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    You've got all the spacers and the springy thing from the CK BB on the drive side?

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    i put 4 spacer and what do you mean about the springy thing?

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    The two piece metal device that puts a side load on the bearings.

    "disc spring"

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    do you mean the like 1/2in tube that goes on the crank star tube and the one that look like a doble star washer loool ? sorry about my english

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    Yes, the flat double metal piece should be on the drive side against the BB.

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    omg i put it on the non drive side but on the manual gxp the pic look like the disc spring goes on the non drive side oooh **** on the chris king BB instrictions are in the drive side and in the crankset instructions are in the non side drive omfg

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    after all the problem was that my rear derraileur limit screw up/down
    was broken and i did not see it loool

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    Its my Rune..) Theme on local forum with many photos: Banshee Rune V2





    Now with Fox 36 float 2014^
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    Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread

    Awesome build, so sweet. Are the fox floats 160 ?

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    I am in a bit of a dilemma in trying to understand fork offset. Been reading a lot about fork offset but still got some unanswered questions I'm hoping someone can help me out on.
    Currently have a Fox 36 and looking to go to 650b.
    Getting a XFusion Metric 180mm. They offer the fork in a 26/650b with a 42mm offset and a 650b specific with 46mm offset. My frame is a XL so I am not worried about the 650b tire hitting my foot if I was to go with the 42mm offset fork. Correct me if I'm wrong but I am thinking that the 42mm offset fork with 180mm fork and 650b will give me a more similar feeling to a 160mm fork with a 46mm offset. It will allow the bike to be less "floppy" at slow speeds. Does anyone know what offset the grometry specs are for on the Banshee website? Probably looking into this too much but curious and figured others might be too.

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    Hi Guys,

    I've recently updated my 2013 Raw Fox CTD frame to a 2014 Black CCDBAirCS and I have a question for Keith or anyone who can answer it...

    Is it possible to install a new 2014 Rock Shox Reverb Stealth with Connectamajig or is the seat tube hole too narrow for it to get into? Maybe better the 2013 Reverb without Connectamajig?

    Have any of you been able to install a Connectamajig Reverb in your 2014 Rune?

    Thank you very much!

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    I think it goes the more offset the less floppy.
    20mm more travel with less offset would mean more floppy.
    Edit: just saw the 26/650 comparison, wiki has a formula that might give the answer...
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    I am in a bit of a dilemma in trying to understand fork offset. Been reading a lot about fork offset but still got some unanswered questions I'm hoping someone can help me out on.
    Currently have a Fox 36 and looking to go to 650b.
    Getting a XFusion Metric 180mm. They offer the fork in a 26/650b with a 42mm offset and a 650b specific with 46mm offset. My frame is a XL so I am not worried about the 650b tire hitting my foot if I was to go with the 42mm offset fork. Correct me if I'm wrong but I am thinking that the 42mm offset fork with 180mm fork and 650b will give me a more similar feeling to a 160mm fork with a 46mm offset. It will allow the bike to be less "floppy" at slow speeds. Does anyone know what offset the grometry specs are for on the Banshee website? Probably looking into this too much but curious and figured others might be too.

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    You'll have to thread the hose through before connecting the Connectamajig once the hose is out the top of the seat tube. This will give you the option of removing the seatpost a few times without need to bleed the system if required.
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    Re: Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by builttoride View Post
    You'll have to thread the hose through before connecting the Connectamajig once the hose is out the top of the seat tube. This will give you the option of removing the seatpost a few times without need to bleed the system if required.
    Thank you Keith, no problem!

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    I've read just about this entire thread and I think its Awesome that Keith quickly reply's and is very helpful.

    I Just bought a second hand, size Large Rune Frame w/26" dropouts. Im 5'-10.5" w/ 34" inseam, hope it fits good..

    Trying to sell my 13" Transition Covert 26 frame to pay for it, loved the covert but just wanted to try a different frame. First impressioin of holding the Rune frame is "beefy" Hopefully I can get the weight to 31/32lbs without a fortune.

    Looking to put the CC DBair CS shock on it.

    couple of opinions wanted.. Should I go 27.5 with it?? is it worth the cost to change? or save the money and stick with 26"

    I have a Rockshox Lyrik RC2l 160mm from the covert, that I like. Just replaced all seals/oil/rings on it.. however Id have to sell it at a big loss and buy a 27.5 capable fork.. But I could also get a lighter fork as well.. Xfusion sweep or a Pike.. but are those too light??

