah, I'm really liking the look of this thing.

    A quick ride around my apartment complex and yeah it does feel longer and more forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    A quick ride around my apartment complex
    Eat your heart out Darkslide, ripped some Cold Creek/Thrillium today. Still have some tweeks and upgrades to make, but all in all this is a much better bike than I am a rider!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coiler-d View Post
    Eat your heart out Darkslide, ripped some Cold Creek/Thrillium today. Still have some tweeks and upgrades to make, but all in all this is a much better bike than I am a rider!
    How are the conditions at CC? I want to take this thing out tomorrow but I am torn between Sandy Ridge and Cold Creek. The weather is supposed to be crap tomorrow. BTW do you ride with any of the CCMTB guys?

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    Wow, that was quick Kevin. Looks RAD! How does it fit compared to your V1, feel much longer when cruising around on it or not much different? Doesn't looks that much bigger to me than a large V1.

    Oh, BTW ran into your CC bro, Michael C. at Syncline today. Trail conditions were good out east today!

    Enjoy and let me know when's a good time to check out for sizing sake if that is still cool?

    Jon

    Edit: Also, what setting are the chips in with them at the top, the slackest and lowest setting or steepest and tallest?
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    Great review Danshee! So do you feel much difference in handling and feel in the different chip settings? I am inclined to run mine in the lowest/slackest setting for the lowest BB, as I have been running my SB66 with fork dropped to 130mm for the lower bike feel and to extend the reach to weight the front end more due to slack STA of <71* with fork extended. With fork lowered and BB to 13.3", the bike feels pretty good hugging the trails, just wish I could run it like that in 160 fork setting.,

    Also, I haven't heard any comments of stiffness of the V2 compared to the other Runes. Any significant difference when slaying the turns on the V2, or about the same as V1 (when the pivots are solid of course)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coiler-d View Post
    Eat your heart out Darkslide, ripped some Cold Creek/Thrillium today. Still have some tweeks and upgrades to make, but all in all this is a much better bike than I am a rider!
    c-d, you available manana (Sunday) in the afternoon for a quick peek of your rig?

    I sent you a couple of PM's this past week to no reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgusta View Post
    Wow, that was quick Kevin. Looks RAD! How does it fit compared to your V1, feel much longer when cruising around on it or not much different? Doesn't looks that much bigger to me than a large V1.

    Oh, BTW ran into your CC bro, Michael C. at Syncline today. Trail conditions were good out east today!

    Enjoy and let me know when's a good time to check out for sizing sake if that is still cool?

    Jon

    Edit: Also, what setting are the chips in with them at the top, the slackest and lowest setting or steepest and tallest?
    It is definitely longer in the reach department. But not in a bad way. When standing the geo seems to put you into the attack position without any effort. To be honest I am going to bet you will want a medium.

    As for tomorrow I might be in your neck of the woods running errands if I don't end up out riding. Ill text you tomorrow.

    The chips are in the slackest position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    How are the conditions at CC? I want to take this thing out tomorrow but I am torn between Sandy Ridge and Cold Creek. The weather is supposed to be crap tomorrow. BTW do you ride with any of the CCMTB guys?
    Cold Creek was great and Thrillium was mostly great with a couple mucky spots. Yeah, CCMTB are my homies, I ran into you at one of the work parties last year but, I was working on a different project so we didn't chat much. I had a V1 Spitfire, in a similar color combo to your Rune and we crossed paths a couple times other places as well.

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    So are any of you guys who bought the Large and have it already exactly 6ft? Just wondering how it feels for someone 6ft. My large V1 felt great and so does my Large Devinci Wilson but all of this talk about a long reach is making me nervous, especially since I am going from a 680mm bar to a 750mm bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coiler-d View Post
    Cold Creek was great and Thrillium was mostly great with a couple mucky spots. Yeah, CCMTB are my homies, I ran into you at one of the work parties last year but, I was working on a different project so we didn't chat much. I had a V1 Spitfire, in a similar color combo to your Rune and we crossed paths a couple times other places as well.
    I remember you. I think I ran into you at Sandy as well. We need to hook up and go ride sometime. PM me if interested. I have been off the bike for a few months. I need to clear out the cob webs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    So are any of you guys who bought the Large and have it already exactly 6ft? Just wondering how it feels for someone 6ft. My large V1 felt great and so does my Large Devinci Wilson but all of this talk about a long reach is making me nervous, especially since I am going from a 680mm bar to a 750mm bar.
    Im 6' nothing with a 34 inseam. It feels fine to me with a 50mm stem and 780 bars. It does feel different though. Ill have to wait until I can ride it in anger to really comment further.

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    Threw her on the scale.

    31.4 lbs. Quite respectable considering I don't have a wimpy build. Single ply tires ran tubeless helps though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    Threw her on the scale.

    31.4 lbs. Quite respectable considering I don't have a wimpy build. Single ply tires ran tubeless helps though.
    Have you posted up your build already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishtar View Post
    Have you posted up your build already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkslide18 View Post
    Thank you.

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    I'm still undecided about the flip chips, I've always considered adjustable geometry to be a bit of a gimmick and I expected that I'd just leave them in the neutral position and never touch them but I've been having fun with trying the different settings because it's easy to change them.

    I'm not 100% sure that the handling differences between each setting are that noticeable. I mean, I do notice changes but I'm not sure how much of that is just placebo.

    I suppose a good test would be have someone change them over and cover them up with tape or something then have you ride the same trail over and over with different settings to see if you can tell which setting they are in but does anyone really care that much? The bike rides awesome in any setting.

    At the moment, I'm riding with them in the slackest position and I absolutely love how it handles downhill, I haven't had any problems climbing either.

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    Very nice build, the red and the raw fit perfect together....

    Looks like a single chainring in front, but you have a front derailleur installed.
    What sizes do you ride?

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    @Darkslide18 - My sag is 27%

    @jgusta - The V2 rear end is much stiffer than the V1, I'm running 142mm x 12 drop outs now though.

    Just got back from sessioning some easy going but fun trails with a few mates. Had a ball and felt really quick, fired up Strava and placed 4th fastest on a section with fast and tight berms - MTB Stig is Peaty and Mr Rat is Josh Bryceland

    This bike is rapid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danshee View Post
    @Darkslide18 - My sag is 27%

    @jgusta - The V2 rear end is much stiffer than the V1, I'm running 142mm x 12 drop outs now though.

    Just got back from sessioning some easy going but fun trails with a few mates. Had a ball and felt really quick, fired up Strava and placed 4th fastest on a section with fast and tight berms - MTB Stig is Peaty and Mr Rat is Josh Bryceland

    This bike is rapid!
    Heading out for its maiden voyage. I think a little PNW flow trail is in order.

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    danshee, impressive score! what size of chainring are you running?

    what is popular size on V1, 1.5? Im trying to decide the size for chainring for 1x10 setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomasis View Post
    danshee, impressive score! what size of chainring are you running?

    what is popular size on V1, 1.5? Im trying to decide the size for chainring for 1x10 setup.
    I'm currently running 26/36.

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    I ponder whether this bike could perform well enough to make my TR250 obsolete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    Yup, 650B and 26" dropouts are different. You choose what dropouts you want when you first order the frame, and other options will be avalibale seperately for additional charges if desired.
    What are the 'additional options'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by highrustler View Post
    What are the 'additional options'?
    From what I know, three 26" options: 135x10, 142x12 and 150x12.

    Keith means that you can get any one of them (pending availability I guess) included with the frame and you can buy additional ones for extra (collect them all, like happy meal toys)

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