    I already sold the wheels from the covert so, I will be buying a new wheelset anyways.. Might as well make the switch??

    a lot of my riding with this bike will be local trails, one imparticular (beacon hill) where I ride up a 1.5 mile climb and then descend on what is basically a few small DH courses, lots of jumps/drops into another short climb to do the courses again. So all of the downs are earned basically.

    here is a great vid showing some great features of beacon hill
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    Nice lookin frame! You have a frame capable and since you have to buy wheels, go 27.5 & don't look back. I am sold... I have a super clean ZTR Flow set I briefly had on my Rune I can sell you. I built a carbon wheelset is why I am selling. PM me if interested!

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    Quote Originally Posted by socalMX View Post
    Nice lookin frame! You have a frame capable and since you have to buy wheels, go 27.5 & don't look back. I am sold... I have a super clean ZTR Flow set I briefly had on my Rune I can sell you. I built a carbon wheelset is why I am selling. PM me if interested!
    I saw that on pb, I follow you, creepy i know.. haha. Id buy them if I can get my Covert frame sold.. I am tapt out for bike money atm..

    Ya I wish I didnt have to re-fork up but I probably will try the 27.5..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk77 View Post
    ... couple of opinions wanted.. Should I go 27.5 with it?? is it worth the cost to change? or save the money and stick with 26" ...
    Quote Originally Posted by socalMX View Post
    ... You have a frame capable and since you have to buy wheels, go 27.5 & don't look back. ...
    Riding a Spitfire, and startet with 26 and switched to 650B/27.5 I would double socalMXs quote. Since then all the 26-Stuff is collecting Dust and remains unused.
    I think Money is a big Factor for most of us, but getting a 650B-Fork by Time means you can easily go with both Wheelsizes anyway. Depending on the Forks A-to-C the Geometry would not be off too much, maybe 10 mm taller = 0,5 Deg slacker HA, but you would be ready for what´s coming in the Future.

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    Fox Float X vs. CC DBair CS on the Rune?

    also, looking to save some weight and go 27.5 from the 26" RS lyrik that I have now..

    Fox 34 float good match? Is it noticeably less stiff/burly than a Lyrik?

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    Re: Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk77 View Post
    Fox Float X vs. CC DBair CS on the Rune?

    also, looking to save some weight and go 27.5 from the 26" RS lyrik that I have now..

    Fox 34 float good match? Is it noticeably less stiff/burly than a Lyrik?
    DBAir and PIKE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hssp View Post
    DBAir and PIKE!
    Ya, I hear ya.. My bank account just doesnt agree with both of them.. Im looking at a used fox 34. then in the least I can send it to PUSH and still be under a new fox/pike and probably have a better fork.

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    Fox 34with AVA, then

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    Rune V2 2014 Build Complete

    My new Rune V2 is complete!

    This beast has absolutely blown away my expectations. It pedals great with the relatively light build and CCDBA CS shock, and descends like a mini downhill bike! Previously had a Mojo HD for 3 years and there is no comparison...

    Running the 26 inch Dropouts in lowest setting with HRII 27.5 Tyres (just enough clearance) to keep the chainstays short.

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    Havoc Carbon Bars
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    Wolftooth spiderless narrow wide

    Thanks to Ben at Singletracks in Australia for providing great service and supplying the Frame.
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    SICK! Whats it weigh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dravs View Post
    Thanks to Ben at Singletracks in Australia for providing great service and supplying the Frame.
    Ben's quite good to deal with, bought my rune off him too.

    Bike looks great, nice and stealthy.

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    Had my Rune now for 9 months, overall very happy with it. Perhaps a should have gotten an XL frame (LEV is at max height), but after coming from a firebird it feels pretty roomy. The firebird in my experience has better suspension - it was nothing short of amazing, but the rune has more playful nature, I couldn't manual the firebird at all, I can and do manual the rune constantly, it's a lot of fun to ride.

    Rune V2 Large
    Lyrik 170mm RC2DH solo
    Hope + Flow Ex's
    Formula RO + Hope rotors - these things are an amazing brake.
    KS LEV
    XT drivetrain 1x10 + RF narrow wide 30t
    65mm Havoc Stem + Carbon havoc bars
    Hans Dampf / Nobby Nic tubeless combo

    Around 13.4kg - my scale are a little out I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uphill=sad View Post
    Had my Rune now for 9 months, overall very happy with it. Perhaps a should have gotten an XL frame (LEV is at max height), but after coming from a firebird it feels pretty roomy.
    How tall are you? What is your inseam?

    Do you think going to the XL would make it less playful?

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    Rune size Large Weight

    Quote Originally Posted by socalMX View Post
    SICK! Whats it weigh?

    Just weighed it with very accurate calibrated scales. 13.6kg (just scrapes in under 30lb!) as pictured including the 0.41kg XT pedals.

    Feels really well balanced and confidence inspiring, certainly doesn't feel heavy..

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    Dravs, That is one BaDa$$ machine!! Under 30lbs is impressive with how its set up. That gives me hope for mine.

    I just bought a used 2013 fox 34 160 float ctd (trail adjust) last night locally for 450 bucks. Ill send it in to fox for the 14' damper upgrade. Ive got spikes oozy evo 27.5" rims laced to Chris king hubs and Hans Dampf/racing ralph rubber coming. I plan on the CCdbair CS shock as well, how do you like yours? although if I find a Fox X float for a good used price id probably settle for that. Now I gotta save up for a crank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hssp View Post
    Fox 34with AVA, then
    That damper looks pretty rad.. However it is not inexpensive, it would cost 20 dollars less than I just paid for my used fox 34 fork.. although it would still be cheaper than a new 2014 model and WAY better..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dravs View Post
    Just weighed it with very accurate calibrated scales. 13.6kg (just scrapes in under 30lb!) as pictured including the 0.41kg XT pedals.

    Feels really well balanced and confidence inspiring, certainly doesn't feel heavy..

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    really nice!
    Did you get just the frame kit from Ben or also the pikes? Where did you buy it in oz?
    thanks

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    my rune is 29 pounds and i think i can lower to 27 pounds is a medium frame

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    Unfortunately to get a Rune down to 27lbs you would have to sacrifice so much running wimpy wheels/tires no dropper and spend a ton of money doing it. Will not make sense for what the bike is intended. 29lbs is about the low and just fine.

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    yea i was just saying i like the bike the way i have but my bike have a rockshox stealth reverb that is 500 something grams is twice than a normal carbon seatpost and 530 grams pedal my other bike the pedal are 275g but that is with my racing tires not with the my gravity tires that weight 2 pounds more loool

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    @Uphill=sad

    How do you find the RO's with the Hope rotors? Any issues with the calliper hitting the spider?

    I'm running RO's with the plain 180mm Formula rotors f+r and really love the power and feel of the brakes but I'd like to get some floating rotors, the Formula versions are prohibitively expensive. Are you using the Formula adapters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILVMTB View Post
    How tall are you? What is your inseam?

    Do you think going to the XL would make it less playful?
    My inseam is just on 38 inches barefoot, I'm quite tall in the legs. I think if I was on a XL I'd run a 50mm stem instead of a 65mm stem, I find the 65 better for both keeping the front down on climbs and fast flat corners. A XL would probably offer that by default. I would love to ride an XL just to see what I may and may not be missing out on. I like slow technical riding, the large does fit really naturally for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by RollingRevolution View Post
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    How do you find the RO's with the Hope rotors? Any issues with the calliper hitting the spider?

    I'm running RO's with the plain 180mm Formula rotors f+r and really love the power and feel of the brakes but I'd like to get some floating rotors, the Formula versions are prohibitively expensive. Are you using the Formula adapters?
    No problems at all with clearance, lots of people seem to have clearance problems with The Ones in years gone by. Using formula adapters, I'm not sure I notice a performance increase or much change in the feel of the breaks at all, I went to hope rotors after buying some for the Mrs Turner, they are really, really nice rotors. I also warped a two formula rotors - I think it's the 'minimal' bolt attachment area that caused this. They are a little heavier if your the type of person who would kill puppies to save a few grams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollingRevolution View Post
    How do you find the RO's with the Hope rotors? Any issues with the calliper hitting the spider?
    Just had a closer look and took a couple of pictures, certainly is close, but having a look for rub marks on the spider, it's not ever rubbed - it's also about the same clearance as on the Lyrik.

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    Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread

    Yeap that is close but if it's not touching it's not touching. Thanks for taking the trouble to take the photos. Much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cicot View Post
    really nice!
    Did you get just the frame kit from Ben or also the pikes? Where did you buy it in oz?
    thanks

    Yeah I just got the frame from Ben, he really went out of his way to sort me out. I got the Pike from bike24 in Germany.

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    The CCDBA is unreal, in combination with the KSlink it feels way better than anything I have ridden before. It just eats up the rocky drops to flat that I ride with no harsh bottom out. Cant compare to a Float X, never ridden one, but I'm sure that they are good too.

    Only thing I am not sold on is the 27.5, Ive only just converted it after 2mths of riding in 26. Ill give it a few more weeks to adjust but Id say its likely that Ill go back to the small hoops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dravs View Post
    Only thing I am not sold on is the 27.5, Ive only just converted it after 2mths of riding in 26. Ill give it a few more weeks to adjust but Id say its likely that Ill go back to the small hoops.
    What aren't you enjoying regarding the 27.5 or perhaps what were you expecting from 27.5? Unless you already have the wheels the cost to swap wheel sizes isn't a resounding endorsement to 27.5.

    Secondly wondering why more manufacturers aren't making bikes with interchangeable 26/27.5 dropouts, it gives us the consumer more options - manufacturing costs? geometry changes?

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    Only thing I am not sold on is the 27.5, Ive only just converted it after 2mths of riding in 26. Ill give it a few more weeks to adjust but Id say its likely that Ill go back to the small hoops.[/QUOTE]

    Same here, I just went back to 26, I tried 27.5 for 2 months, but I missed to much my 180 mm 36 talas ... I never tried the more dh setting on 27.5, and maybe that was a mistake ...
    My bike with 27.5 was lighter do to the fork and tires (I have lighter tires and wheelsets on 27.5) and it does pedal a lot more easy, but I was running ahead of my riding friends on the way up, and with 26 we are closer.

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    does anyone know what brand headset is stock on the rune v2's? The guy I bought the frame from included the headset but didnt send the crown race. I went to 3 local bike shops today looking for a 1.5 crown race and Zero luck..

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    Dravs, what do you like about the Rune over the Mojo? I've only been on a Mojo once, but loved it. Wish Utah had a Banshee dealer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uphill=sad View Post
    What aren't you enjoying regarding the 27.5 or perhaps what were you expecting from 27.5? Unless you already have the wheels the cost to swap wheel sizes isn't a resounding endorsement to 27.5.

    Secondly wondering why more manufacturers aren't making bikes with interchangeable 26/27.5 dropouts, it gives us the consumer more options - manufacturing costs? geometry changes?

    The Rune does seem to pedal a bit better in 275 mode with the same HR II tyres, and my Havoc 26 wheels weigh almost the same as the 275 Spline One. But it feels a little more like a 29'er than I was expecting. A lot of the reviews claimed that they couldn't tell the difference between 26 and 275, but it definitely has lost some of its willingness to get airborne and a little slower to react. It might just take a bit of getting used to how it feels, I have only had a couple rides.

    Because I have already got the wheels I will probably swap back and forth. Use the 27.5 for more trail type riding and the 26 for light Downhill/ Bikepark stuff. Ill do some Enduro timed runs and see how they compare. Feels like the 275 might be faster and more forgiving but not as fun...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dravs View Post
    The Rune does seem to pedal a bit better in 275 mode with the same HR II tyres, and my Havoc 26 wheels weigh almost the same as the 275 Spline One. But it feels a little more like a 29'er than I was expecting. A lot of the reviews claimed that they couldn't tell the difference between 26 and 275, but it definitely has lost some of its willingness to get airborne and a little slower to react. It might just take a bit of getting used to how it feels, I have only had a couple rides.

    Because I have already got the wheels I will probably swap back and forth. Use the 27.5 for more trail type riding and the 26 for light Downhill/ Bikepark stuff. Ill do some Enduro timed runs and see how they compare. Feels like the 275 might be faster and more forgiving but not as fun...
    Give it several rides & look to take advantage of the wheel size. Once you get used to it, slap the 26" wheels back on and that is when you will see. I did this and couldn't believe how slow the smaller wheel felt, not just pedaling flat either. 27.5 is where its at for a reason, if it were false claims it would have died off quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeboardorblade View Post
    Dravs, what do you like about the Rune over the Mojo? I've only been on a Mojo once, but loved it. Wish Utah had a Banshee dealer!

    I think that they are completely different bikes. The Rune doesn't have that sit up and propel you forward feeling when you jump on the pedals that the HD did, but the Rune still pedals well. I do use the CS on long fire road climbs that I wouldn't have bothered with on the Mojo.

    The Rune is far superior on the descents, with the extra reach to move your weight around and the 2 deg slacker head angle makes a massive difference. It is way more stable and less skittery than the shorter and taller HD and the suspension feels much deeper and ridiculously capable.

    What has surprised me most is that it has lost nothing up technical climbs and steps, I think that the slack HA doesn't climb thinking is nonsense. the only time I have noticed it is slow technical descents where you are picking your way down rock bridges, its more inclined to flop to the side rather than steer, but just requires better balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk77 View Post
    does anyone know what brand headset is stock on the rune v2's? The guy I bought the frame from included the headset but didnt send the crown race. I went to 3 local bike shops today looking for a 1.5 crown race and Zero luck..
    If it's a Banshee headset then this might help you...

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    Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread

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    Forks > Xfusion Metric - Internaly adjusted down to 160mm
    Shock > CCDB Air CS
    Headset > Hope
    Brakes > Saint M820
    Bars > Answer Pro Taper DH
    Grips > ODI SDG Hansolo - Green
    SeatPost > RockShox Reverb
    Cranks > Saint M820
    ChainRing > RaceFace Narrow Wide
    Pedals > Saint
    Shifter > Saint
    Rear Deralleur > Zee
    Wheelset > Hope Pro Evo 2 / Stans Flow
    Tyres > Schwalbe - Hans Dampf
    Weight > 15.4 kg
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    Banshee Rune V2 Build Thread

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